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1. Link
2. Cloud Strife
3. Solid Snake
4. Sephiroth
5. Mario
6. Samus Aran
7. Mega Man
8. Vincent Valentine
9. Squall Leonhart
10. Crono
11. Auron
12. Charizard
13. Sonic the Hedgehog
14. Tifa Lockhart
15. Luigi
16. Yoshi
17. Bowser
18. Ganondorf
19. Big Boss
20. Zack Fair
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finally some official art of kerrigan that isn't crap:

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you're joking right
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From: ZenOfThunder | Posted: 8/19/2010 6:30:26 PM | #402
finally some official art of kerrigan that isn't crap:

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holy christ it's whoopi goldberg if you ripped her skin off

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That statue's like two or three years old.

And I think it's a bit too thin to be Whoopi.

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compare that to the original vincent vs kerrigan pic

improvement!
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From: ZenOfThunder | #406
compare that to the original vincent vs kerrigan pic

improvement!

I think I'd vote for anything over that Kerrigan pic you posted.
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also check out dat ass

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I don't know man.

http://search.tvnz.co.nz/photogallery/images/gallery/entertainment/08_whoopi_goldberg_p.jpg

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I love the discussions in these topics during the off season

"hey man you ever try coconut M&Ms? good ****"

"dude check out kerrigan's ass"
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I see everybody placed Crono and most added Yoshi somewhere, but nobody's got Missingno in the mix? That thing's looked great in every match AND it killed in the vote-ins before rallying became an issue. Between that and the Pokemon-dominance in recent years, it's hard to say it doesn't look fairly legitimate at this time, joke or not.
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I'd need to see Missingno in action again before I could give it that kind of credit. It's like putting L-Block at #1 on this list if this were right after 2007.
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I think Missingno's done enough to place in the top twenty pretty legitimately. Take the vote-ins where nothing fishy was in the air yet...only MMX had a higher percentage in any of the vote-ins than Missingno, and that was with two other Pokemon and Toad in its poll. It got 65+% on Toad despite said Pokemon, too. While we don't know where Toad's at, that's still no joke; Bowser was just shy of 74% on Toad in 2007 and he should have SFF'd Toad worse...

...that can line up pretty well with getting 51.5% on Yoshi in a match that had minimal/no rallying, and those are just SFF-matches. We'd need to see more matches against non-Nintendo characters to see how legit barely beating Crono and breaking 47% on Sephiroth are, but until then it's proven within the Nintendo-fanbase twice that it can hang well and those SFF-matches look like his low-range for strength as opposed to his other matches putting him in the Noble Nine. This is one-on-one too, not four-ways, so I don't know how fair it is comparing it to L-Block's run!
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Please don't use the vote-ins as proof of anything. It's a 12-way poll. I remember doing x-stats based off of the vote-ins, and you end up with a lot of nonsensical results.

Joke characters always have to have a second run before you establish them as legit.
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Plus, I mean, we just saw Pokemon beat Super Mario here and it was one of three different Pokemon we saw do very well last year. It wasn't some sole example of Pokemon looking great in the past year!
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Again, understood, but Missingno is still on a wait-and-see policy from me.
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Missingno is more worthy of a place in the Top 20 than Yoshi.
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I think we're differing on this because I feel like it standing up well in two different (and tough) SFF-scenarios covers the joke-issue without having to wait for next year whereas you think the second year is mandatory for its legitimacy's sake. I don't think we've ever really seen a joke in an SFF'ing position before (besides L-Block > The Dog), so it's hard to say who's right here. Whatever though, we'll find out in due time as long as Missingno gets into another contest.
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I'm not against giving Missingno top 20 status if it can do it again. I just don't want to use a 12-way poll and a Nintendo series poll as evidence that what happened was legit.
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Missingno is worthy of a top 10 place from what he showed us last contest, but I have no idea where to put him. I actually agree with the idea that he didn't really change strength between rounds all that much, because a lot of it is due to day/night effects and rallying).

Take away 2700 votes from Missingno for rallying (based on my conservative estimate of the number of rallied votes in that match), and Crono wins with a bit less than 51.5%. Tack on 3% (big, but this is one of the worst day votes against one of the best, and Missingno probably has an advantage from the 1st 12 hours compared to the 2nd 12 hours irrespective of the time of day as well) for making it a 24-hour match, and we get 54.5%. Yoshi probably does a bit better with a 24-hour match, so Crono gets 55% or so on Yoshi from that comparison, which is a bit low but not hugely so.

It's hard to get Crono below 46% on Sephiroth through those kinds of explanations, but then 46% on Seph is like 44% on Snake, which looks a lot more reasonable.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

I mean, for one thing, it's pretty clear that Missingno performed at a different level in every match. Sephiroth, Crono, and Yoshi are all on different levels. Yoshi wouldn't get that close to Crono, regardless of what you think of the Missingno match. I'm pretty confident in that.
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I'm not so sure about that. Sephiroth looked really bad that year.

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Sephiroth looked fine against Marth. The Vincent and Tifa matches...Eh, there's no telling what to make of that. The Snake match was bad, sure, but then Snake went and got 48% on Cloud in a 24-hour match. Sephy's still at 42% on Link, which is as low as he's been in a while, but not really bad.
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The biggest reason why I didn't put Missingno on my list is there's a good possibility that Missingno just isn't on par with his 2010 form next year.

And Clinkeroth looked horrible this year, yes.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

And the thing with people giving Yoshi so much credit is that he looked like garbage in 2008 against Squall and Sora.

I mean, I'm fine with people saying Squall beats Crono easily if you guys are, but...
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Sephiroth looked fine against Marth. The Vincent and Tifa matches...Eh, there's no telling what to make of that. The Snake match was bad, sure, but then Snake went and got 48% on Cloud in a 24-hour match. Sephy's still at 42% on Link, which is as low as he's been in a while, but not really bad.

The Tifa match was bad, as was the Snake match, and they are the most meaningful matches as far as strength judgment is concerned. Vincent tells us very little, and Marth isn't a great character to extrapolate through because we're not that confident in where he stands (also, while I don't remember for sure, I think Sephiroth only looked fine against Marth because Link and Cloud were having such a hard time blowing people out- it turns out that Clinkeroth couldn't get it done against strong characters either).

42% on Link is bad but doesn't look horrible until you realize that this is the weakest Link since 2003. The Legend of Zelda had a horrible year, with Ganon, Zelda, and Link falling apart.
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I don't take anything from the Tifa match because I honestly think Sephiroth was getting some Missingno backlash in that match, and maybe against Snake, too, though to a lesser extent.

I mean, I have no basis for believing it, of course, but it makes sense to me, at least.
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If Missingno. is related to L-Block at all, it will enter a downward spiral in support if it even makes it into the next contest. I'm sticking with the joke degradation theory.
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Are we sure Missingno is getting joke votes and not nostalgia votes? I run a Facebook page for a Pokemon and when I asked who had used Missingno's glitch everyone was like "omg yes that was awesome."

If he is a joke, he's less of one than L-Block is.
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It's just the whole performing at three different levels in three different matches that makes me think that.

But again, I may be wrong. I'll probably chicken out and pick Missingno in a debatable match all the same.
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Considering it's a block of pixels in the shape of a backwards L, yes I am fairly confident much of Missingno.'s support is joke strength. He's no less of a joke than L-Block, and L-Block would undoubtedly be less of a "joke" because it's more known and therefore should have more nostalgia value.
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Also, how exactly did Link look bad? He stomped Mario and Sonic worse than he has before. I'm not going to operate under some theory Link is weakened, but his SFF powers are now greater. It makes very little sense to me.
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From: vcharon | #433
I'm not going to operate under some theory Link is weakened, but his SFF powers are now greater.

Well, there's the Luigi match that seems to indicate otherwise.
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Link might have lost the 5% against weaker guys that made him a wonder to behold in early rounds, but the contenders still have the same little-to-no chance of dethroning him that they did before.
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From: PartOfYourWorld | #435
Link might have lost the 5% against weaker guys that made him a wonder to behold in early rounds, but the contenders still have the same little-to-no chance of dethroning him that they did before.

Pretty much this. Snake may be able to get 43% on Link now, but he still doesn't have a chance of beating him, not now, not ever.
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And honestly, that makes Link more boring imo. If he's going to be unchallenged to title after title (save for joke entrants and guys like Vader or Batman), he may as well be the guy who gets 81% on Yoshi.
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Let's look at Link 2010, round by round:

2010:

1. 79.81% on Thrall - He would have gotten to 81% perhaps in a 24-hour match, but that's still horrible for Link.
2. 71.79% on Alucard - Another disappointing performance.
3. 67.28% on Mega Man X - This is about the same as Link got on Mega Man in 2004, in MM's strongest year since 2002. Plus, MM is probably somewhat stronger than X.
4. 71.13% on Luigi - This is just horrid compared with Link's 81% on Yoshi in 2004.
5. 70.23% on Sonic - This looks good, but only because Link's first 4 rounds were so bad. I called for 70% before the contest here- Cloud got 66% back in 2003, Sonic is weaker now than then, Link is supposed to be stronger than Cloud, and Link SFF'd Sonic. So I was happy with this 70%, but it's only impressive relative to how badly the first 4 rounds went- and it's SFF.
6. 64.57% on Mario - This is actually worse than Link did on Mario in 2008. I have no idea why so many people were predicting Mario to break 40% before the match and then were surprised when Link did as well as he usually does on Mario.
7. 53.54% on Cloud - Notably, Link failed to hand Cloud his worst defeat ever, despite FFVII having a very bad year.

Now then, let's look at what Link used to be capable of doing:

2004

1. 88% on CATS
2. 88% on Ganondorf
3. 81% on Yoshi
4. 63% on Crono
5. 67% on Mega Man
6. 52% on Cloud (back when Cloud was stronger)
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I'm not going to operate under some theory Link is weakened, but his SFF powers are now greater.

Yes, this is true, it does not make sense for someone to get weaker and become stronger in SFF. Link got weaker, and his SFF powers probably weakened too, or at best stayed the same. Link has never faced Sonic before, so there's nothing to compare with, and against Mario he actually put up his 3rd worst result out of 7 matches. The times he did worse were 2002 (another age of the contest.....) and 2007, a pretty strong year for Mario.
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I think it's important to look at the contest as a whole. All the all stars performed worse than they had in previous years. I don't think it's a weakening trend for the characters, just a change in what's considered a blowout. It'd be different if Link had put up these numbers but any of the character Noble 9 looked the same. Everyone looked weaker. I think it's just a change in the contest, nothing more really.
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Not everyone- Snake and Samus looked great.
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Sonic, Mario and Mega Man also looked pretty good.
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Well, until they hit their respective brick walls anyway. Sonic faced a couple of overrated characters and ended up looking better than some people thought. Mario didn't really have a chance to impress other than that match with Big Boss (which was impressive nonetheless), and he looked pretty bad against the 'Zard, outside factors notwithstanding. Mega Man looked pretty good, admittedly, but he faced two FFVII characters we didn't have a good read on and sprite Hayabusa.
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Mega Man did- don't think Sonic and Mario looked so great. They had good matches against Ganondorf and Mega Man respecitvely, but had special reasons to overperform (Bacondorf and SFF). Other than that, they looked about the same as 2008 or a little higher.
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And honestly, nobody would have ever given Kirby a shot at beating Sonic if 2008 hadn't happened.
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Sonic looked decent against Kirby too. Mario also put repectable numbers against Big Boss.

No reason to believe that the noble nine has dropped in strength outside of Link/Cloud/Sephiroth.
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Eh, Big Boss is another one of those characters we didn't have a solid read on. I mean, it was impressive, certainly, at least to me, because I thought Big Boss could break 40% there, but it's impressive relative to expectations.
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And Sonic/Kirby only looks impressive in light of 2008. Kirby hasn't really looked that good before or since (Well, other than the Bowser match, I guess).
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And with Clinkeroth- if you "underperform" against everyone, you're just weaker than before. If you only do worse against some characters you can say you underperformed, but if it's against everyone- there's no distinguishing between that and simply being weaker- they are identical, because being weaker means exactly that you'll do worse against everyone than before.
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If you boost Ganondorf a bit you'd get the same percent as what Sonic would have got in 2006.

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