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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 897

MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/28/2010 8:33:22 PM | message detail
oung Link, Dr. Mario, Baby Mario, Were-Sonic, Were-Link, and Paper Mario are all the same character as their originals and thus shouldn't be eligible. Toon Link is iffy since Bacon treats all the Links as the same, though in reality he should be a different entity considering how Mega Man and X are separate. Young Link, however, is the younger form of Adult Link, so they're still the same character since Young Link only really appears in OoT and MM. Dark Link, Dark Samus, Megaman.exe, and Volnutt are all distinct characters, so they should be eligible. As for Dracula, I'm all for him making it considering his Castlevania identity is distinct from traditional Dracula. As has been mentioned, his game form is as distinct as Diablo's and Ama's.


The think about Toon and Young Link too is that those aren't really accurate ways to categorize them. There's like a bunch of Links in the series... I think there's at least two Links that are theoretically different entities, but both are represented graphically as Toon Link. Twilight Princess Link is a different Link from Ocarina of Time Link, but both TP Link and the adult Link from OoT would be adult Link, whereas Young Link would also be the guy from OoT, and the one from the original Zelda and LttP too I think because they're supposed to be more kid than teen.

the Link's and their timelines and stuff just aren't clearly defined enough to separate into different entrants, unlike Mega Man where each different Mega Man is clearly a different robot in a different time period and there's no gray area.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/28/2010 8:34:39 PM | message detail
What about Diablo, though? That one's even trickier because his own series is based around him, much like how Castlevania is based around Dracula, and both offer similar-yet-distinctly-different forms of the characters they're based on.

I really think if Diablo can get in, then Dracula deserves to be in as well. It's not like I'd pick Dracula to be any higher than a high mid-carder, though I think he could be stronger than Alucard.

Hmmm... Dracula vs Alucard, anyone?
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vcharon | Posted 3/28/2010 8:36:07 PM | message detail
Yeah, some of that stuff is not worth asking about. Dark Link and Dracula is all we need to know, I highly agree.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 8:36:45 PM | message detail
Sent a nice big ticket to Bacon explaining the Dracula/Ammy thing and the Dark Link/MegaMan.exe thing.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/28/2010 8:38:47 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #301
The think about Toon and Young Link too is that those aren't really accurate ways to categorize them. There's like a bunch of Links in the series... I think there's at least two Links that are theoretically different entities, but both are represented graphically as Toon Link. Twilight Princess Link is a different Link from Ocarina of Time Link, but both TP Link and the adult Link from OoT would be adult Link, whereas Young Link would also be the guy from OoT, and the one from the original Zelda and LttP too I think because they're supposed to be more kid than teen.

the Link's and their timelines and stuff just aren't clearly defined enough to separate into different entrants, unlike Mega Man where each different Mega Man is clearly a different robot in a different time period and there's no gray area.


I agree with you there. The different Links are one huge cluster**** to the point where it's debatable what form of Link is even in a certain game. I mean, is Oracle Link the same as Zelda 1 Link, Zelda 2 Link, LttP/LA Link, OoT/MM Link, WW/PH Link, MC/FSA Link, TP Link, or none of the above? There's too many distinct Links for his separation to make sense, while each Mega Man iteration has his own series (Classic, X, Legends, EXE, etc).

Technically, each Link should be nominated separately, but that's not going to happen. Now that I think about it, is Link the only contest character this applies to? Besides Zelda and Tingle of course.
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vcharon | Posted 3/28/2010 8:40:13 PM | message detail
Link is Link, the end. That's my opinion of it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/28/2010 8:43:18 PM | message detail
We could see an all-Link final four! Or perhaps the voters would rally around someone to prevent this from happening: Predict this elite eight:

OOT Link
Mario

LTTP Link
Sephiroth

WW Link
Solid Snake

TP Link
Cloud Strife
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/28/2010 8:43:24 PM | message detail
Technically, each Link should be nominated separately, but that's not going to happen. Now that I think about it, is Link the only contest character this applies to? Besides Zelda and Tingle of course.

Yeah, I think so... although I can't really think of anyone else it could apply to. The Zelda series is a unique situation. KH incarnations of FF characters are probably technically different because they're in a different canon with different origins and stuff, but having Cloud and KH Cloud would just be terrible.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 8:43:56 PM | message detail
Different Links is stretching it, but I wouldn't mind Dracula and Dark Link getting in. It'd make things more interesting at the least.

Gordon Freeman vs. Dracula, who ya got?
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/28/2010 8:45:46 PM | message detail
My prediction:

OOT Link
LTTP Link
Solid Snake
Cloud Strife

OOT Link
Cloud Strife

Cloud Strife (LINK ALWAYS WINS)
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/28/2010 8:45:55 PM | message detail
Gordon Freeman vs. Dracula, who ya got?


Oh Dracula, for sure... since I'd take Alucard for sure, and Dracula should at least be on his level given his prominence in like every Castlevania and people voting based off the other Dracula incarnations too.

I guess that's the difference with Dracula, maybe. I doubt Ammy gets many votes based off the Japanese goddess stuff, but Dracula could get a lot of votes based off the book or whatever else.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/28/2010 8:46:09 PM | message detail
Don't forget FFT Cloud. Is Dissidia Cloud also different?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 8:46:59 PM | message detail
Not to mention that Hollywood is working on a remake of Dracula thanks to the success of the Wolfman movie. What if his match synced up with a new movie?
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/28/2010 8:47:23 PM | message detail
Don't forget FFT Cloud. Is Dissidia Cloud also different?

I'm not clear on what the deal with FFT Cloud is, but Dissidia is supposed to be everyone being like... ripped out of their own universes with their backstories intact, I think. All the characters already have their established hero/villain relationships and stuff.
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vcharon | Posted 3/28/2010 8:47:32 PM | message detail
I sort of wish he'd had never allowed MMX honestly. I feel differently towards X since he really is a totally different character and is intended to be... but yeah.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 8:47:52 PM | message detail
wait

guys

if Dracula gets in

Twilight votes
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/28/2010 8:48:07 PM | message detail
How many votes does Diablo get just for being the devil?

I can't imagine a lot! Then again, when people here see Diablo, they probably think of his series first and foremost. When people here see Dracula, they may not immediately think of Castlevania, let alone other games that Dracula is in!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/28/2010 8:49:03 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #316
wait

guys

if Dracula gets in

Twilight votes


That would be scary if GameFAQs actually had girls on this site!
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vcharon | Posted 3/28/2010 8:49:39 PM | message detail
I'm probably in the minority, but Judgment Dracula is really cool: http://img.neoseeker.com/ca/castlevania_judgment_conceptart_3nsIa.jpg
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/28/2010 8:52:25 PM | message detail
I can't imagine a lot! Then again, when people here see Diablo, they probably think of his series first and foremost. When people here see Dracula, they may not immediately think of Castlevania, let alone other games that Dracula is in!

Right... with Diablo, my initial association is his games... with Dracula, my immediate association isn't Castlevania.

I dunno, I'd be interested to see Dracula get in, and I think he's borderline enough that it doesn't open up some sort of floodgates for the Batmen of the world to get in.
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Xeybozn | Posted 3/28/2010 8:54:40 PM | message detail
I can't imagine a lot! Then again, when people here see Diablo, they probably think of his series first and foremost. When people here see Dracula, they may not immediately think of Castlevania, let alone other games that Dracula is in!

Would it be fair if the poll option listed him as "Dracula (Castlevania)"? I think that should fix the problem well enough to let him in.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/28/2010 8:55:58 PM | message detail
When people mention Diablo I don't think about the game unless I am on a gaming site, same with Dracula.

Especially when the pictures will only be of the Castlevania version.
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vcharon | Posted 3/28/2010 8:56:28 PM | message detail
I don't think it's fair to hold Dracula responsible because the character he's based on is a lot more readily known than the ones Diablo and Ammy are based on.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/28/2010 8:56:53 PM | message detail
oh, weird, I didn't remember this, but I was just doing a little research

big Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow spoilers




Soma is a reincarnation of Dracula. Technically we've already had Dracula in this contest.




SPOILERS OVER YAY



also, if Drac's allowed, maybe we can get Death or The Creature in as well
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/28/2010 8:58:26 PM | message detail
Will people know "The Creature" is Frankenstein, match picture be damned?
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PiGuy96 | Posted 3/28/2010 9:02:14 PM | message detail
My immediate association for Dracula is Castlevania, and I've read Bram Stroker's Dracula!

I'm also a big Castlevania fan but whatever
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/28/2010 9:02:23 PM | message detail
I always found it weird that Death always served as Dracula's underling and shows up as a boss.

Then again, Death/The Grim Reaper shows up anywhere. I'd rather nominate the Conker version myself!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 9:02:41 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #325
Will people know "The Creature" is Frankenstein, match picture be damned?


Hmmm...

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081025191425/castlevania/images/thumb/1/1d/Por_pic_35.jpg/750px-Por_pic_35.jpg
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 9:04:33 PM | message detail
also this

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080227201133/castlevania/images/thumb/f/fc/SotN_Death.jpg/450px-SotN_Death.jpg
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070129224541/castlevania/images/0/06/Death-COTM.jpg

I'd vote for that
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/28/2010 9:04:37 PM | message detail
Will people know "The Creature" is Frankenstein, match picture be damned?

He's pretty blatantly Frankenstein's monster in all of his appearances. If they've seen anything Frankenstein themed... or the Munsters... they should recognize him

unless he got this pic

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/File:131.png

what the hell is that
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/28/2010 9:06:37 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #327
I'd rather nominate the Conker version myself!


Let's be friends.


Also, let's say Dracula in a match looks like...oh, I don't know, this:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1011/85700845.png

What kind of hit is his strength going to take?
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/28/2010 9:06:40 PM | message detail
I'd rather nominate that giant ball of corpses, to be honest.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 9:06:56 PM | message detail
I just found out that Alucard's real name is "Adrian Farenheights Tepes." How much strength would he lose if that was the name Bacon used on the poll?

Plus his concept art for that unreleased Castlevania anime:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090622075107/castlevania/images/7/7b/Animated_Dracula%27s_Curse_Alucard.JPG

oh mans
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/28/2010 9:08:26 PM | message detail
How much of a boost would Luigi get if his name was "Luigi Mario" in the poll?

Probably the same amount that Danta and Ezio de la Hoya hurt their characters!
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/28/2010 9:10:44 PM | message detail
^LOL Symphony of the Night did Frankenstein wrong.

We gotta use the buff, Arnold Schwarzenegger version from Rondo of Blood/Portrait of Ruin

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9496/cvporthecreature.png
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/28/2010 9:11:51 PM | message detail
By the way, age-poll today.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/28/2010 9:12:20 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #331
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1011/85700845.png


I always liked this one form quite a lot. Dracula is basically chillin' there, while his demonic crazy-ass chair does all the work.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 9:13:58 PM | message detail
We need to get Richter in over Simon. Dude is badass:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/common/skins/common/blank.gif/cb1

check the swagger
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/28/2010 9:14:05 PM | message detail
thank god the contest is over so we can find out how much we've all aged since 08/26/09.

if I don't tell someone how old I am every 6 or so months, I might forget.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/28/2010 9:15:03 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #339
thank god the contest is over so we can find out how much we've all aged since 08/26/09.

if I don't tell someone how old I am every 6 or so months, I might forget.


Its a shame we get polls like this instead of polls that actually matter... like FFXIII related polls. We need to know the character rankings and how XIII compares to the rest of the series!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2010 9:17:00 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #339
thank god the contest is over so we can find out how much we've all aged since 08/26/09.

if I don't tell someone how old I am every 6 or so months, I might forget.


Yeah, polls like this tick me off. Quit wasting my time, and ask me if I have a DS/PSP/PS3/360/Wii/Gaming-Quality PC/SNES/NES/Jaguar/Dreamcast because I need to answer this question every two months.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 9:17:17 PM | message detail
somebody go tweet bacon to make with the FFXIII polls
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/28/2010 9:17:24 PM | message detail
It might be better that we don't know. It'll add to the debate when the next contest comes around.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/28/2010 9:17:41 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #342
somebody go tweet bacon to make with the FFXIII polls


I sent in a feedback that was read about those polls.. dunno if he cares though
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2010 9:18:48 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #343
It might be better that we don't know. It'll add to the debate when the next contest comes around.


Even after the turd FFXII laid, we all still hyped up Balthier (or at least we didn't expect him to be so bad as to lose to Ada Wong anyway).

I just want to know if it's worth my effort to nominate FFXIII characters besides Lightning and Sazh.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/28/2010 9:19:55 PM | message detail
A FFXIII poll might tell us nothing, those types of polls are one big SFF-fest.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/28/2010 9:20:01 PM | message detail
Snow and Vanille can have some strength. So can Fang maybe. She's just Auron without a wang.

lol hope
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/28/2010 9:20:22 PM | message detail
OH MY GOD, AGE POLL!

Trend chart from last year's age poll:

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/729/agepolltrends.png

This time around, 14-17 starts out this poll even worse than last time. And that was sometime in September of last year. I can't see 14-17 outright winning the ASV over 21-25 if it couldn't do it last year.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/28/2010 9:21:42 PM | message detail
It would at least give us some idea of who we should focus our nominations on. Snow, Vanille and Sazh are characters that either could be great because they're likable or terrible because voters find them too obnoxious or too black.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/28/2010 9:22:41 PM | message detail
Luster was updating the uoty channel, he's got the updates for our age poll today no problem
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