GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 906
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 12:28:41 PM | message detail |
I nominate Squall every year despite knowing he's a lock to get in and get a high seed. I don't blame people for nominating their favorite character, even if it is Link or Cloud. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 12:30:12 PM | message detail |
I
think it's also possible that people didn't use up all their
nominations, meaning there might have been more unique nominators.
Speaking of which, I still have 7 nominations left for this
contest.......Either way, yeah, really impressive total for Link there
when people ought to know he's the 6-time contest champ. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
yoshifan823 | Posted 9/18/2010 12:31:14 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #252 Rock Band 2, seriously. --- Reg, you are so damn obnoxious, shut up |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 12:32:04 PM | message detail |
Yeah,
I don't think it's necessarily an indication of less people nominating,
but of people nominating less. I had a hard time thinking of 15 games I
wanted to nominate. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/18/2010 12:32:47 PM | message detail |
Low
nominations is a good thing for this contest. Casual people are much
more likely to forget about older games and nominate stuff that's come
out in the past two years. --- DFF |
Haste_2 | Posted 9/18/2010 12:39:33 PM | message detail |
Exactly. I have some concern about Pokemon GSC not making it, despite the high amount of nominations from Board 8. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/18/2010 2:45:30 PM | message detail |
1853
nominations... whoa. If there were 50,000 nominations, with 10 noms for
each user on average, that means more than 1 in 3 nominated Link. That
also means at least 1 in 3 are either blind Link fanboys, or they just
don't get the concept of trying to nominate characters that aren't a
shoo-in. The 1853 nominations for Link was for the last Character Battle and that had around 90000 nominations. This was reported by Bacon right here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/11-sballin/52710410 --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/18/2010 2:59:07 PM | message detail |
With
nominations closing soon I've taken the updated tally topic and created
a bracket, I just merely went down the list so any match-ups are purely
coincidental. Taking a quick look it seems the board should have
organized itself on which Castlevania and Fire Emblem game to support.
Also Umineko's chances at reaching the bracket is pretty low,
especially if we're going to have a vote-in. Division 1 1) WWF No Mercy 16) Animal Crossing 8) Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 9) Silent Hill 2 5) Bioshock 12) Grand Theft Auto III 4) Super Smash Bros. Brawl 13) Left 4 Dead 2 6) Kingdom Hearts II 11) TimeSplitters 2 3) Marvel vs. Capcom 2 14) Final Fantasy IV 7) Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 10) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 2) Batman: Arkham Asylum 15) Final Fantasy X-2 Division 2 1) Sonic Adventure 2: Battle 16) RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 8) Fallout 3 9) Street Fighter IV 5) Valkyria Chronicles 12) Punch-Out!! 4) The World Ends With You 13) The Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition 6) Conker’s Bad Fur Day 11) Mario Kart DS 3) Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 14) Viewtiful Joe 7) Wii Sports 10) Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn 2) Final Fantasy IX 15) Psychonauts Division 3 1) Super Mario Galaxy 16) Super Mario Shunshine 8) Deus Ex 9) Mass Effect 5) Mother 3 12) BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger 4) Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 13) Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen 6) Kingdom Hearts 11) Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII 3) Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations 14) Cave Story 7) Perfect Dark 10) Metroid: Zero Mission 2) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 15) Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards Division 4 1) Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 16) The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 8) Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 9) Link’s Crossbow Training 5) F-Zero GX 12) Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia 4) Mario Party 2 13) Plants vs. Zombies 6) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 11) Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow 3) Mega Man 9 14) Dissidia: Final Fantasy 7) Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 10) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask 15) ICO |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/18/2010 2:59:18 PM | message detail |
Division 5 1) Final Fantasy X 16) The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages/Seasons 8) Elite Beat Agents 9) Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow 5) Eternal Darkness: Sanity’s Requiem 12) Dead Rising 4) Paper Mario 13) Pikmin 2 6) Skies of Arcadia: Legends 11) Beyond Good & Evil 3) Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening 14) Dynasty Warriors 4 7) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 10) Suikoden V 2) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 15) Golden Sun: The Lost Age Division 6 1) Super Smash Bros. Melee 16) Spyro: Year of the Dragon 8) Half-Life 2 9) Ogre Battle 64 5) Suikoden III 12) Banjo-Tooie 4) Civilization IV 13) Star Wars: Battlefront II 6) Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance 11) God of War 3) Shadow of the Colossus 14) Borderlands 7) Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald 10) Katamari Damacy 2) Okami 15) LittleBigPlanet Division 7 1) Resident Evil 4 16) SoulCalibur II 8) God Hand 9) Rock Band 2 5) Umineko no Naku Koro ni 12) World of Warcraft 4) Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 13) Tales of Vesperia 6) Fire Emblem 11) Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story 3) Disgaea: Hour of Darkness 14) Assassin’s Creed II 7) Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal 10) Braid 2) Metroid Prime 15) New Super Mario Bros. Wii Division 8 1) Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal 16) Advance Wars 8) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 9) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 5) Chrono Cross 12) Demon’s Souls 4) Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum 13) Mario Kart Wii 6) Golden Sun 11) Warcraft III 3) Tales of Symphonia 14) Dynasty Warriors 5 7) Team Fortress 2 10) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 2) Portal 15) Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 7:58:16 PM | message detail |
What
kind of percentages would you expect for Samus vs. Crono? That would be
a nice "normal" Noble Nine matchup, with no SFF or other oddities
likely. Unfortunately there's no debate as to the winner, even from me
who insists that Crono has some chance against Mario. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 7:58:58 PM | message detail |
Hmmm... Probably 57/43 or so, I guess. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:12:22 PM | message detail |
57%
sounds about right after Other M. I'd go with 55% (what Samus got in
2008 with Vincent and Pikachu) in the case that Other M does nothing
for her. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:14:55 PM | message detail |
I
could see Samus breaking 60%. It feels like every year should be *the
year* Crono finally falls off a cliff, but he just manages to do enough
to stay on the edge. My little brother (whose first Metroid was Prime in Prime Trilogy) seems to really like Other M, so there's actually a possibility that Samus could see a boost. Assuming Other M neither helps nor hurts her though, 57/43 sounds about right for a 24-hour match. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png Nominate Ogre Battle 64 for the Game of the Decade contest! |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:17:18 PM | message detail |
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:18:36 PM | message detail |
Never mind I am bad at reading columns. Crono is not Pikachu and Samus is not Vincent. This is useful I'm sure. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png Nominate Ogre Battle 64 for the Game of the Decade contest! |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:25:56 PM | message detail |
Well,
I don't think there really is a cliff so much as a slope. This year is
not so different from last year, or the next year, that Crono's going
to weaken much faster in any of them. CT probably made appreciable
falls from 2004 to 2005, 2005 to 2006, and 2006 to 2007. If there was a
collapse year for CT, it was probably 2007, and CTDS is what has
stabilized it and probably brought it up a bit since then. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 8:27:57 PM | message detail |
I
still don't think CTDS had much of an effect at all, although we don't
really have much to work with in 2010 from CT characters since they all
sucked and lost in round 1. --- Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3834/banner1barret.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:29:35 PM | message detail |
And
speaking of gradual declines, look for OOT to start down that path
fairly soon. CT came out in 1995, and started falling in 2005. FFVII
came out in 1997, and looks like it started falling in earnest in
perhaps 2008 (the first year we noticed its day vote had weakened). OOT
came out in 1998, though it's probably cushioned by a few years by
having a younger audience that played it than the 2 Square RPGs. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 8:30:36 PM | message detail |
Ocarina of Time is actually going to get a remake that'll sell well though, so that should cancel a lot of that out. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:31:44 PM | message detail |
I
still don't think CTDS had much of an effect at all, although we don't
really have much to work with in 2010 from CT characters since they all
sucked and lost in round 1. Well, at the least, Crono and Frog looked a bit better in 2008 than 2007, whereas they'd looked substantially worse in each of the previous 3 years. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 8:32:51 PM | message detail |
Crono
and Frog looked about the same. Crono managing to beat Vincent feels
like it was more on Vincent than on Crono actually improving (As you
just said, this was the year we started noticing somewhat of a decline
in FFVII's day vote). --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:43:56 PM | message detail |
Did
Frog really look better in 2008 than 2007? You replaced Midna with
Ganondorf and Frog managed just over a 5% increase on Samus. Frog's
first-round match with Ganondorf looked good at the time, but since
that match Ganondorf's record is: 38% on Samus (w/ Frog/Nightmare) 33% on Samus (w/Vincent/Gordon) 58.5% on Mewtwo 64% on a Ken who almost lost to Wesker Pigdorfed to a 43% on a Sonic who barely outdid Luigi< against Link In hindsight, 2008 was not a good year at all for Frog. His lone positive is beating KOS-MOS. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png Nominate Ogre Battle 64 for the Game of the Decade contest! |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:48:58 PM | message detail |
It's
not just Crono/Vincent- in retrospect, losing to Vincent was actually
probably Crono's most impressive match in 2007, and it was in the
sprite round (if it does anything for CT) and where he got a massive
surge at the start in a very hyped up match. Not even holding 53%
against Zero was just awful, really awful. In 2008, Crono put up
respectable performances against Ryu, Samus, and Vincent. Also, Frog improved substantially against Samus in 2008, if you compare the round 2 matches, albeit by replacing Midna with Ganondorf. He went from 27.52% to 33.14%, which taken at face value projects him to get 58.5% on his former self. Of course Ganondorf obviously leeched Samus worse than Midna, but looking at how Vincent did, it didn't look like anything huge. Plus 2008 was the year of the Deboost, but Frog still looks more respectable there than in 2007. He got 42.08% against Scorpion in 2007- that's really bad. I agree that any boost in 2008 was small and possibly it was just holding steady, but even that is a lot better than freefall. The jury's still out on what happened after CTDS actually came out......2010 = 2008 seems reasonable for now. Who wins- 2008 Ganon or 2010 Bowser? --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/18/2010 8:50:47 PM | message detail |
Catching up with the Gamespot topic (lol Gamespot) made me think of this match. Magus vs Kerrigan. Who would you pick now that SC2 is out and Kerrigan is the soon-to-be Gamespot Villain Contest champ? --- Wylvane CombuskenEngine is a horrible user. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 8:51:35 PM | message detail |
Magus. I'm not picking Kerrigan to win anything here until she actually does it. Well, unless she's facing Neku or something. --- http://img.imgcake.com/ultigardenpngba.png |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:52:25 PM | message detail |
You can't really hold Ganon's horrid 2010 against Frog in 2008. Link fell off a lot in 2010, but looked fine in 2008. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:52:27 PM | message detail |
How big was Kerrigan in Starcraft II? From what I've heard she gets name bombed a lot, but doesn't appear until near the end. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 9/18/2010 8:53:24 PM | message detail |
I'm kinda scared about this Youtube guy if Kerrigan gets a match. rallying 6k votes in 15 minutes is no joke. --- Albion Hero |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:55:54 PM | message detail |
I'm kinda scared about this Youtube guy if Kerrigan gets a match. rallying 6k votes in 15 minutes is no joke. Makes you wonder why this hasn't happened more often on GameFAQs. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:56:19 PM | message detail |
It'll
be just like Magus to lose a 6k lead in the final 15 minutes. Frog put
up 62.76% on Kerrigan back in 2007 though. Assuming 60-40 for
Magus/Kerrigan now thanks to SC2 and because Magus sucks,
that's......10k votes at night, 15k in the day. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 8:56:26 PM | message detail |
Nobody cares about GameFAQs. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/18/2010 8:57:07 PM | message detail |
Didn't you overreact and take a guy who got doubled by a Ganon-leeched Samus over Tifa last character battle, Albion? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png Nominate Ogre Battle 64 for the Game of the Decade contest! |
NoDicePwn | Posted 9/18/2010 8:59:00 PM | message detail |
I
obviously thought Tifa was the favorite, but you gotta take off the
wall upset picks sometimes if you want to win the contest (like HARRICH
did with RAAM beating Sephiroth). In the offchance that Valve got
involved, I woulda been golden. --- Albion Hero |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 8:59:31 PM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #283 Keep telling yourself that, darling. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/18/2010 9:00:11 PM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #278 Of course, would he care enough to rally for a GameFAQs contest? It's not like 4chan ever put much effort to our contests compared to Gamespot. Also, would Kerrigan face anybody that could easily withstand that? I think Link would have no trouble laughing off 6k votes for freaking Kerrigan, and I'm sure all the elites and most of the near-elites could as well, barring Kerrigan getting a major boost from SC2. Though even a small rally could push Kerrigan over, say, Magus. Still don't think rallying would really propel Kerrigan too high, though it's not unprecedented either (Mario vs Cloud, L-Block). --- Wylvane ctesjbuvf is a horrible user. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 9/18/2010 9:01:54 PM | message detail |
I
don't think rallying could get Kerrigan anywhere against established
characters, but it could be the dealbreaker against high fodder/low
midcard characters, and that may be who she faces next contest since
she'd probably get a moderately good seed coming off of Starcraft 2. --- Albion Hero |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 9:02:41 PM | message detail |
I
obviously thought Tifa was the favorite, but you gotta take off the
wall upset picks sometimes if you want to win the contest (like HARRICH
did with RAAM beating Sephiroth). In the offchance that Valve got
involved, I woulda been golden. I think you don't, actually. creativename and Yoblazer's way is better- just consistently make good picks. Upset specials are almost by definition bad picks because you don't actually think they are likely to happen. Of course just picking what you think will happen only works if you're a really good predictor, but then, you'll probably only win the contest if you're a really good predictor anyway, or you get really lucky, which you can't control. Or at least, that's what I'm telling myself after years of trying to catch upset specials and not succeeding at it. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 9:04:13 PM | message detail |
It's all about "calculated risk." Expecting Valve to rally Gordon to victory isn't a calculated risk. --- Please sign up to support the 2010 Nomination Rally Tournament winners! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/55967577 |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 9:06:56 PM | message detail |
I
suppose that makes FFVII > Starcraft in the final really really
stupid (though if I was a little smarter, I would have gone with
Starcraft > FFVII). Hey, no #2 game had ever placed in a 4-way
contest before! --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 9/18/2010 9:07:43 PM | message detail |
I
do agree it was a pretty bad choice though, since the chance of it
happening was low... and at this point, I pretty much expect no
companies themselves will ever get involved in our contest, for
whatever reason. Its got to be one of my worst picks over the years,
but you live and learn. --- Albion Hero |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/18/2010 9:10:54 PM | message detail |
Picking Gordon to win wasn't really that bad an idea. No different than hoping L-Block would catch lightning in a bottle. --- ¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸ "Ulti's sig rotation of ego-stroking!" -Leonhart4 |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/18/2010 9:11:10 PM | message detail |
Instead of lol GameSpot we really should be going lol GameFAQs since nobody cares about our contests. >_> <_< --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 9:12:12 PM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #291 Those were both "bad" picks from a "calculated risk" perspective. Never bet on rallying. Besides, you didn't even need to pick L-Block to win a single match to win prize money! --- Support Morrigan Aensland (Darkstalkers) for Character Battle IX! http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9302/banner5morrigan2.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/18/2010 9:13:04 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #292 Compare our daily votes and site traffic to theirs. --- "LMFAO, ulti, not that you need any more money, but you really should be getting paid to post these days" -Sess |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/18/2010 9:16:37 PM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #286 Eh, I think Kerrigan could beat high fodder even without rallying at this point. I wouldn't be surprised to see her become another Nathan Drake after SC2. And you guys do remember that Palmer won a contest, right? --- Wylvane Chrono1219 is a horrible user. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/18/2010 9:17:12 PM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #295 No, he didn't. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about PW/Jecht |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/18/2010 9:17:25 PM | message detail |
Compare our daily votes and site traffic to theirs. But apparently nobody cares about GameFAQs. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 9:18:07 PM | message detail |
Those were both "bad" picks from a "calculated risk" perspective. Never bet on rallying. Besides, you didn't even need to pick L-Block to win a single match to win prize money! Don't know about that. Picking L-Block to win + Any sort of competent bracket, which anyone on B8 would make + L-Block winning = Victory What is the probability of L-Block winning? 1/100? 1/200? 1/1000? What is the probability of winning the contest normally? There's 200ish Gurus to start with who you figure will have competent brackets, and we have a lot more non-B8 winners than B8 winners, so........it's hard to place your odds above 1/400, even assuming you are a better predictor than most Gurus (we see some really absurd picks from a lot of people). With 40,000 brackets, there's also 400 brackets in the top 1%, which is a mark a lot of people reach a lot in this topic. So if top 1% is typical, that'd also suggest something around a 1/400 chance of winning. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/18/2010 9:19:49 PM | message detail |
More people care enough to vote in ours. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 9/18/2010 9:19:59 PM | message detail |
Compare our daily votes and site traffic to theirs. You've got a point on Daily votes, but... Gamespot: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/gamespot.com Rank: 252 Gamefaqs: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/gamefaqs.com Rank: 573 If Gamespot had the vote somewhere that was much easier to see like Gamefaqs does, I'm pretty sure their votes would kill ours. But you gotta go through several links to reach all the matches and its not very user friendly at all. --- Albion Hero |