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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 895

Swarles_Barkley | Posted 3/22/2010 12:38:27 PM | message detail
Are you saying Sazh has mediocore design? He's one of the most unique looking FF characters, and he's comic relief AND has a baby chocobo living in his fro. He's far from a mediocre design.

Unique =/= good. He just looks a little bland compared to the others IMO.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/22/2010 12:38:56 PM | message detail
Should we try to get a Dragon Age character in (Probably Morrigan) or will the game be forgotten by the next contest?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 12:39:36 PM | message detail

From: Swarles_Barkley | #401
Unique =/= good. He just looks a little bland compared to the others IMO.


If you're gonna start talking about bland characters, pick on Hope first, not Sazh. He looks like a typical feminine looking underage boy that every jrpg has these days.
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voltch | Posted 3/22/2010 12:40:06 PM | message detail
we did get a dragon age guy in already though.
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 12:40:09 PM | message detail
Morrigan rally I can support this

Think the game might have a bit more longevity with the expansion pack (s, maybe) so it might still be relevant.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 12:40:23 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #402
Should we try to get a Dragon Age character in (Probably Morrigan) or will the game be forgotten by the next contest?


Dragon Age 2 is rumored to come out Febuary 1st, 2011 (theres a card in the expansion pack that only says 2.1.11 that people think means it'll be out then), so it'll probably be better to get one of the characters from that game in.
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TheSnowVilliers | Posted 3/22/2010 12:46:35 PM | message detail
Although you can laugh at that poll because it's in Japan, and the mainstream appeal is going to be to North America (at least in terms of contest strength).

Snow will be at the very least the second most popular, if not the most popular, in North America -- easily.

Also am I the only person that really doesn't like Lightning all that much? She just comes off as a total self-centered ***** to me.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/22/2010 12:48:10 PM | message detail
Snow will be at the very least the second most popular, if not the most popular, in North America -- easily

thank you for that unbiased assessment, TheSnowVilliers
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 12:48:22 PM | message detail

From: TheSnowVilliers | #407
Snow will be at the very least the second most popular, if not the most popular, in North America -- easily.


What exactly is so good about Snow? He's the exact qualities that people don't like. Look at another character similiar to him; Cocky, and can't get stuff done. Irvine.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=846

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vcharon | Posted 3/22/2010 12:48:35 PM | message detail
As much as I hate to agree with him, it's true a Japanese poll has little bearing on contest strength.
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vcharon | Posted 3/22/2010 12:49:23 PM | message detail
Come on now, let's not whip out polls from the dark ages to prove points.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 12:49:53 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #410
As much as I hate to agree with him, it's true a Japanese poll has little bearing on contest strength.


I'm pretty sure a Japanese poll for popularity for other FFs would be pretty close to ours. You don't end up below minor villains and then became one of the most popular characters in America.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 12:50:16 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #375
Still doesn't explain why 4ways easily outdo 1v1 in votes. even combining first 12 hours and second 12 hour averages doesn't outdo 4ways average votes.


Did they not teach math in whatever school you flunked out of?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 12:51:05 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #413
Did they not teach math in whatever school you flunked out of?


People being able to vote twice should make the votals higher.
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Rokoko | Posted 3/22/2010 12:51:57 PM | message detail
Lightning > Baby Chocobo > Everyone else

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voltch | Posted 3/22/2010 12:52:04 PM | message detail
Ulti, you're assuming he has a school to move his mass to.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/22/2010 12:52:04 PM | message detail
no, 6000 Japanese voters probably doesn't translate too well to this entire, mostly American site's opinion

like that Famitsu list you posted is pretty strongly different from what you'd get here.

they're just different
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 12:52:16 PM | message detail
I think he misunderstood what you meant by "combined"
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 12:52:30 PM | message detail
You.... you really are a 24 year-old 3rd-grader. Wow.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 12:53:55 PM | message detail
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 12:54:04 PM | message detail
Uh Ults there's actually nothing wrong with what Albion said there.

SOMEONE FAILED 3RD GRADE READING COMP TOO.
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voltch | Posted 3/22/2010 12:54:46 PM | message detail
B8 is full of dumb people.
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vcharon | Posted 3/22/2010 12:54:48 PM | message detail
I really hope we get the FFXIII character poll to just settle this nonsense once and for all. I'm really not interested in talking about it, especially since it's my belief that none of them will be much of a factor in the contest should they even get in.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 12:55:02 PM | message detail
Of course there's something wrong with what Albion said. He supported 4-ways!
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 12:55:16 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #417
like that Famitsu list you posted is pretty strongly different from what you'd get here.


The FFVII ranking on there goes like this:

1. Cloud Strife
2. Tifa Lockhart
3. Sephiroth
4. Aerith
5. Zack Fair

Outside of no Vincent (since he seems like the kind of character who would appeal to America more, anyway. Gunz and stuff), its pretty close to ours. It would be like having Rude beating Tifa on a japanese poll, and then having Tifa be one of the strongest characters here. Thats just too much disparity.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 12:55:53 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #419
You.... you really are a 24 year-old 3rd-grader. Wow.


Good job explaining how giving people the ability to vote twice means there shouldn't be more total votes.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/22/2010 12:56:47 PM | message detail

The FFVII ranking on there goes like this:

1. Cloud Strife
2. Tifa Lockhart
3. Sephiroth
4. Aerith
5. Zack Fair

Outside of no Vincent (since he seems like the kind of character who would appeal to America more, anyway. Gunz and stuff), its pretty close to ours. It would be like having Rude beating Tifa on a japanese poll, and then having Tifa be one of the strongest characters here. Thats just too much disparity.


Why does Vincent get a free pass, but Snow can't? Snow could appeal more to Americans because he has a trenchcoat and a a cool hat.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 12:57:29 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #427
Why does Vincent get a free pass, but Snow can't? Snow could appeal more to Americans because he has a trenchcoat and a a cool hat.


Okay, do you think that Rude beat Vincent in total votes for the Famitsu poll? Because that would be comparable to Rosch beating Snow.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/22/2010 12:58:11 PM | message detail
Okay, do you think that Rude beat Vincent in total votes for the Famitsu poll? Because that would be comparable to Rosch beating Snow.


I don't know. Rude's pretty cool. Could have happened.
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 12:58:50 PM | message detail
Now the one argument you could make to that average thing not meaning anything is the case when you have big draws in a night match and jobbers in the day match. Although I would that would balance out with the opposite case, generally.

In any case that doesn't actually have anything to do with comprehension of Mathematics.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 1:03:16 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #421
Uh Ults there's actually nothing wrong with what Albion said there.

SOMEONE FAILED 3RD GRADE READING COMP TOO.


If you give someone 4 options in a poll instead of 2, of course they're more likely to see something they like and vote. This is common sense. If you suddenly start holding 12 hour matches on a site that's had one poll daily for 10+ years, of course most people will miss polls. It has nothing to do with the number of poll options. Put up 12 hour 4way polls and vote totals would be low there as well. Even Albion could figure something this simple out. I think. You learn by third grade how 4 is a bigger number than 2, right?
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 1:04:02 PM | message detail
Nice save.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 1:04:16 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #431
If you give someone 4 options in a poll instead of 2, of course they're more likely to see something they like and vote. This is common sense. If you suddenly start holding 12 hour matches on a site that's had one poll daily for 10+ years, of course most people will miss polls. It has nothing to do with the number of poll options. Put up 12 hour 4way polls and vote totals would be low there as well. Even Albion could figure something this simple out. I think. You learn by third grade how 4 is a bigger number than 2, right?


So basically you're agreeing that 4ways is better for the site due to more interest since people will see characters they like more often, then.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 1:07:08 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #433
So basically you're agreeing that 4ways is better for the site due to more interest since people will see characters they like more often, then.


Okay you aren't this dense, you're clearly doing this on purpose. 4ways are so unbelievably indefensible (and unpopular) by this point that I'm convinced anyone who still wants them is just trolling.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 1:07:37 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #432
Nice save.


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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 1:07:48 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #434
Okay you aren't this dense, you're clearly doing this on purpose. 4ways are so unbelievably indefensible (and unpopular) by this point that I'm convinced anyone who still wants them is just trolling.


Its the only way Link can ever be beaten again. As an avid supporter of removing Link, if he's not removed, 4ways is next best option.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 1:09:52 PM | message detail
Or you can grow an ounce of common sense and remove both.
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 1:09:58 PM | message detail
Tag teams tbqh, put Link with Tingle. Problem solved as two near elites can take him out.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 1:10:25 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #437
Or you can grow an ounce of common sense and remove both.


We're talking about Bacon.
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creativename | Posted 3/22/2010 1:15:01 PM | message detail
Leon, have you posted your adjusted stats yet?

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #1855
Still doesn't explain why 4ways easily outdo 1v1 in votes. even combining first 12 hours and second 12 hour averages doesn't outdo 4ways average votes.


Mostly because site traffic has declined, independent of polls. This site is becoming less relevant. Vote totals aren't going to be reaching their past levels again.

The more options thing is also a factor, but a lesser one.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 1:19:25 PM | message detail
I know a lot of people don't want it, but I would be greatly interested in a tag team contest. I would so take Crono/Samus to beat Link/midcarder.
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 1:21:48 PM | message detail
I would too. I've been serious with my support of the tag format, and I'm a bit curious as to why everyone's so against it. Beats the hell out of a fictional character contest I think.

I'm guessing it's because it's too hard to predict and our stats will mean little.
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TheSnowVilliers | Posted 3/22/2010 1:24:56 PM | message detail
Link + anything would beat any other tag team. You underestimate Link fanboyism.

Anyway, I think Snow definitely appeals a whole lot more to the North American crowd than any other character in the game (minus maybe Lightning, but I have no idea why).
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TheSnowVilliers | Posted 3/22/2010 1:25:25 PM | message detail
I think a fictional character contest is 100x better than a tag team contest.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 1:25:41 PM | message detail
It would tell us a great deal about how voters think. Like, recently people have been calling the Link fanbase androids and saying they'll see Link and vote for him and I really don't think it's true. A small portion of his fanbase is like that, yes, but most of Link's support comes from being beloved by the vast majority of the site.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 1:27:57 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #445
It would tell us a great deal about how voters think. Like, recently people have been calling the Link fanbase androids and saying they'll see Link and vote for him and I really don't think it's true. A small portion of his fanbase is like that, yes, but most of Link's support comes from being beloved by the vast majority of the site.


We don't really think they're androids.
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 1:29:46 PM | message detail
Link + anything would beat any other tag team. You underestimate Link fanboyism.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2920

Link + Vincent vs Mario + Seph

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3306

Link + Crono vs Snake + Cloud

Mind you these are Link with not total dead weight. Put Link with some crap like Tingle and he becomes a casual of r2 or r3 I think, given a bad draw.
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 1:30:13 PM | message detail
... casualty
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 1:30:30 PM | message detail
Tag team would be decent once (albeit a massive gimmick), but I'd rather see a broad spectrum contest.

The most important thing here is how good the new format is. Keep it around as long as possible.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 1:32:32 PM | message detail
The biggest problem with tag teams is that some characters will get screwed over by being teamed with fodder while others will get a first rate partner and do way better than they deserve.

In short, if Crono gets teamed with Samus or Megaman like I'm hoping for, tag teams = amazing contest. If Crono gets teamed with Tingle, worst contest ever.
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