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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2010 7:23:47 PM | message detail
It's not just Starcraft though, it's nearly his entire half of its division:

Starcraft - blown away by FF8 twice despite Xenogears and FF9 sharing their polls.
Halo - just a little under Diablo 2 while Halo 2's just a little under WoW.
Soul Calibur - originally snubbed before bombing to Starcraft; didn't even beat Xenogears-with-FF8 by very much.
Kingdom Hearts - the exception to my point; the series has grown here so much since 2004.
Metroid Prime - lost to GTA:VC with Paper Mario in the poll.
Half-Life - closer to Chrono Cross than FF9 in a poll they shared.
Skies of Arcadia - did not return for BGE2.
LoZ:WW - 74.71% on SoA, 55.22% on MP, 49.9% on rallied Starcraft.

EVERYTHING in that half-bracket outside of Kingdom Hearts looked bad, which had reason to improve from 2004 and KH2 confirmed it wasn't an accident. LoZ:WW's not the new LoZ-game on the block or a recent GotY-winner anymore, either, so where's its excuse to avoid what six of its seven other games have suffered?

LoZ:TP is definitely stronger, agreed...SSBB still didn't even LFF it in comparison to RE4 unless you think LoZ:TP/RE4's relationship was more accurate during RE4/MGS3 than RE4/KH2. Also agreed that we don't know how strong SSB is and that it's hard to take much from a VC-poll, but LoZ:MM still has that victory to its name and most of us would bet on SSB having fair strength; would you take it over Halo or Starcraft? Agreed AGAIN that the LoZ-series is much more than LoZ:WW and LoZ:MM, but games from weaker series beating and SFF'ing games from bigger series isn't exactly the most common thing...

...and yes, I get the irony of RBY > LoZ:MM and SSBM > LoZ:WW in blow-outs being the crutches of our argument. Still hard to prove your side was SFF'd any more than my side was LFF'd. I just can't trust LoZ:WW after the 2004-to-2009 comparison for almost every other game in its half-bracket.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/30/2010 7:53:17 PM | message detail
I trust SSBM to SFF WW pretty hard- I was surprised it didn't get blown out worse. The Gamecube has a small fanbase perfect for big SFF, and SSBM absolutely dwarfs everything else on that console. That said, RBY > SSBM, and N64 LFF should exist too. I don't think we can really get much meaningful stuff out of those polls.

Intuitively, I think MM is more liked by the Zelda fanbase than WW is. WW is the game that doesn't fit in- the cell-shaded, controversial game that got high critical acclaim but never really got past the cell-shading controversy for most of the fanbase. Plus, there are people who actually love MM- many who call it their favorite Zelda, for example, while I've known very few people who call WW their favorite Zelda.

I don't think the FFIX comparison is bad for MM, and it doesn't really apply anyway (don't think there's any FF that WW maps to well). FFIX should be the 5th strongest FF game after all, and being the #5 Zelda game (after OOT, LTTP, TP, and Zelda 1) should be enough for MM to beat WW. Or at least, MM and WW should be close.

There really isn't much poll evidence on this one, so I'll just trust my instincts, which are generally correct with fanbases I know well, and go with MM.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.
transients | Posted 9/30/2010 7:55:51 PM | message detail
by the way, I got to bracketmaking again:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56579783

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2010 8:02:17 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #052
I've known very few people who call WW their favorite Zelda.


Hello...don't know if it STILL is (replaying LoZ felt so good last year), but LoZ:WW was my favorite for years and still may be.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2010 8:03:36 PM | message detail
The 128 division is really overrated thanks to StarCraft. This should come as no surprise to anyone.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/30/2010 8:04:24 PM | message detail
Also, to pull an Ulti Mario/Samus style argument that could potentially make me look bad, Ganondorf would beat Zelda. The OOT fanbase will make sure of it. It'll be like 60-40.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/30/2010 8:05:26 PM | message detail
I have no idea why anybody would take Super Mario Galaxy over Majora's Mask. Wind Waker...maybe, and hopefully. But for now I don't really care if Majora's Mask beats Super Mario Galaxy. I don't even care if it beats Ocarina of Time or Super Mario 64.
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2010 8:05:28 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #052
Plus, there are people who actually love MM- many who call it their favorite Zelda, for example


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1225

Yes, 4.32% of them!

I know that's a bad poll because that's like right after Wind Waker, but whatever!
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/30/2010 8:08:53 PM | message detail
Yeah, that poll was right after Wind Waker came out. I remember- I was among the OOT fanboys who simply could not accept the idea of WW not being at least the 2nd greatest game ever.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2010 8:08:54 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #051
but games from weaker series beating and SFF'ing games from bigger series isn't exactly the most common thing...


Yes, but it happens, and it's happened to Zelda.

I don't really know if the strength difference between Majora's Mask and Wind Waker will even be all that great. I just think it's not as well loved as we think it is because Board 8 sings its praises so much, a la FFIX.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/30/2010 8:25:44 PM | message detail
Whatever I take back what I said about Majora's Mask being better than Super Mario 64 or Ocarina of Time.
HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2010 8:59:33 PM | message detail
Wii Sports maims Umineko and CoD2 tonight, bank on it!
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transients | Posted 9/30/2010 9:00:25 PM | message detail
nice call, H.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/30/2010 9:00:28 PM | message detail
OH MY GODDDDDD
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Dr_Football | Posted 9/30/2010 9:00:35 PM | message detail
OH MY
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NoDicePwn | Posted 9/30/2010 9:00:37 PM | message detail
The Sims representin'
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/30/2010 9:00:38 PM | message detail
Vote Wii Sports guys, it has to make the contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2010 9:00:45 PM | message detail
Only 4, huh?

Could this mean a Saturday bracket? Or will we still wait until Monday?
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/30/2010 9:01:28 PM | message detail
aww yeah umineko
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Haguile | Posted 9/30/2010 9:01:34 PM | message detail
Umineko is in it. Awesome.
LOLContests | Posted 9/30/2010 9:01:35 PM | message detail
Why weren't some of these games in the other polls?!

Hold on, The Sims!!!
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NoDicePwn | Posted 9/30/2010 9:01:41 PM | message detail
Can Umineko really not even beat the Sims with the board vote? What a joke
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/30/2010 9:01:42 PM | message detail
XD, Wii Sports is doing decent enough to get into a contest. At least we get to see Wii Sports in a contest.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/30/2010 9:01:46 PM | message detail
lol Umineko, can't even be respectful during the board vote.

This can only get worse for the game.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2010 9:01:48 PM | message detail
aw yeah

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/30/2010 9:01:54 PM | message detail
LMAO Wii Sports in second.

Sad thing is that I voted for it. Probably should've voted Castlevania or GH2 instead.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2010 9:01:56 PM | message detail
Argh, Viewtiful Joe doing badly, bad poll

SoulCalibur II getting the LINK factor. That thing will be a beast with Gamecube boxart!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2010 9:02:12 PM | message detail
Shut up Lumpy
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/30/2010 9:03:19 PM | message detail
Damn looks like Wii Sports is fading away.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/30/2010 9:03:19 PM | message detail
And Wii Sports drops like a rock.

...Are you kidding me? Wii ****ing Sports of all games wins the board vote?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2010 9:03:37 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #078
And Wii Sports drops like a rock.

...Are you kidding me? Wii ****ing Sports of all games wins the board vote?


BOARD 8 LADIES AND GENTS

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NoDicePwn | Posted 9/30/2010 9:03:41 PM | message detail
You guys do realize Wii Sports is gonna end up at like 5-6%, right? Its not making it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2010 9:03:49 PM | message detail
Of course it does! It's the only Nintendo game in the poll!
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LOLContests | Posted 9/30/2010 9:03:50 PM | message detail
Phew, Sims looks safe for now.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2010 9:04:09 PM | message detail
Soul Calibur II winning is awesome.

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Big Bob | Posted 9/30/2010 9:04:24 PM | message detail
Final Day of Board 8's tally comparison:

Umineko no Japanese - 16 noms
Wii Sports - 12 noms
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow - 10 noms
Cave Story - 5 noms
Viewtiful Joe - 5 noms
Soulcalibur 2 - 4 noms
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec - 2 noms
Gears of War 2 - 1 nom
Guitar Hero II - 1 nom
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite - 1 nom
Company of Heroes - 0 noms
The Sims - 0 noms

Any poll where I find myself voting for Wii Sports has GOT to be pathetic.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2010 9:04:27 PM | message detail
Who else was in the other versions of SC2? Link, Heihachi, and Spawn? I don't remember.

Wii Sports...after how Soul Calibur did last year, I thought it was going to win. It still could since it's early and it's not the type of Nintendo-game to get a real board vote (especially with Umineko and even Cave Story in the poll), but I'm not impressed thus far.
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ZFS | Posted 9/30/2010 9:04:37 PM | message detail
Viewtiful Joe tied with Umineko welp there's some throw up in my mouth

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/30/2010 9:04:38 PM | message detail
A/D: Umineko will be ahead of Wii Sports by the end of the poll.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2010 9:04:51 PM | message detail
Also, I hope Wii Sports holds onto 4th place so it can have a first round matchup with Melee, or maybe Brawl if Bacon feels frisky about it.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 9/30/2010 9:05:00 PM | message detail
Sims making the Game of the Decade contest gives me a little bit more faith in Gamefaqs. This would have been a joke contest if the biggest selling game of this decade didn't make it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/30/2010 9:05:23 PM | message detail
Soul Calibur II winning isn't that surprising.

It was a decent game and probably one of most played fighting games of last gen outside of SSBM
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/30/2010 9:05:38 PM | message detail
Ladies and gents, Umineko does not have last in a poll.

Another victory for America.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/30/2010 9:05:42 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #087
Who else was in the other versions of SC2? Link, Heihachi, and Spawn? I don't remember.

Wii Sports...after how Soul Calibur did last year, I thought it was going to win.


Yeah, those were the three.

The original SC's problem is that it was a Dreamcast exclusive. 10 years after the fact, that won't bode so well for it.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/30/2010 9:05:47 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #092
Soul Calibur II winning isn't that surprising.

It was a decent game and probably one of most played fighting games of last gen outside of SSBM


it has Link

and

SPAWN
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/30/2010 9:06:03 PM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #091
Sims making the Game of the Decade contest gives me a little bit more faith in Gamefaqs. This would have been a joke contest if the biggest selling game of this decade didn't make it.


But the biggest selling game of the decade is dropping like a rock and may not even make the contest at this rate!
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LOLContests | Posted 9/30/2010 9:06:03 PM | message detail
GoW2 probably got this, unless The Sims has an equally atrocious board vote.
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DomaDragoon | Posted 9/30/2010 9:06:15 PM | message detail
Who else was in the other versions of SC2? Link, Heihachi, and Spawn? I don't remember.


Yeah. Link GC, Heihachi PS, Spawn Xbox.

And how did the Uminoodle game not get the board vote? I mean, it was on our top 10 list and everything! >_>
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NoDicePwn | Posted 9/30/2010 9:06:25 PM | message detail
Ladies and gents, Umineko does not have last in a poll.

Another victory for America.


I think its a bit too early to say that. We might be seeing a 2% drop from the board vote.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 9/30/2010 9:06:59 PM | message detail
But the biggest selling game of the decade is dropping like a rock and may not even make the contest at this rate!

I guess Wii Sports may technically hold that title, but pack in games don't really count.
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