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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/29/2010 10:18:40 PM | message detail |
Also,
after playing some Mass Effect 2, I am a full believer in Shepard being
legit. He is several times better than in the first game. --- DFF |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/29/2010 10:22:40 PM | message detail |
Just
a quick question about the NRT: Would anyone be opposed to me placing
all the characters from the same series into one region just to ensure
we get some diversity in the selection process? For example, all the Pokemon would be put in the same region, all the FF characters would be put in the same region, etc. Good idea, bad idea? --- "Stay with me until the end, Dr_Football. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/29/2010 10:26:49 PM | message detail |
I
think it should be left up to the NRT voters if they want two
characters from the same series or not. I believe in the past they have
been pretty good at anti-voting less popular characters if a series
starts to advance too many characters. --- Dr_Football punted my bracket across the field. Congrats to Dr_Football for winning the Character Battle 8 Guru Contest! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/29/2010 10:29:08 PM | message detail |
Well, we've never had two characters from the same series get NRT support in the same year, so it should be fine. --- "The great GF...Dr_Football." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/29/2010 10:39:38 PM | message detail |
I'd
be game if you paired some up early, but I wouldn't want to see four
out of four Pokemon characters in the same four-pack or anything that
extreme. Having two or maybe three in the same division should
be fair enough though as long as all series with similar amounts of
characters were treated the same. If a series gets more than three
characters in for whatever reason, it would really suck to see them all
pinned to a single division. I only really think it's fine though because nobody likes to see a character be ditched for another character like how Red 13 was ditched for Cid. Nature of the contest though, so I'm okay with letting the fanbases make some of those decisions early instead of in the Round Robin. --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/29/2010 10:41:30 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #452 Bad idea, in my opinion. I'm strongly against company caps that the nominators/voters themselves aren't putting in place. You heard the podcast today, right? If 30 Pokemon are strong enough to get in, let them. Artificially removing the choice from the hands of voters is never good. --- .·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·. If I only could make a deal with God, and get him to swap our places. |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/29/2010 10:44:13 PM | message detail |
And,
really, if you go that route, try to make the most appropriate matches
(not that you don't, but your question beckons me to specify a bit
more). I'll use Pokemon for an example again: people are probably going
to nominate Squirtle and Blastoise a lot. If that happens, pit them
against each other early on if you can. Same if Brock and Misty both
get a lot of support. I don't think you would need to feel particularly
obligated to put Squirtle/Blastoise in a division with Brock/Misty
though, if that makes sense. It's a matter of interests specific to the
fanbase. --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
vcharon | Posted 3/29/2010 10:48:22 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #457 This is a good explanation, and I wholeheartedly agree with it. If the NRT has indeed never had two from one series win out, then it shouldn't be a huge problem. However I can see it presenting itself this year in lieu of PokeFAQs and so many believing a large number of them would be pretty good in the contest. It might be best to take some preventive measures, but they should be light as suggested above. --- :> |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/29/2010 10:49:48 PM | message detail |
Also,
I'm gonna call it: this will be the first year two characters from the
same series win NRT-positions, and Pokemon will be that series. I don't
have a clue which two, but Pokemon's won the past three NRT-contests
and the series has impressed time and time again the past few contests,
so -- coupled with not many new exciting newcomers outside of FF13
(outside of Lightning, the big one) -- I think the people will see the
series as a safe choice of sorts. Still, we don't know that the board
will support two from the same series that late in the contest yet. That's why I don't want to see what you suggested happen a lot, but you can get some of it out of the way early on and I don't think it would cause a bad ****storm. It'd be better to help the winner of those matches have more focused support in the Round Robin than risk the fanbase see-sawing over who to support more in that late in the contest and not let either get the support they should receive. --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/29/2010 10:56:36 PM | message detail |
Intentionally
setting up Blastoise vs Squirtle early is unnecessary, because NRT
voters are the smartest voters of any board contest. If they don't want
multiple Pokemon getting NRT spots then it won't happen. And if the
host has some moral qualm against Squirtle and Blastoise (and
Jigglypuff and Arceus and whoever else) potentially taking multiple
slots, then it's time to let someone else run the NRT. But Leon's a really bright guy, so I doubt he'll go that route. He knows best of all how fast the opinion changes in that contest. People near the end always go "Eh I don't like 2 characters from the same series winning this, let's sack one". If I recall proper, this is how Squirltoise missed the cut last year. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· Are you going to pick my pocket? |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/29/2010 11:04:20 PM | message detail |
Thing
is, if there aren't many people who really want to see both Squirtle
AND Blastoise in a contest (and why would there be? Some maybe, but a
lot?), then it would only help the winner of such a match once they
reach the Round Robin. People are smart enough to favor one over the
other, but it's certainly not clear which side wins as each have their
own argument, and that doesn't mean the board will QUICKLY favor one
over the other. They may a match or two into it if one of the two lose
a match early, but this one doesn't seem clear-cut. --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/29/2010 11:18:02 PM | message detail |
Crap, lost my post. Medium post short, I'm cool with leaving the contest alone like TRE and Ulti are saying, but few people are going to want both Squirtle and Blastoise winning NRT-nominations and I'd hate to risk them hurting each other in the Round Robin since there's not a clear favorite between them. Honestly, the winner of such a battle will almost certainly win a nomination and may win the NRT, so let people decide early on if they like the younger or older form of this specific species of a Pokemon so the people who like going water in Pokemon aren't split at the end. If you're going to ask people to decide a SFF-match early in a contest, this really is one of the most reasonable times to ask it from a common sense perspective... ...and that's not meant as an insult because I get they're both contenders to do very well this year. I just know I'd hate to see young Solid Snake and old Solid Snake cost each form of Solid Snake the chance to get Solid Snake some credit in a similar scenario. It's different, but similar. --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
Water Sitar | Posted 3/30/2010 3:06:39 AM | message detail |
A
quick question for you guys, Has anyone in the top 10 heard anything
about redeeming your prize yet and for the past contest winners how
long did it take you guys to receive your prize? Thanks! :) |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/30/2010 6:43:53 AM | message detail |
The
board is pretty good at voting against multiple characters from a
series, Pokemon Trainer Red losing to Laguna in the final day was proof
of that. I remember the NRT for 2006 where Nintendo dominated the first
two rounds then was anti-voted which got rid of a lot of characters. I remember during the last contest we were discussing about having only 3 NRT and 2 returners due to the lack of characters, but all of this discussion makes me believe that we can find 4 new characters. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/30/2010 7:11:42 AM | message detail |
Would you rather have it so only the strongest characters are in the contest, or would you rather have diversity? To put it in a more humorous way, would you rather have 1/4 of the bracket be Pokemon characters, or would you rather put up with fodder like Guybrush and Tales characters every year? I don't think it matters whether Squirtle or Blastoise win NRT. I have a feeling both are going to make the next bracket anyway. --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/30/2010 7:50:36 AM | message detail |
You need a balance of the two. If 1/4 of the bracket is Pokemon then it's going to be harder to avoid SFF matches. I also feel that only one of Squirtle/Blastoise will make the bracket unless they both win a spot in the NRT. This isn't like Pokemon Trainer Red where the board wanted to see how a trainer would perform. I don't see a large portion of the board supporting more than one new Pokemon character. I also feel that Mewtwo may not be in the bracket next year. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LOLContests | Posted 3/30/2010 8:05:59 AM | message detail |
I doubt we'll be seeing more than 2 or 3 more Pokemon in the next contest if that. People are overblowing this a little. Squirtle and Blastoise should go up against one another in the Rally Bracket anyway. Not because it would knock one out, but because it would be a great match. --- "Wake me. When you need me."--Master Chief Dr. Football beat Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/30/2010 8:10:26 AM | message detail |
I
could see them supporting a second Pokemon, just not of the same
species...and I don't know what that other Pokemon would be right now,
either. (come on Kadabra) --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
LOLContests | Posted 3/30/2010 8:11:12 AM | message detail |
So no one likes the idea of doing 3 brackets for the Rally Tournament -32 Entrant Snubs Bracket -32 Entrant Returner Bracket -16 Entrant Newbie Bracket and then the top two from the first two, and the winner from the last one get the spot. I proposed it a couple months ago and people seemed to like it, but it's up to Leonhart obviously. --- "Wake me. When you need me."--Master Chief Dr. Football beat Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/30/2010 8:19:33 AM | message detail |
I
don't support a NRT that puts less focus on newcomers; I'm not even for
seeing there be two returners and three newcomers, and it took me
awhile to like having just one returner. By the way, what difference are you making between snubs and returners? --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
LOLContests | Posted 3/30/2010 9:00:24 AM | message detail |
Snubs would be characters that have never made a tournament before. --- "Wake me. When you need me."--Master Chief Dr. Football beat Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/30/2010 9:51:50 AM | message detail |
I
don't see a Squirtle/Blastoise match being that interesting. I feel
that Squirtle is largely considered to be the next Pokemon to represent
the series. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/30/2010 10:02:49 AM | message detail |
From: LOLContests | #471 Then what's the difference between snubs and newbies? --- Dr_Football is the best Guru winner ever created. |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/30/2010 10:28:28 AM | message detail |
Newbies would be characters from games that were not released when the contest started. We would have to do that contest later IMO. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/30/2010 10:34:53 AM | message detail |
Meh, I don't like separating snubs and newbies. Throw 'em all together. --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/30/2010 10:41:36 AM | message detail |
I guess the main debate is whether we want to split to be 3:2 or 4:1. How many returners do we want to see return? Diablo, M. Bison and Chun-Li are the main ones the board want though others probably have some support at getting in. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/30/2010 11:10:27 AM | message detail |
Max Payne might get back in if nominations fall at the same time of the release of Max Payne 3 and it does well. --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/30/2010 11:12:37 AM | message detail |
You
know what would be great? If we had like a 16 character contest of
"Best Character Introduced this Year" at the end of every year and the
top 2 or 3 get into the next character battle. that way vote-ins can be
freed up a bit more for older characters like Seifer. --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/30/2010 11:19:07 AM | message detail |
4:1,
please. There is more excitement over trying to get new entities into
the contest than people we've seen before, even if there are fewer
newcomers that may impress or if certain returners have reason to boost
since their last appearance. Besides, Vega may be a contender for the
newcomers too, so the board's already got a good chance to get its
SF-kick in the next NRT again (since Ken won the returner-slot last
year)...and Diablo will be a better returner once D3 lands. The ongoing
Pokemon-rush and FF13-cast alone will lead to a good frenzy of decent
newcomers to choose from, enough of one to not need to push for more
returners soon (or preferably ever), and that ignores others that may
do well such as Bayonetta or Goomba. --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
Mitochondriagon | Posted 3/30/2010 11:19:49 AM | message detail |
please don't nominate Blastoise it will flop and hard everyone loves bulbasaur lets get it instead --- "I'm going to give him the happy ending he deserves!"- Hank Hill |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/30/2010 11:20:51 AM | message detail |
lol bulbasaur --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
Lopen | Posted 3/30/2010 11:21:38 AM | message detail |
Goomba would probably be fodder. Look at how well Toad did if you want evidence. --- Foiled again, Link pulled the Dr. Football away! Good grief! |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/30/2010 11:26:32 AM | message detail |
You mean the Toad that was against Bowser? There's also a chance that characters like Goomba may get joke rallied if given the right opponent. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/30/2010 11:28:05 AM | message detail |
There's no way Goomba would be fodder. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/30/2010 11:29:58 AM | message detail |
People
love Toad for one reason: Mario Kart. Besides, Toad did decent enough
in the vote-ins last year -- considering there were three well-known
Pokemon in the poll (including Missingno), Toad could have reasonably
done better with fewer Nintendo characters in that poll. He was still
close to Scorpion despite them, for example. It doesn't hurt that he's
beaten Waluigi, Peach, and Wario in both Mario-polls, either, though we
can agree those mean very little thanks to Yoshi's unusual dominance. Regardless, point is that Toad wouldn't look so bad in a match if he wasn't paired with Bowser/Mewtwo or Missingno/Mudkip/Jigglypuff in polls, so it's unfair to say Goomba would be fodder based on Toad's performances. --- Dr_Football had the best 127-hit combo on B8. I don't know if my health bar will ever recover. Calintares made tons of geolocation x-stats! |
Mitochondriagon | Posted 3/30/2010 11:30:49 AM | message detail |
i mean i really can't see Blastoise having enough appeal to win a match i mean i think a Tales character would beat it --- Winner of the 2010 Winter Character Battle |
Lopen | Posted 3/30/2010 11:31:28 AM | message detail |
Huh I thought Toad had a legit match once. --- Foiled again, Link pulled the Dr. Football away! Good grief! |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/30/2010 11:33:04 AM | message detail |
From: Mitochondriagon | #486 xfd sure --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/30/2010 11:33:21 AM | message detail |
everyone loves bulbasaur LOL Palmer http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3691 And Toad didn't do too badly here. I don't really expect big things from Goomba or Chocobo though. I just don't think people are going to get that excited about voting for generic things that aren't jokes like that. I like Goombas and Chocobos, but I can't think of a whole lot I'd vote for them against. They're just...there. Also, I was thinking about doing 4 newcomers and 2 Returners this year. I used to only do five in the past because we only had ten nominations total, but now that Bacon's expanded that to 15, I don't think too many people would be opposed to adding just one more character. Or we could do 5 newcomers and 1 Returner, whichever you guys want. --- "The great GF...Dr_Football." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/30/2010 11:33:42 AM | message detail |
I agree, I don't see Blastoise being much stronger than any other well liked Pokemon. Charmander, Squirtle and Bulbasaur > Blastoise. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/30/2010 11:33:49 AM | message detail |
From: Mitochondriagon | #486 My word, how did you win a contest? I quit. --- "I couldn't stand a Dr_Football without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Mitochondriagon | Posted 3/30/2010 11:34:25 AM | message detail |
im not even letting my hate of Blastoise cloud my judgment it would probably be the weakest pokemon that would make a contest sans nidoran f --- "I'm going to give him the happy ending he deserves!"- Hank Hill |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/30/2010 11:35:06 AM | message detail |
Goomba and Chocobo could easily turn into a joke character. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/30/2010 11:35:16 AM | message detail |
I'm pretty sure Blastoise would beat Lucario. --- "The great GF...Dr_Football." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/30/2010 11:35:24 AM | message detail |
1
returner only please. There's only one or two that deserve another shot
in based off your rules so there's no point in trying for more then 1. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
ffmasterjose | Posted 3/30/2010 11:36:03 AM | message detail |
Disagree with ya there Palmer. I'd take Blastoise over Lucario and never look back. --- The 2010 Guru Champion is Dr Football! |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/30/2010 11:36:04 AM | message detail |
Blastoise could probably beat Mewtwo as well. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Mitochondriagon | Posted 3/30/2010 11:36:10 AM | message detail |
My word, how did you win a contest? I quit. hey my insight obviously means something! --- "note that my sister being on top doesn't imply anything sexual"- GMUN |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/30/2010 11:36:13 AM | message detail |
it would probably be the weakest pokemon that would make a contest sans nidoran f Add Bidoof and most people would agree. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/30/2010 11:36:39 AM | message detail |
MUDKIPZ --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...Dr_Football." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
