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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/3/2010 11:22:32 PM | message detail

From: yoshifan823 | #194
I think that, over time, you're gonna see Halo improve, as more and more people get away from the "lol console shooter" and "lol xbox" and "lol casual gaming" (according to my definition, Halo is casual gaming for sure) mindsets, because the series is still coming out with new (and what looks like better) games, and Halo is eventually gonna be seen much like Goldeneye is, which is a game with a single-player campaign that... exists... and multiplayer that provided so many people good times.


I doubt it. The jury's out on Halo series strength, but I got the feeling last year that the original might be the strongest and that each subsequent release was another tiny step down. ODST and Reach may be technically better games (I have no idea) but they still won't mean as much to the series as a numbered sequel that sells millions more and generates more hype. Chief's arc is apparently over (once again, I have no idea), and Bungie is leaving the series. Halo will also sink, just at a slower rate than old Chief. Of course, since they're already nothing impressive now, they'll probably be borderline fodder by the time we get our next legit games contest.
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ZFS | Posted 9/3/2010 11:29:51 PM | message detail
Halo Reach is Halo 4 without the number. It'll put up the numbers of a normal Halo game -- it's not some side project or anything. Reach is the real deal as far as sequels (it prequel, in this case) go.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/3/2010 11:31:18 PM | message detail

From: yoshifan823 | #194
I think that, over time, you're gonna see Halo improve, as more and more people get away from the "lol console shooter" and "lol xbox" and "lol casual gaming" (according to my definition, Halo is casual gaming for sure) mindsets, because the series is still coming out with new (and what looks like better) games, and Halo is eventually gonna be seen much like Goldeneye is, which is a game with a single-player campaign that... exists... and multiplayer that provided so many people good times.


This site's favorite game is almost 15 years old. Halo hate will never ever go away here.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 9/3/2010 11:32:57 PM | message detail
Hey, TRE, what's the longest wait from contest announcement to first match we've ever had, while we're on the subject?

(Excluding the Quote Contest, of course)


Gap between nominations opening and first match going up:
Villains Contest - 29 days
Character Battle IV - 31 days
Best. Series. Ever. - 56 days
Character Battle V - 48 days
Quotes Contest - We're still waiting
Character Battle VI - 33 days
Character Battle VII - 41 days
Best. Game. Ever. 2009 - 127 days
Character Battle VIII - 59 days

127 days. Nominations for Best. Game. Ever. 2009 opened on December 1st, 2008 while the first match was April 7, 2009.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/3/2010 11:34:05 PM | message detail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_reach

Halo: Reach is a first person shooter. Players assume the role of a supersoldier, Noble 6

Side game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/3/2010 11:34:51 PM | message detail
So...Excluding the last Games Contest, usually one or two months after nominations.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/3/2010 11:35:14 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #205
Players assume the role of a supersoldier, Noble 6


So I guess they kicked out Crono, Sonic, and Mega Man.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/3/2010 11:36:40 PM | message detail
*watches awkwardly as you dance off stage*
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ZFS | Posted 9/3/2010 11:37:47 PM | message detail
Well, if that's how you decide what constitutes a main game and a side game okay then! Everyone else will treat it differently!
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yoshifan823 | Posted 9/3/2010 11:39:15 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #203
This site's favorite game is almost 15 years old. Halo hate will never ever go away here.


Just because their likes are stuck on something lame doesn't mean their dislikes have to be. I mean, Sonic's strength is going down, that clearly means that they're taking the most recent (read: horrible) games into effect there. I honestly can't believe a site with an Xbox 360 install rate as high as this ones still hates Halo, because the main reason people hated Halo was because it was on the Xbox, whether you were a Sony/Nintendo/Sega fan, or a PC fan.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 9/3/2010 11:40:21 PM | message detail
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/3/2010 11:41:48 PM | message detail
Games 2009 would have had a normal time frame if Allen was allowed to start it when he wanted. We were really really close to having that contest canceled.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/3/2010 11:41:50 PM | message detail
I'm partly basing it on the last one. ODST also had a big marketing campaign and sold millions, but it didn't have Chief or a number in the title, and it looked awful in the GotY. Any of the three main Halos would destroy it, while they'd all likely go near 50/50 with each other. Reach may do a bit better, but there's no way it can reverse the series' inevitable decline, not after Bungie's departure.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/3/2010 11:43:05 PM | message detail
Why was the wait for that one so long, anyway? GotY polls end in mid-January, yet we didn't start until April? I can barely even remember any of this...
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/3/2010 11:44:05 PM | message detail
I'm actually a bit disappointed that this contest is only for games from last decade.

Want to agree with me?
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/3/2010 11:45:14 PM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #215
I'm actually a bit disappointed that this contest is only for games from last decade.

Want to agree with me?


Thumbs up if you agree!
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ZFS | Posted 9/3/2010 11:47:33 PM | message detail
You shouldn't be basing it off ODST, because ODST was a side game -- it was an expansion pack to Halo 3 created by a small team. Reach, in every meaningful way, is the next big Halo game --it's also Bungie's last. It's a brand new engine, a story that connects to the main trilogy, and looks like it'll be the best one since the original. It's not a side project, and if any Halo game cam reverse the series' fortunes on this site, it'll be Reach. This will be as popular, and sell as well, as any numbered game. The main character isn't what makes it breaks it here.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 9/4/2010 1:05:19 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #215
I'm actually a bit disappointed that this contest is only for games from last decade.

Want to agree with me?


I'm gonna disagree, because I don't think it would be too different from '09 if it were just a normal games contest. At least this way we get the heaviest hitters out of the way, and in a way that doesn't seem like Allen is just saying "No FFVII or OoT".

Plus, there'll be games that don't normally get in (hopefully).

Another question: How will Batman: Arkham Asylum fare in this? People love Batman, and AA is probably one of the most universally loved games of the past decade, will it be able to go far, or will it be very similar to Half-Life 2?
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/4/2010 4:37:25 AM | message detail
Arkham Asylum to be a little stronger than GTAIV here we come.

Speaking of which, Grand Theft Auto IV, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime, BioShock, Halo 3, which one is strongest (no I don't mean if the three were against each other in a 3-way, the winner would be obvious)?
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/4/2010 5:11:56 AM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/4/2010 2:43:05 AM | message detail
Why was the wait for that one so long, anyway? GotY polls end in mid-January, yet we didn't start until April? I can barely even remember any of this...


When the nominations first went up, it was pretty much all Board 8 until sometime in February where the nominations were finally mentioned on the homepage. I guess Bacon was lazy in trying to get a nomination link placed on the homepage.
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voltch | Posted 9/4/2010 5:13:27 AM | message detail
this contest is staaaaacked, since we got almost the entire upper midcard.

but missing all the big heavy hitters is always a shame.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/4/2010 5:16:50 AM | message detail
ODST had Halo 3's multiplayer, while Reach's is brand new and overhauled. Dunno if Reach would match the mainline Halo's, but it certainly wouldn't embarrass like ODST. It did alright in the September poll, at any rate.

Anyway, CoD4 vs Pac-Man is a horrible example and nobody in their right mind would pick Pac-Man in that situation. CoD4 is pretty damn strong, while Pac-Man coasts on name recognition, which is why it can stand out in the older divisions against ancient fodder.

And echoing what everyone else already said, generational divisions are horrible. It screwed us out of a FF7/OoT final in 2004, it screws us out of a lot of interesting matches between old and new (I'd really love to see SMB3 or World kick some new-game asses), and it'd help get rid of the old-school fodder in favor of more strong games from recent eras.

Anyway, Pac-Man vs Halo? Interesting, but I'd probably take Halo there. I mean, would you take Pac-Man over Starcraft? And that was with lots of rallying and people looking for that 16 > 1 upset. I don't think Pac-Man could pull it off there, no matter how anti-voted Halo is. Plus a possible Reach boost can't hurt Halo.

Now, Pac-Man vs Master Chief, on the other hand, I could see Pac-Man winning that. Hell, give it a few more years, and I could see Guybrush Threepwood beating Master Chief. I mean, he did avoid the quadrupling against Vincent and all!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/4/2010 5:19:33 AM | message detail
I wouldn't mind if Bacon took the Top 2 or 4 and made an ultimate bracket with FF7, OoT, and maybe CT or LttP or SMB3/World/64 or whatever.

Still, if we do generations again, we'll be seeing FFX vs Melee pretty early on. That should be a semi-final or final match, depending on whether Melee is on FFX's or Brawl's side.
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voltch | Posted 9/4/2010 5:44:14 AM | message detail
i never ever want to see a generations bracket.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2010 6:56:00 AM | message detail
Pac-Man has little chance against Master Chief. When he's not being SFF he's only a low midcard, the guy isn't touching characters like Hayabusa and Sub-Zero.


I wouldn't mind if Bacon took the Top 2 or 4 and made an ultimate bracket with FF7, OoT, and maybe CT or LttP or SMB3/World/64 or whatever.

Anyone thing the next game contest will include a Tournament of Champions like 2k5 did?
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 9/4/2010 7:09:09 AM | message detail
From: voltch | #221
this contest is staaaaacked, since we got almost the entire upper midcard.

but missing all the big heavy hitters is always a shame.


The contest is stacked, but we don't have the top 2, two of the leading candidates for #3 (RBY and LttP) or half of the rest of the Top 10. What would be stacked (and also really awful) would be a Nintendo only games contest. This field will be solid but other than FFX and the two SSBs, there are no or actual powerhouses in this competition.

Personally, I think this contest is here for the same reason as we had the Villains contest. Give someone else a win so we can create a new Games Contest, no restrictions but with FFVII, OoT and the winner of this in a ToC and we'll have that contest Spring or Summer of 2012.
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voltch | Posted 9/4/2010 7:26:53 AM | message detail
yeah, the entire main event scene is missing, so another contest without the top 2 and this year's champ, ooh boy, r/b/y vs lttp, or perhaps SM64 manages to win out of left field, tons of cool stuff could happen.

heck i think SMW could beat FFX which will be a super powerhouse this contest.
though a contest with no gen split without FFVII/OOT/Winner of this, oh man.

the upper tier of the 90s vs the top tier of this decade, toss in Starcraft, goldeneye, FFVI/VIII, Metal Gear Solid against the TPs, MGS4, RE4 or Kingdom Heart II, man the number of potential classic 1 vs 1 one matches.

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voltch | Posted 9/4/2010 7:30:09 AM | message detail
also obviously post ToC which should be 2-3 years down the line, w/e games contest comes after should in all honesty be a traditional 1 vs 1 no gen divide contest, i mean surely 5 years from now OOT will not be as strong.

i mean every game's dream hope so far was to wait for FFVII to get too old to be strong, we can do the same for OOT right, just wait for it to get old and musty and so dated than most of the voters weren't born when it came out.....though that may already be the case.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2010 9:08:27 AM | message detail
I don't really mind that we don't have LttP or RBY at this point. I mean, if we have an entire contest like Division 128 (and the modern game divisions were the best ones in the last Games Contest, too), then this one will be a blast, too. Fewer blowouts, more competitiveness, etc.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/4/2010 12:00:21 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #229
I don't really mind that we don't have LttP or RBY at this point. I mean, if we have an entire contest like Division 128 (and the modern game divisions were the best ones in the last Games Contest, too), then this one will be a blast, too. Fewer blowouts, more competitiveness, etc.


Of course, we're going to end up with a lot of fodder, too. Especially if we have a 128-game bracket.

But the top tier games will be pretty close to each other, and we don't have a lock to win for once (we've got three possible winners, the most in awhile), so it should be a great contest.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/4/2010 12:08:38 PM | message detail
I'm honestly willing to say we've got like five or six. Anything outside FFX/Smash is a dark horse, but I'm not willing to write off games like GSC or TP completely.
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Big Bob | Posted 9/4/2010 12:11:05 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 4 comes out of nowhere and wins the contest.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/4/2010 12:13:19 PM | message detail
That would be my third dark horse. =)

I think it's possible, too, especially if it fights to the final and ends up against a game some people were disappointed with, like TP or Brawl.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 9/4/2010 3:36:08 PM | message detail
Got to agree with everyone else here. SB's doing this because he knows it'll be fun (based on Div 128 and the bottom quarter of the last Games bracket), but also because it gives him the perfect justification for a ToC of Ocarina, FF7, and (he thinks) FFX for the 2012 Game Contest.

And he's right, that WILL be awesome!

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charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2010 3:50:03 PM | message detail
And if he does it where the winner of this contest meets the winner of the next contest we still get an unpredictable match even if the winner isn't LttP/RBY/SMW/SM64
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/4/2010 4:53:06 PM | message detail
It feels wrong to put the winner of this contest in a ToC, as it probably won't be #3 like Sephiroth was and certainly won't be far and away above the rest of the field like Sephiroth was. But bracket-wise, it should work very well.
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voltch | Posted 9/4/2010 7:43:52 PM | message detail
so let's start betting on what kind of super weak fodder we'll be seeing.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/4/2010 7:49:25 PM | message detail
Comet Crash has potential to be the weakest entrant ever based on its performance in the GOTY polls. It's possible Bacon will take it for a joke though.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2010 7:50:08 PM | message detail
Whatever sports games and Japanese only games manage to get in will make up the bottom part of the stats.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/4/2010 7:51:31 PM | message detail
Right, it seems Board 8 wants to get Umineko in the contest, so.........that should be really weak.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2010 7:51:50 PM | message detail
Mother 3, as well.
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voltch | Posted 9/4/2010 7:53:05 PM | message detail
Umineko vs Melee, not even the board vote will help that "game".
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/4/2010 10:49:25 PM | message detail
Comet Crash has potential to be the weakest entrant ever based on its performance in the GOTY polls. It's possible Bacon will take it for a joke though.


The game doesn't have a funny name and I don't think the game's ratings are low enough to be denied a spot in the contest if it got enough nominations. Game ratings:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/959209-comet-crash

But yeah, Comet Crash should be weak, based on these polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3718
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3723
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/5/2010 2:25:36 AM | message detail
Based on things that could actually get in, I'd take Umineko to be not just the weakest entrant in the contest, but if it gets in it could contend for weakest entrant ever, even with massive blowouts being harder than ever to come by.
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voltch | Posted 9/5/2010 2:58:32 AM | message detail
umineko to get less votes than tanner if he makes it in?

i love the visual novel, but no way am i voting for a music book with pretty pictures in a games contest.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 9/5/2010 3:00:33 AM | message detail
I would expect Umineko to get at least four times as many votes due to not being its opponent than for people who actually like it. And I think I'm being generous to Umineko.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/5/2010 5:14:41 AM | message detail
People are nominating Comet Crash?

I'm in on that one!
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LOLContests | Posted 9/5/2010 10:25:25 AM | message detail
Umineko would be weak, but it wouldn't be Tanner-esque. If nothing else, it would be guaranteed to get some sort of anime-ish picture, and probably get votes based on that.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 9/5/2010 10:28:02 AM | message detail

From: LOLContests | #249
Umineko would be weak, but it wouldn't be Tanner-esque. If nothing else, it would be guaranteed to get some sort of anime-ish picture, and probably get votes based on that.


haha, no.

It'd be lucky to break 5% on Pac-Man.
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