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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 908

LeonhartFour | Posted 9/27/2010 11:50:33 PM | message detail
I suppose doing "well" is a relative term. When AC and DMC account for 1/3 of the votes in a poll, you've got a pathetic batch of games.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/27/2010 11:55:11 PM | message detail
Some maps before I go to sleep:

Favorite Nintendo Series

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3998&map=1

Mario wins the old Soviet bloc, Pokemon wins Southeast Asia, a bunch of countries scattered across the world, and......Saudi Arabia, where it's banned? Zelda is dominant in its power base in North America.

Favorite Square-Enix Series

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3996&map=1

I like the colors on this map. Chrono Trigger and Dragon Quest win 5 countries each, Final Fantasy wins everything else. Interestingly enough, Kingdom Hearts fails to win a single country, state, or mapped province despite coming in 2nd place.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/27/2010 11:56:07 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #402
Mario wins the old Soviet bloc


Considering how the Mario 1 sprite looks like Stalin, this is no surprise.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/27/2010 11:59:31 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #402
I like the colors on this map. Chrono Trigger and Dragon Quest win 5 countries each,


Dragon Quest wins 5 countries and not one of them is Japan?

...huh
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SubDeity | Posted 9/27/2010 11:59:58 PM | message detail
Totally random interjection, but how does one become a contest "guru?" I finished in the top 1.5% or so (ahead of half the gurus) in the last contest despite doing all analysis on my own, and I figure winning a guru contest is the only way I'll ever fulfill my dream of getting an Advance Wars character into a contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2010 12:00:37 AM | message detail

From: SubDeity | #405
Totally random interjection, but how does one become a contest "guru?" I finished in the top 1.5% or so (ahead of half the gurus) in the last contest despite doing all analysis on my own, and I figure winning a guru contest is the only way I'll ever fulfill my dream of getting an Advance Wars character into a contest.


When the bracket is released, there will be a topic with signups for the Guru contest, so look for it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/28/2010 12:00:51 AM | message detail
Game of the Decade (Jan. 2010)

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728&map=1

RE4 - 9 countries
GTA:SA - 9 countries
Chrono Cross - 6 countries
MW2 - 5 countries
SSBB - 5 countries
TP - 1 country

FFX dominates of course.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/28/2010 12:10:22 AM | message detail
Farmville poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4015&map=1

The English-speaking world uses Facebook, but most people in the non-English speaking world do not yet. Interestingly, Iraq is the only country that voted for one of the "yes, I play Farmville" options.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/28/2010 12:14:26 AM | message detail

From: SubDeity | #405
Totally random interjection, but how does one become a contest "guru?" I finished in the top 1.5% or so (ahead of half the gurus) in the last contest despite doing all analysis on my own, and I figure winning a guru contest is the only way I'll ever fulfill my dream of getting an Advance Wars character into a contest.


There's an actual guru contest, which is basically a giant sig bet where the winner picks the nomination for next contest. I'm sure you've seen all of us with Dr_Football sigs? Well, he picked WWF No Mercy for the N64. Ngamer64 runs that contest, so keep an eye out for it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/28/2010 12:21:12 AM | message detail

From: transience | #398
man, this sucks. I would have jumped on a hell of a lot of things over DMC and now it's out in the open. Assassin's Creed over Devil May Cry is no surprise to me, though maybe it isn't to anyone else either.


There isn't a single Board 8er who wouldn't look at the series contest and know this.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/28/2010 12:30:46 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #408
Interestingly, Iraq is the only country that voted for one of the "yes, I play Farmville" options.


What has become of the motherland.

Based on this result, I might take Devil May Cry over AC. DMC has a lot more console overlap here, and things are pretty close between the two as it is. Also, not sure if characters will be the focus of most pics, but it's hard to out-cool Dante, even when you're Altair (who couldn't out-cool Duke Nukem).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2010 12:33:09 AM | message detail
I'm not sure I buy big PS2 overlap because of the sheer variety and diversity of the console. It's not like the N64 which had 5 popular games that everyone who owned the system played. The PS2 had so much stuff available for it.
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transience | Posted 9/28/2010 12:33:28 AM | message detail
Assassin's Creed over DMC is an easy pick for me. It's just more relevant today. I'd take AC2 as well.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2010 12:34:04 AM | message detail
But it's not like we'll see DMC or AC in a match against each other here, unless DMC ends up as a 14 seed and AC2 is a 3 seed or something!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2010 12:35:32 AM | message detail
Also, PW3 is pulling away from L4D2 right now, aw yeah!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/28/2010 12:40:30 AM | message detail
Phoenix has much more steady trends now, it seems. I'm sure his fanbase is pleased.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2010 12:42:53 AM | message detail
Well, this isn't exactly a contest match, so it's not like there was a Board 8 rush at the beginning of the poll like he would normally get because there are fewer people here at midnight.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/28/2010 12:44:04 AM | message detail
True, but Phoenix himself was more consistent against Jecht, right?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2010 12:49:20 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #418
True, but Phoenix himself was more consistent against Jecht, right?


I suppose it depends on how you look at it. Phoenix had 52.20% against Jecht at the end of the board vote and 49.28% at the end of the first hour. Against Gordon, he had 51.39% at the end of the board vote, and 47.20% at the end of the first hour.

In 2007 round 1, he had 32.36% at the end of the board vote and 29.21% at the end of the first hour. In 2008 round 1, he had 27.92% at the end of the board vote and 26.98% at the end of the first hour. His night vote was actually pretty stable that year. It was during the day when he really collapsed.

PW1 was really frontloaded in the Games Contest. 17.29% at the end of the board vote and 13.48% at the end of the first hour. Night vote was relatively the same percentage with an even worse day vote collapse.

So Phoenix's night vote has become more stable, but his day vote should still be atrocious. Jecht probably could've seriously pushed for 54-55% against PW in a 24 hour match.
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transience | Posted 9/28/2010 12:51:05 AM | message detail
also, I agree with the idea that this is now a 128 bracket. maybe there'll be a week delay, but that's great because we get a full contest. maybe I'm reaching here but that means 12 hour matches are confirmed too unless we go back to fourways which won't really make much sense.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/28/2010 4:13:56 AM | message detail
Yeah, it feels like a safe bet that the contest is 128 games, 12 hour matches (except the last few matches). No way games as weak as Assassin's Creed 1 and Devil May Cry 1 are crushing vote-in polls for a 64 game contest.

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charmander6000 | Posted 9/28/2010 5:07:48 AM | message detail
Timesplitters 2 has almost caught up to Left 4 Dead 2. The game seems to be pretty popular in Europe, but as the kiddies wake up from across the pond L4D2 will probably take command.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/28/2010 5:25:33 AM | message detail
Timesplitters 2 is amazing.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/28/2010 6:06:37 AM | message detail
YEEEEEEEEAH GO TIMESPLITTERS 2!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/28/2010 6:14:54 AM | message detail
woooo cortezzzz
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/28/2010 6:33:38 AM | message detail
http://kotaku.com/5649540/in-which-samus-aran-jumps-on-stage-and-takes-her-clothes-off/gallery/

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/28/2010 8:54:36 AM | message detail
Poll has me thinking: Assassin's Creed 1 or 2, which is stronger? The fanbase loves 2 a lot more, but that never translates to contest strength by itself.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/28/2010 8:55:28 AM | message detail
That Samus image is just disturbing.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/28/2010 8:56:10 AM | message detail
Altair is stronger than Ezio in a contest setting, right?

So... 1 is stronger, maybe? But 2 got more noms cause the fanbase supports it more.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/28/2010 9:01:57 AM | message detail
Leonhart's idea about the 12 hour vote-in polls did not come true. Looks like all of these vote-ins will be 24 hours.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 9/28/2010 9:09:17 AM | message detail
I wonder if we will get 6 vote-in polls like last time or less (can't be more, right). If there are 6, then the bracket will come next week at the earliest. Is that enough time for a 128 1v1 12h bracket before Bacon's Christmas holiday? Maybe the surprise is... that the finals will be one week long like GameSpot but you can vote every day or something >_>
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/28/2010 9:15:42 AM | message detail
I wonder if we will get 6 vote-in polls like last time or less (can't be more, right).

I think we would have 6 vote-in polls. Having 4 vote-in polls means the last vote-in would be run on Friday. Bacon can't release a bracket until the polls are all finished, which means no bracket until Saturday at the earliest. But there's no way Bacon will release a bracket on Saturday, because he doesn't do anything on the weekends. So it would be very likely that we get 6 vote-in polls. 3 vote-in polls means the last one would be run on Thursday, but that's too few polls.

If there are 6, then the bracket will come next week at the earliest. Is that enough time for a 128 1v1 12h bracket before Bacon's Christmas holiday?

It would be likely be October 4th that a bracket is released, so I imagine the bracket entry phase could still last for like 2 weeks and we could still finish the contest before Christmas. We would need to start this contest by like October 20th to finish before Christmas.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/28/2010 11:35:37 AM | message detail
This poll's so lop-sided when you look at AC and DMC compared to the field; they're both beating MMX's record of 17.21% from the last contest, where his closest competition was HK-47 (13.41%) and the weakest opponent was Jade Curtis (4.42%). This will also likely be the first time only two options finish over ten percent, and Killer 7's got a shot at being the second to end under 3% (Emil from ToS had 2.89% last year). Considering AC's beating PW3 about like FF12 beat PW:AA, AC and DMC should have some strength...but certainly nothing to write home about. I wouldn't take FF12 to beat most 2000-2009 games that advanced past the first round, afterall, and if we were to treat the vote-ins like they're precise (haha!) and assume PW:AA > PW3, that's not good news for today's games. They'll be at a major disadvantage against any game we'd feel deserves a high seed. They'll have to count on some lucky draws...

...which isn't impossible if people based many of their noms on more recent games rather than researching what older games they liked came out this decade instead of the 90s. Even if they don't catch that kind of break, a few characters like The Boss got lucky draws anyway last contest. DMC and especially AC should be among the highest percentages too, so perhaps SB will look more favorably to them against the weaker high-seeds. Whatever the case, it's not looking good for them without some weaker games being highly nominated.


It's still weird seeing Shadow Hearts beat three games and being under a hundred votes from beating a fourth one, too...that made the Series Contest somehow, I know, but still, crazy.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/28/2010 11:37:02 AM | message detail
Shadow Hearts suffers from "good series with terrible fans" disease.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/28/2010 11:40:59 AM | message detail
Majora's Mask came out in 2000, right? I expect that to be in the vote-ins!
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/28/2010 11:43:22 AM | message detail
Yes, it came in 2000. If Majora's Mask could make it into the last Best Game Ever contest, it should easily make it into a contest that covers a narrower range of games.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/28/2010 11:43:57 AM | message detail
I think LoZ:MM will be a vote-in game too...and unless there's another LoZ-game in the poll, it's probably going to crush the others.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/28/2010 11:47:22 AM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #436
Yes, it came in 2000. If Majora's Mask could make it into the last Best Game Ever contest, it should easily make it into a contest that covers a narrower range of games.


I want to agree on the premise, but I think many games released in 2000-2002 or so would have kept many people from immediately realizing they should be eligible like they would with games from 2007-2009. It's not like the N64's presence was felt much in this decade anyway, so I could see it forgotten by many in their nominations. I know I wouldn't have realized the same about Perfect Dark if it wasn't for this board.
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Haguile | Posted 9/28/2010 11:48:48 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #437
I think LoZ:MM will be a vote-in game too...and unless there's another LoZ-game in the poll, it's probably going to crush the others.


Crossbow Training, believe.
Haguile | Posted 9/28/2010 11:49:18 AM | message detail
Jokes aside though, I didn't expect to see DMC in the vote-ins. I thought it would go straight to the contest.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/28/2010 11:50:14 AM | message detail
Hmm, you might be right about that. If it does make it into a vote-in, I can't think of any other LoZ-game that might be in the same vote-in that Majora's Mask is in. I doubt the handheld LoZ-games would get enough nominations to make it to a vote-in, and Wind Waker and Twilight Princess are pretty much locks to make the bracket without a vote-in.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/28/2010 11:56:30 AM | message detail

From: Haguile | #440
Jokes aside though, I didn't expect to see DMC in the vote-ins. I thought it would go straight to the contest.


noms probably split with 3 and maybe a few to 4
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/28/2010 11:57:10 AM | message detail
I'll give the handheld-LoZ games a bit of credit -- they've made several this decade and I think I remember a movement here for Oracle of Ages/Seasons, not to mention the success LoZ:LA had in BGE2. One of them probably should be able to reach a vote-in poll if not make the contest.

I agree LoZ:WW and especially LoZ:TP should be pretty much locks for the bracket though.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/28/2010 12:00:19 PM | message detail
I find it hard not to see a handheld Zelda in this bracket at all. If we can see Link's Awakening, we have to see something else in this decade.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/28/2010 12:01:28 PM | message detail
I wonder what percentage Umineko would get if it actually got in a vote-in.

I have trouble imagining it cracking 2% >_>
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Lopen | Posted 9/28/2010 12:02:28 PM | message detail
Archer from F/SN only hit 4% so that's a good baseline to start from.

I could see Archer doubling Umineko.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/28/2010 12:23:28 PM | message detail
Archer actually got 5.02% and took eighth place...but it was in a poll Frog won, likely the weakest winner of a vote-in last year (unless you don't think much of Meta-Knight). Archer also didn't beat Captain Olimar and Diddy Kong while LFF'ing each other by very much in that poll.

If Archer's series is supposed to be bigger than Umineko or whatever, it better pray for a much weaker poll than what Archer got...and Archer had fairly fortunate placement!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/28/2010 12:29:21 PM | message detail
man I hope resistance 3 doesn't sync with noms for the next contest

****ing Nathan Hale man
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/28/2010 12:31:04 PM | message detail
also

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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 9/28/2010 12:43:47 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #449
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