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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 894

Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:24:54 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #350
how old are you


Is this really important...?

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2010 12:25:16 PM | message detail
very, actually
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irriadin | Posted 3/21/2010 12:26:27 PM | message detail
This topic is now about how old you are in relation to Hvv0l24n9's mom.

Hvv0l24n9's mom is 9 years older than me.
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Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:27:22 PM | message detail
So you're...24?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/21/2010 12:28:44 PM | message detail
how much older than you is your mom, Hvv0124n9?
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Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:30:16 PM | message detail
Funny story...you don't actually want to know.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:31:29 PM | message detail
Time for the preliminary adjusted x-stats!!! The only things I didn't adjust was the Heart Division (besides Link/Mario SFF) and Missingno's four-pack.

Warning: Stats may actually be inaccurate.

Link - 50.00
Cloud Strife - 46.35
Solid Snake - 44.41
Samus Aran - 43.75
Mario - 43.32
Sephiroth - 41.78
Mega Man - 41.62
Charizard - 40.21
Missingno - 39.38
Crono - 39.15
Yoshi - 38.19
Sonic the Hedgehog - 37.45
Vincent Valentine - 36.73
Tifa Lockheart - 36.64
Kratos - 36.60
Bowser - 36.41
Squall Leonhart - 36.27
Mega Man X - 35.32
Auron - 34.95
Luigi - 34.78
Kirby - 34.00
Pikachu - 33.75
Sora - 32.98
Ganondorf - 32.07
Big Boss - 31.92
Zack Fair - 31.92
L-Block - 31.68
Zelda - 31.63
Ryu - 31.54
Dante - 31.32
Cid Highwind - 30.77
Ike - 30.57
Zero - 30.28
Leon Kennedy - 29.81
Zidane Tribal - 29.62
Aerith Gainsborough - 29.61
Knuckles the Echidna - 29.30
Fox McCloud - 29.29
Yuna - 29.29
Big Daddy - 28.98
Rikku - 28.88
Duke Nukem - 28.75
Vivi - 28.81
Sub-Zero - 28.60
Miles "Tails" Prower - 28.56
Jill Valentine - 28.42
Ryu Hayabusa - 28.39
Alucard - 28.21
Cecil Harvey - 28.13
Amaterasu - 28.11
Kefka - 27.90
Captain Falcon - 27.87
Gordon Freeman - 27.87
Pokemon Trainer Red - 27.44
Revolver Ocelot - 27.35
Lightning - 27.07
Master Chief - 26.93
Frog - 26.78
Meta Knight - 26.68
Shadow the Hedgehog - 26.65
Mewtwo - 26.52
Riku - 26.49
Ness - 26.45
Commander Shepard - 26.32
Ridley - 26.22
Princess Peach - 26.06
Chris Redfield - 25.97
Terra Branford - 25.74
Jecht - 25.48
Altair - 25.47
Tidus - 26.39
Donkey Kong - 25.18
Isaac - 25.04
Proto Man - 24.56
Weighted Companion Cube - 24.46
Captain John Price - 24.22
Phoenix Wright - 24.10
Midna - 23.99
Ezio Auditore da Firenze - 23.97
Darth Revan - 23.74
Marth - 23.57
Roxas - 23.42
Magus - 23.40
Vault Boy - 23.36
Akuma - 23.20
Ken - 23.20
Albert Wesker - 23.05
Prinny - 22.93
HK-47 - 22.88
The Boss - 22.60
Ratchet - 22.34
Soap MacTavish - 22.17
Arthas Menethil - 22.00
Falco Lombardi - 21.76
Crash Bandicoot - 21.69
Nathan Drake - 21.53
GlaDOS - 21.49
Spy - 21.43
Laharl - 21.27
Claptrap - 21.11
Sackboy - 20.98
Liquid Snake - 20.83
Thrall - 20.19
Heavy - 20.16
Ramza Beoulve - 19.97
Marcus Fenix - 19.88
Balthier Bunansa - 19.57
Simon Belmont - 19.31
Axel - 19.18
Lloyd Irving - 19.18
Kratos Aurion - 19.06
Niko Bellic - 18.64
Prince of Persia - 18.64
Geno - 18.62
Neku Sakuraba - 18.59
Travis Touchdown - 18.55
Jak - 17.86
Banjo - 16.82
Captain MacMillan - 16.61
Guybrush Threepwood - 16.57
Wander - 16.09
Professor Layton - 15.63
Yuri Lowell - 15.61
Miles Edgeworth - 15.18
Fawful - 14.28
Eddie Riggs - 14.12
Ellis - 12.74
Sandal - 10.71

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HaRRicH | Posted 3/21/2010 12:32:09 PM | message detail
Funny turn of events, here.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/21/2010 12:33:27 PM | message detail

From: Hvv0l24n9 | #356
Funny story...you don't actually want to know.


Actually I do.
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irriadin | Posted 3/21/2010 12:33:44 PM | message detail

From: Hvv0l24n9 | #354
So you're...24?


Yes, that's correct.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/21/2010 12:34:53 PM | message detail
Heh, Arthas didn't end up as bad as I thought he would.
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Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:35:13 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #357
Time for the preliminary adjusted x-stats!!! The only things I didn't adjust was the Heart Division (besides Link/Mario SFF) and Missingno's four-pack.

Warning: Stats may actually be inaccurate.

Link - 50.00
Cloud Strife - 46.35
Solid Snake - 44.41
Samus Aran - 43.75
Mario - 43.32
Sephiroth - 41.78
Mega Man - 41.62
Charizard - 40.21
Missingno - 39.38
Crono - 39.15
Yoshi - 38.19
Sonic the Hedgehog - 37.45
Vincent Valentine - 36.73
Tifa Lockheart - 36.64
Kratos - 36.60
Bowser - 36.41
Squall Leonhart - 36.27
Mega Man X - 35.32
Auron - 34.95
Luigi - 34.78
Kirby - 34.00
Pikachu - 33.75
Sora - 32.98
Ganondorf - 32.07
Big Boss - 31.92
Zack Fair - 31.92


Aww yeah. This I can live with.

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BFarmer1980 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:35:57 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #347
Yeah, its called "seeding"


I get the seeding idea, but honestly, when you get down to the bare bones of this thing, what really significant contribution or difference is "seeding" really making in the scheme of things? For one thing, It's not as if this is the NCAA tournament, and seeding is happening on the basis of a won-loss record or merit. The top 100 characters were seeded based purely on user nominations. By that scheme, this same patterns is virtually destined to repeat itself year in and year out. Secondly, in the previous two years, there was no visible seeding, yet the spreading out of the Noble 9 still led to the same general results--at least 3 of the four semifinalists were N9.
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:36:40 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #359
Actually I do.


Well...I could've joined the Army years ago...
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/21/2010 12:37:04 PM | message detail

From: Hvv0l24n9 | #364
Well...I could've joined the Army years ago...


Then telling us your age shouldn't be an issue, yeah?
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Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:38:24 PM | message detail

From: Hvv0l24n9 | #362
Aww yeah. This I can live with.


Actually, I can't live with the Kratos thing, but that's Char's fault, so it's all good.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/21/2010 12:40:04 PM | message detail
This match alone Link is underperforming expectations by almost 5% for god's sake.

Anyone expecting Link to approach 60% here was letting the results of 4-way matches go to their heads. Let's look at what Link got on Cloud in every 4-way match so far:

2007 semifinal - 57.83%

Not to be trusted because Sephiroth was in the match and Cloud was hurt by LFF.

2007 final - 54.85%

This result is a lot closer to what Link would have gotten on Cloud these days. Even then, Cloud was probably hurt a little bit due to Cloud losing votes to L-Block or even Link. It looks like Link could finish within 1% of this result.

2008 final - 56.12%

This also can't be trusted because Cloud got screwed over by the bandwagoning that Snake received.
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Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:40:25 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #365
Then telling us your age shouldn't be an issue, yeah?


Damn you're persistent. I guess It'll be hard to believe I'm over 13, eh? My account was made back in '03. No matter how you slice it, I'd have been too young to create this account.

And by years, I only meant 2.
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Xuxon | Posted 3/21/2010 12:53:12 PM | message detail
It doesn't matter if you weren't 13 when you created your account, so long as you are now. And I'm not even sure that law existed yet in 2003 anyway.
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Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:56:00 PM | message detail
IDK...GameFAQs was totally different when I first signed up....

Well, different looking.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:58:13 PM | message detail
It doesn't matter if you weren't 13 when you created your account, so long as you are now. And I'm not even sure that law existed yet in 2003 anyway.

It was there in 2002.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/21/2010 1:03:04 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #328
Squall Leonhart – 36.27%
Mario – 35.43%


ughhhhhhhhhhhh

This may lead me to do something extreme!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/21/2010 1:10:01 PM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #123
the less said about the stupefyingly embarrassing Metroid Prime, the better.


Metroid Prime is amazing and you will shut your big mouth for even thinking otherwise.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/21/2010 1:12:06 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #340
As irriadin said it best...simple posturing going on here.

The world is not so predictable. 99%? And you're calling others delusional? Come on now. There's always plenty of wonkiness in these contests. People talk about this year's stats being wonky, but "the stats" are always wonky like that - these contests are not "set in stone!!" stuff. This match alone Link is underperforming expectations by almost 5% for god's sake.

People's memories are so short it's insane.


You're just being ignorant on purpose at this point.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/21/2010 1:16:37 PM | message detail
I'm curious as to what adjustment you gave Sonic, because whatever you did, it makes no sense.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/21/2010 1:20:17 PM | message detail
I don't even know half the stuff that I did.

I probably did something with Ganondorf.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 3/21/2010 1:20:31 PM | message detail
After the new Wii Zelda, Link will be stronger than ever. Mario will be stronger next year and Samus too. Snake might get some boost but Cloud/seph will drop even more. Banning Link is a good idea. Also Why does Mario look so bad in X stats? How high would he be if he wasn't up against Link? Because never in a million years is Samus beating Mario 1v1.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/21/2010 1:21:59 PM | message detail
However, I really don't think that banning Link or any other N9 member is a good solution. I really think that this contest can be made much fresher and more interesting by taking the simple step of grouping the N9 in one bracket from the start, along with 7 other characters who can give them some good competition. This way, the uber-fans still get their matchups, the N9 still likely has a representative in the final four (and, if they don't, we really have something to talk about), and there are three fresh faces in the semi-finals to make things more interesting at the end. Maybe I'm missing something, but this seems like such an obvious fix to the domination of a few key characters over the last 8 years that I'm exceedingly shocked that it hasn't already been implemented

This is the worst idea i have ever seen. So we have part of a bracket that people care about, and part of a bracket that doesn't matter at all.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CURRENT FORMAT. WE DO NOT NEED TO REMOVE ANYONE AS THE FIELD IS SO TIGHTLY GROUPED NOW THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/21/2010 1:22:45 PM | message detail
turtle'd
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/21/2010 1:22:50 PM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #377
After the new Wii Zelda, Link will be stronger than ever. Mario will be stronger next year and Samus too. Snake might get some boost but Cloud/seph will drop even more. Banning Link is a good idea. Also Why does Mario look so bad in X stats? How high would he be if he wasn't up against Link? Because never in a million years is Samus beating Mario 1v1.


Wouldn't be the first time Samus finished ahead in the stats. Consensus is that Samus is stronger indirectly than Mario, just folds against the plumber.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 3/21/2010 1:22:53 PM | message detail
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/21/2010 1:22:56 PM | message detail
I agree with creative. Saying Link is a 99% lock to win every contest means you're either speaking from frustration or have a poor understanding of numbers. Link has to win 6-7 matches every year to claim the title, and the odds of something going wrong in one of them is much higher than 1%. Heck, Missingno had a better than 1% chance of toppling Seph, going crazy, and finding him/itself in Cloud's place.

Remember that Link has already lost two contests. He's lost 25% of the Character Battles that we've had, and while I won't argue with calling him the huge favorite or even retiring him from the main bracket (although I'd like to see him in after the next Zelda game, especially if he gets a redesign), saying he's only got a 1% chance of losing is simply untrue.
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vcharon | Posted 3/21/2010 1:23:31 PM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #377
After the new Wii Zelda, Link will be stronger than ever. Mario will be stronger next year and Samus too. Snake might get some boost but Cloud/seph will drop even more. Banning Link is a good idea. Also Why does Mario look so bad in X stats? How high would he be if he wasn't up against Link? Because never in a million years is Samus beating Mario 1v1.


I'm not sure why you think Snake will get any sort of boost. He won't appear in any more games, unless people are really stupid enough to think Big Boss is Solid Snake in Peace Walker.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2010 1:24:10 PM | message detail
This morning seemed like any typical, normal day. I got up feeling like **** from allergies, groaning as I got out of bed about needing to go into work as my head pounded from inflamed sinuses. As I do any other day, I grabbed my PSP to listen to, slipped my Pokewalker into my pocket, and proceeded to walk up to work expecting the worst. I was already in a horrible mood and lately the pass two weeks have been hell at the particular game store I work at which I shall call “Game Store” for privacy reasons.

After a brisk walk, I came to my store and behold! It was hell yet again. I felt my mood drop even more as I proceeded into the bathroom to change into my uniform and took mental notes on what all needed to be done. My head began to spin as my “to do” list grew. I took my spot behind the counter where I began to clean up. I heard the charm to the front door ring. I turned quickly to be greeted by two fairly older women with three large bags full of games to trade in. I bit my lip to hold back the desire to moan as I watched an avalanche of games spanning from the original PlayStation to the XBox360 engulfed my counter. I tried to be as polite as I could without making eye contact while I began to sort the games out. Little did I know that I was about to have an emotion, heart pulling experience.

The gaming collection presented to me was a very large RPG collection and a handful of other game, some which where personal favorites such as: Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, Final Fantasy X, Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door, Viewtiful Joe, Psychonauts, Shadow of Colossus and a handful of other, harder to find games. All of the games had a sense of whimsical magic and fantasy to them. The type of games that allow you to escape reality from by engrossing yourself in the mystical adventure the developer created for you. I admired the collection to say the least. Clearly whoever owned them had good taste and was a bit of a collector as almost each one was in its original case with the manual. I was honestly surprised that such a wonderfully put together collection was being traded into “Game Store” over being sold privately online for a higher price. I figured a collector would have known that even if the games were played, their value was still worth more than what was being handed to these ladies. Then I discovered the truth as to why these games were being given away.

DUN DUN DUNNNN
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/21/2010 1:24:19 PM | message detail
The only adjustments we really need to make are with Mario/Mega Man, Link/Mario and Charizard's division. Aside from that, everything is either good, or can't be reasonably fixed.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/21/2010 1:24:36 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #382
I agree with creative. Saying Link is a 99% lock to win every contest means you're either speaking from frustration or have a poor understanding of numbers. Link has to win 6-7 matches every year to claim the title, and the odds of something going wrong in one of them is much higher than 1%. Heck, Missingno had a better than 1% chance of toppling Seph, going crazy, and finding him/itself in Cloud's place.


99% is kinda low if you're basing it on just normal matches. The fact the only way that Link will ever lose again is a perfect storm aka L Block... and I'm not sure if something like that can even beat Link in 1v1.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/21/2010 1:28:46 PM | message detail
And we've already one "perfect storm" and one opponent that was just flat-out stronger. I don't think you understand just how huge "99%" is. It's the odds you give Ocarina of Time to crush fodder, not for Link to win every contest in every year.

Heck, the odds that Mario would have resisted enough SFF to find himself in the 2008 finals, thereby giving Cloud or Snake a HUGE chance to win, was higher than 1%.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/21/2010 1:29:02 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | Posted: 3/21/2010 4:22:56 PM | #382
I agree with creative. Saying Link is a 99% lock to win every contest means you're either speaking from frustration or have a poor understanding of numbers. Link has to win 6-7 matches every year to claim the title, and the odds of something going wrong in one of them is much higher than 1%. Heck, Missingno had a better than 1% chance of toppling Seph, going crazy, and finding him/itself in Cloud's place.

Remember that Link has already lost two contests. He's lost 25% of the Character Battles that we've had, and while I won't argue with calling him the huge favorite or even retiring him from the main bracket (although I'd like to see him in after the next Zelda game, especially if he gets a redesign), saying he's only got a 1% chance of losing is simply untrue.


Put it this way, Yo: while there's a possibility of Link losing, he alone probably outscores the rest of the Noble Nine + casual bait character of the year in chances of winning. He's such an odds-on favorite I'd be surprised if his prediction percentage was much lower than 2:1. He's a tremendously dominant force, and is easily above the rest of the field. Putting him in as a Final Boss bonus match really looks like a nice solution to the problem of him eating up an important spot (a 1 seed) and wasting a bunch of characters.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/21/2010 1:31:32 PM | message detail
I'm not even opposed to the Final Boss idea, just to the idea that Link is forever unstoppable (which is what giving him a 99% championship chance implies). We've already seen him lose, and he can lose again.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 3/21/2010 1:32:08 PM | message detail

I'm not sure why you think Snake will get any sort of boost. He won't appear in any more games, unless people are really stupid enough to think Big Boss is Solid Snake in Peace Walker.


Lets get real here..without Brawl Appearance Snake wouldn't as popular as he is today, he'll continue to get that support, i'm not talking about Peacewalker we all know PSP games dont' do ****. I'm talking about Metal Gear Rising. Multiplat game on 360/PS3, will be pretty big. Yeah nsake might not be in it but it will indirectly effect him surely.
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vcharon | Posted 3/21/2010 1:33:00 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'd have to say Link is just too strong. Anyone that believes there's some sort of chance he can lose to non-jokes is probably just fooling themselves. Even with a full FF7 remake that is extremely well received, I just don't buy Cloud being able to ever beat him again.

It's no secret Americans dominate the poll, and typically what they say is better wins. Only twice has that not happened, and it was close enough to a split decision for it to happen. If you look at the world outside of North America, Cloud is winning it almost every other location. The only way Cloud actually beats Link is if more people from Europe and Asia start voting, and in very very large numbers. As it stands, a few thousand people in Asia all voting for Cloud is not going to make one bit of difference. Other than that scenario, there's no way Link is ever losing again barring another joke run.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/21/2010 1:33:08 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #389
I'm not even opposed to the Final Boss idea, just to the idea that Link is forever unstoppable (which is what giving him a 99% championship chance implies). We've already seen him lose, and he can lose again.


His only competition has gotten weaker over the years, while Link is staying steady. Who would ever be able to beat Link? Samus has potential for growth, but he'd sff her to the ground. Cloud and Seph are on the decline. Snake has reached his peak, and can't even beat him with tons and tons of bandwagons. Mario as we saw got massacered with SFF

Who would ever have a shot of beating him?
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/21/2010 1:36:25 PM | message detail
Cloud. As vcharon said, we just need to advertise Gamefaqs lots in Europe and Asia, and he would win. A big role in KH3 would help too, KH really fell off this contest and may still be a big source of his strength.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/21/2010 1:38:27 PM | message detail
Hey hey hey guys, Metroid Prime is my favorite Metroid game by far!!! I wish it was WAY stronger!

...but it lost to freaking VICE CITY in the most favorable match for it in the whole damn universe. It's a weak, weak, weak game.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/21/2010 1:39:21 PM | message detail

From: Denzokuken | Posted: 3/21/2010 4:36:25 PM | #393
Cloud. As vcharon said, we just need to advertise Gamefaqs lots in Europe and Asia, and he would win. A big role in KH3 would help too, KH really fell off this contest and may still be a big source of his strength.


And you're gonna get Asia and Europe to participate more...how? I'd honestly want to hear the answer to this. I mean, didn't someone try to rally South Koreans to vote for Starcraft in Games 2k4? >_>
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2010 1:40:12 PM | message detail
Ugh, KH reminds me how weak Super Mario Galaxy was. The best game of the generation loses to CoD and gets SFF'd to death by Brawl.
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vcharon | Posted 3/21/2010 1:40:59 PM | message detail
Cloud isn't really any further away from Link in strength than he's ever been, by the way. Possibly indirectly he's gotten weaker, but I firmly believe no one else could have help Link in check this way. Granted he's winning comfortably, but Link has destroyed every other opponent he's had this year, except Cloud.
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vcharon | Posted 3/21/2010 1:41:28 PM | message detail
held*
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/21/2010 1:41:39 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #396
Ugh, KH reminds me how weak Super Mario Galaxy was. The best game of the generation loses to CoD and gets SFF'd to death by Brawl.


Maybe if we're lucky, the surge of people who bought NSMBWii will jump on and buy Galaxy 2!
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/21/2010 1:42:58 PM | message detail
His only competition has gotten weaker over the years, while Link is staying steady.

Snake is currently closer to Link this year than Mario was to Sephiroth in 2k5. That doesn't look steady to me.
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