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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 896

vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 2:08:58 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #300
Dark Link would do one of two things:

1. Be a near-elite.
2. Ruin every contest we may ever have.

I give both about even odds. Why take the risk?


When I say this about actual joke characters you all get mad at me and tell me to stop crying.
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LOLContests | Posted 3/23/2010 2:09:16 PM | message detail
Dark Samus would not be eligible, unless something changed in MP3 that I don't know about. Shadow Mario too possibly, although I can't remember what exactly happened with him in SMS.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:09:28 PM | message detail
Dark Link will not be another Link, heck Ocarinca of Time Link would not be as strong as Link.

Linkfear in this topic indeed. I think someone should message SBAllen to see if he's even allowed in the first place.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:10:46 PM | message detail
Shadow Mario too possibly, although I can't remember what exactly happened with him in SMS.

Shadow Mario wouldn't be allowed for the same reason Sheik isn't allowed.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 2:11:12 PM | message detail
I hate joke characters! We should unite against them! Not rally around DARK LINK don't do it man you have so much to live for
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TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 2:11:15 PM | message detail
You know what Bacon should do next year.

Rerun the 2002 bracket.


It would work better in 2 years since that would be the 10th Character Battle and the 10th anniversary.

Dark Link would do one of two things:

1. Be a near-elite.
2. Ruin every contest we may ever have.

I give both about even odds. Why take the risk?


I can't see the second happening. Dark Link will be weaker than Link and you can't go too far lower than Link before Cloud can take you out.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:12:07 PM | message detail
Dark Samus would not be eligible, unless something changed in MP3 that I don't know about. Shadow Mario too possibly, although I can't remember what exactly happened with him in SMS.

Well, Shadow Mario is technically Bowser Jr., but whatever. We'll nominate Bowser Jr. and exclusively give him Shadow Mario pics.

I thought Dark Samus was a separate entity, but I also have nearly no knowledge of Metroid, so I dunno.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 2:12:42 PM | message detail
I could see Dark Link v Cloud going screwy even if Dark Link wouldn't end up a contest ruiner. Link/Cloud is just too entrenched in this contest's DNA.
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creativename | Posted 3/23/2010 2:13:19 PM | message detail
I think people have no problems admitting that the reason they don't want to see Dark Link is "Dark Link FEAR". I used to want to see him due to my love for Link and curiosity on his strength, but the results could be too horrible, and the benefits aren't really there to offset that.

The main benefit is if you hate FF7 or something, and want to see another character that has the potential to beat Cloud for #2. Mild curiosity is the only thing that would be placated by Dark Link being in the bracket.

From: KanzarisKelshen | #1452
Dark Link IS an actual character, though. He's even the mastermind behind one of the games.


I haven't played the newer Zelda games. Which game?

From: MoogleKupo141 | #1458
We may as well nominate Dark Samus and Shadow Mario and Zack Fair and Shadow too.


Are these supposed to be insults towards Zack and Shadow?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:14:27 PM | message detail
I haven't played the newer Zelda games. Which game?

Zelda II

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:14:49 PM | message detail
Are these supposed to be insults towards Zack and Shadow?

yeah, probably, I dunno.
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creativename | Posted 3/23/2010 2:20:08 PM | message detail
Wait what, Dark Link was the mastermind in AoL...? He was the final boss fight but I didn't realize he actually had some story purpose. I thought the bad guys were just Ganon's "minions" trying to resurrect him. Dark Link was their leader in Zelda canon? I'd be surprised if that was the case.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:22:31 PM | message detail
Oh, I don't know about any story element, I've never finished Zelda II, but that's what Kan was referring to.
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Mumei | Posted 3/23/2010 2:23:48 PM | message detail
I don't know the Dark Link is as much of a danger as people are suggesting. I agree that most people would vote for it for the wrong - or at least stupid - reasons ("He's Link - BUT DARK!"), but it's not like we've ever used people's reasoning for voting for a character as a justification for not nominating them.

And I'm as bad a Link fanboy as anybody, and I wouldn't treat Dark Link as some sort of proxy for Link. It just doesn't work like that. I don't plan on nominating him, but I really don't see the big deal if he happens to get in. At worst, I could imagine him making a very big splash in his first year and doing better in that year than he would in subsequent years.

Also, I second the idea to nominate Kafei.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 2:27:10 PM | message detail
If you want strong characters, nominate ? Block. It crushed 2007 L-Block in that bonus poll.
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 2:28:03 PM | message detail
Joke strength isn't real strength. I'm not interested in Dark Link for any other reason than the one's I've already outlined.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 2:29:24 PM | message detail
Dark Link's strength wouldn't really be real strength either unless we think Zelda II is some sort of powerhouse here.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/23/2010 2:30:06 PM | message detail

From: Mumei | #314
I don't know the Dark Link is as much of a danger as people are suggesting.


He's not. People are either illogically afraid because Link won another contest, or they're trying to take a potshot at Link's fans. He's not going to be strong enough to beat Cloud. If Link fans were as "robotic" as the people here jokingly (or seriously, I can't even tell anymore) claim they are, Zelda and Ganon would be the #2 and 3 guys in the contest. LoZ fans know who Dark Link is, and he's a boss in AoL and OoT, and a costume swap in Brawl. While simply being based on Link's design can make him the fourth strongest Nintendo character, it won't be enough to topple the Noble 9 and give us a Link vs. Link final every year.

And even if it were, I thought you all WANTED strong characters. Stop yer bellyaching.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 2:31:27 PM | message detail
And even if it were, I thought you all WANTED strong characters.

Exactly.

? Block would be strong.
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Lopen | Posted 3/23/2010 2:31:32 PM | message detail
I would support Dark Link, and I hate Link's domination

Dark Link is just hilarious though
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 2:31:42 PM | message detail
I want more MGS characters and if that isn't the opposite of the definition of strong I don't know what is :(
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PiGuy96 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:32:41 PM | message detail
Goomba > ? Block

? Block got some block SFF, that's all.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/23/2010 2:32:56 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #319
? Block would be strong.


Maybe a bit stronger than L-Block, but I doubt it would match Missingno. I'd never take it to beat Yoshi, for example.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 2:33:52 PM | message detail
Well, not every new character has to be a Noble Nine smasher! Strong enough to match L-Block is strong enough, isn't it?
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 2:34:33 PM | message detail
Yeah, obviously Dark Link only ever appeared in Zelda II. He's certainly not found in Ocarina of Time or SSBB, oh no.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 2:35:04 PM | message detail
Alternate costume boost, huh?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/23/2010 2:35:30 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #325
Yeah, obviously Dark Link only ever appeared in Zelda II. He's certainly not found in Ocarina of Time or SSBB, oh no.


I mentioned Ocarina and Brawl. I still don't think it'll make him strong enough to beat Cloud.
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 2:35:43 PM | message detail
You fight a story sequence against him with Link, actually. It's not just the "Dark Link" alt costume from the game.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 3/23/2010 2:37:22 PM | message detail
Dark Link would RSFF Link.
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 2:37:51 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #327
I mentioned Ocarina and Brawl. I still don't think it'll make him strong enough to beat Cloud.


I don't expect him to beat Cloud, Mario or any other member of the Noble Nine. I think he'd be more interesting that "oh look, here's this year's joke object!" is all. People who have or are defending jokes don't really have any legs to stand out with this Dark Link hating. Missingno. (and any joke) has the potential to "ruin the contest", but when it happens you guys seem to be favorable towards it. So because it's Dark Link, you're automatically not now?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 2:38:44 PM | message detail
People who have or are defending jokes don't really have any legs to stand out with this Dark Link hating.

Then I'm okay.

Down with Dark Link.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:39:05 PM | message detail
Dark Link is lose-lose to me. He could end up being not strong (i.e. below Ganondorf and Zelda, which wouldn't surprise me the least bit. Look at the difference you get when you change the word "Solid" to "Liquid"), or he could break the contest by being Cloud level or by becoming the strongest joke character (can you imagine how hard the Nintendo fanbase would laugh at Dark Link > Cloud?). There's a chance he ends up as a high midcarder or near-elite, but the risks here (contest ruination) far outweigh the rewards (one more near-elite).
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 3/23/2010 2:40:30 PM | message detail
I don't expect him to beat Cloud, Mario or any other member of the Noble Nine.

I don't see any way that Dark Link loses to Crono, Sonic, or Mega Man.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:41:11 PM | message detail
Yeah, obviously Dark Link only ever appeared in Zelda II. He's certainly not found in Ocarina of Time or SSBB, oh no.

come on, Dark Link in SSBB was literally just Link in a different outfit. He was as legitimate as golden old man Ganondorf.

Dark Link just feels like a slippery slope kind of thing. He's Link and he's black. I don't think there's a single person who actually prefers Dark Link to Link, it would be like the leechiest leech of a guy ever. It wouldn't be as strong as Link, because it'll get some "hey, this is just black Link" backlash, but

ugh

do not want
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TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 2:43:19 PM | message detail
I don't think Dark Link will be treated as a joke character. Even assuming he does get a joke boost, it will fade away after the joke stops being funny.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 2:45:01 PM | message detail
I just hope Bacon says he's not eligible to end all this
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 2:48:03 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #336
I just hope Bacon says he's not eligible to end all this


And prove himself to be as big of a butthurt Link fearer as so many others? With what he said on the front page, it wouldn't surprise me if he barred Dark Link "just because" and gave no real reason. There's no reason Dark Link should be ineligible; he's been a midboss several times and even an end boss.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 2:49:01 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #337
And prove himself to be as big of a butthurt Link fearer as so many others? With what he said on the front page, it wouldn't surprise me if he barred Dark Link "just because" and gave no real reason. There's no reason Dark Link should be ineligible; he's been a midboss several times and even an end boss.


because theres no reason to have him in outside of trolling people who are tired of link domination

"What, you want Link removed? Screw that, we'll add a NEW Link instead!"
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:49:26 PM | message detail
Let's just not nominate Dark Link, and he shouldn't get in.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:52:35 PM | message detail
Although, I think it's very probable that Charmander is right on this. I'm a huge Link fan, and there's very few characters I'd vote over him. If he weren't 6-time champion, the number would be 2 only. Dark Link? Well, he's probably in the top quarter of all notable characters in games I've played, but that still leaves tons of characters I'd vote over him.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 2:54:40 PM | message detail
I don't really think Dark Link would be a Noble Nine smasher, necessarily, but I don't think his upside is all that great.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:56:00 PM | message detail
Dark Link is quickly turning into another Pokemon Trainer Red discussion. If you think logically there is no way that Dark Link will be anywhere close to Link.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 3:07:52 PM | message detail
"Haven't played any of these games" Should pass FFXIII next update.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 3:08:33 PM | message detail
To change gears a bit, what was the Oblivion character that we thought would do well?

Probably the strongest game besides Final Fantasy not to have a character yet.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 3:10:00 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #344
To change gears a bit, what was the Oblivion character that we thought would do well?


The Imperial Guard

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/23/2010 3:11:26 PM | message detail
To change gears a bit, what was the Oblivion character that we thought would do well?

wow, uh... none of them? I love Oblivion, but I can't even remember any of the characters aside from Uriel Septim or whatever who's out of the picture pretty quickly and the annoying fan who follows you around after you beat the arena... oh, and one really obnoxious shop keeper. I can't imagine any character from Oblivion being anything but fodder.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 3:12:54 PM | message detail
The Imperial Guard

Yeah, we should get him in.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 3:14:00 PM | message detail
FFXIII down to 63.57% on HG/SS. 1.5% lost with the ASV there.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/23/2010 3:22:09 PM | message detail
Hey, wait, MM10 didn't make the poll? O.o

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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 3:23:05 PM | message detail

From: Kotetsu534 | #349
Hey, wait, MM10 didn't make the poll? O.o


Yeah, that and the Show were my two biggest issues with it.
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