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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2010 9:34:33 PM | message detail
And part of the reason why Morrigan is interesting is because she did so well back in 2002. She could flop, yeah, but she could also not. We know where Chun-Li is.

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EcchiFanboy | Posted 8/12/2010 9:35:28 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #145
If this is the case, why don't we just nominate a character with an appealing physique and a game people care about?


We've already nominated Amy, Midna and Marle, but they proved this wrong.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2010 9:36:11 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #149
2002 is just really really different from now. The first 3 rounds of 2002 are even dramatically different from the latter rounds, just look at how the votals exploded during the contest.


This is a great point, actually. Morrigan did well in the first two rounds before vote totals exploded and a whole new wave of people came to the site.

You just can't take 2002 as indicative of anything. It's a fluke contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2010 9:36:45 PM | message detail

From: EcchiFanboy | #152
We've already nominated Amy, Midna and Marle, but they proved this wrong.


I'm going to pretend that you didn't even mention those first two, but Marle's ugly and flat.

Forget her.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/12/2010 9:37:44 PM | message detail
Nominate Lucca! Unfortunately she'd probably be fodder, but......

Remember folks to nominate Crono to give him a better seed.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/12/2010 9:38:10 PM | message detail
She could flop, yeah, but she could also not.

Unless you consider being regular fodder as not flopping then yeah she's going to flop.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2010 9:39:09 PM | message detail
Glad to know someone's taken up vcharon's torch.

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EcchiFanboy | Posted 8/12/2010 9:39:46 PM | message detail
Yeah, I agree Marle isn't the best. If we want a hot CT girl, we gotta pick Crono's mom. I don't think anyone can deny she's the hottest and bustiest girl from CT.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2010 9:40:56 PM | message detail
Morrigan is very, very likely to do very, very badly though. Her odds of impressing and winning a match are low without a lucky draw.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/12/2010 9:43:15 PM | message detail
Is it weird that I enjoy Epona yet never really got into Malon? Saria could do okay maybe though, and Great Deku Tree would be the best joke-character perhaps ever.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2010 9:43:18 PM | message detail
And I disagree. The 'votals exploded after round 3' is a fair point, but I think there's enough room for her past performances + MVC3 hype for her to still do decently.

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charmander6000 | Posted 8/12/2010 9:43:46 PM | message detail
Glad to know someone's taken up vcharon's torch.

It's like arguing that a new character could be stronger than Link, technically it's true, but it won't happen.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/12/2010 9:43:55 PM | message detail
As one of Morrigan's biggest supporters, the only reason was boobs. Boobs and her pretty face. And the fact that M. Bison and Chun-Li are ****ing pointless and boring additions we just saw a few years ago (I say this as a SF fan). Diablo was easily the most interesting entrant objectively. We saw only last year that Diablo II is Blizzard's most popular game here, and by the time a contest does get rolling, Diablo may well have some D3 hype on his side. MvC3 might help Morrigan out some, but it was never gonna match D3 hype and the potential for rallies.

Anyway, on the much more emotionally charged debate: I don't even expect Epona to be strong. The strength gap between the top guy and next best is wider in the Zelda series than in practically every other. The strength gap between Link and Zelda/Ganon is huge. It's not that big with Mario/Luigi, Cloud/Seph/Tifa, or Mega Man/Zero. If you extrapolate that strength pattern a bit, then every other Zelda character not named Sheik (and thanks for that one, Bacon) may end up as pure fodder. But at least one of them should have gotten in the NRT this year because we now finally realize how huge Zelda and OoT is around here. When the game is that ****ing strong, there exists the chance that some of its characters - even the ones that make glue - are strong. Ocarina stomps everything. Give it FFVII now with brackets and 3DS hype on its side, and it may match FFVII's percentage in 2004. It is the clear top dog on GameFAQs, and it deserves one original entrant, in one bracket, for one year.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2010 9:45:32 PM | message detail
I have no idea why Bison beat Diablo.

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red sox 777 | Posted 8/12/2010 9:45:52 PM | message detail
Strength wise it probably goes:

Link
(Sheik!)
Ganondorf
Zelda
Epona
Great Deku Tree
Saria
Malon
Navi
Others
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2010 9:46:24 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #161
but I think there's enough room for her past performances


See, I just can't take anything from 2002 seriously at this point. It's just been too long. How many voters are still here from then?

I personally think Aya Brea's the hottest video game character around, but I'm not going to think she can still go 50/50 with DK, even with the 3rd Birthday on the horizon.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2010 9:47:00 PM | message detail
Well...it is DK. He'd find a way.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2010 9:48:01 PM | message detail
And yeah, I'd be all for Sheik if she was eligible. There's no question about that.
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EcchiFanboy | Posted 8/12/2010 9:48:26 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #165
Strength wise it probably goes:

Link
(Sheik!)
Ganondorf
Zelda
Epona
Great Deku Tree
Saria
Malon
Navi
Others


Where would you put the Master Sword or Triforce in there?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/12/2010 9:48:53 PM | message detail
Better example would be the people who used weaker than CATS as an argument against Nathan Drake.

That's coming from a person who had and was sure of The Boss > Nathan Drake.
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FFDragon | Posted 8/12/2010 9:49:05 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 8/13/2010 12:06:33 AM | #090
I think it's kind of funny that Bacon needed 24 hours to scrounge up enough EA series for this poll.


Wasn't yesterday a milestone poll, so he just put this current 'series' on hold for a day?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2010 9:49:50 PM | message detail
I like my idea better!

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/12/2010 9:50:05 PM | message detail
Or Dark Link?

Or a Deku Baba?
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FFDragon | Posted 8/12/2010 9:50:18 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/13/2010 12:48:53 AM | #170
Better example would be the people who used weaker than CATS as an argument against Nathan Drake.


Hey now, this was and still is solid ****ing logic.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/12/2010 9:51:17 PM | message detail
The strength gap between Link and Zelda/Ganon is huge. It's not that big with Mario/Luigi, Cloud/Seph/Tifa, or Mega Man/Zero. If you extrapolate that strength pattern a bit, then every other Zelda character not named Sheik (and thanks for that one, Bacon) may end up as pure fodder.

That's a fair point, but I don't think it extrapolates out that way after Zelda/Ganon because:

1. Link is a more compelling character relative to his game/series than those other top characters.
2. Ganon and Zelda are highly uncompelling characters.
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vcharon | Posted 8/12/2010 9:51:28 PM | message detail
I went ahead with the MK nomination rally. Check it, yo'.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/12/2010 9:55:36 PM | message detail
The Master Sword and Triforce are not characters- they'd be jokes through and through, and would behave with the erraticness of jokes. Actually, they're rather more inanimate than our past jokes, so I'm not sure how the voters would react.

Dark Link has a pretty wide range, and I am actually not interested in seeing him in a contest. If he's at the high end of his range, he beats Noble Niners and I do not want to see that. If he's at the low end of his range, he's a boring character and someone else can take his spot.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/12/2010 9:56:07 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #175
1. Link is a more compelling character relative to his game/series than those other top characters.
2. Ganon and Zelda are highly uncompelling characters.


Both have truth, especially #2. If it wasn't for Sheik and the final boss-fights from LoZ:OoT along with them being fun in SSBM (not so much in SSBB), I wouldn't really care for either of them.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2010 9:57:48 PM | message detail
Ganondorf and Zelda are the two biggest leeches in contest history. They ride Link's cottails a ton.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/12/2010 10:32:04 PM | message detail
Wouldn't Link be the biggest leech? He doesn't really say anything; he's just there for a series that happens to be the most popular on this site.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2010 10:39:14 PM | message detail
Who's a bigger leech? The leech or the leech who follows him?
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/12/2010 10:42:58 PM | message detail
Link's not a leech. He'd be popular in any series, and personally makes the Zelda series a lot more popular I think. Link has always done better against Cloud than OOT has done against FFVII (or Zelda has done against FF).

Link is who everyone (well, not everyone, but the majority on this site) wishes they were. He's the embodiment of a hero.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2010 10:44:00 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #182
Link is who everyone (well, not everyone, but the majority on this site) wishes they were. He's the embodiment of a hero.


Okay, I'm a guy who loves heroes to no end, and I don't find Link all that interesting.

And I love characters like Vyse, for cryin' out loud! It's not like I only like deep heroes!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2010 10:44:14 PM | message detail
And I like Crono a lot, too, so it's not the mute thing.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/12/2010 10:51:48 PM | message detail
I think you could star Link in Chrono Trigger or Crono in most Zelda games and get a pretty good result.
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EcchiFanboy | Posted 8/12/2010 10:52:52 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #182
Link's not a leech. He'd be popular in any series


uhhh no. If Link was the main character of say... Secret of Mana (just a random RPG I thought of), he wouldn't even make the contest. He gets all of his love and support from being the main character of the most popular series on the site. Thats how all mute characters are, since they don't actually do anything to get people to like them outside of being playable in popular games.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/12/2010 10:57:03 PM | message detail
Well, no character would be super strong coming from Secret of Mana. But I'm not sure that any other Noble Niner would do better if forced into a role as a SoM character- in fact my guess is Link or Cloud would probably do the best of them in that situation.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/13/2010 1:36:30 AM | message detail
For no reason at all, I decided to check in which states Madden (ie good ol fashioned Americun pigskin) was most and least popular.

Most: Iowa (19.35% at the time of this post)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4001&region=USXIA

Least: Wyoming (0 votes at the time of this post)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4001&region=USXWY

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Denzokuken | Posted 8/13/2010 1:43:29 AM | message detail
Woo Sims! Let's get Sim in for the next NRT. But seriously, what's with this poll? Why has he left out Medal of Honor, FIFA, NHL among others? Bleh.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/13/2010 2:07:57 AM | message detail
For no reason at all, I decided to check in which states Madden (ie good ol fashioned Americun pigskin) was most and least popular.

But let's wait until this poll ends before deciding to look at all the states again. The percentages can still change quite a bit, especially for the low population states.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/13/2010 6:31:22 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #115
and these days it looks like random pokemon #257 (no, I have no idea which pokemon that is) would not be fodder.


Too bad you didn't say 258, as that would be Mudkip. Still, Blaziken is an evolved starter, and I have trouble seeing any starter as fodder. Well, maybe those ****ty BW starters will be.

Anyway, Morrigan would suck. Still, I find this poll interesting.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3399

Only poll in the last five years where Darkstalkers isn't in a position to get SFFed to **** by Street Fighter, and even then it's close to Strider and only beating series nobody has ever even heard of. Makes me wonder if Ryu could break 90% on Morrigan, or 80% in today's anti-blowout world.

Also, why another FF7 character? Yeah, Saria or Malon or whoever would probably suck, but they could also be decent. They're more untested than FF7 characters, and if all you want is a character with decent strength, we might as well fill half the bracket with Pokemon.

There's no reason to nominate Barret over Bulbasaur is all I'm saying.
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vcharon | Posted 8/13/2010 6:38:30 AM | message detail
There's a very good reason when we already have Squirtle with a spot. That's like saying Yuffie would be a good choice instead of Otacon, but we already have our one FF7 character for the year. No one wants one single game/series to have more than one representative in the NRT. Final Fantasy (as a series) is an exception because the games are totally unrelated to one another, whereas Pokemon isn't.
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Haguile | Posted 8/13/2010 6:38:35 AM | message detail
I actually think that Epona could be stronger than Ganon. Yeah yeah, it's a (very) long shot. But I think that when certain people see Ganon, they go "oh...ganon...yeah he is...ganon." and don't vote for him the way they do for link because he as cool he is, he isn't there for most of the game(normally) and frankly isn't very memorable(although pig ganon...) while Epona is FREAKING EPONA. She would also have a bit of joke support.

...But on the other hand, SHE'S A HORSE. Which could also mean she will bomb hard. But I'd take Epona over a lot of people if she makes it to the next contest.
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vcharon | Posted 8/13/2010 6:41:42 AM | message detail
Ganondorf is a near elite who is indirectly stronger than Zelda herself. Unless you're saying Epona is stronger than Zelda...
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Haguile | Posted 8/13/2010 6:44:43 AM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #191
Too bad you didn't say 258, as that would be Mudkip. Still, Blaziken is an evolved starter, and I have trouble seeing any starter as fodder. Well, maybe those ****ty BW starters will be.

Anyway, Morrigan would suck. Still, I find this poll interesting.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3399

Only poll in the last five years where Darkstalkers isn't in a position to get SFFed to **** by Street Fighter, and even then it's close to Strider and only beating series nobody has ever even heard of. Makes me wonder if Ryu could break 90% on Morrigan, or 80% in today's anti-blowout world.

Also, why another FF7 character? Yeah, Saria or Malon or whoever would probably suck, but they could also be decent. They're more untested than FF7 characters, and if all you want is a character with decent strength, we might as well fill half the bracket with Pokemon.

There's no reason to nominate Barret over Bulbasaur is all I'm saying.


I doubt Smugleaf would be fodder. As for filling the bracket with Pokemon, hey I would be all for it. I'm still for an all pokemon contetst. But I doubt the rest of the board would be up for nominating Pokemons like that.

Also on an unrelated note, anyone thinks BBS will boost Zack a bit?
Haguile | Posted 8/13/2010 6:49:00 AM | message detail

From: vcharon | #194
Ganondorf is a near elite who is indirectly stronger than Zelda herself. Unless you're saying Epona is stronger than Zelda...


I'm half joking, but if we assumed that the reason the gap between Link and Ganon was that Link had more screentime, we could technically claim that Epona could be stronger than Zelda.

...But again, I'm kidding. It's technically possible, but it's a small bombs like theory.

WHICH I WOULD TOTALLY BET ON WHEN MAKING A BRACKET.

But still, I know it's not all that logical or likely.
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vcharon | Posted 8/13/2010 6:52:01 AM | message detail
Dark Link has a lot higher (realistic) ceiling than Epona, so that would be my ultimate choice for another Zelda series representative.
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vcharon | Posted 8/13/2010 6:53:55 AM | message detail
I've already locked away several of my nominations for the next character contest...

-Barret
-Seifer
-Otacon
-Morrigan
-Dark Link
-Epona (via trade)
-A third MK character to be chosen by my rally topic (check it out!)

Almost half already.
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Haguile | Posted 8/13/2010 6:55:29 AM | message detail

From: vcharon | #197
Dark Link has a lot higher (realistic) ceiling than Epona, so that would be my ultimate choice for another Zelda series representative.


I agree that Dark Link is realistically way stronger than Epona, but I am not sure about supporting him. I mean, it's "IT'S A HORSE" vs "IT'S A CLONE" and personally I like horses more than Episode 2. So I'm torn.

Lots of time to think though.
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Haguile | Posted 8/13/2010 6:57:32 AM | message detail
also, I don't mean that as 'clone would be bad for his strength' or anything. I just mean that part of me wants to refuse to nominate him because he would clearly only do well for having Link on his name, and another part of me wants him in because he would be a fun newcomer.
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