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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 895

TheSnowVilliers | Posted 3/22/2010 1:32:35 PM | message detail
Lopen, unfortunately that's not how the poll would be set up. It would be Link + Vincent against whoever. People would just vote for Link, and that would be that.

If it was set up in a four way fashion that could be different, but with people knowing the outcome had to be huge for Link I have a feeling he would still get enough votes to win.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/22/2010 1:35:09 PM | message detail
Lightning should be pretty strong. At the very least, she should be stronger than Vivi

Sazh could be decent because everybody loves the hilarious black guy. The only time GameFAQs is racist is when the black guy is some ghetto thug. Nobody likes those people and rightfully so.

Fang is the most disappointing character in a game ever. She did nothing.

Snow could be okay but he won't be anywhere close to Lightning

Vanille fodder

Hope fodder
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 1:38:19 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #440
Mostly because site traffic has declined, independent of polls. This site is becoming less relevant. Vote totals aren't going to be reaching their past levels again.

The more options thing is also a factor, but a lesser one.


I'd love to know where you keep getting this bogus claim from. Site traffic on ANY gaming site or pretty much anything tied to retail spikes over Christmas and gradually lessens until the next holiday season. This place is actually doing pretty well and bunking that trend somewhat, because of all the huge games that came out in March.

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.gamefaqs.com

The value of this place always fluctuates between 7 and 11 million annually, and Bacon/Ceej/cnet/the news have confirmed this value multiple times. If that's "less site traffic", sign me up for building a place like this.

Site traffic is fine, and so are the vote totals. They were quite good this contest given the time of year this was held, and comparing this contest's vote totals to something from fall when holiday hype is growing is just stupid. If you had a contest run from something like the middle of November to the middle of January, votals would be ridiculous. Traffic increases vote totals, not the other way around.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/22/2010 1:39:13 PM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #452
The only time GameFAQs is racist is when the black guy is some ghetto thug. Nobody likes those people and rightfully so.


So Snow would be fodder, since he's a white guy with a do rag.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/22/2010 1:40:59 PM | message detail
We still need Link vs Everyone
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 1:43:09 PM | message detail
The most important thing here is how good the new format is. Keep it around as long as possible.

I actually didn't like this contest much... though I think it's mostly because it was balls to keep up with/do analysis on or whatever. That's a big part of the draw for me, though, so yeah.

Lopen, unfortunately that's not how the poll would be set up. It would be Link + Vincent against whoever. People would just vote for Link, and that would be that.

Why aren't these people all voting for Link in the 4 way poll then? Are you saying they're metagaming their votes, not "wasting them" on Link? Still doesn't explain the Snake/Cloud situation of the other match, and I don't think that many people pay attention to the poll results that carefully, otherwise Link would've been anti-voted out of the contest by now.

The biggest problem with tag teams is that some characters will get screwed over by being teamed with fodder while others will get a first rate partner and do way better than they deserve.

A tag team contest would only be interesting if the teams were deliberately constructed. Random team assigning wouldn't work, but I think pairing the Link with Tingle, Cloud with Seph, and the rest of the NNers with elites would make predicting the winner a total crapshoot, which would be awesome.
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 1:44:42 PM | message detail
Though Cloud + Seph might be a bit too strong

Cloud + Tifa and Seph + Vincent would work pretty well though for using SFF to diffuse the damage
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Calintares | Posted 3/22/2010 1:55:37 PM | message detail
Wyoming is the strangest place ever, there is no rhyme or reason to anything that goes on there.

Also, I think Red Socks needs to move over there.
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vcharon | Posted 3/22/2010 1:56:37 PM | message detail
Tag teams need to, you know, actually make sense.
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Lopen | Posted 3/22/2010 2:04:47 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #459
Tag teams need to, you know, actually make sense.


Why?
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vcharon | Posted 3/22/2010 2:05:55 PM | message detail
It's not even remotely interesting otherwise to me, and it barely qualifies as interesting even the way I would want it. I don't see how anyone can really want to see that over a broad spectrum character battle.
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Dr_Football | Posted 3/22/2010 2:05:55 PM | message detail
I'd appreciate your guys votes in this!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=54032982
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voltch | Posted 3/22/2010 2:06:35 PM | message detail
where are Zell and Dark Link DFM!
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 2:19:33 PM | message detail
Tag teams?Well it makes sense that FF VII characters team with each other.In fact it makes sense if people from one franchise team with each other.
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voltch | Posted 3/22/2010 2:38:35 PM | message detail
Who does Squall team up with?
HUH! Now where's this second FFVIII character heh?
goddamnit you people, nominate zell already.
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Calintares | Posted 3/22/2010 2:45:07 PM | message detail
Sephiroths eightpack in Wyoming is the most messed up thing I have ever seen, enjoy:

Crono: 58.87
Yoshi: 57.12
Link: 50.00
Cloud: 48.42
Samus: 48.42
Missingno: 46.51
Sephiroth: 44.79
Squall: 44.44
Snake: 42.81
Jak: 41.53
Auron: 40.98
Riddley: 39.73
Aeris: 39.73
Tifa: 38.95
Alucard: 37.14
Sonic: 34.62
Sub-Zero: 34.30
Rikku: 33.29
Mario: 32.47
Terra: 32.03
Vivi: 31.92
Peach: 31.52
Altair: 30.86
Magus: 30.51
Kirby: 30.51
Tidus: 30.49
Dante: 30.12
Duke Nukem: 29.87
Vincent: 29.86
Mega Man X: 29.73
Pikachu: 29.44
Kratos: 29.27
Gordon Freeman: 29.21
Big Boss: 29.11
Jill Valentine: 29.05
Shepard: 28.94
Leon Kennedy: 28.52
Zelda: 28.48
Ganondorf: 28.41
L-Block: 28.14
Luigi: 28.13
Chris: 27.24
Cid: 27.22
Thrall: 27.08
Cecil: 26.92
Bowser: 26.84
Isaac: 26.66
Ryu: 26.55
Big Daddy: 26.45
Darth Revan: 26.21
Charizard: 25.98
Lightning: 25.79
Liquid Snake: 25.51
Protoman: 25.46
Captain Falcon: 24.83
Knuckles: 24.73
Mega Man: 24.63
Roxas: 24.21
Ocelot: 24.18
Donkey Kong: 23.94
Mewtwo: 23.93
Amaterasu: 23.69
Frog: 23.76
Shadow: 23.34
GlaDOS: 23.34
Riku: 22.99
Ness: 22.68
Wesker: 22.51
Ike: 22.22
HK-47: 21.96
Zidane: 21.81
Wander: 21.73
Kefka: 21.47
Fox McCloud: 21.41
Geno: 20.61
Kratos Aurion: 20.47
Soap: 20.16
Razma: 20.12
Heavy: 19.60
Ken: 19.56
Balthier: 19.56
Companion Cube: 19.53
Fawful: 19,02
Vault Boy: 19.01
Sackboy: 19.01
The Boss: 18.86
Jecht: 18.71
Yuna: 18.58
Price: 18.53
Nico: 18.52
Layton: 18.46
Tails: 17.64
Ratchet: 17.46
Arthas: 17.39
Zack: 17.39
Red: 17.34
Meta Knight: 17.01
Prinny: 16.66
Zero: 16.39
Claptrap: 16.36
Edgeworth: 16.06
Master Chief: 15.63
Ryu Hayabusa: 15.39
Sora: 15.10
Yuri: 14.74
Prince of Persia: 14.67
Ezio: 14.64
Simon Belmont: 14.40
Axel: 14.34
Spy: 14.33
Marth: 13.78
Midna: 13.54
Nathan Drake: 13.43
Falco: 13.32
Akuma: 13.26
Laharl: 12.78
Neku: 12.51
Marcus Fenix: 12.49
Travis: 11.99
Phoenix Wright: 11.86
Sandal: 11.31
Lloyd: 11.10
Macmilian: 11.08
Ellis: 11.07
Guybrush: 11.02
Banjo: 10.70
Eddie Riggs: 8.29
Crash: 6.69
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 2:47:15 PM | message detail
How can Crono and Yoshi be above 50?Man!
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Haguile | Posted 3/22/2010 2:49:24 PM | message detail
If tag teams happen, I demand to see the Dan McNeely+ Dan Hibiki dream team.
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I thought HE would be able to lead Link??
Calintares | Posted 3/22/2010 2:49:47 PM | message detail
They beat MissingNo by a huge margin, a much bigger margin than what Link is projected to get on him through Cloud, Snake and Sephiroth

what I ought to have done was to use Crono as the base and put him as 50%, but since he lost in round 1, it becomes a nightmare, and I'd rather not do it.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 2:52:18 PM | message detail
Also a question that after all these years I just thought.Here it is:

Sephiroth doesn't have a last name???
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Haguile | Posted 3/22/2010 3:07:13 PM | message detail
Also a question that after all these years I just thought.Here it is:

Sephiroth doesn't have a last name???


Sephiross Geller, isn't it?
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I thought HE would be able to lead Link??
Calintares | Posted 3/22/2010 3:08:51 PM | message detail
And Link Chmowsky right?
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vcharon | Posted 3/22/2010 3:09:59 PM | message detail
Sephiroth's technical last name would be whatever *spoilerlol* Hojo's last name is. It's very possible "Hojo" is Hojo's last name, so Sephiroth Hojo would probably be his true name. I doubt he would claim it or anything though.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 3:10:04 PM | message detail
In Wikipedia it doesn't say anything.Not even in FF wikia.
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Calintares | Posted 3/22/2010 3:14:47 PM | message detail
FF7 SPOLIERS



nah, the relationship between Hojo and Lucretia was not out in the open, it wouldn't make sense for him to have the surname of either of them. He was raised by Shin-Ra, so his name is whatever Shin-Ra says it is, and if they don't care to give him a surname but gives him an unique given name instead then so be it.





END FF7 SPOILERS
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 3:16:01 PM | message detail
So he doesn't have one?Now that is bad ass.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 3:16:21 PM | message detail
YES WYOMING BEST STATE EVER

I mean, Wyoming was already one of my favorite states before this contest, this just cements its status as the #1 state in the Union by far.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/22/2010 3:18:07 PM | message detail

From: Calintares | #475
FF7 SPOLIERS



nah, the relationship between Hojo and Lucretia was not out in the open, it wouldn't make sense for him to have the surname of either of them. He was raised by Shin-Ra, so his name is whatever Shin-Ra says it is, and if they don't care to give him a surname but gives him an unique given name instead then so be it.





END FF7 SPOILERS


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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/22/2010 3:20:26 PM | message detail
Regarding the most popular FFXIII characters... I'm currently doing a poll on b8 asking everyone to rank their favorite characters from it, and adding up about 20 people who voted so far...

1. Lightning (43)
2. Sazh (47)
3. Snow (77)
4. Fang (87)
4. Vanille (87)
6. Hope (93)

At least on this board, seems Lightning and Sazh are by far the two favorites.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/22/2010 3:35:13 PM | message detail
Whoa, Wyoming stats are excellent.
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vcharon | Posted 3/22/2010 3:42:49 PM | message detail
Board 8 polls are obviously related to overall popularity.
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creativename | Posted 3/22/2010 3:44:57 PM | message detail
A tag team contest would suck compared to most contests. It wouldn't be bad in and of itself, but it wouldn't be on the level of our regular contests.

It would only be decent as a mini-contest, say 16 matches with our strongest 32 characters.

Because otherwise you're talking teams of Link+Sandal and Cloud+Ellis vs. Cecil/Protoman. Or if 64 characters then teams like Link/Ratchet and Cloud/Captain John Price vs. Zack/Big Daddy. In teams this lopsided the partner is irrelevant - Link's and Cloud's teams win, and the finals are Link/fodder vs. Cloud/fodder or maybe Mario/fodder or Snake/fodder. That's horrible.

The only way it would truly be fun is if it was actually a mini- mini- contest, 8 matches with 16 characters. Then you might get teams like Link/Sonic and Cloud/Mega Man X or something, and it's interesting. And short.

UltI-
Of course traffic is seasonal. Nothing to do with what I was talking about, not sure why you aim that at me. I'm confident I remember the Alexa reach numbers etc. being higher in the past. And I'm talking like a marginal 10% decline from peak values, nothing catastrophic.

From: UltimaterializerX | #2253
Traffic increases vote totals, not the other way around.


That's what I was saying in the first place. You're echoing me.

If that's "less site traffic", sign me up for building a place like this.
Less site traffic than this site was getting before. Clearly the site still gets plenty of traffic.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 3/22/2010 3:45:19 PM | message detail
Claptrap: 16.36
Sora: 15.10


So awesome.

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/22/2010 3:48:30 PM | message detail
Because otherwise you're talking teams of Link+Sandal and Cloud+Ellis vs. Cecil/Protoman. Or if 64 characters then teams like Link/Ratchet and Cloud/Captain John Price vs. Zack/Big Daddy. In teams this lopsided the partner is irrelevant - Link's and Cloud's teams win, and the finals are Link/fodder vs. Cloud/fodder or maybe Mario/fodder or Snake/fodder. That's horrible.

The only way it would truly be fun is if it was actually a mini- mini- contest, 8 matches with 16 characters. Then you might get teams like Link/Sonic and Cloud/Mega Man X or something, and it's interesting. And short.


If it were me making the bracket, I wouldn't strictly pair the strongest characters with the weakest characters. The best way would probably to pair them randomly, and then manually switch characters to get rid of LFF pairings. Then we would get a nice continuum of strength, and it wouldn't be the same as the team with the strongest single character winning.
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TheSnowVilliers | Posted 3/22/2010 3:53:14 PM | message detail
Snow is at least the second best.
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TheSnowVilliers | Posted 3/22/2010 3:55:56 PM | message detail
Also, lol, why do people even like Lightning? When she's not being a ***** she's being like the most melodramatic character I've ever seen. It's so funny how you guys will make fun of other characters for the exact same thing that you exalt Lightning for.
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/22/2010 3:56:44 PM | message detail
cos she punches that big lump Snow a lot
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Calintares | Posted 3/22/2010 4:00:25 PM | message detail
any stats that project Jak of everyone to break 40% on Link is messed up beyond saving.

Best proof of how much non-linear characters messes up the stats right there.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/22/2010 4:29:21 PM | message detail
So far my cast rankings for XIII

Sazh > Vanille > Snow > Lightning > Fang >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope

**** Hope
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/22/2010 4:40:54 PM | message detail
Anyway, Leonhart, when do you plan to start the NRT this year?

I'm probably gonna take a little while off before I start. Maybe once I get done with school in May. We shouldn't have to worry about another contest for a while yet.

Leon, have you posted your adjusted stats yet?

Not yet. It might be a little while before I work on them.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/22/2010 4:41:17 PM | message detail
Why is Hope like the 2nd most popular character in Japan anyway
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/22/2010 4:45:22 PM | message detail
Lightning > Sazh > Hope > Snow > Vanille > Fang, for me at the start of Chapter 10.

And the whole FFXIII cast is melodramatic. What in the world are you talking about?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/22/2010 5:00:40 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #491
Why is Hope like the 2nd most popular character in Japan anyway


the same reason vaan is the main character over basch

because he looks like a girl
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/22/2010 5:22:48 PM | message detail
I keep forgetting that Hope is a guy in that game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/22/2010 5:30:40 PM | message detail
Oh, and I definitely won't be starting the NRT until the NCAA Characters Contest is over!

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creativename | Posted 3/22/2010 5:40:42 PM | message detail
I've put the raw stats up:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/58

Also thanks to Calintares, geolocation x-stats!
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/59

Sorted by regional strength: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/59#regional

Note: No value for Jecht was calculated in South America. You so lazy Calintares :p Horrible oversight, can't overlook Jecht ever!

From: LeonhartFour | #2410
Not yet. It might be a little while before I work on them.


Not sure if you saw it yet, but I made a spreadsheet that should make it a quick task:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/excel/CB8%20X-Stats.xls
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/22/2010 5:42:08 PM | message detail
Here's to hoping Lighting is the next Zack Fair in 2011!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/22/2010 5:43:02 PM | message detail
yessss wyoming stats
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/22/2010 5:43:23 PM | message detail
Wyoming > Link
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