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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 7:16:06 AM | message detail
Screw a quip, I'm using this space to advertise my new project, Odds to Win! You guys should all participate!
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56677376

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~*Character Contest Histories*~
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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

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~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
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~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 11:10:54 AM | message detail
Quips forever
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2010 1:42:32 PM | message detail
Quip tag!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2010 4:12:38 PM | message detail
Bump
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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/8/2010 4:13:02 PM | message detail
Halo > SMS
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2010 4:13:17 PM | message detail

From: AppreciateTrees | #481
Then again, the Halo's shouldn't be that far behind Galaxy

Based on what?? Haha come on now..


Galaxy got curbstomped last year. And if it's even half as good as some of the fanboys in this topic claim, Sunshine will be Tanner level by comparison. Sunshine might beat Halo 3, but no way it beats Combat Evolved.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 4:13:18 PM | message detail
Damn, I was going to make my 500 post "Play Mother 1."

Even though it's a pain in the ass to play. But hell, I've played FF4: The After Years, so a ridiculous encounter rate and painful random battles isn't enough to deter me!
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2010 4:26:13 PM | message detail
SMS > NG!

Both Halo games are beating them though.
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voltch | Posted 10/8/2010 6:22:12 PM | message detail
WRONG!

SMS! killing Halo 3.
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WhiteLens | Posted 10/8/2010 7:18:19 PM | message detail
That's one thing I sort of don't get, is fanbase really that split on Halo?

I mean if Sunshine can beat Halo 3, what's stopping it from beating Halo 1?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 7:38:32 PM | message detail

From: WhiteLens | #010
That's one thing I sort of don't get, is fanbase really that split on Halo?

I mean if Sunshine can beat Halo 3, what's stopping it from beating Halo 1?


It's as different as night and day, my friend.

Night and day.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2010 7:43:44 PM | message detail
I don't really understand it myself, but for whatever reason people consider Halo: CE to be much better than 2 or 3. I personally preferred 3, but whatever.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/8/2010 8:02:40 PM | message detail
^This is true, its not uncommon at all to see Halo fans put CE on top and 3 on the bottom of their rankings. Nostalgia is a powerful tool, and then you add in which one is the Game of the Decade, and CE fits that title a bit more despite the success across the entire series.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/8/2010 8:08:12 PM | message detail
I'm taking Halo 3 > Halo: CE.

In my bracket, newer is the best.

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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/8/2010 8:10:16 PM | message detail
Mario only has a shot at Halo 3 cuz its a night match... Halo sucks at night cuz its mainly an American game in terms of fans, and Mario has the best morning vote in the business. Having a day match is a HUGE advantage to Halo, cuz its got a great ASV.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/8/2010 8:13:04 PM | message detail

From: Dilated Chemist | #014
In my bracket, newer is the best.


This is what I'm banking on with games of similar strength in the same series(see: MGS4/3, KH2/1, Brawl/Melee)
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2010 8:16:25 PM | message detail
Mario has the best morning vote

Sunshine is in its title.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/8/2010 8:29:28 PM | message detail
Is anyone taking the MW2 > KH1 & 2 upsets?

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2010 8:40:20 PM | message detail
I briefly thought about it, but I rationalized that I wouldn't take CoD4 over KH/KH2, and I would probably take CoD4 over MW2
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 8:42:31 PM | message detail

From: Dilated Chemist | #018
Is anyone taking the MW2 > KH1 & 2 upsets?


If you think MW2 could get 45%+ on FFX and RE4, then go for it!
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/8/2010 8:47:24 PM | message detail
I've made the first update to the BOP (14 brackets) http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls

Here's what the initial results say about some of the matches that we've talked about over the past few days.

Round 1

Sonic Adventure 2 – 8
Street Fighter IV - 6

Super Mario Sunshine - 8
Halo 3 – 6

Mega Man 9 – 10
Demon’s Souls - 4

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance – 8
WWF No Mercy - 6

Pokemon RSE - 9
Grand Theft Auto IV – 5

Borderlands – 9
Tales of Vesperia - 5

Persona 3 - 7
Civilization IV – 7

Dead Rising - 10
The World Ends With You – 4

Final Fantasy XII – 11
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII - 3

Skies of Arcadia – 10
Baldur’s Gate II - 4

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door – 10
Gears of War - 4

Round 2

Halo: Combat Evolved – 6
Super Mario Sunshine – 5
Halo 3 - 2
Ninja Gaiden - 1

God of War – 12
Tales of Symphonia - 2

GTA: San Andreas – 10
Golden Sun - 4

Persona 4 - 6
Dead Rising - 6
The World Ends With You – 2

Portal – 7
Final Fantasy XII – 5
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII - 2

World of Warcraft – 10
Paper Mario - 4

Round 3

Uncharted 2 - 6
Super Mario Sunshine - 3
Halo: Combat Evolved – 2
Street Fighter IV – 1
Halo 3 -1
Legend of Dragoon - 1

Kingdom Hearts – 7
Kingdom Hearts II - 5
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 2

Pokemon GSC – 11
LoZ: Majora’s Mask - 3

Round 4

Half-Life 2 – 7
Metroid Prime – 5
Devil May Cry 3 - 2

Super Smash Bros. Melee - 7
Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 7

Metal Gear Solid 4 – 10
Metal Gear Solid 3 – 3
World of Warcraft - 1

Pokemon GSC – 11
LoZ: Majora’s Mask - 2
LoZ: The Wind Waker – 1

Round 5

Fallout 3 – 9
Half-Life 2 – 2
Metroid Prime - 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum – 1

Pokemon GSC – 7
Metal Gear Solid 4 – 6
World of Warcraft - 1

Round 6

Final Fantasy X – 12
Pokemon GSC - 2

Round 7

Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 5
Final Fantasy X - 4
Super Smash Bros. Melee – 4
Pokemon GSC - 1

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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/8/2010 9:11:37 PM | message detail
Woot, I'm glad to see so far that Fallout 3 is the major favorite to make the final four. No game deserves it more.
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KommunistKoala | Posted 10/8/2010 9:38:36 PM | message detail
What's the consensus on KH or KH2/TP?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2010 10:55:30 PM | message detail
If Half-Life 2 makes it all the way to Fallout 3, I'd be shocked if it lost.

And Harrich, that first puzzle piece in elevator again is the dirtiest mind**** since The Ring. That was so evil.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2010 11:25:30 PM | message detail
I can't figure out the middle one to save my life :(
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2010 11:26:49 PM | message detail
With the cannons and key? That's not even the biggest mind**** in that room!
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/8/2010 11:49:42 PM | message detail
I'm probably the biggest Halo: CE fan here.. but I think Halo 3 has a chance against it. Merely because I think among the casual players, they will vote for Halo 3. They view it as the more recent and superior entry in the series. Yes, the hardcore Halo fans think CE is the best (because it is, I won't get into why unless you ask me, and no it's not nostalgia, at least not to most fans) but the simple fact is Halo 3 has sold 2-3 million more copies, and more people on GameFAQs have Xbox 360s than Xboxes (looking at the "got?" polls, it's a 60-40 advantage) and I KNOW there are many, many people on the site who bought Halo 3 and didn't buy any others. People come to the CE board all the time saying they bought Halo 3 and ask the board if Halo CE is worth purchasing from XBLA. In fact I think the downloadable copy on XBLA could save Halo CE if it's a really close match since it's sold decently to people who have never owned the original Xbox.

I'm still taking CE, but it's not a slam dunk by any means. I compare it EXACTLY to Brawl vs Melee. Either could win, but Brawl will have more casual support and the recency argument.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2010 11:55:57 PM | message detail
Be honest: is it the pistol? I don't know anybody who likes the original the most and doesn't flat-out main the pistol as their weapon of choice.
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Blairville | Posted 10/9/2010 12:01:51 AM | message detail
CE's the best and real men use the Plasma Pistol.

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/9/2010 12:05:03 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #028
Be honest: is it the pistol? I don't know anybody who likes the original the most and doesn't flat-out main the pistol as their weapon of choice.


The pistol is certainly ****ing awesome, but it's not just the pistol. The pistol does make the multiplayer more balanced and skillful though, and is definitely the weapon of choice.. anyone who doesn't at least keep it as a backup weapon is a fool since it's useful in all situations besides extreme long range. I'd only ever drop it if I had a sniper rifle AND the rocket launcher.

But in terms of the campaign, the plasma pistol and shotgun are preferable to it (on Legendary anyway), since they are almost necessary to kill Elites and the Flood, while the pistol is not.

I can go into more detail as to why I prefer the original if you care. But it'd be quite a long post.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/9/2010 12:05:32 AM | message detail

From: Blairville | #029
CE's the best and real men use the Plasma Pistol.


This guy knows what he's talking about.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/9/2010 12:24:26 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #026
With the cannons and key? That's not even the biggest mind**** in that room!


Just beat the game, and yeah it is. The ladder was kinda dumb. I figured it out, but it would have been better if you could stay green for longer and do it the way I was thinking to do it.

Do I actually have to beat the game in under 45 minutes to get that last trophy? That is INSANE. Also I'm not totally sure I understand the ending, but it was really sad.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/9/2010 12:24:50 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, need the link to that article I asked you about.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/9/2010 1:01:15 AM | message detail
I looked up what the ending means, and wow. That's some deep stuff.

First game I've wanted to write a guide for in years, too.
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KrahenProphet | Posted 10/9/2010 1:05:11 AM | message detail
Wow, I see there is quite a lot of faith in Pokemon GSC.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/9/2010 1:10:55 AM | message detail
I'm honestly very worried Majora's Mask will beat it even though every stat suggests otherwise. It's not even x-stats, either. GSC came close to it with RBY in the same poll. Remove RBY and GSC jumps way up. The question is whether or not Majora's Mask will be an OOT proxy and gets tons of support.

It's a very important match, because if GSC wins it has a fee ride to the semifinal with FFX.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/9/2010 1:11:04 AM | message detail
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/9/2010 1:18:28 AM | message detail
I have almost no doubt about GSC thanks to the RBY/MM/GSC poll. Yeah, MM could surprise due to the Zelda name, but I just don't see it. If you think that then you may as well pick TP to win it all. Very confident in GSC.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/9/2010 1:43:19 AM | message detail

From: DaruniaTheGoron | #038
I have almost no doubt about GSC thanks to the RBY/MM/GSC poll. Yeah, MM could surprise due to the Zelda name, but I just don't see it. If you think that then you may as well pick TP to win it all. Very confident in GSC.


Oh I am too, but the match reminds me of Zero/Luigi in... 2005, was it? Luigi had literally no reason to win that match, but smoked it anyway. Nintendo v Nintendo is just weird.

Anyway Harr, I started a new game so I could write a guide for it. One thing I haven't touched on is the music. My GOD is it good.
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voltch | Posted 10/9/2010 3:22:03 AM | message detail
G/S/C I feel will come up short against MGS3, R/B/Y vs MGS is the closest indicator we have but still, I dunno, you talk about momentum, but MGS3 will have won the same number of matches.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/9/2010 5:57:21 AM | message detail
RBY doesn't seem to have a lot of overlap with other Nintendo games, so it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out there was no LFF between RBY and GSC, despite them both being the same series.

Crazy theory, yeah, but I'm wary as hell about GSC. Though I'll probably end up picking it to make it out of its division anyway.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/9/2010 6:28:02 AM | message detail
Why wouldn't there be overlap? GSC did significantly worse on MGS and RBY should have beaten it PERIOD.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 10/9/2010 7:08:23 AM | message detail
I'm surprised Rock Band 2 is being favored so heavily over Deus Ex! Even everyone on the Rock Band 2 board knows DE is the better game. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/949926-rock-band-2/56647823

Well, except for rockbandguy22, but he's probably a lost cause!

Yeah, it didn't do so well last time (against amazing competition to be fair), and its main character got crushed by Mario ages ago, but it wasn't ever $2.50 on steam back then.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 10/9/2010 7:11:09 AM | message detail
I'm working my way down the BOP. I'm equally surprised at MM9 >> Demon's Souls. People must be scared of the titles! They are both fantastic games, but modern old school should crush old old school.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/9/2010 7:16:34 AM | message detail
People took MM9 because half the site has never even heard of Demon's Souls. I wouldn't be surprised if MM9 gets over 60%
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/9/2010 7:17:49 AM | message detail
I personally find it surprising that people who took MM or Wind Waker out of that division don't have it beating MGS4, but people who took GSC out do.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 10/9/2010 7:20:42 AM | message detail
Wow, I didn't even consider taking Disgaea over Valkyria. I must be out of the loop. When did Disgaea become popular?

I don't think Tony Hawk is getting the respect it deserves either. Maybe I'm letting nostalgia blind me there.

It seems that some people are taking KH1 > 2. Sora didn't even become respected on this site until the second game!

Yikes at GSC >> Majora's Mask. Just the thought makes me sad. :(
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LordOfDabu | Posted 10/9/2010 7:22:33 AM | message detail
I have Majora losing to FFX!

How have people not heard of Demon's Souls? I hear people talk about it all the time!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/9/2010 7:54:25 AM | message detail
Demon's Souls is obscure, but I'd figure anyone who keeps up semi-religiously with gaming would have heard of it, which would include a lot of GameFAQs' audience.

I really need to tweak my bracket soon.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2010 7:59:38 AM | message detail
Braid-post again, sorry team!


From: UltimaterializerX | #032
Just beat the game, and yeah it is. The ladder was kinda dumb. I figured it out, but it would have been better if you could stay green for longer and do it the way I was thinking to do it.

Do I actually have to beat the game in under 45 minutes to get that last trophy? That is INSANE. Also I'm not totally sure I understand the ending, but it was really sad.


I've beaten the game in just over thirty-two minutes before. It's all about completely learning how everything works in each world and each puzzle that comes along with it. Forty-five minutes is very scary, yes, and it took me awhile to beat it that fast...but it's not nearly the threat you think it may be. Like beating the game itself, I'd encourage you to beat the time on your own before looking up outside help.

If you're ready for a real threat, find the stars...where you may want outside help (at least for finding them; I encourage you to figure them out on your own). =)


From: UltimaterializerX | #033
Oh yeah, need the link to that article I asked you about.


http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16392

I linked it in your Top 100 topic! Blow's fun to read about just to see if you agree with him or not, but for the WoW-information you're probably looking for, you'll want to start at "Why Do They Want To Play?"


From: UltimaterializerX | #034
I looked up what the ending means, and wow. That's some deep stuff.

First game I've wanted to write a guide for in years, too.


For as interesting of things you can find in other people's theories about the game, don't ever let anybody tell you want it truly means. It's a game that refuses to be looked at directly and Blow's said he intentionally doesn't tell the whole story in Braid. If you like the theory-side of the game, try looking in a forum in search of quality-posts...or lemme know when you're on AIM sometime; I've saved a lot of good posts and quotes I've seen from Braid-discussions about its theories.

And believe me when I say, after all the reading I've done on it (interviews, making of's, forums, guides, etc.), I'm still not very confident on what it's about...and I think that's kinda beautiful by the way it was done.


From: UltimaterializerX | #039
Anyway Harr, I started a new game so I could write a guide for it. One thing I haven't touched on is the music. My GOD is it good.


It's funny, too, since all of the music was licensed; none of it was created for Braid.
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