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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 910

ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/3/2010 9:09:56 PM | message detail
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.235501-Square-Enix-Wants-Final-Fantasy-VII-Spin-Off-on-3DS?page=1

Cloud boost comes with Link boost, huh?

3DS works magic
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/3/2010 9:11:49 PM | message detail
Was Cloud even in Before Crisis?
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/3/2010 9:13:00 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour
Was Cloud even in Before Crisis?



Nope, that was a prequel that focused on the Turks. If anything, it might help Reno finally get into the contest, though.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/3/2010 9:13:53 PM | message detail
I know what Before Crisis was, and I know it had most of the FFVII cast make brief cameos. I just couldn't remember if Cloud was one of them. It'd be Grunt Cloud if anything.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2010 9:17:30 PM | message detail
"Plus, it'll be more Final Fantasy VII, and who doesn't want that?"

The author fails to understand what the FF7-fanbase really wants when they say that!
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Delicinq4 | Posted 10/3/2010 9:25:33 PM | message detail
No bracket?
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transience | Posted 10/3/2010 9:25:49 PM | message detail
oh hey, just saw the last two Tidbits. guess I was just out of the loop.

Tidbit of the day more like Tease of the day since it isn't actually saying anything
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2010 9:41:49 PM | message detail
Also, with today's poll...I'm surprised there's still so much doubt about whether or not 3D-gaming will become the default way to play games. It's about to become the default way in March for Nintendo's next huge handheld-system (without glasses!) and the PS3 recently got that firmware update to allow developers to make games in 3D now (with glasses.....). Throw in that 3D-movies have blown up in the past year and 3D-televisions are now coming out (whose quality will only continue to improve the next nine years), and there's no way it doesn't become the default way.

Maybe not the only way, but non-3D games at the end of the decade are probably going to be considered retro. The PS1 originally brought three dimensions home in 1995...the same year Chrono Trigger, Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong Country 2, Comix Zone, Earthworm Jim, and other titles came out. Nine years later in 2004, those were all essentially retro. At least handhelds tried to keep 2D-gaming alive from then until 2005; the 3DS will be leading the way to making it the norm...and without glasses! We know consoles are interested in 3D-technology too and aren't about to be outdone by handhelds tech-wise.


I dunno, don't get it. It's going to be the norm by 2020 -- FACT.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/3/2010 9:43:40 PM | message detail
I'm in denial.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2010 9:45:10 PM | message detail
Most people aren't even going to own a 3D TV by 2020
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transience | Posted 10/3/2010 9:46:08 PM | message detail
most people don't own an HDTV and that's become the standard in the industry right now. 3D will probably become the future once glasses-free 3DTVs become affordable -- something that will probably happen around 2020.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/3/2010 9:46:13 PM | message detail
Also, with today's poll...I'm surprised there's still so much doubt about whether or not 3D-gaming will become the default way to play games. It's about to become the default way in March for Nintendo's next huge handheld-system (without glasses!) and the PS3 recently got that firmware update to allow developers to make games in 3D now (with glasses.....). Throw in that 3D-movies have blown up in the past year and 3D-televisions are now coming out (whose quality will only continue to improve the next nine years), and there's no way it doesn't become the default way.

I personally voted for the first option after noticing that HD gaming is almost the default way of playing games today, at least on the latest systems. Back in the days when HD gaming was still very new, if you had asked me if HD gaming will ever become the default way of playing games, I would have laughed in your face and said "no way".

"whoops"

Now HD gaming is very close to being the default way of playing games. Very few games released on the Wii/PS3/Xbox 360 these days will work with the old SDTVs. After noticing how HD gaming has almost taken over as the default way of playing games, that convinced me to vote for the first option in today's poll.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/3/2010 9:46:26 PM | message detail
The poll is confusing. I wasn't sure if it meant true-3D or the 3D we've had since 1996.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2010 9:46:45 PM | message detail
Hey, as long as you know it...!

Oh, and also, 3D-cameras are coming -- heck, the 3DS will have one. Just another major 3D-movement going down. I suspect phones will go that direction eventually too.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2010 9:47:17 PM | message detail

From: transience | #411
most people don't own an HDTV


What

HDTV owners outnumber SDT owners like 2 to 1. At least among gamers
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/3/2010 9:47:21 PM | message detail
most people don't own an HDTV and that's become the standard in the industry right now.

Umm, you are wrong. This poll says so:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3982
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transience | Posted 10/3/2010 9:48:06 PM | message detail
you said "most people", not gamers.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2010 9:50:10 PM | message detail

From: transience | #417
you said "most people", not gamers.


http://infogroup.com/index.php/news/news/454-two-thirds-of-us-consumers-own-hdtvs-nearly-half-think-sony-hdtvs-highest-quality-according-to-infogroups-orc-division
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transience | Posted 10/3/2010 9:51:28 PM | message detail
I prefer this

http://researchrants.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/no-way-do-two-thirds-of-americans-have-hdtv-no-way/
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2010 9:53:09 PM | message detail
The kind of 3D we've have since 1996 is already the default way!


From: transience | #411
most people don't own an HDTV and that's become the standard in the industry right now. 3D will probably become the future once glasses-free 3DTVs become affordable -- something that will probably happen around 2020.


Don't want to act like GameFAQs is the standard population, but:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3982
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3677

I don't know how long HDTV's been relevant in our society (seven years, maybe?), but people buy new technology in faster and faster rates than ever before anyway so I don't know if you can make a negative comparison about gaming going 3D by 2020.
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pjbasis | Posted 10/3/2010 9:53:14 PM | message detail
Bracket withdrawal.

I can't take it!

Guess it's back to umineko...
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2010 9:53:15 PM | message detail
Uh, if you want to use the "Americans are too stupid to know what they have" argument then you won't be able to assume anything
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ZFS | Posted 10/3/2010 9:55:39 PM | message detail
I can absolutely believe that people think they're watching a program in HD when it's in standard definition. In fact, I would think that to be the norm for the masses. It's really amazing how many people cannot tell you the difference between the two.

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transience | Posted 10/3/2010 9:56:07 PM | message detail
all I'm saying is that HDTVs were pretty small-time in 2000 and they've been the standard in gaming for a good four years now despite the questionable research out there. technology moves pretty fast - by 2015 we'll probably have 3DTVs on the market that can be competitive and by 2020, who knows.

I'm definitely not taking a GameFAQs poll to mean a thing on this subject. this is a place where Firefox crushes IE.
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LOLContests | Posted 10/3/2010 9:57:58 PM | message detail
I'm with tranny here. Where are all these people shelling out all this money on HDTVs?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/3/2010 9:58:01 PM | message detail
I don't know how long HDTV's been relevant in our society (seven years, maybe?)

I had to do a bit of research a few weeks ago to figure out just when HDTVs became relevant in our society. From what I found out, it was around early 2006 when SDTVs became more difficult to find in stores as HDTVs were slowly starting to drown out those old TVs. By the end of 2008, SDTVs were practically non-existent on the market and everything you see in stores would be HDTVs.
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ZFS | Posted 10/3/2010 9:58:32 PM | message detail
And I don't really mean that as an insult to anyone's intelligence or anything, it just amazes me how many people can view a program in standard def, then get shown the same program in HD and not think there's a real difference.

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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/3/2010 9:59:38 PM | message detail
transience, you're small-time
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transience | Posted 10/3/2010 10:00:24 PM | message detail
damn, I got owned
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/3/2010 10:00:39 PM | message detail
3D will never become standard... It'll be a default option for games though. Its also pretty much been proven in studies that too much 3D at a time can give you head aches or strain your eyes, so its really not a very viable option as the ONLY way to play games.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2010 10:00:47 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #426
I don't know how long HDTV's been relevant in our society (seven years, maybe?)

I had to do a bit of research a few weeks ago to figure out just when HDTVs became relevant in our society. From what I found out, it was around early 2006 when SDTVs became more difficult to find in stores as HDTVs were slowly starting to drown out those old TVs. By the end of 2008, SDTVs were practically non-existent on the market and everything you see in stores would be HDTVs.


Makes sense, good info. In hindsight, I meant to question when HDTV was first introduced to the market though.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2010 10:01:08 PM | message detail

From: LOLContests | #425
I'm with tranny here. Where are all these people shelling out all this money on HDTVs?


My family's income is 25,000 a year and we have an HDTV. You don't gotta be rich
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/3/2010 10:02:32 PM | message detail
I play my 360 on my 150 dollar PC moniter in 720p. Its not really expensive to play high def these days.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/3/2010 10:03:39 PM | message detail
I'm with tranny here. Where are all these people shelling out all this money on HDTVs?

Recently, prices on HDTVs have been dropping quite a bit. They are more affordable today than they would have been 5 years ago.
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transience | Posted 10/3/2010 10:05:00 PM | message detail
cost isn't so much the issue, I just don't think people run out and buy TVs all that often. I had a SDTV until 2009 just because I never bothered to get anything newer. I'd believe they're at 50%, but not higher than that. give it five years and it'll easily be the standard.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/3/2010 10:06:14 PM | message detail
I've still got a SDTV, but all I watch on TV is sports really... I can watch all kinds of tv shows and stuff in high def on my PC, and play games there, so I have no real reason to dish out for a HDTV only for sports.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/3/2010 10:07:25 PM | message detail
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 10/4/2010 1:01:08 AM | #432
My family's income is 25,000 a year and we have an HDTV. You don't gotta be rich


In American dollars?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2010 10:08:21 PM | message detail
I've still got an SDTV, but that'll change within the year and I'll probably help my parents get one too.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/3/2010 10:08:29 PM | message detail
I still have an SDTV and I haven't made the switch over to HDTV yet. However, I don't have a PS3 or Xbox 360, so it doesn't really matter to me. I do have a Wii, but none of the games I have for it look like crap on an SDTV.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2010 10:09:30 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #437
In American dollars?


Of course, good ole american dollars
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2010 10:25:04 PM | message detail
For what it's worth, they never advertised movies in theaters as HD-experiences. With Avatar's success as a 3D-experience and multiple others becoming #1-hits in the past year, the demand for 3D-players and televisions should come quicker. If they can make the technology soon enough and cheap enough, then -- coupled with people picking up new technology faster and faster -- I don't see why this transition can't happen faster than HDTV's.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/3/2010 10:37:11 PM | message detail
I think i'm in the minority of not caring about 3D. I watched Avatar in the regular theater since I didn't care about 3D, and if I get a 3DS, I'd turn off the 3D thing. 3D gives me headaches and strains my eyes, so I don't really want to have to look at it for extended periods of time. I can't be the only person like this.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2010 10:43:21 PM | message detail
What else have you really seen in 3D? You skipped the main reason to even watch Avatar and seem to be against the title-mentioned selling point of the 3DS.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/3/2010 10:47:23 PM | message detail
Who would win a "Best HD character ever" contest?

...Oh hell, it would be Lightning, wouldn't it?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2010 10:47:26 PM | message detail
I always thought of the 3DS's 3D feature as just another tack on they throw on because it wouldn't look good for their reputation in innovation to just release a more powerful version of the DS as their next handheld.

I had no idea people were actually looking at this 3D stuff as a viable future
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/3/2010 10:47:40 PM | message detail
Well I remember as a kid I used to have head aches from watching old 3d stuff with those glasses so I've been kind of resistant to ever try it since. Maybe they've made it better so it doesnt give head aches anymore, but I'm kinda hesitant to try it.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/3/2010 10:48:35 PM | message detail
I always thought of the 3DS's 3D feature as just another tack on they throw on because it wouldn't look good for their reputation in innovation to just release a more powerful version of the DS as their next handheld.

Yeah, this is how I view the 3DS. Its kinda like how duel screens was just an excuse for innovation, but most of the better games on DS didn't really use it.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/3/2010 11:54:52 PM | message detail
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/GotDVote-In.xls

Sorry for the delay on getting this up. The excel file contains the vote updates for the four Vote-In polls. The times listed are the times the update was recorded but for the most part the updates are all 5 minutes apart. Also all times listed are Pacific Time (GameFAQs matches polls start at 9pm Pacific). I made a mistake with the script that records updates so roughly 5 hours of updates from Day 1 are missing but the data is all there for Day 2-4.

I just put everything together from the raw data files so I haven't had a chance to look at the trends in the updates yet.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/4/2010 12:18:52 AM | message detail
I'm already working on trend charts. They will be posted soon.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/4/2010 1:08:15 AM | message detail
Trend charts for the Vote-In polls:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tjdGAvA-7mnccETosPJzRxw

I made a mistake with the script that records updates so roughly 5 hours of updates from Day 1 are missing but the data is all there for Day 2-4.

I have all 5 hours of updates that you missed from Day 1. In fact, I never missed a single 5 minute update from any of the Vote-In polls. I wouldn't have been able to do a complete trend chart for Day 1 using your updates alone, so I was using my own updates for the trend charts. I had no idea that you were even tracking poll updates for the Vote-In polls, although you had no idea that I was also tracking poll updates. So it's even.
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