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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 900! [PARTY]
voltch | Posted 6/10/2010 9:27:04 AM | message detail |
I wonder which is weaker FF 2 or 3. --- Nyoro~n |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/10/2010 1:56:14 PM | message detail |
Probably 2 since some people think III is VI. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
HasteTwo | Posted 6/10/2010 8:53:17 PM | message detail |
SMB3
and SMW, which surely had a sizable quantity of leeching, received
about 61% on Final Fantasy 2/4. On their own, 65% on FF4 is pretty
conservative. Zelda:TP's worth 62% on FFXII, and Twilight Princess is worth 46% on Brawl. So, FFXII is worth 35% on Brawl. So, the conservative 35% on Mario World, or 35% on Brawl? From a pure numbers perspective, FFXII seems like the winner to me. That's why I ranked it above FF4, really, along with the same lack of faith in much of old-school Square like Harrich. But, wait, but that was last year. A year or two later I can FFXII dropping further. And, who knows, maybe FF4 could get the SFF advantage? I would easily take FFIX or Tactics over the 12th installment regardless. Finally, "lol x-stats". On a side note, how is the following opinion received: FF1 is much stronger than FF4, yet FF4 rSFFed it to death? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/11/2010 1:57:51 AM | message detail |
I
don't believe that there could be THAT much rSFF though. If FF4 just
narrowly edged out FF1 then I would consider it, but it's just like
Mario/Samus there really. In addition I personally believe that Final Fantasy (1) overperformed in the first round due to OFPUF and STF (being the only non-platformer), citing yet more reasons to junk the 4-way format for good. Also there was a factor that I have had lingering in my head for a while, called STF due to not being M-rated. After all, Knights of the Old Republic, Tales of Symphonia, and Twilight Princess exceeded expectations when against 3 M-rated games. Here are some questions that I'd like to see our general/consensus opinion on: Would a 2D game generally underperform against a 3D game? If a game and its sequel are alike, then is the former generally stronger (e.g. God of War > God of War II, Gears of War > Gears of War 2, Super Mario Galaxy > Super Mario Galaxy 2). Does GameFAQs generally have a backlash against M-rated games, or newer games that aren't in a popular franchise? |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 6/11/2010 4:21:00 AM | message detail |
Holy ****, Shenmue's winning something. Doubt we'll ever see that happen again! As for old vs new Square, at this point I'd probably take 8 over 6, but 12 is a joke in my eyes. TP's not as strong as LMS thinks it is, and it's not really a fan favorite compared to even 4. I'd have no qualms taking 12 over all but the four guaranteed stinkers. Plus for all we know, Dissidia may have given a slight boost to the games as well. We all know how surprising old Square characters were last contest! If people really took a liking to Cecil, Kefka, and Terra due to Dissidia, what's stopping them from trying out the old games and their hundreds of remakes? From: LinkMarioSamus | #404 In most cases, yeah, though that's due more to the shift towards a voter base that grew up with the N64/PS1. So I'd agree with that, but not because of the 2D/3D thing at all. Plus there are plenty of exceptions (LttP would beat all non-OoT games, FF6 could beat 9 and 12, SMB3 and SMW would likely beat Galaxy and crush Sunshine, etc). If a game and its sequel are alike, then is the former generally stronger (e.g. God of War > God of War II, Gears of War > Gears of War 2, Super Mario Galaxy > Super Mario Galaxy 2). Tough to say. It's possible that the sequel may be what draws more people in. I'd really just rather assume the two are equal, though if they're not, then I'll go with you and say the former would be stronger. Does GameFAQs generally have a backlash against M-rated games, or newer games that aren't in a popular franchise? The thing with M games is that you'll never see one of the four big series here (Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros, Final Fantasy) with a M game. It's not that all M games would suck here, because there's evidence otherwise (Resident Evil 4, Fallout 3, and maybe the MGS games though they may be rated Teen, I have no clue on their ratings), but that most of them don't really appeal to the GameFAQs crowd. Newer games also have a tougher time with things, but they can still have good strength if they're good enough. Look at Portal and LittleBigPlanet. Look at Uncharted 2 and Mass Effect 2, whose franchises were incredibly weak here before the sequels came out and boosted their characters significantly. --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
vcharon | Posted 6/11/2010 7:19:26 AM | message detail |
Ryo Hazuki > Sonic confirmed. --- :> |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/11/2010 8:24:02 AM | message detail |
I
don't buy FF being stronger than FF2/4, Maybe pretty much even due to
the brand-name, but given the way their match went, I can't see FF
being ahead of FF2/4 by any amount. 2004 would suggest FF should look
better, but we also never saw FF2/4 that year. --- Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515 |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 6/11/2010 8:25:48 AM | message detail |
I don't buy FF > FFIV, and nor do I buy FFVIII > FFVI. --- Final Fantasy XIII review: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/review/R140434.html You're pretty good, Dr_Football. |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/11/2010 8:30:52 AM | message detail |
All the major MGS games are M-rated. Peace Walker is apparently rated T though. Also one could cite the fact that most people don't start with M-rated games and therefore don't have as much nostalgia for them as usual. The same could be a reason why shooters, MMOs, an strategy games are not very popular on GameFAQs compared to on other places, because they are poor genres for somebody to start with, and all appeal mostly to the PC fanbase who had those genres way before console gamers did, and GameFAQs is a mostly console oriented fanbase. NUTS. More random questions to ask: Do we think Final Fantasy XIII would be an instant high midcarder on this site, or would it be a flop like Final Fantasy XII? Personally I think the former. I know this is rather irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but is Soulcalibur really the strongest Dreamcast game? Would it be impossible for that title to be held by something like Skies of Arcadia, Shenmue, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, or even one of the Sonic Adventure games? Most people probably don't want to believe this, but I personally think that GTA: San Andreas and God of War were LFFing each other in that match. Think hard and then tell me whether you agree or not. Or don't answer this question. Rate the following second/third-tier Nintendo games: Super Mario RPG, Yoshi's Island, Super Metroid, Link's Awakening, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64. I'd like to see what most of us think here. |
XxSoulxX | Posted 6/11/2010 9:08:31 AM | message detail |
Tough to say. It's possible that the sequel may be what draws more people in. I'd really just rather assume the two are equal, though if they're not, then I'll go with you and say the former would be stronger. If both are around the same in popularity, then the first would be stronger. The first game is what drew the fans into it, so that game would have more nostalgia over the second game. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/11/2010 9:27:25 AM | message detail |
Holy ****, Shenmue's winning something. Doubt we'll ever see that happen again! Yeah, this is weird. Sonic Adventure 2 was winning early on in the poll. It took until 3:46 AM for Shenmue to actually take the lead over Sonic Adventure 2. Also, Sonic Adventure 2 can't even win over Shenmue in the UK, where Sonic games are very strong there. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
HasteTwo | Posted 6/11/2010 11:40:17 AM | message detail |
Behold,
here is Haste's ultimate dissection of Final Fantasies 1 and 4!
Honestly, this is one of the most intriguing enigmas from the Game
Contest to me. I see the consensus on FF/FF4 now. I can understand the logic of refusing to think FF1 is stronger than FF4 by virtue of it being requiring a massive SFF swing, in addition to 4-way matches acting abnormal sometimes. I think I will stick to my own opinion on Final Fantasy being stronger, though, even if you think I'm insane. =P You see, I think that, while both FF and FF4 get franchise votes, I believe this is far stronger with the original FF. I can just see new-school FF fans, who haven't even played much, or any, of the original, get excited about that first game regardless. FF# (random number that many haven't played)...not so much. But, once FF4 and FF get put together, those not-so-old-school Square fans get confused...which one is better? With FF4's presence, sudden FF1's franchise votes mostly vanish. Perhaps they also heard others' opinions of FF4 being better than FF1, despite having not played FF4 themselves. They kind of abandon Final Fantasy altogether, and then haveto choose between FF4 and SMW, which of course, leads most of those to Mario World due to it being the much more popular game. When going through each match 1-by-1 (belated!) I honestly thought FF was going to take out FF4 based on their round 1 scores. (even though in my bracket I had SMW > FF4, not FF) Anyway, after seeing FF4 not only cream FF, but get destroyed by SMW, I got mega-confused. I thought maybe FF4 underperformed (even after accounting for FF stealing its votes); either that or there's the idea that I posted above. But, Round 3 proved that FF4 just wasn't that strong, which left me with only that explanation. Either that or FF1 just drastically overperformed...once in each contest. I don't buy Final Fantasy overperforming due to being up against 3 platformers, when two of them only took about 18% of the vote. You could say Mario World did extra-well due to being against 3 NES games. If there's any reason Final Fantasy would overperform, I would say it's the pic factor. http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=6 http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=35 Final Fantasy looks pretty darn amazing in Round 1 (not that it looks bad in R2) and completely sticks out from the rest of the competition. In addition, there are few, if any, things that Final Fantasy is more well-known for than its class system. To coincide: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=48 This is from Sp2K4. Not quite as visually impressive as when it faced Mario World, but still very good. Along with the Nintendo/Square rivalry, it could perhaps have caused somewhat of an over-performance on Final Fantasy's side. (Hallelujah for creative's store of contest pictures!) Other reasons for possible Final Fantasy overperformance could include: 1)Square/Nintendo rivalry (ONE Square game against ONE Nintendo game)... this factor could be magnified by the fact that we're talking the "original" Final Fantasy here, meaning more-easily-obtained franchise votes. These factors, along with pic factor, could be multiplicative. 2)There's the fact that Contra, who got a decent 30% on FF1 in Sp2K4, did so pitiful in our next game contest. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/11/2010 11:42:07 AM | message detail |
Okay,
so SA2 is pathetic even today, and it's supposed to be Sonic's 3D-gem.
I hadn't realized how pitiful it's been over the years though: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?search=Sonic+Adventure+2 The only poll where it looked impressive at all was in the Sonic-poll from 2001...and given what we saw from Sonic 1/2/3 last year and Sonic 2 in 2004, that doesn't mean diddly anymore. Dammit, Sonic's brand-name is supposed to mean something -- it was still able to get 42% on SSB with an unfair pic in the Series Contest. The sum's greater than its parts, I get that...but these are pretty no-name games, too. It's one thing if it couldn't back when the games were new, but no name-power flexing here now that these are mostly forgotten games? Yeesh. It's actually an alright game, too...for shame. --- Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515 |
HasteTwo | Posted 6/11/2010 11:46:20 AM | message detail |
I'm not done yet! Let's look at some numbers from their matches, as well as making some other assumptions: BT - 13.85% FF - 36.76% PoP - 3.62% SMW - 45.78% This suggests 44.54% against Mario World. This in turn suggests about that same score against Super Mario Bros. 3, of course. Here was what Final Fantasy was expected to get against Mario World and SMB3, respectively, back in Sp2K4. 47.08% against SMW, and 40.40% against Super Mario Bros. 3. In other words, things have been fairly consistant. SMB3 dropped more than FF1, and SMW seems to grown, at least in relation to FF1. All-in-all, nothing out of the ordinary from this perspective. I would rather not talk about ideas that Super Mario World somehow underperformed against Chrono Trigger in Sp2K4, or that SMW was able to rSFF SMB3 in Sp2K9...but I'd rather not think about that. Finally, if you do not believe in either of FF4's matches against the Mario games, let's measure it from a different perspective: Mega Man 3. It's very risky relying on this, but for interest's sake: Crystalis - 4.00% FF4 - 50.65% MM3 - 35.29% RCR - 10.06% MM3 gets an expected 41.07%. Let's assume MM2 = MM3, even though I feel MM2 is the stronger game. Let's consider another match: Tetris - 15.67% MM2 - 13.71% SMB - 36.18% Zelda - 34.43% You could claim that MM2 was hit by "4th place factor", but realize that it actually held up a little better than Tetris; not to mention that SMB and Zelda are hurting each other the most, anyway. Anyway, Mega Man 2 is worth 27.48% on Mario Bros., and 28.18% on Zelda. To sum it up: MM3 is expected to get 41.07% on FF4 MM2 is expected to get 27.48% on SMB. To favor MM2 more, if you measure Zelda through SMB in Round 2, 30.34% against Zelda. Thus, if we set MM3 = MM2, FF4 gets 36.94% against Legend of Zelda. It may be even worse than that. If we set Zelda equal to Mario World (very generous), that's 36.94% against Mario World. That's less than what Final Fantasy managed. Also, if you assume FF1 stole 100% of FF4's votes (add FF1 and FF4), FF4 is worth 40.5% on Mario World. Again, less than the 45% FF1 is expected to get. For fun, let's also measure FF4 through River City Ransom! ...nah, let's not. It makes FF4 look too horrible. So, no matter how you look at it, it's hard to claim FF4 is above FF1 in raw strength, even if you assume Mega Man 3 is stronger than Mega Man 2. Now, I'm not saying FF4 being stronger than FF1 cannot possibly be the case. It would require explanations such as those factors I mentioned in the previous post, with a very large effect. Or, maybe... Super Mario World SFFing Final Fantasy IV? =P --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/11/2010 11:53:26 AM | message detail |
Okay, so SA2 is pathetic even today, and it's supposed to be Sonic's 3D-gem. SA2 isn't done just yet. The fact that SA2 is winning over Shenmue in the US means that it could come back with the ASV and still win here. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
HasteTwo | Posted 6/11/2010 12:02:11 PM | message detail |
Most
people probably don't want to believe this, but I personally think that
GTA: San Andreas and God of War were LFFing each other in that match.
Think hard and then tell me whether you agree or not. Or don't answer
this question. To a very small extent, maybe. I don't think either of those games are very strong. A think more likely what happened is like what you said in a previous post, but with different reasoning: that Tales of Symphonia overperformed somewhat in Round 1 (look at Round 2; ToS dropped in comparison to TESIV); it kind of sticks out to me, being the only GameCube game and the only JRPG. 2D vs. 3D? I don't think there'd be much SFF, except in cases like Super Mario Bros. where large amounts of franchise votes suddenly vanish. If the 3D games are just more popular, then, yes, they'd win. Super Mario Bros. 3, for instance, would hold up perfectly fine against Mario 64, I think. Zelda: LttP vs. Zelda: OoT...well, the only reason I see SFF here is because OoT is just a lot more popular. I still want to see how Zelda:LttP does against it without FF7 being there, though. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/11/2010 2:20:13 PM | message detail |
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/11/2010 2:20:47 PM | message detail |
By the way Haste, with analysis like that, it's great to have you back! --- Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515 |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/11/2010 4:07:46 PM | message detail |
EDIT: since nobody had talked about the bracket yet, I made a quick change. Carry on. Okay guys, finally feel pretty good about the bracket; I made it a lot harder on myself than I really should have. The one-seeds are all legitimate contenders of the top game of their division's labeled era if not the favorite, then the rest is era-free with no age-bias. It turns out doing the vote-ins only REALLY make a difference if the already-selected games are chosen by nominations instead of strength (otherwise they're just glorified fodder still losing the same matches), so I had to rearrange both what I had and what order the vote-in games came in to make it work...grrrr. Every game that got twenty points or more from the rankings made it in. I tried to prepare for this pre-rankings by picking games like Tetris that should really make the contest anyway and have decent strength (so no Pong-like entries), but...bah. Anyway, enough, here's what I worked out after I added in the games we ranked and gave the bracket a follow-up face-lift: 2009-2010: 1-Mass Effect 2 8-Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 4-Final Fantasy 13 5-Oblivion 3-Final Fantasy 9 6-Half-Life 2 2-Super Mario 64 7-Street Fighter 2 2007-2008: 1-Super Smash Bros. Brawl 8-Final Fantasy 2/4 4-Sonic & Knuckles 5-Okami 3-Metroid Prime 6-Rock Band 2 2-Super Mario World 7-Borderlands 2003-2004: 1-Metal Gear Solid 3 8-Assassin's Creed 2 4-Super Mario RPG 5-Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal 3-Super Metroid 6-Super Smash Bros. 2-Kingdom Hearts 2 7-Metal Gear Solid 2 1997-1998: 1-Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow 8-Grand Theft Auto 3 4-Tetris 5-Portal 3-Kingdom Hearts 6-Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 2-Chrono Trigger 7-Super Mario Galaxy 2 Up to 1996: 1-Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past 8-Soul Calibur 2 4-World of Warcraft 5-Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 3-Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 6-Legend of Zelda 2-Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker 7-Resident Evil 2 1999-2000: 1-Final Fantasy 8 8-Diablo 2 4-Final Fantasy 3/6 5-Super Mario Bros. 3-Resident Evil 4 6-Goldeneye 2-Metal Gear Solid 4 7-Final Fantasy X-2 2001-2002: 1-Final Fantasy X 8-Super Mario Galaxy 4-Metal Gear Solid 5-Final Fantasy 12 3-Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 6-Mega Man X 2-Super Smash Bros. Melee 7-Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 2005-2006: 1-Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 8-Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 4-Tales of Symphonia 5-Starcraft 3-Fallout 3 6-Mario Kart 64 2-Super Mario Bros. 3 7-God of War --- Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515 |
LOLContests | Posted 6/11/2010 8:32:18 PM | message detail |
I
still think FF1/FFIV was massive rSFF. It had put up very impressive
numbers in all of its matches in both years up to that point, and I
would take it to even be stronger than FFVI indirectly. FF1 being up
against 3 platformers shouldn't matter, as FFIV was as well in R3, and
failed to perform anywhere close to better, despite being in a much
more advantageous situation for itself. Sonic Adventure 2 is probably underperforming in today's poll as it's already available for play on a next-gen system, albeit through backwards compatibility. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
AmazingKirby | Posted 6/11/2010 8:43:45 PM | message detail |
Poor Shenmue. =( --- caps |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/11/2010 8:56:29 PM | message detail |
Turns out SA2 won afterall. Hooray, it's on-par with Shenmue then. A win's a win though, good for it. --- Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515 |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 6/11/2010 9:04:57 PM | message detail |
Poor Shenmue. Poor Kyo. Poor Guybrush. --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 6/11/2010 9:05:40 PM | message detail |
And I'll tackle that bracket tomorrow when I'm sober, HaRRicH. --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/11/2010 9:06:15 PM | message detail |
SA2 needed the ASV to bail it out of what could have been an embarrassing loss. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 6/11/2010 9:07:57 PM | message detail |
So instead, it's an embarrassing win. Good to know. --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/12/2010 2:21:05 AM | message detail |
I just voted randomly. Skies of Arcadia not being in yesterday's poll was stupid. Man, didn't this site used to hate the PS3 and love all things Wii? I'm not one to brag about being right or anything, but I do believe I predicted this. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· "As always Ulti, I bow to thou wisdom." -MWC |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 6/12/2010 6:20:07 AM | message detail |
I
guess I shouldn't be surprised DS isn't doing better, but 3DS is the
only big thing coming into E3 besides Valve's announcement and maybe
Rock Band 3, though pretty much everything has been leaked for that
already. --- Not Wylvane |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/12/2010 8:37:16 AM | message detail |
When
the next LoZ-game's trailer is shown, people are going to say Nintendo
won E3. Metroid: Other M and the rest of their line-up won't hurt,
either. Just give it time. Valve has an announcement? I remember Portal 2 was going to be their main news, then they had that "press release" where Portal 2 would no longer be shown. If they still announce something big there, it's hard not to expect it to be related to Portal 2 or Half-Life 2: Episode 3. --- Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515 |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/12/2010 8:38:00 AM | message detail |
Oh, and what all is expected from the 360 and PS3 this E3 anyway? --- Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515 |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 6/12/2010 2:31:01 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #429 Valve has an announcement? I remember Portal 2 was going to be their main news, then they had that "press release" where Portal 2 would no longer be shown. If they still announce something big there, it's hard not to expect it to be related to Portal 2 or Half-Life 2: Episode 3. The conference is still a Portal 2 conference, there's just a surprise involved. --- But it IS Portal 2 based. |
LOLContests | Posted 6/12/2010 2:43:10 PM | message detail |
I read somewhere that there was a rumor that Valve was gonna announce Duke Nukem Forever at their conference. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/12/2010 9:12:56 PM | message detail |
For once, Nintendo does not embarrass itself again in a poll. Also, pathetic vote totals on today's poll. This poll is on track to finish around 51000 votes. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 6/12/2010 9:16:39 PM | message detail |
It's pretty hilarious how Nintendo's pretty much doubling the DS + Wii performance of the last poll here. I wonder if Wii would've outright won yesterday's poll had Bacon put the choice as Wii (Zelda). I certainly wouldn't expect Nintendo to be winning if it was listed as Nintendo, I want to see the 3DS and the Wii Vitality Sensor. --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/13/2010 6:32:19 PM | message detail |
I looked over the games that will be making appearances at E3 and here's how I think it'll affect the character battles: -Vault Boy might get back in if Fallout: New Vegas is popular enough -Chuck Greene has a great shot at getting in seeing as Frank West was in twice and Dead Rising 2 will probably sell even better thanks to having online co-op and being multiplatform -The return of Morrigan? Marvel vs Capcom 3 will probably boost Ryu and maybe get Chun-Li back in. Dante will boost too. -Dragon Age II hype finally gets a DA rep in? Doubtful -Metroid Other M boosts Samus and makes Zero Suit Samus stronger -Pikmin 3 gets Olimar back in? Also doubtful -Pokemon's 5th generation gets a rep? Maybe Zoroark or Smugleaf? -Pac-Man is getting a new game. He might get back in if it doesn't suck -New Zelda game boosts Link and co even more if that's even possible -Professor Layton boosts from new game -Golden Sun DS rep? -Master Chief boosts from Halo: Reach even though he isn't in it -Starkiller gets in after Force Unleashed II? If the timing is right... Darth Revan sucked pretty hard, though -Guybrush boosts from new Monkey Island (lolz) -HK-47 boosts from Star Wars: The Old Republic where he is an NPC. Probably not much... -Raiden boosts from MGS: Rising -If Castlevania: Lords of Shadow sells well enough, we might get an Alucard boost (who isn't in the game but whatever) and a new rep in Gabriel Belmont (doubtful) -Sonic boosts from Sonic Adventure re-release and Sonic 4. His friends boosts from Sonic Colors for the Wii. -Yakuza series is gaining steam in the Us and Yakuza 4 is on the horizon. If things sync up well and it releases during the nom period, we might see Kazuma getting in and performing on Tanner levels (doubtful again) -New Deus Ex. The return of JC Denton? -Noctis from FF Versus XIII gets in probably -New Kingdom Hearts boosts Sora and co -LittleBigPlanet 2 boosts Sackboy -Infamous 2 might boost Cole enough to get in... Doubtful, though. Really doubtful. -Dead Space 2 might boost Isaac enough to get in... Doubtfut, though. Really doubtful. -New God of War game for PSP gives tiny boost to Kratos -Dead or Alive 5 gives tiny boost to Ryu Hayabusa -Portal 2 gives nice boost to GLaDOS; other characters will be in it, maybe we'll see one of them as well? -Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood will boost Ezio -Mortal Kombat 9 will give a boost to Sub-Zero and get Scorpion back in --- (|| ' ' ||) ~Zen . /|_|\ Freak out in a Moonage Daydream, oh yeah... |
ffmasterjose | Posted 6/13/2010 6:34:59 PM | message detail |
There's gonna be a Mortal Kombat 9? Excellent :) --- Only fools are enslaved by time and space 4 8 15 16 23 42 | Don't mistake coincidence for fate |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/13/2010 6:37:46 PM | message detail |
Yup! It's 2D, too. Can't wait! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBY0Hzh0BSQ That and the new movie (if Warner says yes) should lead to a serious Subby/Scorps boost. --- (|| ' ' ||) ~Zen . /|_|\ Freak out in a Moonage Daydream, oh yeah... |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/13/2010 7:41:56 PM | message detail |
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/13/2010 7:43:02 PM | message detail |
Also, pathetic vote totals on today's poll. This poll is on track to finish around 51000 votes. "whoops" Looks like I'll be off by about 13000 here. Never use the vote totals from the first 5 minutes of a poll to estimate the final vote totals here, because it's not going to be a good indicator of a poll's final vote totals. I should have waited until the end of the first hour before making an estimate. The 51000 estimate came from the fact that the Xbox 360 GotY poll from earlier this year had 563 votes at the freeze and finished at 50445 votes. Today's poll had 573 votes at the freeze and should have been expected to finish around 51000 votes based on the Xbox 360 poll. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/13/2010 8:15:12 PM | message detail |
Holy **** Donkey Kong is getting rebooted by the Metroid Prime team. Massive DK boost anybody? --- (|| ' ' ||) ~Zen . /|_|\ Freak out in a Moonage Daydream, oh yeah... |
ffmasterjose | Posted 6/13/2010 10:29:36 PM | message detail |
Its gonna be 2D? I'm already sold :) Gotta watch the trailer --- Only fools are enslaved by time and space 4 8 15 16 23 42 | Don't mistake coincidence for fate |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/14/2010 2:47:40 AM | message detail |
Wait I thought Retro Studios was gone. Oh well good that Nintendo's best 2nd party developer since Rare left can flex its muscles again. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/14/2010 7:14:46 AM | message detail |
oh maaaan new Killer Instinct today?! FULGORE for CBIX! --- (|| ' ' ||) ~Zen . /|_|\ Freak out in a Moonage Daydream, oh yeah... |
UItimaterializer | Posted 6/14/2010 7:17:36 AM | message detail |
I'm glad other people care about E3 so I don't have to. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ Words are so very unnecessary. They can only do harm. |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/14/2010 9:03:51 PM | message detail |
I voted for "I don't care about it at all, it's meaningless" yesterday. Also, XD at the fact that "I'm amazed, I can't wait to get it" couldn't get its first vote until around the 160 vote mark. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/15/2010 2:08:36 PM | message detail |
So summary of Nintendo's E3 anyone? --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/15/2010 2:57:05 PM | message detail |
From tranny's E3-topic: From: transience | #324 Since then, there have been a lot of screenshots for 3DS-games released, including games from RE, KH, DoA, SF4, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Pilot Wings, and Animal Crossing. There are also shots that look like there will be remakes to MGS3, Star Fox 64, and LoZ:OoT, too. Throw in that LoZ:SS sounds like it's getting over its bad on-stage demo already, and Nintendo had a fine E3. --- Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515 |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/15/2010 3:33:15 PM | message detail |
Also, since Sony had a conference today too, here's tranny's summary: From: transience | #384 --- Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515 |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 6/15/2010 3:41:44 PM | message detail |
Basically,
if we get another character contest, Nintendo, headed by "never get
less than 60%" Link will crush all-comers. Except possibly Snake if
MGS3D is any good. --- Final Fantasy XIII review: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/review/R140434.html You're pretty good, Dr_Football. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/15/2010 3:45:34 PM | message detail |
Link's still got to get 54% against Cloud once before he starts thinking about never falling below 60% on anyone. --- Dr. Football was not stopped by any of us, and won the Guru Contest. |
