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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 913
HaRRicH | Posted 10/7/2010 12:48:07 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #095 Pretty sure that came before the Orange Box hit. --- Epona EPONA EPONA EPONA EPONA EPONA EPONA Epona http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Intanos VI | Posted 10/7/2010 12:56:12 PM | message detail |
I've
got Crystal going far but after seeing G/S/C losing out to Xenogears in
the 2004 contest, i can't help but rethink it, i mean... surely it's
gotten weaker over time, and if the recent re-realeases put the
strength back up...you;ve got to remember this is just C, not G/S/C. --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 12:56:38 PM | message detail |
From: Intanos VI | #102 Should we tell him? Or not? --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/7/2010 12:59:36 PM | message detail |
I'm
a big proponent of Pokemon's resurgence in strength, but I still think
Majora's Mask wins that one. Aside from the fact that Zelda fans no
longer have OoT to rally behind, people are taking that match last year
assuming that MM wasn't also being hurt by R/B/Y. At any rate, the match isn't nearly as set in stone as some people are making it out to be, which is especially important since the winner is basically guaranteed to go to the semifinals. |
Intanos VI | Posted 10/7/2010 12:59:57 PM | message detail |
What?
It's my first time actually doing a bit of research for the contest.
Sorry if i can't be all up to date with everything, i usually just do
my ill-educated guesses and that's it. --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 1:00:00 PM | message detail |
If
anything that shooter poll makes me favour HL2 > MP even more. MP
needed a much better percentage than 57-58% pre-Orange Box with LFF for
me to have confidence in it beating HL2. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 1:00:57 PM | message detail |
"What?
It's my first time actually doing a bit of research for the contest.
Sorry if i can't be all up to date with everything, i usually just do
my ill-educated guesses and that's it." It's not Crystal, it's G/S/C, if you hover your mouse over it gives the full title but for the sake of space it's just listed as Crystal on the bracket. On the poll it will be Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
Intanos VI | Posted 10/7/2010 1:03:35 PM | message detail |
Ah, fair enough. --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 1:03:52 PM | message detail |
Out
of interest, who would people favour in an Assassins Creed 2 Vs
Oblivion match? I know there's a Wind Waker in the way, but I'm
considering taking the upset and have no clue which one I'd then have
losing to GSC in the division final... --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
Intanos VI | Posted 10/7/2010 1:04:52 PM | message detail |
But still, it lost to Xenogears! Now people have it beating 2 Zeldas? --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 1:05:14 PM | message detail |
Oblivion. If you think that highly of AC2, I hope you're taking Arkham Asylum to go far though! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/7/2010 1:06:06 PM | message detail |
I
guess I don't get how close you LoZ:MM-supporters think it should get
to MGS in a match. GS got 46.67%, and MGS is a game likely capable of
beating FFX. If you're taking LoZ:MM > GS when Crystal's added and
the well-received remake came out earlier this year and people have
been playing Black/White recently, I hope you have LoZ:TP as your champ. --- *obnoxiously encourages you to nominate Epona* http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Intanos VI | Posted 10/7/2010 1:09:28 PM | message detail |
I have "G/S/C" losing out to MGS3. --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 1:10:29 PM | message detail |
"Oblivion. If you think that highly of AC2, I hope you're taking Arkham Asylum to go far though!" I have no idea if I do or not, frankly! I still have it losing to WW at the moment. No idea if Brotherhood coming out near the end of the first round will give it a boost or if it'll lose worse than 60-40 to WW like Ezio did to Zelda. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 1:26:53 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722 AC2 barely loses to Batman, beats Dragon Age, loses handily to MW2. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3724 Kinda strange at the difference between Dragon Age and Borderlands in those two polls though! http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3727 So basically Batman should be on par with UC2 or something. Arkham Asylum could be the second strongest game in that first division! Maybe the first! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/7/2010 1:31:34 PM | message detail |
First would be a big push...but I'd take it over Uncharted 2. --- T H E S T A B L E http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 1:41:37 PM | message detail |
Guessing MW2 sucked up some Borderlands votes in the Multiplatform game one. Ah screw it, I'll go pedestrian and say WW > AC2. Now to figure out who wins in Oblivion Vs WW <_<. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 1:45:06 PM | message detail |
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Twilight_Princess_vs_Resident_Evil_4_vs_Metal_Gear_Solid_3_vs_Oblivion_2009 Is that match conclusive enough proof that "mainline Zelda game" > Oblivion? Or is TP significantly stronger than WW and/or Oblivion suffering from the other options (not that they exactly overlap...) and/or Twilight Princess having potentially dropped off since then? --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/7/2010 1:50:14 PM | message detail |
I see TP is a second-tier Zelda, with WW being a third-tier. WW/Oblivion is gonna be closer than many people think, I'd imagine. --- The 3DS will be $200 or I'm closing my account - Ngamer64 |
transients | Posted 10/7/2010 1:50:20 PM | message detail |
I've
always seen Batman and Uncharted as equals. Uncharted's maybe a little
bit more liked, Batman's more played due to being multiplatform. I'd
take Batman in a match, probably. --- xyzzy |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/7/2010 2:01:55 PM | message detail |
TP
should be significantly stronger than WW. It's the clear #3 Zelda game
at this point- there's an argument to be made for Zelda 1 but in all
probability, TP has #3 Zelda locked up. WWOblivion looked obvious at
first (for WW), but after hearing it brought up, it's quite interesting
of a match. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 2:14:22 PM | message detail |
Okay, time to look at this using "lol fourways" and a MASSIVE CAVEAT Twilight Princess got 46% on Brawl here: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_4_vs_Brawl_vs_Twilight_Princess_vs_Resident_Evil_4_2009 Wind Waker got 35% on Melee here: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Melee_vs_Diablo_II_vs_Wind_Waker_vs_Halo_2009 So assuming that there's no significant leeching going on in those matches, and (MASSIVE CAVEAT alert) assuming Brawl and Melee's strength are roughly equivalent, that gives us Wind Waker getting 43% on TP. Now, in the match I posted before, Oblivion got 39% on TP. So that gives WW a very marginal lead. But if Brawl is indirectly worth, say, 55% or so on Melee then Oblivion is worth about the same. Of course this'll probably end up being one of those "debate it for ages then MM gets 55% on Oblivion" matches, but oh well. Still interesting to look at! --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/7/2010 2:16:44 PM | message detail |
From: Intanos VI | Posted: 10/7/2010 4:04:52 PM | #110 This should sum it up: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Mario_vs_Charizard_2010 Mario is as strong as you'd expect (read: arguably the Number 3 on the site), but Charizard got that close, albeit with the aid of a bandwagon and a newly released game. Sure, GSC is no RBY, but it's still likely to be plenty powerful enough to defeat the underrated MM and the hated WW. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/7/2010 2:18:18 PM | message detail |
From: Eeeevil Overlord | Posted: 10/7/2010 5:14:22 PM | #122 You're forgetting TP's competition is way way better. I'd take any game in that first poll to fodderize the second poll. Not to Melee's extent (except for Brawl), but certainly enough for a very commanding lead. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 2:20:01 PM | message detail |
Well
yeah, but I wouldn't have thought that would have too big an effect on
one game over the other. It'd have a small one, but not enough to make
the numbers irrelevant (unless you just don't trust fourway comparisons
at all, which would probably be fair enough). --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 2:22:28 PM | message detail |
Oblivion can win. It's not like Wind Waker doesn't have a history of losing to western games or anything...! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/7/2010 2:23:05 PM | message detail |
From: Eeeevil Overlord | Posted: 10/7/2010 5:20:01 PM | #125 It does. In any poll, each contestant is bound to get a certain amount of votes, even after being hammered to hell and back with SFF or LFF, or sharing the poll with other popular options. It's their base, inherent, 'core' strength. Each of those games behaved extremely well, while the games in the second poll got crushed. Oblivion's good, but likely not THAT good. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
draarrowgant | Posted 10/7/2010 2:38:08 PM | message detail |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/7/2010 3:06:29 PM | message detail On GSC vs Majora's Mask: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3486 That is an INSANE performance by GSC. That game and Pokehype is no joke, and I would not be surprised if it upset FFX after "upsetting" the Zelda duo. & red sox 777 | Posted 10/7/2010 3:47:00 PM | message detail Did GSC really leech so much from RBY? Yes. Yes it did, that's why RBY did 7% worse against MGS in that match than it did the next round with OOT in the poll. Lets give all the votes for RBY to GSC- puts them around 45%. So out of the 44k votes for MGS, how many would pick WW over RBY? Over in that same match, how many of the 44k votes for MGS would vote for MM? By my calculation they would need around 6700 votes which is completely doable. This all assumes that all of RBY would go to GSC though- which I doubt would be 100%. Also, on a four way, if you like 3 games, and two of them are from the same series, it is logical that you would pick one of the two from the same series... point being people may have voted Pokemon since there were two on there more than if it was Pokemon v Zelda straight up. What did they put in the water over here?! -------------------------------- psn: aarrowgant |
Intanos VI | Posted 10/7/2010 2:41:29 PM | message detail |
I wish i knew what SSF meant... --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 2:42:43 PM | message detail |
Super Street Fighter. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Intanos VI | Posted 10/7/2010 2:44:05 PM | message detail |
That's what i thought, but then...why would people keep referring to games as getting "SSFd"? --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 2:45:37 PM | message detail |
That's SFF - Same Fanbase Factor. Check the first post in the topic out ;). --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
Intanos VI | Posted 10/7/2010 2:48:02 PM | message detail |
My bad, cheers. At least i ain't getting the elitist treatment like i would on most boards - nice one. --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/7/2010 2:49:23 PM | message detail |
No worries. Everyone has to start somewhere, after all. Unless you invented the term SFF, I guess <_<. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
transcience | Posted 10/7/2010 2:57:38 PM | message detail |
that
term is the worst. I'm glad we've moved away from it somewhat. come to
think of it, we have very few sff beatdowns this contest. ffx vs. ffix
is the only major one that comes to mind. there's overlap but not much
unfair overlap. speaking of awful acronyms, anyone seen or emailed creative yet? wouldn't want to miss any updates! --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 2:59:19 PM | message detail |
TP/Galaxy will probably be a major SFF beatdown. Maybe MGS2/MGS4, too. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
transcience | Posted 10/7/2010 3:00:39 PM | message detail |
ah yeah, that too. neither will be as bad as ff9/10 though. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/7/2010 3:14:44 PM | message detail |
speaking of awful acronyms, anyone seen or emailed creative yet? wouldn't want to miss any updates! I told Ngamer yesterday to contact creative and he already did that. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/7/2010 3:17:34 PM | message detail |
Funny,
I suspect both of Leonhart's examples will be worse for SFF than
FFX/FF9. FFTA avoided the doubling against FFX in 2004 and FF9 doubled
Chrono Cross before almost getting 38% on FF8. FFX > FF8,
definitely, but I don't think the overlap will be so bad since they've
got different systems and -- like you've said -- people here love their
PS1-RPGs. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Epona: C^ C< C>, C^ C< C> |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/7/2010 3:29:02 PM | message detail |
Lets
give all the votes for RBY to GSC- puts them around 45%. So out of the
44k votes for MGS, how many would pick WW over RBY? Over in that same
match, how many of the 44k votes for MGS would vote for MM? By my
calculation they would need around 6700 votes which is completely
doable. This all assumes that all of RBY would go to GSC though- which I doubt would be 100%. Also, on a four way, if you like 3 games, and two of them are from the same series, it is logical that you would pick one of the two from the same series... point being people may have voted Pokemon since there were two on there more than if it was Pokemon v Zelda straight up. What did they put in the water over here?! To keep things simple let's say MGS's votes get split evenly (there's no reason to think the split wouldn't be proportional) GSC would only need 55% of RBY's votes to win over MM. The number will be higher if you think WW is stronger than MM. --- BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56645390 BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls |
Ngamer64 | Posted 10/7/2010 4:00:52 PM | message detail |
Guru Contest NOW ONLINE. Sign ups found here! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56670441 --- You should search B8 for Dr Football, cool dude and 2010 Guru champion! thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/7/2010 4:08:27 PM | message detail |
How's The Show coming along? --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/7/2010 4:23:35 PM | message detail |
What's wrong with SFF? --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
Big Bob | Posted 10/7/2010 4:39:16 PM | message detail |
The
term "SFF" is too vague that it barely applies anymore. Same company?
Same game genre? Same platform? Same generation? It can apply to any or
none of those. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/Mach+Tornado.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 4:39:52 PM | message detail |
It's not SFF's fault that people keep stretching it way too thin! --- Support Morrigan Aensland (Darkstalkers) for Character Battle IX! http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9302/banner5morrigan2.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/7/2010 4:42:44 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #103 This is a competition. No clue why you guys give advice in the first place. --- "This is why I like board 8, you guys never stop responding to trolls." -foolmo |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 4:43:44 PM | message detail |
Makes it more satisfying when we win anyway! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/7/2010 4:44:07 PM | message detail |
Although it feels like most people don't listen to us anyway, so I'm not sure why they ask! --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
transients | Posted 10/7/2010 4:44:43 PM | message detail |
meh, I like discussing more than competing in this case. I'll be happy to discuss picks with anyone. --- xyzzy |
ZFS | Posted 10/7/2010 4:44:58 PM | message detail |
A friendly competition, sure. --- A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. |
