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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/8/2010 2:37:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, the Def Jam series pre-Icon (shudder) was pretty damn good if you overlooked the rap aspect.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2010 2:46:11 PM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #450
On the flip side, Wrestling and UFC games release games yearly, like in "2010" version for example, like a sports game. And they always have evolving rosters based on actual leagues, just like a sports game. Wrestling and sports fans are pretty much the same demographic too... you're not going to find many of either on a site like Gamefaqs.


The N64-games came in a time before they were actively making yearly installments acknowledged in their title, and I don't think people mind yearly updates so long as things continuously improve. Not improving hurt the likes of big series like Mega Man, Resident Evil, and Tomb Raider...but during the N64's era, they only got better, and WWF No Mercy was the peak before changing systems and not capturing that same magic anymore. That was also the era most wrestling fans cared about; even if their games are as good or better now, I imagine it would be hard to get people to know it anymore just because the nostalgia brought on from the roster would beat probably any other wrestling game's roster-nostalgia.

Yes, I would hate to make that argument for a sports-game.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/8/2010 2:50:02 PM | message detail
Yeah, annual wrestling titles under a common banner (SVR) is a very new development. Ten years ago, THQ/Acclaim would basically refine the ever-living heck out of their wrestling games. Attitude was a huge improvement over WarZone while the evolution of WCW/NWO Revenge -> WM2K -> No Mercy is textbook refinement.

God damn, now I'm nostalgic.
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voltch | Posted 10/8/2010 2:52:41 PM | message detail
I should actually play these games one day.
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draarrowgant | Posted 10/8/2010 3:28:23 PM | message detail
Wrestling as media is certainly not a sport. However, wrestling as a video game is. There is true competition of human beings engaged in physical activity... I think rules are defined too in the video game (or at least enforced by what a player may or may not do).

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2010 3:29:31 PM | message detail
I'm getting Luigi/Zero flashbacks for Majora's Mask/Pokemon. Every stat says Pokemon should win and I'm definitely picking it, but Majora's Mask smoking this division in the absence of Ocarina of Time (and yes, Zelda fans are this bad about acting like drones) followed by multiple "haha this match was easy" topics from red13n wouldn't surprise me.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 3:31:26 PM | message detail
Well, are we getting a Zelda boost to compensate for 2009's match results?
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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/8/2010 3:32:36 PM | message detail
I said it during the last games contest: but Majora's Mask is a really experimental Zelda title that I do not believe would benefit from the absence of OoT in a contest. It's entire appeal at the time was that it wasn't trying to surpass OoT by being bigger and better but by trying something different and unique.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 10/8/2010 3:34:53 PM | message detail
If you like a series so much that you are willing throw more support at a game just because a more popular game from that series isn't in the contest, you probably weren't voting against any of the games in that series to begin with. Even if this factor does exist, GSC will be getting a small boost from RBY not being in the contest as well.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/8/2010 3:38:25 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that people are trusting Halo over Mario?

Do people ever learn =/
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2010 3:39:05 PM | message detail
Dude people HATE Mario Sunshine. More than they hate Halo.
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ZFS | Posted 10/8/2010 3:40:55 PM | message detail
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ZFS | Posted 10/8/2010 3:41:14 PM | message detail
People will never learn when it comes to Halo, no. That's why they're those taking Sunshine to win.

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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/8/2010 3:41:45 PM | message detail
Dude people HATE Mario Sunshine. More than they hate Halo.

THIS.

Seriously, all of you find the most pro-Nintendo fanboyish forum you can find and just casually mentioned Sunshine. See what the reaction is, there's your answer.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 10/8/2010 3:43:47 PM | message detail
Sunshine got this.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/8/2010 3:44:45 PM | message detail
Halo Reach might give the Halo series a boost, the game actually knocked off MW2 as the current #1 game on XBL right now which is something.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/8/2010 3:45:05 PM | message detail
It's not like similar "weird" Gamecube first-party game The Wind Waker, where a lot of Nintendo fans see as underrated, some even say its their favorite in the series.

NOBODY thinks that with SMS. Few might see it as underrated, but most just point and laugh in its general direction.
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ZFS | Posted 10/8/2010 3:46:54 PM | message detail
And I've heard some people talking about the idea of voters, to some extent, taking the "Game of the Decade" a little more into consideration in some matches. If that happens, Sunshine certainly ain't getting any of those votes over Halo.

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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/8/2010 3:46:58 PM | message detail
You guys are basing all the 'Sunshine hate' on pretty much nothing. It's disliked in the same way Wind Waker is, a majority like it, Nintendo fans love it, but you're just listen to the minority who will always bash it and never gave it a chance in the first place.
Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 3:48:03 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #431
I dunno. Isn't that akin to thinking Ganondorf and Zelda would be stronger without Link...?


To be fair, these is precedent to that with the Villains Contest and Bowser/Ganondorf overperforming on Sephiroth. Then again, that's a pretty different situation anyway.

I can see fans of Zelda in general flocking to defend TP with the lack of OoT and LttP. I don't think it's likely at all, but it is possible.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 3:48:18 PM | message detail

From: AppreciateTrees | #469
It's disliked in the same way Wind Waker is, a majority like it, Nintendo fans love it, but you're just listen to the minority who will always bash it and never gave it a chance in the first place.


Nah, it's definitely not like Wind Waker.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/8/2010 3:48:18 PM | message detail
Yeah, Wind Waker got hate at the time but after the dust setlled many people agreed it was good and as mentioned some will rank it as their favorite.

Nobody likes Sunshine, nobody, the biggest compliment people made of Galaxy 1 was that it was the proper successor to Mario 64. Seriously, if there is a Nintendo first-party title that could get anti-votes it is SMS. Also, it's best not to look at 2002 numbers and stats for SMS because we all know the herd mentality of Nintendo fanboys when a "big title" gets released. It might have given Mario a boost in 2002 (yeah, there were a million reasons there) but it's laughable to think it has any strength after Galaxy 1 and 2.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2010 3:48:24 PM | message detail
People who haven't played the Halo-series often hate on it. People who have played the Halo-series often find it decent or better.

People who have played SMS often hate on it. People who haven't played SMS have often been warned against it.

Galaxy was very disappointing last contest; beating CoD4 would not have been guaranteed. SMS has absolutely every reason to do worse...significantly worse.


I mean, it feels pretty easy when you look at it like this, YET I STILL FEAR SUNSHINE ARGH
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ZFS | Posted 10/8/2010 3:50:45 PM | message detail
Nah, Wind Waker is something else entirely. There are many people who talk about that game highly, especially as the years have gone by and people have had time to let it sit. There's still a sizable group who think the game is bad -- which is why WW isn't a top tier game -- but there are plenty who love it, too. No one, maybe only a choice few, speak positively of Sunshine. That is a game that most people actually do not like. People are weird with Halo -- it burnt them when they overestimated it, now they're going to lowball, put as one of the weakest games in the contest, and then wonder what went wrong.

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voltch | Posted 10/8/2010 3:53:48 PM | message detail
that's what makes halo and mc the funnest thing to predict.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 3:54:41 PM | message detail
It's hard to bet for Halo considering how the games and Master Chief have performed in the past. Then again, the Halo's shouldn't be that far behind Galaxy, and I don't think anyone would take Sunshine to be anywhere close to Galaxy.

Still doesn't make me reassured about Halo winning with ease.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 3:55:52 PM | message detail
Also, the haters don't know what they're missing. Sunshine is no SM64 or Galaxy, but it's still a damn solid platformer in its own right.
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/8/2010 3:56:14 PM | message detail
yeah I like Super Mario Sunshine

screw the haters
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/8/2010 3:56:54 PM | message detail
People who have played SMS often hate on it.

... what?

No. Okay this is ridiculous, a huge majority of the SMS hate comes from those who didn't play it. The, "Dude you have to clean stuff up?! Thats like stupid and dumb" type. The people who looked past that premise liked it, the same people who looked past cel shading.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2010 3:58:17 PM | message detail
I played Sunshine and think it's just "a'ight". But other people seriously HATE that game.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/8/2010 3:58:21 PM | message detail
Then again, the Halo's shouldn't be that far behind Galaxy

Based on what?? Haha come on now..
AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/8/2010 4:00:11 PM | message detail
But other people seriously HATE that game.

And some people seriously love it. You'd be surprised how many Sunshine > 64 people there are.
Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 4:01:36 PM | message detail
Isn't Sunshine also one of the best-selling games on the Gamecune?

Yeah, sales mean **** and all, but it shows people were still interesting enough in the game to buy it. I'm really starting to think the hatred is more a vocal minority like, well, most hated things.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/8/2010 4:01:36 PM | message detail
I'm a Sunshine > 64 person. They are both vastly inferior to either Super Mario Galaxy games though.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 4:02:30 PM | message detail
*interested. Nobody is interesting in Super Mario Sunshine.

Except the totally-better-than-his-dad Bowser Jr.!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 4:03:22 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #485
*interested. Nobody is interesting in Super Mario Sunshine.

Except the totally-better-than-his-dad Bowser Jr.!


Get this junk outta here!
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/8/2010 4:04:51 PM | message detail
Bowser Jr. more like Bowser Pooter
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/8/2010 4:05:58 PM | message detail
I like Bowser Jr when he's not speaking English. In fact, I like him more than the Koopalings, but that's mostly because of how cute he is in the Galaxy games.

He doesn't **** on Bowser though, particularly RPG Bowser, one of the greatest characters in gaming.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 4:06:35 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #488
In fact, I like him more than the Koopalings, but that's mostly because of how cute he is in the Galaxy games.


See, this is why you're the evil one!
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/8/2010 4:07:35 PM | message detail
Koopalings and Bowser Jr. are all nobody characters any way
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/8/2010 4:07:53 PM | message detail
particularly RPG Bowser

RPG Bowser if so hilarious, especially in LotSS.
Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 4:08:47 PM | message detail
Bowser Jr. has been much more successful than Bowser these days.

Hell, look at New Super Mario Bros. Bowser freaking dies in the first ****ing world. No kidding. Bowser burns to death in World 1. Meanwhile, you fight Bowser Jr. like fifty ****ing times, and the guy keeps coming back for more. And then Bowser Jr. raises Bowser from the dead. Yes, Bowser Jr. knows necromancy. And undead Bowser is still pathetically weak.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 4:09:31 PM | message detail
Plus in Sunshine Bowser Jr.'s the one actually getting stuff done while Bowser spends the whole ****ing game chilling in a god damn hot tub.

Bowser's just god damn lazy now.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 4:09:33 PM | message detail
So Bowser Jr. is Robotnik, huh

That's not a good person to emulate
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2010 4:09:46 PM | message detail

From: AppreciateTrees | #469
You guys are basing all the 'Sunshine hate' on pretty much nothing. It's disliked in the same way Wind Waker is, a majority like it, Nintendo fans love it, but you're just listen to the minority who will always bash it and never gave it a chance in the first place.


SMS:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=931
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1025
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1087
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1128

LoZ:WW:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1646
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728 (unless you think SMS > SMG...and notice LoZ:TP is in the poll)

Also notice SMS hasn't made a contest until now...and is outseeded by every Mario-game in the bracket outside of the Mario Kart games.


Please, as somebody who is a fan of SMS and currently replaying it, let's not even try comparing the hate LoZ:WW got to the hate SMS got.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 4:10:37 PM | message detail
Yeah, take it from the masochists who are actually playing Sunshine now!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 4:11:14 PM | message detail
I'm seriously now considering going back to Sunshine though, which I had in my old bracket before I switched to Halo 1 making the division finals.

Damn this fourpack!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2010 4:11:47 PM | message detail
I thought you were having some fun with it, Leon?

Honestly the FLUDD mechanics were cool. The only things I dislike in that game were the blue coins and too many red coin levels. Also I guess the levels themselves felt too big.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/8/2010 4:11:48 PM | message detail
The entire lower half of that division is a mess. Uncharted, SA2, SFIV, Halo, Sunshine, what do you do?
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/8/2010 4:11:56 PM | message detail
Oh wait, I have Uncharted 2 over Halo.

Maybe I should change that.
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