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From: UItimaterializer | #349
Before I forget to ask, how many games in that eightpack would you guys take over Chrono Trigger?

No chance: LttP, RBY, Melee, Brawl, SM64
Probably not, but maybe if I were going upset-crazy: FFX, SMW
Decent chance: SMB3

RBY is borderline between "no chance" and "probably not" but again, I think that's just me being silly. SMW and SMB3 are also in an odd situation because I'm not sure there's that much difference between them to justify putting them in separate places, but I'm also not sure if they both belong in either category, so I split them up rather arbitrarily.

Though honestly, CT could lose to all 8 and I wouldn't be all that surprised. Not too happy about it, but not surprised.
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...I just realized that those categories should be viewed in the light of "Could CT beat them" instead of "Would I take them against CT" as the question was actually asked. I mean, that should probably be clear from context, but yeah...

Whoops. >_>
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
SC2k10 (395/448) 98.5138th Percentile

I wasn't gonna say anything <_<
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This is weird. A huge outbreak of random updates out of nowhere between 6:04 PM and 6:05 PM. At 6:01 PM, the first normal 5 minute came in with 382 votes total on that update. The current vote total so far was at 80308. Then around 6:04 PM, another update came in with 190 more votes. Then 3 more random updates out of nowhere between 6:04 PM and 6:05 PM. I ended up catching these updates earlier:

4 or less - My first game was on a 360/PS3/Wii 0.24% 194
5-10 - I started with the DC/PS2/GameCube/Xbox 5.99% 4819
11-15 - I started with the PS1/Saturn/N64 24.81% 19973
16-20 - I started with the SNES/Genesis 31.88% 25665
21-25 - I started with the NES/Master System 27.42% 22069
26 or more - I've been playing since the days of Atari 9.66% 7778
TOTAL VOTES 80498

4 or less - My first game was on a 360/PS3/Wii 0.24% 194
5-10 - I started with the DC/PS2/GameCube/Xbox 5.99% 4820
11-15 - I started with the PS1/Saturn/N64 24.81% 19977
16-20 - I started with the SNES/Genesis 31.88% 25667
21-25 - I started with the NES/Master System 27.42% 22080
26 or more - I've been playing since the days of Atari 9.66% 7781
TOTAL VOTES 80519

4 or less - My first game was on a 360/PS3/Wii 0.24% 194
5-10 - I started with the DC/PS2/GameCube/Xbox 5.98% 4822
11-15 - I started with the PS1/Saturn/N64 24.81% 19989
16-20 - I started with the SNES/Genesis 31.88% 25689
21-25 - I started with the NES/Master System 27.42% 22095
26 or more - I've been playing since the days of Atari 9.66% 7784
TOTAL VOTES 80573

4 or less - My first game was on a 360/PS3/Wii 0.24% 194
5-10 - I started with the DC/PS2/GameCube/Xbox 5.99% 4826
11-15 - I started with the PS1/Saturn/N64 24.81% 20002
16-20 - I started with the SNES/Genesis 31.88% 25705
21-25 - I started with the NES/Master System 27.42% 22109
26 or more - I've been playing since the days of Atari 9.66% 7791
TOTAL VOTES 80627

Wow, just weird. Haven't seen any more weird updates like that since it ended.
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ!

Well, that didn't last long. Just got a 2 minute update.
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ!

New Driver game was announced. The return of Tanner?
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. /|_|\ Freak out in a Moonage Daydream, oh yeah...

We better hope not.

Fact/Fiction: Tanner would do better on Snake today than he did in 2004.
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Not Wylvane
Dr Football Factor'd.

FICTION: Tanner would do better on Snake today than he did in 2004. For some odd reason new releases seem to not do anything for weak characters, unless they're bigger than the original.

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Final Fantasy X

Super Mario Bros. 3
Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow

Super Smash Bros. Melee
Super Mario World

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Super Mario 64

The toughest choices for me are SSBM/SMW and RBY/SSBB.

SMW loses to Melee, I suppose. There unfortunately is no reliable data whatsoever. I suppose somebody could take SMW/SMB3/Zelda:LttP/FF7 and compare it to RBY/GSC/Zelda:MM/MGS and derive an estimation of SMW/SMB3's strength that way (but they probably don't overlap as much as RBY and GSC). About the only thing I can assume from the matches of SMW and SMB3 is that... Sonic 1 is probably a bit stronger than Sonic 2 or Sonic 3. Otherwise, SMB3 is nearly down to FF6's level. In addition, Street Fighter II did as well on Sonic 1 as MK2 did on Sonic 2. Assuming SFII is clearly a step above MK2, I think that says something about Sonic 1, and in turn, not making SMB3 looking as much like crap. Anyway, Melee is just a huge hit here, and I just can't get myself to take a Mario game that isn't exactly fan-favorite over Melee. Granted, Melee was a slight bit underwhelming in the games contest due to having a pretty close match with FFX (who was splitting some votes with KH). Of course, FFX is not one to understimate.

RBY and SSBB: these are both serious contenders for that #3 spot among GameFAQs gaming. MGS4, who couldn't quite match up to FFX, was beaten down pretty handily by SSBB in Round 3. SSBB somehow lost to MGS4 due to fanbase leeching the next round. Strange how the tables turned that much.... RBY was ahead of MGS by a fairly comfortable margin despite being in OoT's presence. I think I will take RBY.

Oh, and I suppose there's a small possibility Zelda: LttP could end up winning this, too.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Pretty cool to see someone who just saw last contest (more or less) give a perspective.

Anyway, counting the Matches Hall of Fame now, closing the topic when I'm done. If you still want to vote, do it ASAP.
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A topic link would help: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/54688432
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And it's in the books!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/55104944
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame
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Wrong topic. Try this one: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/55104996
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To provide my perspective on this poll:

What a horrible result. Seriously, almost half of you guys really hate spiders? They arguably do more good than bad, since without them there would be more insect pests. Just watch your step or something, or put it somewhere else. Usually all they do is give a painful bite if you touch it, and they will run away if you step too close.

Admittedly I watched an episode of National Geographic's Really Wild Animals that I had on VHS, and hadn't seen since '02 or '03, recently (three times in fact, and once while playing video game music over it), and that more or less destroyed my fear of spiders. Now it's just the annoying insects I hate (e.g. mosquitoes, roaches). Spiders are fine though.

Seriously, almost half of you guys really hate spiders?

Let's blame North America and South America for this result, because "Let it be, it's not harming anyone" is winning in Europe and Asia. Because of Europe and Asia, "Kill it immediately" might end up losing an update to "Let it be, it's not harming anyone". However, there's not much time left to pull this off with the morning vote to start soon.
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Don't respond to LMS. He'll leave the topic for good if everyone ignore him.
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All you love is a lie.

At least he didn't post another list of games from a magazine or something. Those lists are worth ignoring him for, but he made a post that wasn't another game list from a magazine. So I found no reason to ignore that specific post.
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ!

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > Final Fantasy X

Shouldn't be close.

Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow > Super Mario Bros. 3

RBY was just flat out more impressive last contest, and is our foremost contender for the #3 spot. SMB3 isn't really in contention for that anymore (actually, it never was really in contention for that title).

Super Smash Bros. Melee > Super Mario World

This one is tough. I would have taken Melee easily before the last contest, but SMW did very well in that contest, defeating SMB3 twice out of 3 times, while SSBM put up rather lackluster numbers against FFX and KH, and then got pulverized in 3-way Nintendo SFF. Granted, OOT and RBY are really strong, but this still doesn't look like the monstrous Smash we saw in 2006 (I still cannot get over SSB + SSBM putting up 38% against the entire Mario series). I believe that before the Brawl launch, when the hype was at its peak, SSBM was the clear #3 on this site......but it doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

Super Mario 64 > Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Brawl and Melee are probably really close, but I think Mario 64 is the strongest Mario game, so it gets the nod here.

Round 2

Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow > The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

Is there any Nintendo game other than OOT that can beat LTTP? Intuitively, if there's a one, I'd guess RBY to be it. It's the most independent big Nintendo game, the one with a fanbase that is least connected to the monster known as the Legend of Zelda. It is well removed generationally from the SNES, and the portion of the site who started gaming on the N64/PS1 generation has reached the level where that generation has supplanted the SNES/Genesis generation as the major power on the site.

Statswise, RBY has also shown the numbers it needs to take down LTTP- 37% on OOT > 36% on FFVII, although that 36% on FFVII is probably a tad too low for LTTP as SM64 probably did more damage to it than FFVI did to FFVII.

Super Mario 64 > Super Smash Bros. Melee

I suppose Brawl has earned its way to my putting it on an equal footing with Melee......so if SM64 can beat Brawl, it can beat Melee too.

Final

Pokemon RBY > Super Mario 64

Anything that can beat LTTP can beat Mario 64 too.

As for Chrono Trigger....

CT loses to:

Pokemon RBY
A Link to the Past
Super Mario 64

CT has even matches with:

Super Smash Bros. Melee
Super Smash Bros. Brawl

CT beats:

Super Mario World
Super Mario Bros. 3
Final Fantasy X
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Dr. Football was not stopped by any of us, and won the Guru Contest.

Wait Mario 64 > both Smash games is the consensus? The only way I can spin that is Melee doing only a little better on Ocarina last contest despite having less reason to be SFFd.

Obviously SSBB's strength is important. We know that Twilight Princess is fairly close in strength, so...

...darn you stupid 4-way making everything a wild-card! Somehow I have to liken the Spring '09 contest to a story with a cliffhanger ending (or better, something like Half-Life 2 where the main villain has been defeated but lots of questions still remain).

yesssss, no longer on the warning zone.
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Nyoro~n

Great success.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

Some thoughts on the good hypotheticals proposed earlier:

Super Smash Bros. Brawl vs. Pokemon RBY
This is the type of match that might go back and forth through the years, rising/falling with pokemon nostalgia. I'd definitely take RBY last year, probably this year, but if pokemon fades with an unsuccessful fifth generation this could change in a bit (and even come back after that).
Final Fantasy Tactics vs. Zelda: Majora's Mask
This is somewhat of a gut pick, but there's no doubt that old school square is beginning to fall off a bit. A large part of FFT's strength will come from FFTA, which was bad beyond belief, while MM was at least released on the virtual console.
Super Mario World vs. Metal Gear Solid
Goldeneye vs. Kingdom Hearts
Call of Duty 4 vs. Portal
This is basically an antipick of CoD. I don't trust it.
God of War III vs. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Street Fighter II vs. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
in after SF2 lost?


The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Final Fantasy X

Super Mario Bros. 3
Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow

Super Smash Bros. Melee
Super Mario World

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Super Mario 64

SMB 3 > LttP
Melee > SM64

SMB3 > Melee

those predictions taken completely out of nowhere, would need to actually do some research. I probably severely misplaced RBY or SM64 or LttP or something. Oh, and I'd take Crono Trigger to win the pack due to blind faith/belief that Crono's performance on Missingno last year wasn't horrible given the circumstances.

And yes, it is proof why LoZ/FF7 need to be booted into a separate section of the bracket. My friend and I went through the characters bracket and drew out what we envisioned it would look like without Link next year, and IMO it looks totally awesome. Perhaps I'll pot it later.
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Dr_Football only lost his perfect bracket because he was resting starters in order to win the guru!
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From: LinkMarioSamus | #369
something like Half-Life 2 where the main villain has been defeated but lots of questions still remain).

Main Villain (Read: Reigning Champion) was defeated and as for questions:

We still have no concrete knowledge about either Smash games strength. The only competitors of worth SSBM faced were FFX with KH before running into OoT. It'd be hard to place it above RBY, but even that's possible if the SFF is uneven enough. Running the numbers, if the FFX votes split evenly then SSBM needs 70% of the OoT votes. That's not impossible by any standards.

All we know about Brawl is it's comfortably stronger than both MGS4 and TP, though it had things in it's favour in it's match with MGS4 and TP could even potentially be indirectly stronger. The chances are low though, it's not often Zelda gets beaten up by SFF.

SM64 was within daily variation of LttP, does it win with the 2 FF games removed? There's a good argument there with FF7 there, as FF7 shares the same generation as 64. And while it's performance on LttP was clearly much better than SMW and SMB3's, they had each other to deal with.

RBY looked incredibly strong, but how much was it affected by SFF? It had to deal with an All-Nintendo first round, GSC in the second round and Ocarina from then. We know it would surely beat FFX comfortably, it lost by only 3% with SSBM and OoT in the match. So where does it stack up against LttP or Mario 64? Who knows. On the other hand it got 36.9% against OoT in R3, how high does it push on FF7? Using the values from that match and the final RBY with OoT gets 39% on FF7.

Chrono Trigger was all over the place. It lost more comfortably to Mario 64 with two Mario games in the poll than with FF7 and GE. Surely it has to receive the lion's share of the FF7 votes, so what the hell happened in R2? Hell if I know.
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I really want BGE3 already.

bring back 1 vs 1 games contest damnit!
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Uguu~

Seriously.
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FastFalcon punched all of our brackets.

So, gonna try to make a mock-BGE3 bracket. Just sixty-four games, no LoZ;OoT/FF7, and no division by eras (though I did a little something just for the one-seeds). I've picked a little over half of the bracket already and am going to try a vote-in process with you guys like I did for a previous mock-bracket. I'm asking for at least the top five of each of these groups, but feel free to rank them all:


Guitar Hero 3
Final Fantasy 12
Super Mario Bros.
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Kingdom Hearts
Dragon Age: Origins
Super Mario 64
Chrono Cross
Final Fantasy 2/4

Half-Life 2
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Bioshock
Mario Kart 64
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Mass Effect
Resident Evil 4
Shadow of the Colossus

Bioshock 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Resident Evil 2
Metal Gear Solid 4
Goldeneye
Uncharted 2
Halo 3
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Super Mario RPG

Kingdom Hearts 2
Grand Theft Auto 3
Final Fantasy 9
Legend of Zelda
God of War 3
LittleBigPlanet
Mario Kart DS
Warcraft 3
Final Fantasy 3/6

Chrono Trigger
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Metal Gear Solid 2
Super Smash Bros.
Red Dead Redemption
Super Mario Galaxy
Devil May Cry 3
Xenogears
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

I'm going to ignore any SFF...

Super Mario 64
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Super Mario Bros.
Kingdom Hearts
Final Fantasy 2/4
Final Fantasy 12
Dragon Age: Origins
Guitar Hero 3
Chrono Cross

I think SMB may have a great chance on Pokemon and I may be underestimating FFIV due to its performance in the previous contest. There's a large drop-off after that.

Resident Evil 4
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Mario Kart 64
Half-Life 2
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Bioshock
Shadow of the Colossus
Mass Effect

LA > MM IMO. I also feel that HL2 is a bit better than CoD4.

Goldeneye
Metal Gear Solid 4
Super Mario RPG
Resident Evil 2
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Halo 3
Uncharted 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Bioshock 2

This is probably an upset in the eyes of most people, but I consider MGS4 at its height during the last contest and it has had time to cool off while GE was able to look decent against FFVII despite MK64 being in the poll.

Kingdom Hearts 2
Final Fantasy 3/6
Legend of Zelda
Final Fantasy 9
Grand Theft Auto 3
Mario Kart DS
God of War 3
Warcraft 3
LittleBigPlanet

Nothing too special, though I think MKDS has a large range and I feel that some people may underestimate GTA3 because it came last in its poll (it's only slightly weaker than Diablo II)

Chrono Trigger
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Super Smash Bros.
Metal Gear Solid 2
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Super Mario Galaxy
Devil May Cry 3
Red Dead Redemption
Xenogears

SSB has a large range while Xenogears could place above RDR and maybe DMC3, personally I think those two games would flop.
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Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats
Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

Also what are you filling in your bracket when you have games like SM64 and CT in the vote-in?
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Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats
Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

1. Super Mario 64
2. Kingdom Hearts
3. Super Mario Bros.
4. Pokemon GSC
5. Final Fantasy 2/4
6. Dragon Age: Origins
7. Final Fantasy 12
8. Guitar Hero 3
9. Chrono Cross

I think KH is stronger than SMB1. I originally had CC at 7 before I double-checked and realized how horrible it did in the last Games contest, though oddly it wasn't that bad in the GotD poll.

1. Resident Evil 4
2. Legend of Zelda: MM
3. Legend of Zelda: LA
4. Call of Duty 4: MW
5. Mario Kart 64
6. Half-Life 2
7. Bioshock
8. Mass Effect
9. Shadow of the Colossus

Eh, I could see MW above LA, but I think the Zelda name would prevail there.

1. Metal Gear Solid 4
2. Goldeneye
3. Super Mario RPG
4. Resident Evil 2
5. Batman: Arkham Asylum
6. Castlevania: SotN
7. Halo 3
8. Bioshock 2
9. Uncharted 2

Had RE2 on the bottom until I double-checked and saw how well it did against Goldeneye/SMRPG. Also had SotN higher until I noticed how weak it was last contest. As unimpressive as Halo is here, I still expect it to be stronger than names like Bioshock and Uncharted.

1. Kingdom Hearts 2
2. Legend of Zelda
3. Final Fantasy 3/6
4. Grand Theft Auto 3
5. LittleBigPlanet
6. Final Fantasy 9
7. Warcraft 3
8. Mario Kart DS
9. God of War 3

This one is pretty cruel. Still undecided on first three, though KH2 is at RE4's level while FF6 will continue to drop like a rock. I expect LBP to have legit strength, and while I do think GoW3 will have solid strength, I don't know if I'd take it over Warcraft 3 or SMKDS. Really tough category.

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Metal Gear Solid 2
3. Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
4. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
5. Super Smash Bros.
6. Red Dead Redemption
7. Super Mario Galaxy
8. Devil May Cry 3
9. Xenogears

Another tough one. Wind Waker is one of the weaker Zelda's, though I think it could still beat out SA. Considering MW beat Galaxy fairly easily, SFF or no, I think RDR would have no problem doing the same. I don't think Dante's games would be nearly as strong as the character.
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Not Wylvane
Dr Football Factor'd.

I've made sure the one-seeds of each division are contenders for the top game from 09-10, 07-08, 05-06, 03-04, 01-02, 99-00, 97-98, and up-to-96; I care nothing about divisions by era after that. Because I didn't want you guys to completely decide the bracket based on vote-ins (damn, that'd be a lot of rankings and make for some lazy bracket-making on my behalf), I tried to add another three-four games into each division that I think would be good for the division. Hopefully this premise works.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

1) Super Mario 64
2) Kingdom Hearts
3) Pokemon GS
4) Super Mario Bros.
5) Final Fantasy XII
6) Final Fantasy IV
7) Chrono Cross
8) Dragon Age: Origins
9) Guitar Hero III

Zero faith in Guitar Hero III, zero faith in Dragon Age due to how (sadly) weak Mass Effect looked last contest. I can't contemplate Dragon Age > Mass Effect, sorry. Chrono Cross' performance in the GOTD poll should unfortunately amount to something.

1) Resident Evil 4
2) Mario Kart 64
3) Half-Life 2
4) Zelda: Majora's Mask
5) Zelda: Link's Awakening
6) Call of Duty 4
7) BioShock
8) Shadow of the Colossus
9) Mass Effect

Mass Effect was just sad last contest. SotC turned out not to be fodder but it can't face these heavyweights. HL2's strength depends on TP's, and I unfortunately have major faith in Twilight Princess being an elite. It also did much better on TP than CoD4 did on SSBB, and both big Wii games aren't far away from each other in strength. MK64 was benefitting from OFPUF in R1 IMO, but it was also being LFF'd, so watch out for Nintendo's original multiplayer masterpiece, eeps. MM > LA, and I'd still pick CoD4 over BS.

1) Metal Gear Solid 4
2) GoldenEye
3) Super Mario RPG
4) Resident Evil 2
5) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
6) Uncharted 2
7) Halo 3
8) Batman: Arkham Asylum
9) BioShock 2

No faith in Bioshock 2, no faith in Arkham Asylum after how badly Gears of War did last contest. No faith in Halo 3 due to Halo's tradition of disappointing, no faith in GE > MGS4 due to age.

1) Kingdom Hearts 2
2) Final Fantasy VI
3) The Legend of Zelda
4) Final Fantasy IX
5) God of War III
6) Grand Theft Auto III
7) Warcraft III
8) LittleBigPlanet
9) Mario Kart DS

No faith in the DS game, LBP is probably of decent strength but so should Warcraft III. GoWIII should be close to the original in strength.

1) Chrono Trigger
2) Super Smash Bros.
3) Zelda: The Wind Waker
4) Metal Gear Solid 2
5) GTA: San Andreas
6) Super Mario Galaxy
7) Red Dead Redemption
8) Devil May Cry 3
9) Xenogears

Die you silly JRPGs, unfortunately Smash Bros. should be a high midcarder. I think Mario Galaxy could edge out RDR 1on1.

My quick guesses so I can tally my thoughts in:


Super Mario 64
Kingdom Hearts
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Super Mario Bros.
Final Fantasy 12
Final Fantasy 2/4
Guitar Hero 3
Chrono Cross
Dragon Age: Origins

Resident Evil 4
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Mario Kart 64
Half-Life 2
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Bioshock
Shadow of the Colossus
Mass Effect

Metal Gear Solid 4
Goldeneye
Super Mario RPG
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Resident Evil 2
Halo 3
Bioshock 2
Uncharted 2

Kingdom Hearts 2
Final Fantasy 3/6
Legend of Zelda
Final Fantasy 9
Mario Kart DS
God of War 3
LittleBigPlanet
Grand Theft Auto 3
Warcraft 3

Chrono Trigger
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Super Smash Bros.
Metal Gear Solid 2
Super Mario Galaxy
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Devil May Cry 3
Red Dead Redemption
Xenogears
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

Also, get your voices in now, because I'm gonna wrap up the tallying and continue the bracket-making after rehearsal tonight.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

To add to your sample size...

Super Mario 64
Super Mario Bros.
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Kingdom Hearts
Final Fantasy 12
Final Fantasy 2/4
Chrono Cross
Guitar Hero 3
Dragon Age: Origins

Resident Evil 4
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Half-Life 2
Mario Kart 64
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Shadow of the Colossus
Bioshock
Mass Effect

Metal Gear Solid 4
Goldeneye
Super Mario RPG
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Resident Evil 2
Halo 3
Bioshock 2
Uncharted 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum


Kingdom Hearts 2
Legend of Zelda
Final Fantasy 3/6
Final Fantasy 9
Mario Kart DS
God of War 3
Grand Theft Auto 3
Warcraft 3
LittleBigPlanet

I know...I hate Nintendo/Square domination, as well.

Chrono Trigger
Super Smash Bros.
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Metal Gear Solid 2
Super Mario Galaxy
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
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Am I missing something, what's with the FFXII > FFIV hype?
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Even if it's FF12, I just don't want to trust old-FF any more than I have to against new-FF. I don't know if numbers are on my side though.
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It honestly depends on the strength of Twilight Princess, because FF12 looks very good if TP is an elite.

From: charmander6000 | #385
Am I missing something, what's with the FFXII > FFIV hype?

lol FF12
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Actually, now that you mention it:

FF12 - 36% on TP
FF4 - probably about 43% on Mario World

So I can't stomach TP being THAT much stronger than SMW (and it would be a digusting prospect for people like Ulti and me), but it's possible, and my estimates are rough. Wow, so going by this I guess there's no reason for FF12 > FF4. I'd estimate SMW to be worth 47% on TP (already somewhat disgusting for me, as SMW is quite literally one of my favorite games ever, and that opinion is coming from me playing through the game twice, once on GBA and once on Wii, and while I don't hate TP at all I don't think it's nearly as good as it's contest strength makes it out to be).

43% on Mario World? I don't buy that first round SMW/FF1 match at all. But I like FFIV > FFXII too, because no one seems to care about 12, and SMW should be a little stronger than TP.
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From: UltimaterializerX | #366
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Fixed. And apparently relevant.

We're not actually debating FF4 vs FF12, right? Everyone hates FF12. It would get roflstomped
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In a direct match-up, I'd take FF4 with ease. It easily gets the nostalgia votes, since it was a lot of people's first FF game, while FF12 is probably the weakest FF game here barring the original Japan-only games and 11. There aren't really many diehard FF12 fans on GameFAQs, and there's probably more that are outright against it. FF4's easily the more loved of the two in the fanbase.

It'd probably be close, but I wouldn't hesitate at all in picking FF4. Hell, I'd likely pick FF1 over 12.
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I don't think 1 vs 12 would be debatable, either.

Main series Final Fantasy games 12 can beat:

2
3
5
11

Three of those games were Japan-only upon initial release, and the other is an MMO no one likes. 12 is bottom of the barrel with the American audience.
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I was about to suggest that FFXII may have a chance at FFIX, but I seem to forgot how well it performed in round 1.
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Final Fantasy XII avoided being doubled by a game that is a potential elite. That *has* to count for something. Though I can definetely see it weakening by next contest.

So Ulti is going to suggest that Twilight Princess and Half-Life 2 are jokes for letting Final Fantasy XII get close, fine. That means that EVERYTHING in that quarter of the bracket is a joke because Twilight Princess did quite well against Brawl, which is a solid contender for #3 status. So Twilight Princess is definetely in the top 10 on GameFAQs, and Final Fantasy XII avoided being doubled by such a game, thus proving that it is a solid micarder.

I'm just trying to reason, and this is no analysis to get annoyed at.

HUH, who the heck seriously hypes FFXII>FFIV?
like geeeeeeeez
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Avoiding being doubled isn't that impressive. It's not like this is FFVII or OOT here- TP is a game that very likely isn't even top 10.
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Not top 10, would prolly struggle for top 15.
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Didn't Leonhart have some reasonable numbers for LoZ:TP to beat LoZ:LttP? Not that I'm taking that upset, but I could see it fighting for a top-ten position...and really, let's not treat it like the #3 game to the #15 game have a big gap in strength, so SMW and LoZ:TP aren't exactly far apart either.

I forgot FF2/4 did so well on SMW (and I'm not going to blame SMB3 much for that in hindsight), but it still irks me to support an old-FF game that's not 3/6 against any new-FF game. I'm probably wrong on that, but I still don't trust it.
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