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Otacon has absolutely no appeal to anybody but diehard MGS fans. He's a frikking nerd. Gray Fox will be stronger than him simply based on character design.
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Demyx is better than Axel.

See lame comments like that are why Otacon will bomb but seriously yeah let's do it rally time
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Well The Boss was in only one game and she's almost as strong as Ocelot. Of course comparing Gray Fox to The Boss is not the greatest idea. Still at least Otacon has potential at being strong (relatively speaking) unlike Fox/Mantis/Wolf
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I love Otacon but if you think he'd be stronger on GameFAQS than Gray Fox or even Psycho Mantis, you're kidding yourself.
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Demyx is better than Axel.

I just can't fathom him being weaker than Gray Fox

There are people who prefer Otacon to Gray Fox? Seriously?

Of course, Gray Fox would be super pic dependent. Give him a Null pic from MPO and he's toast. And the sprite round? Hoo boy. Gray Fox thrives on being the cyborg ninja.

it's Otacon. How can you hate the guy?

Incest plotline, anybody?
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And it doesn't really matter that Gray Fox and Mantis are really primarily only in MGS1. They're two of the most well-known and loved characters from that game. Anyone who played MGS1 knows and probably really likes those guys. I don't know if you could say the same for Otacon.
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I don't care who we pick as long as we all go for one. I'm just saying that Otacon has a wider area of where he can place compare with Fox/Mantis.
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I wouldn't be opposed to Otacon. I don't think his range is that great, and I think his bombing potential is even higher than Fox or Mantis. I'd be pretty surprised if either of those two turned out to be bad fodder. Not so much with Otacon.
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What Pokemon gym leader would be most powerful in a contest setting? Brock, Misty, Giovanni...?
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Probably Misty.
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Where would Brock and Misty's strength fall compared to Red? What about actual Pokemon?
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Either Brock or Misty, I'm leaning towards Brock right now.
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Where would Brock and Misty's strength fall compared to Red? What about actual Pokemon?

Depends on how much of a factor you think the anime plays.
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screw Brock and Misty

must have Professor Oak.
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From: MoogleKupo141 | #264
screw Brock and Misty

must have Professor Oak.

What? She got an STD?

Looks like another case of...

Poison Oak.

YEEEEAH!
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I think Brock and Misty would trump Red due to the name factor they get thanks to the anime.
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From: ZenOfThunder | #259
What Pokemon gym leader would be most powerful in a contest setting? Brock, Misty, Giovanni...?

Misty, cuz I'd tap dat.
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I think Brock and Misty might have some decent strength. Not as much as, say, Squirtle, but I'd like to see them in a contest setting. Who knows? Brock would definitely be stronger than someone like Jecht. I think...
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Yeah I agree that we should keep focus on Squirtle than Brock/Misty.
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nooooo

keep the focus on Oak, damn it

he's the first person you see in Pokemon. He's in every game. He's in the anime. He came when he heard that you beat the Elite Four!
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Having never followed the anime, I don't see any non-playable trainers being worth much. Red's not particularly strong and he's the lead trainer in the biggest Pokemon-game with SSBB to back him up. There are eight major opposing trainers per Pokemon game -- each focusing of specific abilities -- and the Pokemon games follow similar formulas, right? It sounds to me that picking a Pokemon Trainer would be a lot like picking a Robot Master from the Mega Man series in that regard.

I'm just saying, either don't do it or get Pharaoh Man in too.
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Having never followed the anime, I don't see any non-playable trainers being worth much. Red's not particularly strong and he's the lead trainer in the biggest Pokemon-game with SSBB to back him up. There are eight major opposing trainers per Pokemon game -- each focusing of specific abilities -- and the Pokemon games follow similar formulas, right? It sounds to me that picking a Pokemon Trainer would be a lot like picking a Robot Master from the Mega Man series in that regard.

I'm just saying, either don't do it or get Pharaoh Man in too.

Brock and Misty have been gym leaders in R/B/Y, G/S/C, and their remakes, as well as being main characters during the early seasons of the anime which a lot of the nostalgia Missingno/Charizard type voters probably watched. They're in a different league from someone like... Blaine (which is too bad, 'cause Blaine is super rad). And given that they actually have some degree of personality unlike Red, they may actually do not badly. I know I'd vote for Brock in a lot of situations.

I'd vote for Professor Oak in more situations, though.

Oak > Brock > Misty > Giovanni > Lance > Blue > all the other potential Pokemon humans, I think. The other R/B/Y gym leaders would be fodder, but probably uh... Laharl fodder moreso than Guybrush fodder, at least... and any other gen's leaders would be total jokes. The other gen's main characters would suck hard too... and the only other relevant humans in the series who I could see doing sort of ok are Jessie and James, but they'd be ineligible.
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Brock and Misty were as big as Ash in the anime and were not hated.
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Oak doesn't have enough popularity to defeat Brock/Misty. Heck Pokemon Trainer Blue has a good chance at winning over him.
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I'm not seeing any chance Oak can outperform the big name trainers, like at all.
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From: vcharon | #177
Dracula needs to take precedence over Richter. Now that we have seen Amaterasu as a regular contender here, I see absolutely no reason why Dracula would be barred from the contest. Both of the characters are based on myths and legends.

I doubt Dracula is eligible. It would be like letting Satan in. Then you'd have to let Jesus in.
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From: UltimaterializerX | #276
I doubt Dracula is eligible. It would be like letting Satan in. Then you'd have to let Jesus in.

Diablo's made it in...that's close enough, right?
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Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats!

Dracula is different enough in Castlevania. Unless there's a game about Satan that I don't know about.
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Diablo and Amaterasu are deities in religions before they were in a game. As long as we're nominating Dracula from Castlevania, there shouldn't be an issue.

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Oak doesn't have enough popularity to defeat Brock/Misty. Heck Pokemon Trainer Blue has a good chance at winning over him.

damn you all Oak is the best ;_;

fine

whatever

let's go with Brock, then.
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From: charmander6000 | #278
Dracula is different enough in Castlevania. Unless there's a game about Satan that I don't know about.

Satan is a recurring important character in the Shin Megami Tensei series.

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Letting Castlevania's Dracula in would be like letting Okami's Amaterasu in, and that doesn't seem to be a problem.
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Dracula seems like one of those guys someone should send in a feedback ticket about... and maybe ask about Dark Link too. Feedback ticket saved us the trouble of nominating Sheik.
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Alright, I'll send the ticket in AND Twitter it to Bacon if you guys give me reasons Dracula should be let in.
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From: UltimaterializerX | #276
I doubt Dracula is eligible. It would be like letting Satan in. Then you'd have to let Jesus in.

Amaterasu is allowed in and the character and game are based on Japanese mythology. Diablo borrows his name and appear from lore as well.
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Unless I'm forgetting something, Satan is only plot-important in SMTII, which nobody besides me has played. Lucifer is the one doing the moving and shaking in the series most of the time.
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Mustache...and Football...

Let's make a list of characters to ask about:

Toon Link
Young Link
Dark Link
Dark Samus
Dr. Mario
Baby Mario
Dracula
Megaman.exe

Who else?
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From: ZenOfThunder | #284
Alright, I'll send the ticket in AND Twitter it to Bacon if you guys give me reasons Dracula should be let in.

Why shouldn't he? How's he any different from Amaterasu. He's not Bram Stoker's Dracula because... yeah obviously Konami would not be allowed to throw him around so freely. He's obviously based on Dracula the vampire, but isn't Ammy based on Amaterasu the sun goddess too? That's not a video game origin.

Plus, Dracula in Castlevania has different origins than Vlad Tepes does. Lament of Innocence confirmed and retconned that as a human Dracula's name was Mathias Cronqvist.
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Alright, I'll send the ticket in AND Twitter it to Bacon if you guys give me reasons Dracula should be let in.

Diablo and Amaterasu being allowed seems like reason enough to believe Dracula could be eligible. Dracula is a different character depending on the source... it's all based off the same sort of template, but the way there are so many different Draculas in different mediums makes it seem like they could all qualify as their own individual characters. Bram Stoker's Dracula is different from Marvel Comics' Dracula is different from Buffy the Vampire Slayer's Dracula is different from Castlevania's Dracula... etc... even if they're similar, they're different enough to the degree of Diablo or Amaterasu from their basises.

or not

but it couldn't hurt to ask
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FYI from what I remember Bram Stoker's Dracula is considered to be part of the Castlevania chronology, interestingly enough.

Alright, I'll send the ticket in AND Twitter it to Bacon if you guys give me reasons Dracula should be let in.

He may have decent strength. Being the main villain of a large series helps his case. Also we're running out of decent characters to nominate.
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Well, I asked my girlfriend who is like the epitome of 90s kid that loved Pokemon (games and show), and she said she's easily vote for Brock and Misty over Red, but not Professor Oak. She also says she's fairly sure that most people would vote like that just because of the show. And that Giovanni is ugly.
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From: LinkMarioSamus | #290
FYI from what I remember Bram Stoker's Dracula is considered to be part of the Castlevania chronology, interestingly enough.

Lament of Innocence rewrote a lot of Dracula's backstory, and chronologically it is the first game in the series.
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Let's make a list of characters to ask about:

Toon Link
Young Link
Dark Link
Dark Samus
Dr. Mario
Baby Mario
Dracula
Megaman.exe

Who else?


I don't think Toon/Young Links, Dr/Baby Marios or Megaman.exe need to be asked about. All the Links have been merged together for so long, that I don't think he would break tradition and open the floodgates for even more Links to trample the bracket... Dr. and Baby Mario are just Mario in a different outfit and Mario when he was a baby, so they're totally the same character... and Megaman.exe should actually be eligible given Mega Man / X precedent.
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From: HaRRicH | #287
Let's make a list of characters to ask about:

Toon Link
Young Link
Dark Link
Dark Samus
Dr. Mario
Baby Mario
Dracula
Megaman.exe

Who else?

Mega Man Volnutt
Were-Sonic
Were-Link
Paper Mario
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Toon Link
Young Link
Dark Link
Dark Samus
Dr. Mario
Baby Mario
Dracula
Megaman.exe

Who else?


Mega Man Volnutt
Were-Sonic
Were-Link
Paper Mario

I really hope none of these ever make a contest.
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Mega Man Volnutt
Were-Sonic
Were-Link
Paper Mario

ok, same situation. Volnutt should qualify, the others are just transformed versions of characters already in the contest or a character in a different art style. Paper Mario would be like nominating 2-D Samus in addition to Samus.

you guys are kidding, right? I'm stupidly responding to joke posts. That must be it.
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Stick with Dark Link and Dracula any more and SBAllen will just take it as a joke question.
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Young Link, Dr. Mario, Baby Mario, Were-Sonic, Were-Link, and Paper Mario are all the same character as their originals and thus shouldn't be eligible. Toon Link is iffy since Bacon treats all the Links as the same, though in reality he should be a different entity considering how Mega Man and X are separate. Young Link, however, is the younger form of Adult Link, so they're still the same character since Young Link only really appears in OoT and MM. Dark Link, Dark Samus, Megaman.exe, and Volnutt are all distinct characters, so they should be eligible. As for Dracula, I'm all for him making it considering his Castlevania identity is distinct from traditional Dracula. As has been mentioned, his game form is as distinct as Diablo's and Ama's.

Of course, we don't need to see most of those. Only Dracula and maybe Dark Link. Though there's a few other characters that would be worth checking too.

Still, if someone inquires about Dracula to Bacon, make sure to mention the Diablo/Ama case. If Bacon approves, I'll definitely rally to get Dracula in. I doubt anyone else would realize they could nominate him, so he'll definitely need a Board 8 push. Plus he'll probably be the closest thing we get to a Fictional Contest Representative from people who confuse Castlevania Dracula with traditional Dracula.
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I'd much rather not see Dracula. It's quite clear Okami Amaterasu is not the same as the Japanese goddess, while this is much less clear with Dracula.
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