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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 896

LOLContests | Posted 3/23/2010 11:20:15 AM | message detail
It's not like we're likely to see any more FFVII characters anyway. Cid and Aeris barely made it in as it is.
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Calintares | Posted 3/23/2010 11:23:45 AM | message detail
How many other handheld-only characters have been in the contests?

the only others I could think of was Soma and Isaac
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/23/2010 11:25:01 AM | message detail
Neku and Sho
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/23/2010 11:25:27 AM | message detail
Isaac appeared in Brawl. >_> <_<
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/23/2010 11:25:48 AM | message detail
Felix, too.

And Isaac isn't handheld-only anymore thanks to Brawl.
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Calintares | Posted 3/23/2010 11:26:17 AM | message detail
And Phoenix Wright and Edgeworth too
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/23/2010 11:27:01 AM | message detail
Phoenix Wright is on WiiWare or VC now, so Wright/Edgeworth aren't handheld-only anymore.
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LOLContests | Posted 3/23/2010 11:27:28 AM | message detail
Isaac would have counted as handheld-only in 2003 and 2007.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/23/2010 11:27:45 AM | message detail
Yeah, I'll make a list of characters from this bracket later who should be locks for the mock bracket. May not do it until tomorrow though.

And I think we should at least keep Link in the mock bracket. It's been argued that it's possible to make a good bracket while still keeping Link in it, and I think we can do that.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 11:30:54 AM | message detail
for example I wouldn't mind seeing Akuma in the bracket again, but should M. Bison/Chun Li return or Vega/Guile appear then I feel the guy needs to go.

Akuma deserves a fair shot to win a match, at least. I still say he's as strong as any of those four.
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creativename | Posted 3/23/2010 11:48:18 AM | message detail
Bring in Red XIII. Red XIII>=Cid.

Barret and Yuffie would definitely be weaker than Red XIII. No need for Cid anymore, and really, no real need for Aeris either honestly. Cloud/Seph/Vincent/Tifa automatic - add Red XIII. No big deal here..

I suppose you could also argue for Rufus Shinra or that one Turk (I think people thought Reno would be strongest?), since they have potential. But in terms of PCs Red XIII would be the strongest we haven't seen. One of these three should get support though.

I'd say Goomba/Bahamut/and either Squirtle or Blastoise should for sure get big support, and either Red XIII/Rufus/or Reno would be a good choice too (although I'm skeptical Reno's strength myself). I'd bring in Bahamut before Red XIII though.

As for Leon's Mario adjustment, I'm with red sox, I totally disagree with it. But if people want to use those stats that's they're choice.
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voltch | Posted 3/23/2010 11:49:10 AM | message detail
hmm, do people think SSFIV will boost akuma, or just keep him constant?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 11:49:43 AM | message detail
SSFIV shouldn't do much of anything for anyone.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 3/23/2010 11:52:27 AM | message detail
I don't see how anyone can say that they are interested in seeing the strongest character's regardless of how manycharacters there are from the same game in the bracket because that gives the strongest field and the most reliable stats and be against the strongest entrant.

It's like being pro-abortion and anti-contraception. It just doesn't make sense.

You can argue one or the other, but not both simultaneously and still attempt to maintain the appearance of a non-biased and objective commentator.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 3/23/2010 11:56:31 AM | message detail
As for big board noms, I think we'll see a big push for Epona/Goomba/Chocobo and either Squirtle or Blastoise.

I plan on rallying for Epona, I brought her up after nominations opened before this contest but couldn't get enough steam going to get her in.
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Lopen | Posted 3/23/2010 11:57:57 AM | message detail
Yuffie is the strongest one yet to be used. Get that Red XIII propaganda outta here

Fear that KHF
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 11:58:03 AM | message detail
I'm not a big fan of this rallying for generic things like Goomba or Chocobo, but whatever.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/23/2010 12:00:01 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #217
but whatever.


Heh.

If we're still insisting on getting in FF7 characters, we should focus on getting good ones in. I know the pickings are slim, but its mainly Rufus Shinra that needs to get in here.
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voltch | Posted 3/23/2010 12:00:14 PM | message detail
yeah, we need more Dark Link.
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voltch | Posted 3/23/2010 12:01:19 PM | message detail
also, Mr T and Reno> Rufus Handsome.
though Reno and Rude would be perfect in a tag team contest.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2010 12:07:12 PM | message detail

From: nintendogirl1 | #214
I don't see how anyone can say that they are interested in seeing the strongest character's regardless of how manycharacters there are from the same game in the bracket because that gives the strongest field and the most reliable stats and be against the strongest entrant.

It's like being pro-abortion and anti-contraception. It just doesn't make sense.

You can argue one or the other, but not both simultaneously and still attempt to maintain the appearance of a non-biased and objective commentator.


Wrong analogy. Fringe Republicans are anti-abortion, but couldn't care less about the fetus once it's born.

...until it reaches military age. Then they have no problem killing people and going against that whole "sanctity of life" nonsense. Most hypocritical, idiotic political party on the planet. "Sanctity of life" only applies when these people get to choose who lives and dies, and you'll notice they only care about human sanctity of life. Couldn't care less about any other species.

Want a perfect example?

From: SmartMuffin | Posted: 1/4/2010 9:57:36 AM | #008
I've never understood the point of caring about the planet outside of how it affects humanity.


This is what tea party people actually believe. I say "fringe" Republicans because a good deal of conservatives aren't morons -- just the whole tea party crowd trying to ruin the party from within.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2010 12:07:50 PM | message detail
Dark Link really needs to get in.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/23/2010 12:08:26 PM | message detail
Why do you have that saved? >_>
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2010 12:09:21 PM | message detail
Because the idiocy of some people is FUNNY TO ME </Heavy>
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voltch | Posted 3/23/2010 12:09:26 PM | message detail
guys tell me, is Dark Samus eligible?
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TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 12:11:22 PM | message detail
Dark Samus is a complete different character than Samus so she should be eligible. She would have a fair shot at being the strongest Western developed character as well. <_<
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 12:13:17 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #222
Dark Link really needs to get in.


No, he really doesn't.
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 12:13:32 PM | message detail
Dark Link is the strongest character we haven't seen yet. I'll stand by that until he proves me wrong, but I can't imagine that happening.
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voltch | Posted 3/23/2010 12:13:44 PM | message detail
then what are we waiting for let's get both Darks in, Black rule!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2010 12:14:54 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #228
Dark Link is the strongest character we haven't seen yet. I'll stand by that until he proves me wrong, but I can't imagine that happening.


Oh I don't even see how it's debatable. I'm pretty much convinced he'd be the second or third strongest character.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/23/2010 12:15:38 PM | message detail
I don't want Link in here, why the **** would we want Dark Link?
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 12:16:30 PM | message detail
I don't know, you'd think the stats topic regulars would at least want the strongest characters in the contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 12:16:34 PM | message detail
FFXIII currently has 65.08% on HG/SS. In the 2009 Games Contest stats, FFVII is projected to get 65.58% on Gold/Silver.

FFXIII 3rd strongest game on the site confirmed
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/23/2010 12:17:50 PM | message detail
FFXIII 3rd strongest game on the site confirmed

I can live with this. And to think, another 30+% of the site hasn't even played it yet!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 12:19:50 PM | message detail
Oh, and I guess "I don't play games" would be the 4th strongest entrant...
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Haguile | Posted 3/23/2010 12:19:58 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto
I don't want Link in here, why the **** would we want Dark Link



Because maybe, just maybe, we could get Dark Link>Link.
Which as stupid as it sounds, would be better than Link>Anyone.

Besides it would make the contest a little more unpredictable. I'm fairly sure he would underperform in sprite rounds, and be certainly beatable, but would be absurdly strong otherwise.

So I say, let's put him in.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2010 12:20:19 PM | message detail
Got nothing against Dark Link, we need to NRT that fool into a contest victory.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 12:21:37 PM | message detail
I dunno. I just don't like the idea of "Hey, this guy is just a dark version of Link! Let's get him into a contest to see how strong he'd be!"

And I'd be more depressed with Dark Link winning than with Link winning.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/23/2010 12:22:42 PM | message detail

Besides it would make the contest a little more unpredictable. I'm fairly sure he would underperform in sprite rounds, and be certainly beatable, but would be absurdly strong otherwise.

So I say, let's put him in.


Goomba is a better choice. He could be stronger then Mario or weaker then Peach. He also doesn't have that stigma of being just the dark version of a contest elite.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/23/2010 12:22:46 PM | message detail
We should get Shiny Charizard into the contest oh god
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TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 12:22:47 PM | message detail
I don't want Link in here, why the **** would we want Dark Link?

The biggest problem most people seemed to have with Link was he was too strong compared to the rest of the field and SFFs a lot of his nearest competition. Dark Link at best is weaker than Link. Cloud, at the very least, would have a chance to win and I'd even say Cloud would be the favorite to win. Also Dark Link probably won't be able to SFF Mario or Samus.
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 12:23:39 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #239
Goomba is a better choice. He could be stronger then Mario or weaker then Peach. He also doesn't have that stigma of being just the dark version of a contest elite.


The stigma of possibly being fodder is worse than the stigma of possibly being Link.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/23/2010 12:24:28 PM | message detail
Not really. People were going crazy for Red when he had a huge chance of being fodder. Same deal with MissingNo. Goomba could end up just about anywhere.
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 12:24:53 PM | message detail
Also, I don't think Dark Link is a real threat to win the contest or anything. As said, I can't see him SFFing elites the way Link does either. He'd be a fun and interesting entrant however, and I can see him winning plenty of matches. I'm not sure why you guys want to hold a possible near elite out of the contest, for any reason.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 12:26:36 PM | message detail
Missingno. craze started up when it beat down its opponents in the Vote-In poll. I don't think very many people thought Missingno. would end up as fodder. Red definitely could have turned out badly, though.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 12:27:47 PM | message detail
I don't think Dark Link would actually win the contest, but just the prospect of it is depressing enough. He doesn't feel much different than a joke character because his inherent strength is just tied to the fact that he's a dark version of Link.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2010 12:28:37 PM | message detail
Yeah, we need Dark Link and Dark Samus in the contest! Why not! While we're at it, we've been long overdue for getting all the different Links in the contest. They're all different characters, and they should be eligible. Toon Link is even distinct in Brawl! Squeeze Kingdom Hearts Cloud and Sephiroth into the nominations as well when you get a chance, he's nothing like FF7 Cloud. And has anyone considered all the other Mega Mans besides X we could fit into this thing???

Personally, I won't be satisfied until we get a bracket composed of nothing but the Noble Nine and their derivatives.
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vcharon | Posted 3/23/2010 12:29:22 PM | message detail
I'll be glad when the anti-Link sentiment in these topics dies down.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/23/2010 12:31:07 PM | message detail
I'm not anti-Link. I don't have a problem keeping him in the contest (I don't have a problem retiring him either).

Just not a big fan of including Dark Link, Dark Samus, Anti-Sora, whoever.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 3/23/2010 12:35:27 PM | message detail
Personally, I won't be satisfied until we get a bracket composed of nothing but the Noble Nine and their derivatives.

Baby Mario vs Crono Clone is the new Mario vs Crono. <_<
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