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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/10/2010 12:40:32 AM | message detail
It'll be nice if we ever see Zelda NOT win this poll.



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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

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Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.
LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2010 12:41:01 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #001
It'll be nice if we ever see Zelda NOT win this poll.


Tingle would have to take over Link's role before this happens.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/10/2010 5:31:47 AM | message detail
For once I have to agree. The fact that Legend of Zelda is almost doubling Mario is actually a little sickening, moreso than Metroid losing to Smash Bros. and being nearly tripled by Pokemon. The Mario series has 6 games that are all Best Game Ever Material, while the Zelda franchise has like what, 2? With a 3rd just behind?

I mean I liked Twilight Princess more than most people on the board (apparently), but I think it's sickeningly overrated on this site.
Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/10/2010 6:15:52 AM | message detail
Pokemon is winning in Scotland! Oh god, please hold on!


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Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/10/2010 7:14:09 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #002
Tingle would have to take over Link's role before this happens.


If this happens, I will never play another Zelda game ever again.

At least Nintendo has the good sense not to release the bastard's game over here.

Anyway, I don't see anything coming close to Zelda for a long time. 13 isn't enough to propel Final Fantasy, gamers here aren't huge fans of the recent Mario games despite them being some of the best-reviewed games ever (and just as fun as ever), Metal Gear's hit its stride, and I don't think any amount of rallying or bandwagoning could propel Pokemon on top.

Zelda is simply an unstoppable juggernaut, as is Link. The only way we're taking down Link is if we get Darth Vader in this thing, and even then Link may still win out of pure unadulterated fanboyism.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/10/2010 1:36:00 PM | message detail
No, Zelda deserves to be over 50%. In fact, Zelda deserves to be at 100%. There isn't a single legitimate reason to prefer any of these series to Zelda- the only series one can make a valid argument is better than Zelda is Final Fantasy.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2010 1:36:20 PM | message detail
It's hard to unlike Earthbound when I didn't like it to begin with!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2010 1:36:55 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #006
There isn't a single legitimate reason to prefer any of these series to Zelda


Oh come on, red sox, don't go that route. That's not like you.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/10/2010 1:37:58 PM | message detail
It was an attempt at making fun of that ridiculous AoD topic and trying to emulate MWC (in a good way, I like MWC) at the same time.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2010 1:37:58 PM | message detail
Don't hate Epona.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2010 1:38:28 PM | message detail
There is no good way to emulate MWC.
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whatisurnameplz | Posted 8/10/2010 1:45:15 PM | message detail
I think the thing that is more sad than Zelda winning is that Pokemon is actually beating Mario.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2010 1:50:16 PM | message detail
LoZ officially doubling Mario now is the sad part of this poll. Pokemon beating it too doesn't help.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/10/2010 2:23:27 PM | message detail
I like MWC

This explains so much.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/10/2010 7:04:34 PM | message detail
From: PartOfYourWorld | #460
But what caused it? You'd think the last 2-3 years were Smash time given Brawl's level of hype. I know Diamond/Pearl sold a lot, but they stunk up the joint in the contest. Outside of a relatively sudden site-wide surge of Pokemon acceptance (I believe this was Turtle's theory), it doesn't make sense.


Exactly. I've been calling this since 2007 (though I never thought it would get this bad.

"Hating" Pokemon to the point of anti-voting is something that you'd expect 14-15 year olds to do, at the age where kids are trying their hardest to act more "mature". Once those kids hit 19-20, retro things from their childhood became awesome again. 2002-2006 was just a period where the majority of the site was in that awkward rebellious phase (and I would argue 2006 is about when it started turning around)
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/10/2010 7:15:32 PM | message detail
And because I like it:

Mario/Cloud - Barring a big announcement for the FF7 crew, I would take Mario over Cloud next contest hands down
Samus/Sephiroth - Ditto for this match
Pikachu/Fox - Pikachu easily. At least 60-40
Bowser/Yoshi - Give me Yoshi here. Galaxy 2 was his first real role in a main Mario game since.... World? That doesn't seem right....
Sora/Aerith - Ugh, give me Sora in a squeaker barring KH3 coming, in which case Sora with 58% or so.
Mario/Sephiroth - Mario easily
Knuckles/Yuna - Yuna, unless you think Cecil would give Yuna a run for her money
Luigi/Yoshi - I'm going to go with Luigi. He's looked damn good the last couple of contests
Frog/Liquid Snake - Frog barring Metal Gear Solid 5
Frog/Master Chief - Frog barring a Halo game actually starring the Chief
Knuckles/Kefka - Kefka, there's no way Kefka doesn't pummel Cecil
Riku/Frog - Frog barring KH3
Auron/Big Boss - Specifically, how close would Big Boss get this time? - Auron 60-40. I still think Big Boss was riding MGS4 and his side games to those impressive showings
Auron/Ganondorf - Auron, he's pretty clearly the number 3 non-NNer behind Vinny/Squall (Tifa is arguable)
Bowser/Ryu - Ryu, he looked damn good last year, and the continued success of SF4 can only help him
Master Chief/DK - MC, he hasn't fallen THAT far yet
Crono/Vincent - Crono in a squeaker. I still think Link was hurting him in those 4 way matches
Vincent/Squall - Squall, he's looked better than Vincent every year since their match in 2005.
Sonic/Mega Man - Mega Man with 55%, unless Sonic 4 manages to be decent and sell well (LOL)
Mega Man/Crono - Mega Man with about 53%, he's clearly above Cronic at this point
Ocelot/Pac-Man - I took Pac-Man the first time, and I'll take him again
Mario/Snake - Mario, Snake has already peaked. He has nowhere to go but down now.
Peach/Jill - Hmmmm, give me Jill in a squeaker
Jill/Hayabusa - Hayabusa with about 52%
Yoshi/Dante - Dante, for some reason I have a feeling that the upper non-NN tier is completely filled with Capcom and Square characters these days, barring possibly Luigi
Kratos/Ryu - Assuming SF Ryu, Ryu by far. Assuming Hayabusa Ryu, give me Kratos
Sonic/Vincent - Vincent in a close, but not contested match
Master Chief/Sub-Zero - Sub Zero. Chief looked like ass last year
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/10/2010 9:01:05 PM | message detail
How many Nintendo series would you take over God of War?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/10/2010 9:02:25 PM | message detail
Hmm, there might not even be a "What do you think about polls on web sites?" poll tomorrow for poll 4000 or a similar poll to that one. Tomorrow might end up being the Microsoft poll.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2010 9:02:31 PM | message detail
As many as I could.
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vcharon | Posted 8/10/2010 9:03:16 PM | message detail
You badly overestimate Mario.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2010 9:03:45 PM | message detail
It's BT.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/10/2010 9:07:38 PM | message detail
Turtle, nice sig!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/10/2010 9:11:55 PM | message detail
Pfft, you'll eat those words when Mario doubles Cloud next year!
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vcharon | Posted 8/10/2010 9:12:48 PM | message detail
Cloud won't make it out of the first round anyway, duh.
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transience | Posted 8/10/2010 9:22:17 PM | message detail
if you set God of War as being equal to DMC, you can see how bad this poll is compared to the Capcom one. damn.
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vcharon | Posted 8/10/2010 9:23:59 PM | message detail
So... MS poll next?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2010 9:24:22 PM | message detail
...What would be in the Microsoft poll?
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transience | Posted 8/10/2010 9:24:53 PM | message detail
Halo and Fable, basically. don't think they count Gears as a true Microsoft title.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2010 9:26:31 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #018
Hmm, there might not even be a "What do you think about polls on web sites?" poll tomorrow for poll 4000 or a similar poll to that one. Tomorrow might end up being the Microsoft poll.


What all series does Microsoft have, anyway?


And again, an Activision Blizzard poll would be grand:

Call of Duty
Crash Bandicoot
Diablo
Guitar Hero
James Bond
Spyro the Dragon
Starcraft
Tony Hawk
Warcraft

I don't know if there's a clear favorite, nor do I think anybody gets too badly beaten...and it's pretty varied with well-known series to boot.
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transience | Posted 8/10/2010 9:27:16 PM | message detail
the Blizzard overlap probably gives COD the win. Starcraft could pull it out though.

I'd like to see a Blizzard one with just the three options.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/10/2010 9:27:50 PM | message detail
Never finished doing this, so here's my predictions:

Mario/Cloud - Cloud wins 56-44.
Samus/Sephiroth - Samus, 50-50.
Pikachu/Fox - Pikachu 55-45.
Bowser/Yoshi - Bowser 56-44 like before, but I have no clue what happens here.
Sora/Aerith - ......Aeris, 50-50. She got 43% on Auron, while Sora looked really bad last contest. Counting on Aeris still getting some (r)SFF here.
Mario/Sephiroth - Sephiroth 52-48
Knuckles/Yuna - .....Knuckles, 51-49. This may seem strange- my reasoning is that Cloud/Sonic would go about the same as 2003 (Cloud probably gets a little less, actually), so Knuckles can still win this rematch.
Luigi/Yoshi - Yoshi, 54-46, just because that happened last time.
Frog/Liquid Snake - Liquid Snake, 55-45. MGS and CT have come a long way since 2004- that was CT's arguably best year, and MGS's worst.
Frog/Master Chief - Frog, 50-50, aw yeah.
Knuckles/Kefka - Kefka, 52-48, this feels so strange.
Riku/Frog - Frog, 50-50
Auron/Big Boss - Auron, 57-43
Auron/Ganondorf - Auron, 53-47
Bowser/Ryu - Bowser, 53-47
Master Chief/DK - MC, 50-50
Crono/Vincent - Crono, 52-48
Vincent/Squall - Squall, 50-50
Sonic/Mega Man - Mega Man, 56-44
Mega Man/Crono - Mega Man, 51-49
Ocelot/Pac-Man - Ocelot, 53-47
Mario/Snake - Snake, 54-46
Peach/Jill - Jill, 58-42
Jill/Hayabusa - Jill, 53-47
Yoshi/Dante - Dante, 51-49
Kratos/Ryu - Ryu 51-49
Sonic/Vincent - Vincent 53-47
Master Chief/Sub-Zero - Sub Zero, 55-45
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2010 9:29:01 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2804

Talk among yourselves.
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EcchiFanboy | Posted 8/10/2010 9:29:05 PM | message detail
I'm expecting at least Activision/Blizzard and EA polls. Don't know about Microsoft, they don't have many first party series of note. Possibly Ubisoft.
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EcchiFanboy | Posted 8/10/2010 9:33:03 PM | message detail
Also, regarding this poll, I gotta say I'm sad theres no Jak & Daxter. That woulda been my choice =\
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2010 9:33:46 PM | message detail
Yeah, he should've had Jak and Sly on here.

R&C's still the best series in that poll no matter what you put in it though.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2010 9:34:00 PM | message detail

From: transience | #030
the Blizzard overlap probably gives COD the win. Starcraft could pull it out though.

I'd like to see a Blizzard one with just the three options.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3583
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3957

Between those and BGE2 (I think we saw D2 look a little better than the other two Blizzard-titles), I'm taking Diablo. I could see them all hurting each other and allow CoD the win though. I don't know if it would necessarily even beat the Warcraft-series, my guess for the bottom of those three...but with the three together, CoD could reign supreme. Then again, Bond's another big FPS-series.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/10/2010 9:34:54 PM | message detail
On second thought, Liquid Snake did really really badly last contest. It's strange that he seems to be weaker than 2004 now, while Solid is challenging Cloud and Link.
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transience | Posted 8/10/2010 9:37:13 PM | message detail
Starcraft 2 is actually out now. that's a bigger boost; Diablo 3 has been nonexistent for months if not years.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/10/2010 9:39:39 PM | message detail
Mario/Cloud - Cloud wins 56-44.

That seems pretty extreme in my opinion. The only way I'm seeing that happening would be if Samus really is stronger than Mario indirectly. Cloud almost reached 53-47 on Samus in a night match, though Cloud could hit 54 in a 24 hour match. In a 24 hour match, I'll take Cloud to win 53-47 over Mario.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/10/2010 9:41:34 PM | message detail
The only way I'm seeing that happening would be if Samus really is stronger than Mario indirectly.

That she is, since 2008 anyway.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.
HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2010 9:47:10 PM | message detail

From: transience | #038
Starcraft 2 is actually out now. that's a bigger boost; Diablo 3 has been nonexistent for months if not years.


True, I was thinking more of before Starcraft 2. It'll boost Starcraft a lot, though I don't think it would be an easy win yet considering it's associated with Activision now and it has its controversies like being three games and the names-on-forums issue before it was retracted. Plus, RTSs just aren't that popular here; Diablo's an action-RPG and more of an American favorite than Starcraft, so...I dunno, it'd be fun.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/11/2010 7:01:47 AM | message detail
Personally I'd say, in regards to FF7 vs. Nintendo Acrobats:

Cloud with 51% on Mario
Mario with 54% on Sephiroth
Samus with 52% on Sephiroth

I think I've already said enough about how I refuse to accept Samus > Mario indirectly, and Super Mario Galaxy 2 being so awesome basically cements it.
charmander6000 | Posted 8/11/2010 5:29:28 PM | message detail
Too bad for whatever terrible reason GameFAQs doesn't care about SMG 1 and 2.

Also serious question, replace Animal Crossing with God of War in yesterday's poll, does God of War win over LoZ?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2010 5:30:04 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #043
Also serious question, replace Animal Crossing with God of War in yesterday's poll, does God of War win over LoZ?


God of War wouldn't even beat Mario Bros.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/11/2010 5:32:23 PM | message detail
Haha, does it beat SSB by much?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2010 5:34:39 PM | message detail
Plus, God of War is getting less in a poll with this crap than Zelda got yesterday.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/11/2010 6:01:20 PM | message detail
@charmander6000: Too bad indeed. Oh well, what do I care about this site's tastes? Nowadays anything MGS, LoZ, SSB, FF, or KH is guaranteed to be an elite, while anything else has a much lower chance just out of being something else. It's silly.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/11/2010 6:16:50 PM | message detail
Another Q: Would any of the nine series from yesterday's poll not finish in the top three today? The top two?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/11/2010 6:18:11 PM | message detail
...Animal Crossing? Maybe?

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