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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:19:05 PM | message detail
Better question -- has Baldur's Gate 2 been re-released on Steam?

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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:19:46 PM | message detail
I'll take Disgaea without thinking in that one.. which I guess suggests that I should take SOA. I dunno, it's just a 1 point match anyway.
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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:19:50 PM | message detail
Doesn't look like it! If it was, I think that would have been the deciding factor.

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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:20:25 PM | message detail
it was just rereleased on GOG the other day I think.
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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:20:54 PM | message detail
I'm not as familiar with GOG. Is it pretty popular?

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/7/2010 5:20:56 PM | message detail
I only picked MGS4 > 3 because I prefer 4 more. Anyone who says they know how that match plays out is lying.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:21:02 PM | message detail
Nah, looks like the last time BG2 had anything was a BG compilation back in 2006.

Wait, this is a Dungeons & Dragons type game?
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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/7/2010 5:21:15 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 6:47:35 PM | message detail
What happened to all the poll updates from the last Character Battle anyway?


They got corrupted in a database crash or something. But he had backup copies of everything so nothing will be lost; it's just going to take a little while to restore all that data.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/7/2010 5:21:39 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #205
I'm not as familiar with GOG. Is it pretty popular?


If YOU'VE never heard of it?
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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:21:48 PM | message detail
GOG rereleases old games so that they can play on modern machines with no DRM. it's popular amongst the right crowd, but yeah, this isn't anything on the level of Steam.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:21:48 PM | message detail
Well, I still have all the hourly update charts anyway. I was just wondering what happened.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/7/2010 5:23:28 PM | message detail
That was BG1 on GOG, not 2. Two weeks ago.
ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:23:56 PM | message detail
Yeah, I didn't think so. I'll stick with SOA, though I won't be surprised if BG2 wins. If it was on Steam, this would have been an easy match.

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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:23:57 PM | message detail
oh, whoops. like I said, I don't know anything about Baldur's Gate!
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DomaDragoon | Posted 10/7/2010 5:24:11 PM | message detail
I'm not as familiar with GOG. Is it pretty popular?

Definitely not as popular as Steam, but not totally negligible. I wouldn't consider it a major factor, though.
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personx9 | Posted 10/7/2010 5:24:26 PM | message detail
How much does the box art and name value come into play in these contests? I'm stuck on the Mega Man/Demon Souls match, and I think those 2 factors are what will determine it. I know Demon Souls sold well, but I'm not sure how popular a ps3 exclusive would be here. Mega Man has that terrible box art though...
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:25:18 PM | message detail
It's a PS3 exclusive vs. a downloadable game.

The only thing that gives people pause is the fact that it's a Mega Man game.
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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:25:49 PM | message detail
I have zero respect for Demon's Souls. Would anyone here take Valkyria Chronicles over MM9?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:26:53 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3363

Looking at this, I'd think about it...!
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/7/2010 5:27:13 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 7:47:35 PM | message detail
What happened to all the poll updates from the last Character Battle anyway?


They still exist on the site. There is a weird problem with the site which causes none of the matches from last contest to show up on this page:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/55

The only way to view the updates is to know the exact URL to each match. For example, here is the final match of the last contest:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=3856&num=2

If you want to view other matches, you will have to change the "3856" to the poll number of any match you want to check out.
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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:27:32 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3724

here's Demon's Souls vs. a popular downloadable title (Shadow Complex). the question here is the name "Mega Man".
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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:28:53 PM | message detail
Eh, I don't trust GOTY polls when it comes to downloadable games. They're essentially like handhelds -- no amount of sales, or praise, will ever be enough to make them top real console games. That doesn't mean people won't vote for them 1v1 against a niche console game. Like Braid has been abysmal in every poll its been in, but it'll keep it close with Persona 4. It won't win, or ever put the heat on, but it'll be decent.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:29:51 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #222
Like Braid has been abysmal in every poll its been in, but it'll keep it close with Persona 4. It won't win, or ever put the heat on, but it'll be decent.


I'm not so sure about this!

But the fact that MM9 is like a handheld game, only worse, is what gives me pause.
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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:30:27 PM | message detail
if Braid does well, it will be because Persona 4 sucks. that game even loses to downloadable games.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3357

you can see here what having a franchise name attached to you does for you.
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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:31:55 PM | message detail
I'd be shocked if Persona did more than 55%. There is a large chunk of this site who haven't played the game, and even more who that game doesn't appeal to. I think people are a little too hooked on that SF4 match. If you ran SF4 vs. P4 1v1 I don't even have to debate who wins.

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Xuxon | Posted 10/7/2010 5:32:16 PM | message detail
is avoiding a tripling "decent"? i could see that maybe.
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 5:32:19 PM | message detail
"I have zero respect for Demon's Souls. Would anyone here take Valkyria Chronicles over MM9?"

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3718

Demon's Souls seems pretty reasonable there. Admittedly it's kinda hard to tell with Uncharted 2 sucking up so much of the vote, but it was still considered the 2nd best PS3 exclusive of last year. Doubt Valkyria Chronicles would've got half that, as much as I love it.
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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:32:39 PM | message detail
oh I agree. I'm not saying that Persona is strong. I'm saying that Braid is weak.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:32:51 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #225
I'd be shocked if Persona did more than 55%. There is a large chunk of this site who haven't played the game, and even more who that game doesn't appeal to.


Same goes for Braid. All it means is that the poll will have abysmal vote totals and lots of bracket voting.
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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:35:14 PM | message detail
The same does go for Braid, but it is a much more appealing choice to a lot of people. Again, I'm not saying it's going to win, but Braid won't get beat down. It's available to pretty much everyone, too -- XBLA / PSN / PC. I think Braid can hold 45%, definitely.

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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:37:20 PM | message detail
And the real point I'm making here is that downloadable games 1v1 against niche RPGs aren't a lost cause. I don't think multi-option polls with enormously popular console games do them justice. I don't think any of them will be particularly strong, but it's worth having the discussion for the Braids and MM9s.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:39:12 PM | message detail
But MM9 did badly against not-popular console games and handheld games, too!

Is the Mega Man name only worth 3.5%?
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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:39:26 PM | message detail
Braid is a much less appealing choice than Persona. one of a JRPG, one is a downloadable puzzle platformer. that is super easy to pick for me.
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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:40:36 PM | message detail
If you wanna think it is, sure! I'll trust the Mega Man name over a very niche PS3 exclusive in any case, though.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:41:44 PM | message detail
But it's not THAT niche! It sold 500,000+ in America.
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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:42:14 PM | message detail
yeah, that's more debatable. people actually cared about Mega Man 9, it was big news when it came out. I am the only person on this board who was talking about Braid before it came out. MM9 is much more popular than Braid. (Demon's Souls is probably more popular than Persona 4, too)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/7/2010 5:44:48 PM | message detail
Demon's Souls/MM9 isn't really debatable to me anymore. The more I look at it, the worse MM9 looks. Demon's Souls could score a doubling there and I wouldn't be surprised. Same with Braid.

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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:45:29 PM | message detail
Has it? I guess I missed that news. Not cut out for these things anymore!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/7/2010 5:47:13 PM | message detail
Demon's Souls has sold over 750k worldwide. 400k+ of that is from the US. It came out in Europe for the first time a month ago and sold 200k there (and those GotY poll took place before it did). It probably sold a lot more than MM9.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:48:21 PM | message detail
Plus, Mega Man 2 and 3 weren't exactly lights out in the Games Contest, and they'd rock MM9 hard.
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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:48:35 PM | message detail
Bleh. Stickin' with MM9 out of bias here!

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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:49:29 PM | message detail
MM9 is a mile better than Demon's Souls, but I'll probably stick with Demon's Souls. just don't trust Mega Man with this audience in 2010.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 5:49:36 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #241
Bleh. Stickin' with MM9 out of bias here!


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ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 5:50:15 PM | message detail
Gotta keep the fight for good games alive here. Curse you FAQs

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transients | Posted 10/7/2010 5:51:52 PM | message detail
there are better ways to fight this than sticking to your bracket predictions!

like actually beating Wily castle without pussing out
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/7/2010 5:52:50 PM | message detail
Mega Man/Nintendo fans aren't enough to beat uhh Demon Soul fans?
WhiteLens | Posted 10/7/2010 6:03:53 PM | message detail
Speaking of niche games, if P4 wins, what about against TWEWY/Dead Rising?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 6:04:20 PM | message detail
TWEWY wins two matches, bank on it!

No, seriously, bank.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/7/2010 6:05:00 PM | message detail
Last year I stood by TWEWY > Persona 4, so that's what I'm going to do.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 6:05:46 PM | message detail
Speaking of which, I kinda wish Bacon had given us Golden Sun vs. Fire Emblem.
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