GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 896
charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 12:48:22 PM | message detail |
I would personally like confirmation of whether or not Dark Link is allowed in the bracket by SBAllen. He should, but then again he could use Link's Dark Link costume in Brawl against him. I would like to be sure. Anyways Dark Link would be near elite at best. As much as we like to joke around the mass voters are not that dumb (or that they are so dumb that they don't recognize "Link" in the picture), he'll probably crush relatively unknown characters based on name, but I feel that he'll fall apart against someone with mass appeal. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/23/2010 12:57:28 PM | message detail |
He has Link in his name.He will almost win.Same with Toon Link.And CD-i Link. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:02:11 PM | message detail |
So does Zero Suit Samus and and they are the same person. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
creativename | Posted 3/23/2010 1:08:05 PM | message detail |
I put Leon's adjusted stats: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/60 Also put up my own Hyper-Adjusted stats, which includes the more obvious day/night adjustments: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/61 --- Voluntarily devotion of sig to give props. Congrats andylt for the best contest season ever (#1 Oracle, #3 leaderboard). |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 1:08:55 PM | message detail |
Honestly I see no reason to want Dark Link in here outside of trying to troll people who aren't Link fans --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Dr_Football fanboyism |
creativename | Posted 3/23/2010 1:09:55 PM | message detail |
Don't forget Final Fantasy Tactics Cloud, that's got to be a different continuity altogether! I used to be all for Dark Link back in the day, but I'm leery of him now. Still curious about him but, I don't know. From: TRE Public Account | #1210 Oh snap, I totally forgot about Crono Clone! He'd murder Baby Mario, that's a squash match. --- Voluntarily devotion of sig to give props. Congrats andylt for the best contest season ever (#1 Oracle, #3 leaderboard). |
TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 1:12:49 PM | message detail |
Honestly I see no reason to want Dark Link in here outside of trying to troll people who aren't Link fans Having potential for being a strong character when we're running out of strong newcomers is a good enough reason for Dark Link to at least be considered. --- Dr_Football punted my bracket across the field. Congrats to Dr_Football for winning the Character Battle 8 Guru Contest! |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 1:14:01 PM | message detail |
From: TRE Public Account | #257 He's just a clone, and anyone who honestly wants to find stronger characters should look further then a clone. At least Mega Man X has his own series and looks different enough to make him a different character. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Dr_Football fanboyism |
creativename | Posted 3/23/2010 1:15:09 PM | message detail |
Anyone
want to give their opinions on where Hayabusa should be adjusted to? I
don't want to adjust him too much since there's really no basis for
Mega Man overperforming on Hayabusa at all, other than I guess NES
ninja sprite maybe. Unadjusted Hayabusa seems so far off though. Luckily the only other noteworthy character it affects is Chief. Thinking of setting Hayabusa equal to Sub-Zero. --- Voluntarily devotion of sig to give props. Congrats andylt for the best contest season ever (#1 Oracle, #3 leaderboard). |
TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 1:19:44 PM | message detail |
He's
just a clone, and anyone who honestly wants to find stronger characters
should look further then a clone. At least Mega Man X has his own
series and looks different enough to make him a different character. Look where? It's not like we haven't been trying to find new characters with strength. The other candidates for strong newcomers are Pokemon and FF7 and we have quite a few characters from those games already. FF13 is also an option and we probably will be trying to get some strong characters from there into the contest as well. --- Dr_Football punted my bracket across the field. Congrats to Dr_Football for winning the Character Battle 8 Guru Contest! |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:21:52 PM | message detail |
Baby Mario vs Crono Clone is the new Mario vs Crono. <_< Guys. Guys. I made a bracket. 1 Link 8 CD-i Link 4 Baby Mario 5 Crono Clone 3 Mega Man Volnutt 6 Dr. Mario 2 Kingdom Hearts Cloud 7 Referee Mario 1 Crono 8 Serge 4 Metal Mario 5 Metal Sonic 3 Bizarro Sephiroth 6 Baby Luigi 2 Kingdom Hearts Sephiroth 7 Liquid Snake 1 Solid **** 8 Silver the Hedgehog 4 Ehrgeiz Cloud 5 Soul Calibur Link 3 Kadaj 6 Protoman 2 Mega Man 7 Seraph Sephiroth 1 Sonic the Hedgehog 8 Shadow the Hedgehog 4 Jumpman 5 Model ZX 3 Bible Link 6 Dissidia Sephiroth 2 Dark Samus 8 Hyper Sonic 1 Solid Snake 8 Solidus Snake 4 Dissidia Cloud 5 Omega-Xis 3 Super Sonic 6 Super Mario 2 Mega Man X 7 Wolf Link 1 Samus Aran 8 Super Shadow 4 Safer Sephiroth 5 Karma Hunter 3 Loz 6 Brawl Snake 2 Big Boss 7 Jenova 1 Zack Fair 8 Cloud Strife 4 Rockman 5 Yazoo 3 Toon Link 6 Ehrgeiz Sephiroth 2 Dark Link 7 Mega Man.EXE 1 Mario 8 Luigi 4 Naked Snake 5 Zero Suit Samus 3 Young Link 6 Old Snake 2 Sephiroth 7 Wario --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg goodness please don't predict this http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 1:22:31 PM | message detail |
My
point is just that we should have standards for what we look for in
strong characters. Just trying to rally a clone of the most popular
character is the wrong way to go about it. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Dr_Football fanboyism |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:23:11 PM | message detail |
4 Safer Sephiroth 5 Karma Hunter SFF match if I've ever seen one. --- If you're seeing this sig, Dr_Football won the Guru Contest! |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:25:33 PM | message detail |
Hayabusa
went even with Zero last year before collapsing against Snake -
anyone's guess how much Pit and DDD hurt Zero though. The year before
he beat Riku+Roxas before...collapsing against Snake. Anything that has him in front of Riku and behind Zero is okay with me. --- Mustache...and Football... |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 1:28:31 PM | message detail |
anyone's guess how much Pit and DDD hurt Zero though Hint: The same amount as one of the character's names in this sentence. --- Dr_Football is the best Guru winner ever created. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:28:54 PM | message detail |
3 Young Link 6 Old Snake Wait until the kiddies wake up! 4 Naked Snake 5 Zero Suit Samus ...Wait until the porn stars wake up? There is an egregious lack of Mr. L and Dry Baby Daisy. --- Mustache...and Football... |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:30:42 PM | message detail |
I was reaching on most of the Luigis as is! I spaced FFT Cloud and neglected to use the AC versions of Cloud/Seph, though. I had to leave room for the bracket's Dark Horse entrant though >.> --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 1:32:29 PM | message detail |
My
point is just that we should have standards for what we look for in
strong characters. Just trying to rally a clone of the most popular
character is the wrong way to go about it. Once again, what should we do then? Once again, it's not like we aren't trying to find more normal characters with strength. We're still doing that. If we find one, you can be sure they will get more support than Dark Link. But if we can't, Dark Link is a fine choice for a potentially strong and unpredictable character to add to the contest. --- Dr_Football punted my bracket across the field. Congrats to Dr_Football for winning the Character Battle 8 Guru Contest! |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:36:46 PM | message detail |
Dark
Link is a genie you can't really take put back into the bottle once
it's out, though (which is what I've trying to be getting at). If he
storms in and wins the contest, what then? You haven't made a better
bracket, you've made a worse bracket - you've almost doubled the boring
and predictable Link blowouts in a single stroke. You either hope he
doesn't get enough nominations (absolutely impossible if he ends up
winning, people will remember), or retire him altogether, which I'm
pretty sure we can say is not happening. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:38:03 PM | message detail |
On the discussion of fringe characters would Dracula and R.O.B. be allowed in the bracket? While a fictional version existed I feel that Castlevania's version has enough differences to be considered. R.O.B. on the other hand while existed in the real world was used for video game purposes only. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:38:42 PM | message detail |
The sad part is, even if we get this Semifinals 3 years in a row. Link Cloud Dark Link Sephiroth People will still complain that FFVII dominate more than Link. --- If you're seeing this sig, Dr_Football won the Guru Contest! |
vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 1:38:47 PM | message detail |
Dark Link isn't just a "clone" though, nor is he presented as "sort of the same character" like all of Mega Man's offshoots. --- :> |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:40:00 PM | message detail |
Dark Link won't win though, this is not like Mega Man X where he has qualities to be liked better than the original. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:41:28 PM | message detail |
this is not like Mega Man X where he has qualities to be liked better than the original. Deny. He's DARK. That is better than GREEN. --- If you're seeing this sig, Dr_Football won the Guru Contest! |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 1:41:35 PM | message detail |
KH
brings up a good point. Once Dark Link gets in, he'll get in every year
and make this contest even more of a joke then it is now when a clone
of link is able to beat nearly every character --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Dr_Football fanboyism |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/23/2010 1:41:47 PM | message detail |
Dark Link is a terrible idea. --- DFF |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:42:47 PM | message detail |
Arguing that Dark Link has actual quality as a character
is obviously facetious and the quickest way onto my ignore list if
you're gonna go that route. L-Block/WCC/Missingno. are more legit than
that thing. His arguments stem exclusively from potential strength, and
that's exactly why I don't want to see him, ever. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 1:44:35 PM | message detail |
From: Karma Hunter | #277 Taking things too serious today, are we? You're threatening me with ignore list because I don't agree with you? It's okay, I'm used to getting ignored for no reason. How exactly are joke objects more legitimate than a mid-boss that has appeared in several Zelda games and is as much of a staple as anyone that isn't Link, Zelda or Ganondorf? --- :> |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:44:36 PM | message detail |
Aw man I forgot Kafei in my bracket Nominate that dude people --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:46:17 PM | message detail |
Our
current joke characters at least aren't proxies for our reigning
contest champion. Y'know what's more of a Zelda mainstay than Dark
Link? Octorok! Nominate that thing. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 1:46:18 PM | message detail |
From: Karma Hunter | #279 Yeah, nothing like nominating fodder and ignoring near elites. I love you stats topic guys. --- :> |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/23/2010 1:47:04 PM | message detail |
Dark Link is a staple? Seriously? L-Block and WCC more personality than that thing, and Missingno is on another tier. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:47:47 PM | message detail |
Dark Link will be weaker than Zelda and Ganondorf. Book it. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 1:47:50 PM | message detail |
The hypocrisy is staggering. These are the same people who blast me when I state my dislike for "joke characters". --- :> |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:49:36 PM | message detail |
I
don't like joke characters! But I'd rather have something like
Missingno. - which people vote for because he's a glitch in a Pokemon
game - than Dark Link. Who people will vote for because his name has Link in it. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 1:50:19 PM | message detail |
L-Block and WCC more personality than that thing, and Missingno is on another tier. I like Missingno. but I have no idea how you could possibly say it has a personality. --- Dr_Football punted my bracket across the field. Congrats to Dr_Football for winning the Character Battle 8 Guru Contest! |
vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 1:50:34 PM | message detail |
From: Karma Hunter | #285 Dark Link at least wouldn't be "for the lulz". I think you all are seriously overestimating how stupid people who like Link are, just when it was claimed that you all don't really feel that way about Link fans. --- :> |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:51:56 PM | message detail |
My
favorite character's fans find themselves utterly incapable of voting
for him when they see him in sprite form. What credit do you think I
give the Zelda fanbase!? --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:53:00 PM | message detail |
Again Dark Link may get Link votes against weaker opponents, but the Zelda fanbase knows the difference between the two. Dark Link won't get bandwagoned unless Link is banned from the contest and even then I don't see any of the major sites rallying over any kind of Link. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:54:36 PM | message detail |
As a side note Solid **** still undefeated in GameFAQs contests even better than Link someone retire that dude posthaste --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2010 1:54:37 PM | message detail |
My
favorite character's fans find themselves utterly incapable of voting
for him when they see him in sprite form. What credit do you think I
give the Zelda fanbase!? Snake also doesn't become fodder, so Dark Link gets a 10% boost on top of his normal strength, that's not contest winning strength. --- Calintares made a whole lot of geolocation x-stats Congrats to Dr. Football for winning the Guru. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/23/2010 1:57:15 PM | message detail |
Dark Link IS an actual character, though. He's even the mastermind behind one of the games. This is not to say he isn't a potentially disastrous idea, especially if Link is retired, but he is a distinct entity. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 1:57:57 PM | message detail |
The
reason isn't because Dark Link is "undeveloped" as a character that you
guys are so against him. You're all just terrified of him for whatever
reason (again, you are dumbing down Nintendo/Link fans as being idiots
who see the name "Link" and press vote). This is a contest with tons of
joke objects that aren't even living characters, things like Sandal and
Midgar Zolom and so on. You can't really make any sort of argument
against Dark Link based on his "lack of personality". You're afraid of him, that's it. --- :> |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 1:59:57 PM | message detail |
I'm afraid he has contest-ruining potential. I never once suggested otherwise. ...and? --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/23/2010 2:00:31 PM | message detail |
Sandal has way more personality than dark link --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Dr_Football fanboyism |
vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 2:03:00 PM | message detail |
From: Cyclo_Reaper | #295 It doesn't matter. Out of tons of great characters, the almighty internet rallies in "the lulz" again. Go figure, it's just so cool to do now. Dark Link wouldn't be a joke or intended to be a joke. His strength would be legitimate and real. I suppose with so many people so biased against him he'll struggle even in the NRT. I'll probably have to lead the rally I guess, you guys are just too closed minded and would rather keep the contest predictable. It's not predictable what Dark Link can do, I don't really think it can be done until we see. --- :> |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:04:25 PM | message detail |
You know what Bacon should do next year. Rerun the 2002 bracket. --- If you're seeing this sig, Dr_Football won the Guru Contest! |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/23/2010 2:05:10 PM | message detail |
it's pretty predictable a Link palatte swap is going to tear up the bracket it will be awful because it's just another Link We may as well nominate Dark Samus and Shadow Mario and Zack Fair and Shadow too. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Dr_Football |
LOLContests | Posted 3/23/2010 2:05:11 PM | message detail |
I'm
probably one of the biggest Link fans in this topic and I don't want
Dark Link anywhere near this contest. The only time he should ever
appear is in another Villain Contest, if that. --- "So what if it seems hopeless? If it were me, I still wouldn't give up. Embrace your dreams."--Zack Fair Dr. Football: Guru Champ! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/23/2010 2:07:32 PM | message detail |
Dark Link would do one of two things: 1. Be a near-elite. 2. Ruin every contest we may ever have. I give both about even odds. Why take the risk? --- DFF |
