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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 905
red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2010 2:54:26 PM | message detail |
Well,
I just tried to think of characters I like from games I don't like, and
can't really think of very many, so I suppose that's true. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/10/2010 3:06:00 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #451 This gets me thinking, are there any characters with decent strength from games that aren't strong here? I'm not talking characters who have strong series but weak individual games like Mega Man or Kirby, and obviously joke characters don't count. Of course, that criteria is still pretty vague and subjective, but hey, we still got time to kill. --- Wylvane Shadow_Ryoko is a horrible user. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 3:06:41 PM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #452 The Kirby series isn't strong, so yeah, you just named one. --- http://img.imgcake.com/ultigardenpngba.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 3:07:25 PM | message detail |
I'm not talking characters who have strong series but weak individual games like Mega Man or Kirby I'm not so sure about Kirby... --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 3:08:03 PM | message detail |
And depending on your definition of strong, Dante, Kratos, and Ryu Hayabusa potentially apply. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
LOLContests | Posted 9/10/2010 5:21:37 PM | message detail |
Kirby
gets some of his strength from Smash Brothers, which he is less popular
than. And Dante, Ryu H., and Kratos are all more popular than their
games because of character design, one of the exceptions to games being
stronger than characters. And Kratos isn't that much stronger than his
game anyway. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/10/2010 5:32:48 PM | message detail |
I'm
willing to bet more than half of Kirby's strength comes from Smash, and
most of the rest comes from design. You never see anyone talking about
Kirby's games. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "I am mentally incapable of reading because I have ADD." -Albion |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 7:42:20 PM | message detail |
Oh, no doubt. Kirby would be lucky to be able to beat Master Chief without Smash. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 8:09:39 PM | message detail |
I'd also argue that Samus wouldn't be noble nine material if it wasn't for Smash. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/10/2010 9:24:33 PM | message detail |
Samus is another solid example, considering how underwhelming her games are here and how mediocre overall her series is. --- Wylvane Highwind89 is a horrible user. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/10/2010 9:24:54 PM | message detail |
In terms of GameFAQs strength, not quality-wise, of course. --- Wylvane Chrono1219 is a horrible user. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 9:25:23 PM | message detail |
Metroid overall isn't that weak of a series. It did manage to beat Pokemon, after all! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 9:25:56 PM | message detail |
Although it's funny how I say that now when we thought struggling with Pokemon was bad in 2006! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 9:30:25 PM | message detail |
Metroid's performance on Pokemon was bad. By 2k6 Pokemon was more neutral than loved. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 9:31:28 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #464 How do we even know this? Nidoran F? --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 9:35:30 PM | message detail |
You don't need a contest to know that Pokemon wasn't hated by 2k6 I even considered Pokemon > Metroid for a while. Though some people were all hyped about Star Ocean > Pokemon. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 9:36:44 PM | message detail |
I
mean, how do we know that Pokemon was more neutral than loved in 2006?
The only Pokemon matches we saw that year were Star Ocean, Metroid, and
Samus/Nidoran F. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 9:39:30 PM | message detail |
Well I mostly mean compare to today Pokemon wasn't as loved. Pokemon's performance was around where it should be in terms of overall series IMO. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 9:40:42 PM | message detail |
I dunno. It just seems strange that Pokemon would have a delayed Nintendo Boost by like 2 years. Let's say Metroid/Pokemon was being run tomorrow: Percentages? --- Support Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for Character Battle IX! http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9342/banner3seifer.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 9:42:20 PM | message detail |
It's kind of hard since we don't really know how strong Metroid is. I'll go with 57-60% --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 9:43:39 PM | message detail |
I dunno. It just seems strange that Pokemon would have a delayed Nintendo Boost by like 2 years. Although it is quite clear that Pokemon has been going up in stock compare to other Nintendo series. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 9:44:35 PM | message detail |
It's hard to say. Has Pikachu really gotten that much stronger the last three years? --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about PW/Jecht |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 9:48:49 PM | message detail |
Just take a look at the site 3 years ago and compare it to now, Pokemon isn't just a board a thing. As for Pikachu Leon got 58% on him in 2k7, today I'm sure most people would take him to beat Leon or at least expect a nail biter match. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 9:49:19 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #473 Depends on whether it's the sprite round or not. --- Support Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for Character Battle IX! http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9342/banner3seifer.jpg |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/10/2010 9:51:24 PM | message detail |
Well
I've always liked Samus most for her character design over her games
(only two can really be considered "classics". I thought Other M could
remedy this but apparently not), and after that I'm not the biggest fan
of the Smash series (they're certainly great games but come on, best
games ever? Not even close), so it makes sense for her to be in the
Dante/Kratos/Hayabusa mold since I'd imagine that to be the case here. Though I'm playing Super Metroid now and it's actually rather saddening that this thing has gotten SFF crushed by Link to the Past twice (LttP is still the better game, but not nearly by that much!). |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2010 9:53:29 PM | message detail |
Don't think the Pokemon boost has anything to do with the Nintendo Boost in 2005. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 9:53:56 PM | message detail |
I don't think it matters, besides his degree of win. Sprite Pikachu is scary, after some comparisons with other Solid **** matches Sprite Pikachu is about as strong as Squall. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 9:56:15 PM | message detail |
The sprite round definitely matters. I'd take Leon to win pretty comfortably with a normal match pic. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2010 9:56:51 PM | message detail |
Sprite Pikachu is scary, after some comparisons with other Solid **** matches Sprite Pikachu is about as strong as Squall. Not quite that strong I think, but pretty strong nonetheless. Pikachu did about 2% better than Yoshi did in 2006, against a stronger Snake. If 2010 Snake puts up 53% on 2006 Snake, that gives sprite round Pikachu about 55% on Yoshi, or 47% on Squall using Squall/Yoshi 2008. Sprite Pikachu got 46% on Sprite Crono in 2008, so that lines up pretty well! --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 10:00:27 PM | message detail |
The sprite round definitely matters. I'd take Leon to win pretty comfortably with a normal match pic. I'd feel you'd be in the minority then. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/10/2010 10:02:26 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #480 Probably. But that wouldn't be the first time I'd take easy points! Oh hey, here's a relatively good comparison: Commander Shepard vs. Vault Boy, who wins and by how much? --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2010 10:09:44 PM | message detail |
Probably Shepard back then. By next contest I'm not sure, if Mass Effect 2 flops in the GotY then probably not. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/11/2010 5:18:47 AM | message detail |
Not to mention New Vegas coming out soon should help Vault Boy out a bit. Even with that, I'd probably still pick Shepard since he's a fleshed-out character. Vault Boy win wouldn't be too surprising though since Fallout 3's the #3 game for this gen (though MW2 and/or FF13 may change that). --- Wylvane Ainoxi is a horrible user. |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2010 10:32:42 AM | message detail |
Time to work on 2008 4-Way Character Battle Votal-Stats! --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
Calintares | Posted 9/11/2010 12:28:26 PM | message detail |
What's
Other M going to do for Samus? On one hand you have the fact that it's
a high-profile game for her. But on the other hand I have seen a lot of
backlash against it, and from what I've seen of it derails her
character severely. Speaking of which, do we know of any examples of characters declining in strength due to getting more exposure? --- Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. |
red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2010 12:43:20 PM | message detail |
Not
that I know of- generally the worst that happens is nothing. Samus is
already really strong, so it probably gives her a very small boost if
anything. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2010 9:18:25 PM | message detail |
If you go from liking something to not then you probably weren't a big fan at the start. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
vcharon | Posted 9/11/2010 9:23:49 PM | message detail |
I
don't imagine Other M will have much of an effect. I don't truly
believe a new game can truly weaken a character, though I agree some
high profile games help less than others do. Wind Waker, etc. --- :> |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2010 9:24:07 PM | message detail |
From: Calintares | #125 Shadow the Hedgehog...? --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
vcharon | Posted 9/11/2010 9:25:02 PM | message detail |
I would go as far as saying Sonic himself suffers from that as well. --- :> |
WildCherryRusty | Posted 9/11/2010 9:25:44 PM | message detail |
that entire series as they keep making games --- If I was ever allowed to ask one small favor from you, it would be for you to forget the night ahead. RUSTY ~ your messiah |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2010 9:27:29 PM | message detail |
Yeah, but Shadow's the most obvious example. Shadow/Wario: Percentages? --- Support Squirtle (Pokemon R/B/Y) for Character Battle IX! http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8463/banner2squirtle.jpg |
vcharon | Posted 9/11/2010 9:27:42 PM | message detail |
What I said applies in normal circumstances, by the way. Sega is anything but normal. --- :> |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2010 9:27:59 PM | message detail |
I'd
rather blame it on the new Sonic games not keeping up with the older
games so as older gamers retire Sonic ends up getting weaker. Shadow 2k3 was a fluke and while he has gotten weaker I wouldn't blame it on his games. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2010 9:29:22 PM | message detail |
Shadow/Wario: Percentages? Shadow with 55% --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2010 9:29:49 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #134 I dunno. Sonic's dropoff since 2006 is just so sharp that I can't simply say "Old Sonic fans aren't coming here anymore." I mean, CT's 15 years old, and they never had a dropoff that sharp. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about PW/Jecht |
vcharon | Posted 9/11/2010 9:32:03 PM | message detail |
You're
being too kind, the new games are just bad and sometimes almost
laughable. Sonic has gone from competing with Mega Man over the 6th
strongest character spot to being roasted by Auron in a 4-way and in
very serious danger of losing to any number of Square near-elites. --- :> |
charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2010 9:32:59 PM | message detail |
I
dunno. Sonic's dropoff since 2006 is just so sharp that I can't simply
say "Old Sonic fans aren't coming here anymore." I mean, CT's 15 years
old, and they never had a dropoff that sharp. Considering Crono/Sonic would still be a close match, based on 2k10 for Sonic I disagree with the second part. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2010 9:33:29 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #138 Not sure I agree with that! --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
vcharon | Posted 9/11/2010 9:33:40 PM | message detail |
Dark Link. --- :> |
