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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/21/2010 7:54:21 PM | message detail
Obviously you'll receive karma for voting.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 9/21/2010 7:54:33 PM | message detail
Also, what's our speculation on what this new idea is? It's not related to the bracket or the format itself, so...what could it be that he's so sure it'll have people coming back for more every day?

Obviously resetting your vote every few hours, so you come back to vote more if you're more hardcore to the contest.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/21/2010 7:55:15 PM | message detail
oh man then I could have voted for Cecil twice against Knuckles
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/21/2010 7:57:58 PM | message detail
Obviously resetting your vote every few hours, so you come back to vote more if you're more hardcore to the contest.

Major Chrono Trigger and Nintendo boost coming up, major FFVII Deboost also.

Wait, only the last 10 years.......well, I think that favors SSBM or GSC. It'll stop Umineko from looking like Tanner though!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/21/2010 7:58:00 PM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #102
Also, what's our speculation on what this new idea is? It's not related to the bracket or the format itself, so...what could it be that he's so sure it'll have people coming back for more every day?

Obviously resetting your vote every few hours, so you come back to vote more if you're more hardcore to the contest.


Let's try not to name ways our contest could be more of a joke than Gamespot's thanks
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Haguile | Posted 9/21/2010 8:01:26 PM | message detail

Karma bets on every match with big payouts if you bet on the underdog!


This would be interesting if only because it would be hilarious to see people's gambling tendencies here.

"OH NO I JUST LOST 1000 KARMA. TIME TO RECOVER THAT BY BETTING 1000 KARMA YET AGAIN."

It would be beyond hilarious.
transients | Posted 9/21/2010 8:02:30 PM | message detail
might as well -- karma doesn't mean anything anyway. not that that will ever, ever happen.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/21/2010 8:05:00 PM | message detail
did you guys hear about Dissidia 2? Lightning is in it, so boost for her... even though she never had anything to boost from

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6276606.html

it's called "012 duodecim." wtf?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/21/2010 8:13:06 PM | message detail
Tifa's in it, too!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/21/2010 8:14:38 PM | message detail
And Kain! Maybe he can beat Raiden now.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/21/2010 8:18:02 PM | message detail
Although we didn't get a bracket today, there is a possible chance for Vote-Ins though. The next poll that will be coming up will be another original poll and not a re-run.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/21/2010 8:27:21 PM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/21/2010 8:27:52 PM | message detail
Get Locke and Barret in Dissidia 2, quick.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/21/2010 8:29:21 PM | message detail
flying black guy with a gun arm would be amazing
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NoDicePwn | Posted 9/21/2010 8:51:26 PM | message detail
I doubt they'll add more than 1 hero character from FFVII, and Tifa is already in. I hope we get to see Vivi, Auron and Locke though. I would say Celes, but she'd probably play too close to Terra.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 9/21/2010 9:00:17 PM | message detail
booo
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/21/2010 9:00:58 PM | message detail
lol libraries
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/21/2010 9:01:04 PM | message detail
Hot poll.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/21/2010 9:02:20 PM | message detail
Well, this poll isn't doing SSBB or LoZ:TP any favors right now.

Poor SMG, too, and Wii Sports may not want to be in this contest for a few more years.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/21/2010 9:02:24 PM | message detail
Come on iPhone....
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/21/2010 9:24:54 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #119
Well, this poll isn't doing SSBB or LoZ:TP any favors right now.


Exactly. Wii is a total joke console on this site now. Who would have thought that a console with one (soon to be two) legit Zeldas, two legit Metroids, two incredible Marios, and a Smash game could have been so weak. The GameCube would have never done so poorly in any poll. It's really hard for me to picture this site crowing a Wii game the best of the decade given our attitude toward the system.
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transience | Posted 9/21/2010 9:26:39 PM | message detail
Wii has been a total joke on this site for a while. Wii Sports has always been kind of a joke entry, not something that has any chance at being strong.

anyone expecting SMG2 to have a chance at GOTY is missing the boat entirely.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/21/2010 9:26:48 PM | message detail
The site had no problem crowning a GameCube game the top of the generation in 2004!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/21/2010 9:28:14 PM | message detail
FFX got dis
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transience | Posted 9/21/2010 9:28:47 PM | message detail
Gamecube never had the negative stigma that Wii has. Brawl would still do pretty well - that doesn't mean people are going to like the Wii. there is nothing that can be done to save that console's image for 'gamers'.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/21/2010 9:28:49 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #123
The site had no problem crowning a GameCube game the top of the generation in 2004!


The GameCube is disproportionally loved on this site. Wii is disproportionally hated.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/22/2010 2:14:24 AM | message detail
Part of it probably has to do with the fact that the GameCube was a commercial failure while the Wii is anything but, for reasons sickening to a hardcore gamer.

About this poll, I could imagine the Wii basically being a Brawl/Zelda machine for a Wii owner, which is rather saddening but what can you say? It perfectly explains why the Wii is not doing well in this poll, despite having two of this site's (apparent) favorite games (I could go on for hours about how my recent playthroughs revealed my order of 21st century Nintendo hits to be SMG2 >= SMG > MP > TP > SSBB, but...yeah).
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/22/2010 2:33:55 AM | message detail
Wii has been a total joke on this site for a while.

Probably as early as around mid-2008 or so. I found all these polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2631
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2992
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3362
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3725

The Wii really started to spiral downwards during 2008 and that was well before the motion control fad came about with Sony announcing the PlayStation Move (and later, Microsoft with their Kinect). Though the motion control fad has probably increased the backlash towards the Wii. 2009 would be another year of downward spiraling for the Wii. When there is another System of the Year poll, Wii should probably be only slightly lower than the last System of the Year poll.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/22/2010 2:39:26 AM | message detail
I think the biggest reason is that Wii is just so underpowered and different. It misses out on nearly all multiplats worth playing, and the ones it does get can be played on the other two systems in 1080p and with superior online. Even though GameCube was also not amazing with third party support, it was always seen as a contender. It was the best multiplayer console of the bunch (like anyone really cared about Xbox Live before Halo 2 hit) and a graphical powerhouse that gave gamers some beautiful looking games. The GameCube was never seen as "lacking." The Wii certainly is. Its games look much worse, its multiplayer - an area Nintendo dominated for at least two console generations - is archaic, and there's absolutely no sense of community among Wii owners. The 360 and PS3 offer gamertags, Achievements/Trophies, much easier voice chat and communication in general, and a vastly superior multiplayer gaming system.

With the GameCube and Prime, RE4, REMake, and Melee, I felt I was getting some of the best gaming experiences of the decade. With the Wii, unless there's a Galaxy in the console, it almost feels like I'm wasting my time. It's weird and almost sad.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/22/2010 4:29:00 AM | message detail
I didn't vote on today's poll, but I know I certainly wouldn't vote for the Wii. I do play a lot on the console but actual Wii games not too often. It's only been Brawl, Twilight Princess, and both Galaxy games so far this year for completed playthroughs of actual Wii games (even then only the main quests in the Galaxy games and unlocking every character and stage in SSBB, and in Twilight Princess I skipped a lot of minigames. Other M will follow soon, and then I'm probably wrapping up the Wii for good this year, though I will probably have Resident Evil 4 in January).

Between the rest it was difficult. I don't feel like voting for a handheld, and the PC, PS3, and 360 share a lot of the same games. Hmmm...

-PC exclusives aside from World of Warcraft don't seem so killer app so far.
-I've heard that the PS3 versions of The Orange Box and Fallout 3 are worse than their counterparts on other systems.
-360 has very few exclusives...wait, perhaps Halo 3 and Mass Effect 2 are enough? Yep, guess who I'm voting for.
charmander6000 | Posted 9/22/2010 5:37:45 AM | message detail
See I don't really understand how people can go on about hating the Wii then turn around and say the Gamecube was awesome. The libraries are pretty comparable (little 3rd party support, great 1st party). The only major difference between the two is that one is the best most sold console while the other finished last.

As for the decade contest I feel that Brawl and TP will be fine, the main thing is that the poll question wants us to take the console by average and it's quite likely that the favourite game probably isn't on the console that we voted for. Also the Wii hate was pretty large already by 2009 and it seems that only SMG has taken the major hit.


So does anyone think that MGS4 has a chance at taking this contest? While a lot of people think MGS4 will get weaker due to not being the only stand-out PS3 title anymore we could look at it as the PS3 gained popularity so thus MGS4 may have gain a slice popularity.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/22/2010 5:55:27 AM | message detail
Wow, that is brutal for the Wii.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/22/2010 6:37:20 AM | message detail
If we did a "Favorite Nintendo Console" poll...would the Wii be last?
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/22/2010 6:39:09 AM | message detail
If it isn't I would be surprised, what's it going to lose to?
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/22/2010 6:39:37 AM | message detail
Or win against I should say.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/22/2010 6:49:15 AM | message detail
Pretty hilarious, but not really unexpected at this point. Voted DS personally, but happy 360 is doing well too.

Don't think this will hurt Brawl or TP any, though I'm with charmander in wondering how people can love the Gamecube and hate the Wii considering how similar their big games are. I guess "OMG MOTION CONTROLS 666" is enough to deter most GameFAQs users, and the Nintendo fanboys probably sided behind the DS anyway.

Now I wonder how many people on this site have TP for Gamecube or Wii.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/22/2010 6:50:45 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #135
Or win against I should say.


If the Virtual Boy was on there, Wii should be able to beat that. I can also see handhelds like the Game Boy or Game Boy Color being SFFed or just genuinely weak enough to get their butts kicked. I could see Wii having a close match with GBA, actually.

I don't see Wii beating any of the actual consoles or even the DS.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/22/2010 6:51:23 AM | message detail
Well, most of GameFAQs seems to consider the original Xbox pretty mediorce(the poor bastards have never played JSRF, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Otogi argh...I digress), so it was really just a vote between PS2 and GC. Now you got the HD consoles with similar, awesome libraries that the Wii can't touch.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/22/2010 7:45:18 AM | message detail
Here's the adjusted x-stats from lol x-stats of the 54 games relative to SSBB. Seems like we can effectively break these games down into tiers. I guess the main question is who do you think will change the most?

SSB Brawl - 50.00
SSB Melee - 49.58
Twilight Princess - 46.41
Final Fantasy X - 44.75
Pokemon G/S/C - 42.38
Metal Gear Solid 4 - 42.01
Kingdom Hearts - 41.91
Resident Evil 4 - 41.37
Metal Gear Solid 3 - 41.11
Kingdom Hearts 2 - 40.79
Final Fantasy 9 - 36.73
Half-Life 2 - 36.25
Oblivion - 36.17
Fallout 3 - 35.57
Final Fantasy 12 - 34.98
Tales of Symphonia - 34.91
God of War - 34.76
Majoras Mask - 34.63
Wind Waker - 34.46
World of Warcraft - 34.37
Metal Gear Solid 2 - 33.77
GTA: San Andreas - 33.72
Diablo 2 - 32.53
GTA: Vice City - 32.35
Halo - 31.55
Halo 2 - 31.35
Call of Duty 4 - 31.00
Portal - 30.97
Star Wars: KotOR - 30.79
Metroid Prime - 30.70
Grand Theft Auto 4 - 30.43
BioShock - 29.61
Grand Theft Auto 3 - 29.04
Shadow of the Colossus - 28.91
Okami - 28.59
Halo 3 - 28.57
Super Mario Galaxy - 27.46
Left 4 Dead - 25.06
Pokemon D/P - 24.51
Morrowind - 24.40
Gears of War - 23.90
Disgaea - 23.56
Paper Mario - 22.25
Phoenix Wright - 20.95
Chrono Cross - 20.83
Mass Effect - 20.26
Street Fighter 4 - 18.83
Persona 4 - 18.83
Fire Emblem - 18.13
Perfect Dark - 17.91
LittleBigPlanet - 17.67
Team Fortress 2 - 15.88
Deus Ex - 15.57
Silent Hill 2 - 14.71

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XxSoulxX | Posted 9/22/2010 7:58:27 AM | message detail
See I don't really understand how people can go on about hating the Wii then turn around and say the Gamecube was awesome. The libraries are pretty comparable (little 3rd party support, great 1st party). The only major difference between the two is that one is the best most sold console while the other finished last.

The whole stigma around it. Gamecube was a legit console for us gamers, and it just fell short of the mark because of the PS2. Wii is not a console for us gamers, so the sales of it doesn't matter because gamers are still going to hate it.
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LOLContests | Posted 9/22/2010 8:12:48 AM | message detail
I don't think Galaxy really dropped that much. A non SFF match between it and Modern Warfare would have been close in 2007, and it would be close now, just in the other direction. If anything, I would guess that Modern Warfare boosted a little due to people playing it more, while Galaxy fell off a little since it was no longer only 2 months old.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/22/2010 9:16:32 AM | message detail
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Xeybozn | Posted 9/22/2010 9:48:36 AM | message detail
There's a surprising amount of games bunched up in that second tier of the x-stats, and they should actually be pretty close in strength. Anybody feeling confident enough about them to try ranking these ones?

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Diablo II
TES4: Oblivion
Fallout 3
God of War
Half-Life 2
Halo
Metroid Prime
Tales of Symphonia
World of Warcraft
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/22/2010 9:56:10 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #131
The only major difference between the two is that one is the best most sold console while the other finished last.


You're missing one huge factor, though: how they compare relative to their fellow consoles. GameCube compared just fine; it was on equal footing with the PS2 and Xbox. Wii is completely outclassed. It's just a lesser system.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 9/22/2010 10:26:29 AM | message detail
Introduce tiers, you say? Sure, I'll take a crack at it.

The Favorites
SSB Brawl - 50.00
SSB Melee - 49.58
Twilight Princess - 46.41
Final Fantasy X - 44.75

The Contenders
Pokemon G/S/C - 42.38
Metal Gear Solid 4 - 42.01
Kingdom Hearts - 41.91
Resident Evil 4 - 41.37
Metal Gear Solid 3 - 41.11
Kingdom Hearts 2 - 40.79

The Near-Elites
Final Fantasy 9 - 36.73
Half-Life 2 - 36.25
Oblivion - 36.17
Fallout 3 - 35.57
Final Fantasy 12 - 34.98
Tales of Symphonia - 34.91
God of War - 34.76
Majoras Mask - 34.63
Wind Waker - 34.46
World of Warcraft - 34.37

The High Mid-Carders
Metal Gear Solid 2 - 33.77
GTA: San Andreas - 33.72
Diablo 2 - 32.53
GTA: Vice City - 32.35
Halo - 31.55
Halo 2 - 31.35
Call of Duty 4 - 31.00
Portal - 30.97
Star Wars: KotOR - 30.79
Metroid Prime - 30.70
Grand Theft Auto 4 - 30.43

The Mid-Carders
BioShock - 29.61
Grand Theft Auto 3 - 29.04
Shadow of the Colossus - 28.91
Okami - 28.59
Halo 3 - 28.57
Super Mario Galaxy - 27.46
Left 4 Dead - 25.06
Pokemon D/P - 24.51
Morrowind - 24.40
Gears of War - 23.90
Disgaea - 23.56
Paper Mario - 22.25
Phoenix Wright - 20.95
Chrono Cross - 20.83
Mass Effect - 20.26

The Fodder
Street Fighter 4 - 18.83
Persona 4 - 18.83
Fire Emblem - 18.13
Perfect Dark - 17.91
LittleBigPlanet - 17.67

The Bad Fodder
Team Fortress 2 - 15.88
Deus Ex - 15.57
Silent Hill 2 - 14.71

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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/22/2010 10:29:22 AM | message detail
I honestly like how Nintendo is simply trying not to compete in the traditional sense.

Also I personally like how the Wii doesn't push graphics technology too far, but that's probably The Lorax in me speaking. I will definetely admit that the Wii's library is lacking overall.
Ngamer64 | Posted 9/22/2010 10:44:21 AM | message detail
And now let's see what I can come up with for

Changes to Expect in 2010

* MGS4 to perform like a Favorite, as long as it can draw a favorable matchup (like Brawl)
* G/S/C to look like a Favorite no matter who it draws
* KH1 and 2 to slip back to Near-Elites
* TP probably acts more like a high Contender

* Oblivion, ToS, and God of War slide to High Mid (ugh, that whole 4pack was wacky)
* WoW anti-voted down to a Mid-Card
* FF12 tumbles to Mid-Card
* Portal free-game boosts to a Near-Elite
* Prime and Galaxy to redeem themselves as Near-Elites (provided they can avoid Smash and TP)
* Reach boosts Halo to Near-Elite status? okay, probably not

* Pokemon D/P goes High Mid as long as it misses out on G/S/C
* SotC and Okami slip to Low Mid without the benefit of 4ways
* Disgaea can't crack the fodder line for the same reason
* PD jumps to Mid Card since it can't possibly draw the worst matchup imaginable twice in a row
* SF4 and TF2 squeeze past the fodder line
* Deus Ex and SH2 still don't

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NoDicePwn | Posted 9/22/2010 10:47:25 AM | message detail
I expect Fallout 3 to look better than last contest as well. Don't forget if it starts in like mid october like we expect it probably will, that'll be right when New Vegas comes out and a lot of the site will be in a Fallout mood.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/22/2010 11:11:17 AM | message detail
*looks at top 10*

Didn't think Board 8 loved MGS3 so much.

* Deus Ex and SH2 still don't

I wouldn't count SH2 out, it was stuck in a match with FFX and MGS2. It'll still be weak, but not as weak as the stats suggest.


I expect Fallout 3 to perform slightly better even if Fallout Las Vegas wasn't coming out. While it held it's own against MGS4 in the game of the year poll, something about Halo 3, Portal and Call of Duty 4 makes me feel that it was held back a bit.

Then again Las Vegas coming out is probably good for the game since Fallout 3 does feel like one of those games that people may not remember as time passes by.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 9/22/2010 11:12:08 AM | message detail
From: Ngamer64 | #147
Changes to Expect in 2010

WHAT ABOUT BIOSHOCK!?
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