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It got 46.67% on MGS1, and I'm not taking MGS1 to beat FFX, Brawl, or Melee, personally.

It also had a new remake out since that contest.
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From: XxSoulxX | #051
It got 46.67% on MGS1, and I'm not taking MGS1 to beat FFX, Brawl, or Melee, personally.

It also had a new remake out since that contest.

I just covered this in my post.

Seriously.

And it's like we've forgotten that remakes are hardly ever worth anything here.

For example: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3858
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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

I'd probably take MGS > FFX, and GS did better against RBY (with LoZ:MM) than SSBM did (with LoZ:OoT). I don't want to chase this pick through that rabbit hole, but between that and adding both Crystal and the potential HG/SS-boost, it's got room to surprise people...especially if the Wii and Square has fallen here much since the last contest.
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Nominate EPONA from LoZ:OoT, LoZ:MM, and LoZ:TP!
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Trying to use which games did better in LFF matches feels like a slippery slope, and I have no interest in finding out what's at the bottom of that slope.
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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

And do we really think adding "/Crystal" is going to add any notable strength?
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

I agree about the LFF/SFF-matches (still trying to learn my lesson from Auron > Squall!), but there's at least been some precedent for it. I also doubt adding Crystal would do much, but it's another multi-million-selling game that completes the generation and we haven't seen any situations similar to this so we can't exactly say with good evidence either way. If somebody wanted to gamble on it giving a small boost -- certainly not a big one by itself -- I'd understand it.
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I don't know. I can't imagine many people didn't vote for G/S in the last Games Contest because it didn't include Crystal.

Why would you?

I mean, the differences between the versions aren't that great, are they?
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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

I think it might grab some people who only played Crystal, and it can't hurt to have more games in the same option anyway.
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Nominate Epona...or else.
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I don't know. I'd vote for Pokemon Red just as readily as I would Blue because I know they're essentially the same game, and I've only played Blue.

But that's just me, personally.
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I don't know. I can't imagine many people didn't vote for G/S in the last Games Contest because it didn't include Crystal.

Not a lot, but I can see a couple percent of voters changing their vote over Crystal's inclusion. You only need about 1 in 15 MGS voters to switch their vote over it for GSC to turn that match around. I don't think it can get that much or even close to it really, but every bit helps.

I'm quite tempted to take GSC to win the contest too, mainly because I think highly of MGS and not so highly of the Smash games and FFX. If you figure Pokemon has boosted another couple of percent since 2009, the upset is ripe for the taking. Tentatively I'm sticking with SSBM because GSC as contest champ doesn't really feel right- it doesn't feel like the Game of the Decade.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

You know what feels like a Game of the Decade?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728
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Support Squirtle (Pokemon R/B/Y) for Character Battle IX!
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Oh, I mean, I'd expect the same if somebody played Gold but only Silver was in the poll. I think of Crystal (and Yellow) like a tightened compilation of the two other games in its generation though, and people do still buy it by the millions whether everybody knows it's pretty much the same game or not.
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So what if she's a horse? She's got your back anyway.

Indeed. I wouldn't rule out respectworthiness (is that a word?) helping out FFX a bit.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

It worked for Mario Bros. in the Series Contest!

(Yes, I know it didn't win, shut up)
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Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX!
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I'm still amazed how well Mario Bros. did in the Series Contest. I knew it was the clear #3, but was expecting it to get 60-40'd by either FF or Zelda. Although I still blame the Ashe vs. Mario pic for hurting FF there.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

I know people want to blame the pic, but I don't think the effect was that great, personally. I think Mario's "respect" factor had a lot to do with it. I don't think Zelda would've killed it if it had somehow managed to win that match, but that's just gut instinct.
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"The great GF...Bahamut."
"...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..."

I wouldn't expect Zelda to hit it hard with SFF either, but I'd just thought the raw strength gap would be along the lines of Link/Mario. As for respect, if that makes SMB stronger, it'll make it stronger in every match, not just against FF or Zelda. And SMB did not look so great against SSB, only doing as well as FFVII had done against Melee by itself 2 years previously (and SSBM/CT were probably substantially overrated in 2004 to boot!). So it was quite a shock for me to see FF only win 53-47 instead of 60-40ish.

I think I predicted FF to beat Zelda in the Oracle, but that was just stubborn hope. FF/SMB was the death knell for FF's chances of winning that contest. I was relieved that FF managed to make it as close as it was in breaking 49%.

I suppose it's clear that FF/SMB wasn't really a 60-40 match, but I could easily see 3-4% of difference between Cloud pics (or better, Cloud/Squall/Tidus) and Ashe pics.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

Super Smash Bros. was a weird bird back in 2006. No way it does that now.
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Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX!
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Yeah, it's too bad we'll never get to prove this, but I think Melee would have been far and away the #3 game in 2006.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

Say we had another Series Contest, and we had Smash Bros. vs. Pokemon.

Who you got?
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Pokemon, it just beat Mario in the Favorite Nintendo Series poll, and doubled Smash or something. Taking Zelda out of the poll isn't going to reverse a doubling.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

But take every other series out of the poll, and which series is most likely to benefit?

I'd say Smash. I mean, they combined for, what 29% of the vote, looking at it? There's still 71% to go around once you take everything else out.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

I'm not convinced I've give more than a select few games any kind of positive boost for its respect, and none of them come from this decade. Just thinking off the top of my head:

FF7
LoZ:OoT
LoZ:LttP
RBY
SM64
SMB3
SMB1
CT (maybe)
old arcade classics like Pac-Man, Pong, Donkey Kong, Tetris.....

I'm not sure if anything else really gets respected enough to have people be influenced by it, and I'm not sure how much respect matters even then. Stuff that's ten years old or less...I just can't give them that much credit, especially if they didn't start some kind of craze with them. For as much hate as games like Halo and GTA3 have spawned, I'd almost rather assume they'll get respect-votes than FFX or SSBB anyway, especially as we get further away from those times -- they've sold much more copies, created many more headlines, and reshaped the games this decade a lot more.
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From: LeonhartFour | #076
But take every other series out of the poll, and which series is most likely to benefit?

We're talking about GameFAQs, right? Then the RPG.
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*obnoxiously enourages you to nominate Epona*
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From: HaRRicH | #078
We're talking about GameFAQs, right? Then the RPG.

Well, which series have we been talking about being so SFF resistant?

And which series is made up of characters from every series in that poll, just about?
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By respect, I mean that the title of the contest being "Game of the Decade" could help them. If I were a fan of neither and FFX won GOTD, I would probably be able to accept it, whereas Halo or Pokemon winning it might fill me with outrage. But I might not care if Pokemon beat FFX in a normal contest.

I guess the response to that would be: in that case you would still vote for FFX in the normal contest, which is probably true, but there's probably a small group of people who could do otherwise.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

Smash. Just a gut thing.
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*is Dranze*
Dr. Football swept me.

I'd say Smash. I mean, they combined for, what 29% of the vote, looking at it? There's still 71% to go around once you take everything else out.

But Smash has to make up a 10% gap, so it needs to win those voters 40-30 to catch up. I don't think it can do that when it's getting doubled among people who voted for either Smash or Pokemon.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

Eh, I don't think it's completely unfeasible. Smash Bros. is going to make up a good bit of that difference unless you think Pokemon 60/40s it.
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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

Why are we going by that poll anyway? It shouldn't decide a match between two games that are probably around the same level in popularity. Just think of it as a match between Smash and Pokemon.
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*is Dranze*
Dr. Football swept me.

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

...goddammit, did anybody quote my post before I deleted it? I tried to fix a few typos and lost it all.
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EEEEEPPPPPOOOOONNNNNAAAAA

*sigh*

Here's the gist of my deleted post:

1) Pokemon's done a lot of stuff in the past year or two to show it can actually compete with Mario here nowadays. Whether you want to say Mario dropped or Pokemon's flown up, that's fine, but I think it's more than just being SFF-resistant.
2) SSB with Brawl-hype doesn't look like the same SSB we saw in the Nintendo-poll.
3) I'm not sure if fans of other series at GameFAQs are going to side with a fighter with a few characters (or just an AT and/or level for some of them) over an RPG whose revolution is now growing up to be new users here.
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If it's any fighter, it's smash. I acknowledge that Smash most likely dropped since 2006, but looking at the last games contest, it still has plenty left in it. Only strong Pokemon game we saw was R/B/Y. G/S/C is good but mostly decent. All three Smash games are probably around the same level.
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*is Dranze*
Dr. Football swept me.

Harrich: I don't have the deleted post, but the point you brought up about Charizard getting 46% on Mario is thought-provoking. Clearly, Mario means a lot more to the Mario series than Charizard means to the Pokemon series. But if that's true, then you can't help but get Pokemon very close to or above Mario, which would be very very big indeed!
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

RBY > SSBM
SSBB > GSC (probably)
RSE + DP + BW + Stadium + Snap + Remakes + etc. > SSB64
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

You also have to remember that GSC got 46% of MGS with FFT in the poll, how much that affects it is debatable.

RSE + DP + BW + Stadium + Snap + Remakes + etc. > SSB64

You must think pretty lowly of SSB if you think Snap would beat it. I would also take it over the two Stadium games and possibly RSE.
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Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

Er, that's supposed to mean that all of those together easily outweigh SSB.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

Just like all the Sonic games together were supposed to?
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*is Dranze*
Dr. Football swept me.

Let's not compare Sonic to Pokemon!
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EPONA EPONA EPONA

...goddammit, did anybody quote my post before I deleted it? I tried to fix a few typos and lost it all.

Self-deleted messages are recorded in your moderation history. Go to http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/modhist.php and click on the Include Self-Deleted Messages link.
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Thank you TRE! Super-computer, I swear...! Here it is with some typos fixed:

From: LeonhartFour | #079
Well, which series have we been talking about being so SFF resistant?

And which series is made up of characters from every series in that poll, just about?

I'm not convinced that Pokemon's so SFF-resistant; Pokemon very well might just be bigger than Mario now. Pokemon beat Mario in the Nintendo-poll we've been discussing, plus Black/White had more hype here than SMG2. From Pokemon's introduction in 1998 onward, Pokemon's absolutely had a bigger presence here than Mario. Charizard beat Bowser and got 46% on Mario, a glitch from only RBY beat Yoshi (and Crono!), and I don't know if Luigi really wants a rematch with Pikachu. DP didn't get beaten that badly by Galaxy, and RBY beat MGS despite LoZ:OoT. Call it SFF-resistant all you want, but I'm also going to call it really REALLY strong. Not that I'm taking RBY > FF7 or anything, but I think it could fly past 40% whereas I don't think any projections we have of that match-up have RBY breaking 40%. I'm not taking Pokemon to beat Mario head-to-head either, but I'd be surprised to see much of a difference between them in strength nowadays...and how much have we seen lately that straight-up says Mario's taking that battle for sure?

Furthermore, I just don't buy SSB being some #3 Nintendo-favorite without SSBB-hype. What we saw in the Series Contest with SSBB-hype isn't the same SSB we saw in the recent Nintendo-poll. RBY's beaten every other Nintendo game's percentage against LoZ:OoT twice, significantly each time, while under different SFF/LFF'ing situations. GS has done better against RBY than SSBM did, and Pokemon has many more games. Good luck to SSB if it wants to compete against this Nintendo RPG whose revolution is now growing up here.


The second question's fair enough, but I don't feel too inclined to play Dissidia even though I like FF3/6 and FF7. I'm not sure if it's fair to assume some of those other games are going to side with SSB just because they have some characters in it (and some of those series only have a level or Assist Trophy in the game anyway).
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What do Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Twilight Princess have in common? EPONA!
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Er, that's supposed to mean that all of those together easily outweigh SSB.

I see...

Well my point still stands if anyone takes any non-mainline Pokemon game over SSB they deserve to slapped off the pokefear wagon. You'd also need to make a hell of an argument to take RSE and a decent one for DPP and BW (though court will be out on this one until it comes to America).
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Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

Regarding tonights poll, of most anticipated October game. What game does everyone think will win it? My money would be on New Vegas.
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I'm not convinced that Pokemon's so SFF-resistant; Pokemon very well might just be bigger than Mario now.

Considering Pokemon hasn't been SFF'd since Fox/Pikachu 2003 I find it hard to believe that the series suffers from much SFF.
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Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

I'm not saying Sonic is anything like Pokemon, but I hope we learned from the series contest that it's quailty over quantity.

I'm of the opinion that SSB, while probably isn't exactly equal to Brawl or Melee, is probably not all that weak. I feel like all Smash games at around the same general 'tier'.
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*is Dranze*
Dr. Football swept me.