GameFAQs Contests

Yeah, I remember Wylvane introducing the CrispyGamer bracket here. I forget what SMG beat first, then SotC beat it...it's not just a GameFAQs-thing. SMG just doesn't get close to the respect on the internet that its reviewers give, no matter the GotY-awards. It's almost like it's the new GTA-series or something.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

Super Mario Galaxy beat Boom Blox first.

To be fair though, that contest had:

-Grand Theft Auto III beating both Diablo II and Resident Evil 4, and then getting crushed by BioShock
-BioShock getting revenge on Portal the round prior
-Wind Waker representing the Zelda series, and losing to Psychonauts in the first round
-Final Fantasy XII representing its series, and losing to Lumines in the first round
-Metal Gear Solid 2 representing its series, and losing to Battlefield: 1942 in the first round
-Call of Duty 4 getting creamed by Left 4 Dead in the first round
-Deus Ex beating Kingdom Hearts in the vote-in
-God of War losing to Soulcalibur II in the first round
-Gears of War not flopping
-Halo in the final four
-World of Warcraft narrowly losing to Half-Life 2 in the finals, when it would've likely lost in the first round in a Board 8 exclusive contest (was facing Killer 7 there)

Even on Best Game of the Decade/Best Game Ever lists that are decided by voters Galaxy usually does well, but I'll sound much more annoying if I post the specifics, so I'll stop.

*don't get mad at me for saying everything*

So do you guys think Galaxy 2 would do better or worse than its predecessor in a contest setting?

My money's on better, but hey, the rave reviews don't mean ****. I mean, I could see picking San Andreas over GTA4 or MGS over MGS4. Not to mention Galaxy 2 would still be rather weak here anyway (which is a damn shame, as it's looking to be another stellar platformer).

If you ask me, this is Mario's best gen since perhaps the NES days. Two 3D platformers and a multiplayer 2D platformer, all of them stellar? **** you, GameFAQs.
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Not Wylvane
Dr Football Factor'd.

Blame Mario Sunshine and/or the passage of time. The problem with Galaxy is that it came out after what was essentially an 11-year gap between mainline Mario games, since Mario Sunshine was ignored/disliked. In those 11 years Mario went from the biggest thing in video games to a nostalgic throwback to earlier times, and platformers in general became far far less important to the industry.
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Dr. Football was not stopped by any of us, and won the Guru Contest.

I'd rather blame people for not appreciating Sunshine for being the great game that it is. Yeah, it's no 64 or Galaxy, but it's still a solid platformer worthy of the Mario title.

Time to see how worthy Galaxy 2 is!
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Not Wylvane
Dr Football Factor'd.

Oh ho ho, now the people of GameFAQs show their true colors about Mario Galaxy and sequel.

I think this best describes some of the faults I (and maybe some others) have with Mario Galaxy:

Super Mario Galaxy doesn’t quite live up to its reputation as one of the best reviewed games ever (with a 97 Metacritic score), and it’s easily dismissed as basically Super Mario 64 in three dimensions. However, it is the best Wii game ever released, and one of the most challenging platform games. As the title implies, the game takes Mario into space, where he galavants on spherical planetoids to earn stars, which adds the dizzying prospect of having objects rotating quickly, with the camera swinging around to adjust. Things get weirder when the laws of gravity are reversed, forcing the player to deal with being upside down and trying to navigate baddies.

The look of the game takes full advantage of the Wii’s power as well, getting Mario close to Pixar level, while the amount of objects are bumped up. The look of some of the levels were simply stunning, such as when Mario shoots off a planet like a missile to advance to the next level, er, planet. If the game had a fault, it was that even with the some of the new gameplay mechanics, there was still a sense of sameness to the game; Super Mario 64 was fresh and new, while Galaxy just redoes its predecessor with some better graphics and an extra Z axis; even the levels (lava, ice, and so on) were recycled. Arguably, SM64 was and still is a better game.

Regardless, Galaxy represented a triumphant return by a platformer Mario to the console after such titles as Super Mario Sunshine and Luigi’s Mansion, which gamers and critics alike ate up like a chocolate-covered mushroom.

-Game Stooge

I'd still give it a 10/10 on a scale of 0.5, had a lot of fun playing it last week or so, but yeah, games like BioShock, Portal, and Call of Duty 4 are arguably making more headway in their respective genres. I'd actually vote for all three of them over Mario Galaxy now because of that.

*also, I don't know how to italicize*

From: Not_Wylvane | #155
I'd rather blame people for not appreciating Sunshine for being the great game that it is. Yeah, it's no 64 or Galaxy, but it's still a solid platformer worthy of the Mario title.

Bingo. It was one thing for it not to be appreciated like SM64 or SMG, because it shouldn't be...but I remember it being beaten by Animal Crossing twice. AC's fun, but SMS was completely screwed over by perception.

To think, that game still allowed Mario to beat Cloud.....
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

People have a certain standard when it comes to main Mario games. Had SMS been a game with different characters it would probably have gotten more love.
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Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats
Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

I do think SMG2 will be better-received here though, mainly because there's not a monster game called Super Smash Bros. Brawl looming over it. Mario's also been fighting hard for his reputation back this generation, so I think it's going to have better longer-lasting momentum in that regard.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

Understandable, and really, I think it's like that with the big three series here. It's really easy to be disappointed by a still-good game from Mario, LoZ, or FF.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

SMG sold around 9 million worldwide, so I think this is one of those cases of GameFAQs being out of the loop.

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Nintendo has also stopped milking the Mario series now that they have the Wii series so that may be good for him in the future.
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Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats
Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

From: HaRRicH | #160
Understandable, and really, I think it's like that with the big three series here. It's really easy to be disappointed by a still-good game from Mario, LoZ, or FF.

See also: Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Final Fantasy XII.

Playing Galaxy 2, and it pretty much is Galaxy 1 with Yoshi so far. Which is fine with me! Can't wait to actually get a bit into the game and try out the new power-ups.
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Not Wylvane
Dr Football Factor'd.

LoZ:TP is pretty damn strong here though. It's done well in both GotD-polls, wasn't far behind SSBB in BGE2, and is arguably the most dominant GotY-winner we've ever had (it had the most dominant overall-GotY poll ever here, though RE4 had a better final-GotY poll the year before...but gaming in 2006 was also significantly bigger than gaming in 2005). It gets its hates and disappointed some people (including me), but it's nothing like what happened to LoZ:WW or FF12. Heck, LoZ:TP's murdered both of them in past polls.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

I don't know if I'd say that Wind Waker is a bomb or anything in terms of contest appearances. As far as we can tell it was pretty strong in 2004, and we've never seen it in a situation since then where it's not at the ass end of SFF.
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"Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka
Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest!

Suppose we get a 128 1v1 games contest later this year, with no limits on which generation the games nominated come from.

How many Mario games make the bracket?

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Final Fantasy XIII review: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/review/R140434.html
You're pretty good, Dr_Football.

On other sites Wind Waker would likely, at worst, put like 45% on Melee, and at best, would likely crush it. Considering this is ZeldaFAQs...whatever.

You italicise like this, without the spaces: < i > text < /i >

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Final Fantasy XIII review: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/review/R140434.html
You're pretty good, Dr_Football.

I would predict that 7 Mario games would make it:
SMB1
SMB3
SMW
SMW2
SM64
Galaxy
Galaxy 2

Sunshine might have a shot, but I doubt it. I have my doubts about SMW2 as well, since it really only made it in 2009 because of Guru noms. Still, it did make it into one of the toughest divisions, so I guess it has that going for it.
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"Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka
Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest!

SMRPG is surely a lock, no? I'd put money on one of the SMK games too.

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Final Fantasy XIII review: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/review/R140434.html
You're pretty good, Dr_Football.

Pleases me to see Galaxy 2 bombing. 1 was not that good.
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Hey, it's that dog!

Yes it was. Though I'd still vote for 11 other games from this decade over it.

Playing through the second time it didn't quite feel like total ace though.

LoZ:WW isn't a weakling or anything, and neither is FF12 for that matter...but they're not that impressive, and probably never have been.


Also, really, LoZ:WW didn't look that good in 2004 after considering what last year showed us. LoZ:WW's half-division from 2004 had Halo, Starcraft, KH, Soul Calibur, Metroid Prime, and Half-Life. We saw last year that Halo's entire series was mediocre here, Soul Calibur didn't beat Xenogears by much despite FF8 in the poll, MP was arguably the weakest 3D-Nintendo game in the bracket, HL didn't exactly beat Chrono Cross comfortably considering FF9 was in the poll, and Starcraft's run in 2009 showed us nearly everything we saw in 2004 from it was over-hyped. Only KH came out looking good in this five-year comparison, and part of that's because it looked bad in 2004.

Let's not go the Slowflake-route -- we've never seen a reason aside from ZELDAFEAR that LoZ:WW would have beaten SSBM. In fact, SSBM is going to be the Gamecube's top game at most places; only RE4 and MP are really going to interfere with its Gamecube-dominance. SSBM won its division in 2004 despite more attempted cheating from Starcraft than there was against LoZ:WW, it cracked LoZ:WW's skull in the Top 100 List (aw yeah), and we saw SSBM cleanly beat LoZ:WW twice with great ease last year. There's no longer any reason to think LoZ:WW would have ever been that close to SSBM here.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

FF12 being impressive depends upon how strong Twilight Princess and Half-Life 2 are. I believe charmander's stats show FF12 being a solid/high midcarder.

Suppose we get a 128 1v1 games contest later this year, with no limits on which generation the games nominated come from.

How many Mario games make the bracket?

Well last year we had 10 Mario games...

Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Mario World
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario RPG
Mario Kart 64
Super Mario 64
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Paper Mario
Super Mario Galaxy

I feel that none of them made the bracket due to the generation split and all have a great chance at returning. Yoshi's Island may struggle to return since it was a guru nomination while games like Paper Mario and Super Mario Kart may miss out due to nomination fluctuations.

Other games that have a chance, ranked in order of chance...

Super Mario Galaxy 2
Super Mario Sunshine
New Super Mario Bros Wii
New Super Mario Bros
Luigi's Mansion
Mario Kart Wii
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Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats
Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

Also going by the hypothetical 1v1 bracket for last year's contest here are the seedings each Mario game received:

Super Mario Bros. - 2
Super Mario 3 - 1
Super Mario World - 3
Super Mario Kart - 12
Yoshi's Island - 10
Super Mario RPG - 5
Super Mario 64 - 3
Mario Kart 64 - 8
Paper Mario - 13
Super Mario Galaxy - 5

Going by the seeding each one should've had in its respective division going by charmander's stats:

Super Mario Bros. - 1
Super Mario 3 - 2
Super Mario World - 1
Super Mario Kart - 6
Yoshi's Island - 10
Super Mario RPG - 5
Super Mario 64 - 2
Mario Kart 64 - 6
Paper Mario - 14
Super Mario Galaxy - 9

Of course, next thing you know we see Super Mario Galaxy facing World of Warcraft next contest, everybody picks WoW to win, and then Galaxy wins easily.

Wind Waker would not put 45% on Melee anywhere except for Zelda fan sites or pro-Brawl anti-Melee sites (not sure if there's any of these).
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Dr. Football was not stopped by any of us, and won the Guru Contest.

I'm not too sure about that. Melee won over WW 65/35 so it isn't a stretch to think that WW would break 40% indirectly. I feel that GameFAQs is more pro-Melee compare to other sites. IMO WW may fall short, but the possibility is there.
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Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats
Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

In those 11 years Mario went from the biggest thing in video games to a nostalgic throwback to earlier times, and platformers in general became far far less important to the industry.

I don't think those 11 years had anything to do with it. Mario's the most popular he's been since the NES / SNES days with most people -- it's the "hardcore" gamers that aren't as into the games. But the "hardcore" audience these days is, well, yeah. They're into a completely different set of games.

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one generation plants the trees, another enjoys the shade

I know I said this somewhere, but there were some critics who gave Melee low scores and gave Brawl a high score. Edge, for instance, gave Melee a 6/10 and Brawl a 9/10, because they said the former was too fast-paced (among other things), a "problem" which did not appear in Brawl. Also Melee's lowest rating is a 5/10 while Brawl's lowest is a 7/10. Also Brawl may be more mainstream because it was actually hyped somewhat and it was on the more mainstream system. Though Melee was the one that got in the CrispyGamer contest.

Has there been a major website/publication/poll anywhere that's compared Melee to Brawl yet? I mean, dammit, it's time we settle this.

Brawl should win it, don't get me wrong, but it's still time to settle it at least somewhere...preferably here.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

Doing a google search on "Melee vs. Brawl" does not bring any such thing up.

So, I remember Albion getting banned awhile back on two or three accounts...is his KOS now or something? I've not seen him around in a while.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

Speaking of missing users, where's Leon?
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Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats
Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

From: charmander6000 | #176
Speaking of missing users, where's Leon?

I remember Ulti got a hold of him through his mod connections, and found out Leon lost internet from being poor or something.
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The day Dr. Footballl blessed us with his presence was the greatest day of our lives
But for him, it was Tuesday

If that's the case, I'm glad Leon is alive and not glad he's not here for the moment.
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Dr. Football was not stopped by any of us, and won the Guru Contest.

Well THIS is a depressing poll. I went with the middle option
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"You brought your *****, to the waffle hut?"

I blame the unhappiness on Lost being over!
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Not Wylvane
Dr Football Factor'd.

More like 24 being over.

It's always sad when a bunch of successful shows end during the same season/few months apart.

An era of television is over.
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Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats
Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru.

Hey Ulti
"New" Fire Emblem game announced. (Remake of FE3, actually)
It'll probably be terrible, but at least they haven't given up the series I guess.
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http://s10.zetaboards.com/GHEB

Well THIS is a depressing poll. I went with the middle option

I picked "Sure, I'm feeling pretty good" and it turns out that it's winning in the US. If it wins worldwide here, it's because of the US. And well, "Sure, I'm feeling pretty good" is using the ASV to pull that comeback.
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ!

more emos than Genki Girls, awwww no.
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Nipaa~

We need a new Super Mario-poll sometime...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1181

...this was early '03, the last one we had. Considering SMW beat SMB3 two out of three times in BGE2 while SMG/SMG2 and NSMB/NSMBW have been released since then, it'd be nice to have it redone sometime.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

...of course, now I check my Feedback and that suggestion's already Read.

Bah.
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Nominate EPONA for Character Battle 9:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54225515

From: MagusMuddlefoot | #190
Hey Ulti
"New" Fire Emblem game announced. (Remake of FE3, actually)
It'll probably be terrible, but at least they haven't given up the series I guess.

Saw. Didn't they remake that game already?
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A Very Obvious Match: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2122

Not quite.

FE3 is divided into two "Books". Book 1 was a remake of FE1. Book 2 was a sequel to Book 1.
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon on DS was a remake of FE1 but didn't include any of FE3 Book 1's particular tweaks, instead adding its own as well as a few later series fixtures.

Judging by the info they're released so far and common sense, they're probably only remaking Book 2 for the new game. Shadow Dragon was already a remake of the same game as FE3 Book 1, so it seems unlikely they'd make the effort. Though the idea of them doing a remake of a remake of a game on the same system where a remake of the same original game already existed is amusing.
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http://s10.zetaboards.com/GHEB

...of course, now I check my Feedback and that suggestion's already Read.

Did that suggestion used to be Filed at one point in time?
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ!

From: MagusMuddlefoot | #196
Not quite.

FE3 is divided into two "Books". Book 1 was a remake of FE1. Book 2 was a sequel to Book 1.
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon on DS was a remake of FE1 but didn't include any of FE3 Book 1's particular tweaks, instead adding its own as well as a few later series fixtures.

Judging by the info they're released so far and common sense, they're probably only remaking Book 2 for the new game. Shadow Dragon was already a remake of the same game as FE3 Book 1, so it seems unlikely they'd make the effort. Though the idea of them doing a remake of a remake of a game on the same system where a remake of the same original game already existed is amusing.

Yeah you lost me.
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Oh well. >_>
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http://s10.zetaboards.com/GHEB

So FE3 is two games in one, basically. First half is a remake of FE1. Second half is a whole new game, and basically a sequel to FE1. We'll call it FE 3.5.

Shadow Dragon was a remake of FE3's first half, which was a remake of FE1. That FE that was announced yesterday is basically a remake of FE 3.5?
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