GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 894
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/21/2010 5:43:27 AM | message detail |
Most
1v1 duels is a tie between... Snake and Samus I think? They've always
made the Elite Eight at least, and have never been removed from a main
bracket. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
nostalgic_git | Posted 3/21/2010 5:43:46 AM | message detail |
Personally
I think it'd be cool if the winner of these contests would get retired
from future contests, so we'd always have a new winner. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/21/2010 5:44:15 AM | message detail |
Let's see, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2010 for Link/Cloud 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 for Mario/Crono 2003, 2004, 2006 for Mega Man/Snake 2002, 2003, 2004 for Snake/Knuckles That's all I can think of off the top of my head --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/21/2010 5:44:54 AM | message detail |
Oh, I see what you were asking, my bad. Link/Cloud have tangled five times in 1v1, counting this one. That's almost certainly the record, though Mario and Crono were tied with it until today. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/21/2010 5:47:36 AM | message detail |
Well
Cloud isn't coming any closer from the looks of this. The question is
if Link can start building percentage again-I always thought Link's
patterns in 2006 seemed odd, this might confirm that. Also I like how this match shows Link wrecking the stats even when he's NOT getting SFF'd. |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/21/2010 5:48:36 AM | message detail |
Every time I post about percentage patterns the next update spits in my face |
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/21/2010 5:49:12 AM | message detail |
2002, 2006, 2010 for Snake/Squall too --- ...I...AM...THE...KUZA...LOL and i got owned by DR_FOOTBALL |
Denzokuken | Posted 3/21/2010 5:49:46 AM | message detail |
Cloud's not done yet! --- I've never had a signature before... then Dr_Football looked, blinked, and I had one. |
irriadin | Posted 3/21/2010 6:00:39 AM | message detail |
another
cut by Cloud... This is probably just a series of stalls before Link
takes control of the match again and starts building his lead. --- "I do read sometimes." Mat Cauthon, The Wheel of Time. http://www.last.fm/user/irriadin |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/21/2010 6:13:59 AM | message detail |
Pretty
nice Cloud, looking at 2006 Link/Cloud stayed pretty constant until the
end of the match, but I don't think that will happen. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/21/2010 6:22:52 AM | message detail |
Past
9 AM, and Link hasn't exploded yet, though he probably will begin the
big gains this next hour. He'll slow down in the afternoon though, and
but evening Cloud will be cutting the percentage again. --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 6:26:05 AM | message detail |
Okay,
I'm just waking up, and seeing this, I believe that Samus/Snake were
absolutely benefiting from anti-votes/bandwagoning against Cloud(FFVII
in general, lolSephy). And since there was no choice but to vote FFVII
in Sephy vs. Tifa, these voters just went for the less dominant
character(Tifa). A bit much speculation, maybe, but dammit Cloud looks as great as ever right now. Nowhere near the the 60-40 people were calling for prior to the match. FFVII. Most hated game ever(or is that just the fanbase's fault?). --- PSN: Iquan_5 XBL: Vash Iquan Hey...would you say I became a hero? |
Calintares | Posted 3/21/2010 6:26:14 AM | message detail |
Do you think it would have made any difference if Link/Cloud had happened in the final four instead of the finals? --- Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/21/2010 6:34:06 AM | message detail |
Except
everything under Samus/Snake lines up with expectations (well, aside
from the obvious ones). There's no reason this can't be legit, and it
even makes sense given how we haven't seen anything from Clinkeroth in
years. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/21/2010 6:36:33 AM | message detail |
Not only that, but we saw Cloud/Link underperforming all contest. They've just lost steam and the rest of the field has caught up (except in the obviously SFF-y Link/Mario). I still take Mario over Cloud --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 6:39:26 AM | message detail |
I
could never make myself take Mario in that match-up. Believing that
they've fallen in a comparable manner, fine. But they ain't fell that
damn much, IMO. Or else that was a hell of an SSF'n Link put on Mario. --- PSN: Iquan_5 XBL: Vash Iquan Hey...would you say I became a hero? |
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/21/2010 6:52:46 AM | message detail |
Thinking that Mario could beat Cloud means that Mario is worth around 47% Link indirectly. Yeah, Link may be King of Nintendo SFF, but i still don't believe that he has the ability to hammer Mario so badly with SFF, especially considering that Luigi resisted Link's SFF quite well. --- ...I...AM...THE...KUZA...LOL and i got owned by DR_FOOTBALL |
ffmasterjose | Posted 3/21/2010 6:55:22 AM | message detail |
*sees results for first time today* Yeah Link's gotta go. --- 309/384 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VIII NP: Link > Solid Snake |
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 6:57:56 AM | message detail |
While
I can see why people would want Link out of here, this performance
isn't going to help that cause any. Link and Cloud are still in the
same range going by these results.... --- PSN: Iquan_5 XBL: Vash Iquan Hey...would you say I became a hero? |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/21/2010 6:58:35 AM | message detail |
Since
Calintares dropped off the map with doing Geolocation trends this
contest, I took over with doing that instead. He was doing okay with
Geolocation trends early on, but then just got lazy I guess and stopped
doing them. I only handled the Geolocation votals for now. I might do a
separate spreadsheet, which will be similar to what this spreadsheet
looks like: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/08Summer/08GeolocationTrends.xls But for now, my Geolocation Votals spreadsheet for this contest so far: http://lustersoldier.sitesled.com/2010GeolocationVotals.xls I still have a spot open for today's match, which I plan to fill out once the match is over with. I also have a spot open for the bonus match tomorrow. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2010 6:59:19 AM | message detail |
From: Hvv0l24n9 | #169 Not when Zelda Wii gets announced at E3 and the TP-hype train starts up again, while Cloud continues to fall down into obscurity with fellow spiky-haired JRPG protagonist Crono another year. --- The day Dr. Football blessed us with his presence was the greatest day of our lives But for him, it was Tuesday |
tgs2 | Posted 3/21/2010 7:03:57 AM | message detail |
Cloud will still be close thanks to "Link always wins" Anti-votes far outnumbering Anti-FF7 votes. --- You may take Mr. Rogers down, but I will be back and become more powerful than you ever imagine "tgs is taking it alone" |
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 7:05:56 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #171 Yeah, well no doubt he's gonna get massive hype with his next appearance, but if this match keeps going this way, he's not gonna be excluded from the next contest. Speculation on his spike in strength isn't gonna be enough to ban him. This will probably be up for discussion after the next contest, but not this one. IMO. --- PSN: Iquan_5 XBL: Vash Iquan Hey...would you say I became a hero? |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2010 7:10:07 AM | message detail |
From: Hvv0l24n9 | #173 There's no speculation about it. We've seen in before, it'll happen again. There's a 0% chance Cloud will somehow gain enough strength to take down Link, or for anyone else to do so as well, and that kills all the interest in these finals. --- The day Dr. Football blessed us with his presence was the greatest day of our lives But for him, it was Tuesday |
Jman_maximum | Posted 3/21/2010 7:10:31 AM | message detail |
so.. anyone has Mario vs Crono numbers for this point? (x stats wise) |
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 7:16:09 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #174 I'm not saying it's complete speculation, but it isn't exactly proven at this point what kind of boost Link will get from the next game, as we know nothing about it. It could very well be a de-boost(WW, aww yeah). He'd undoubtedly boost from another good showing, but this contest is more concrete at the moment, is all I'm saying. I wouldn't feel right just saying we should abandon Link because we're afraid of what he could do. We have no idea what that is right now. I'm starting to babble. >.> Oh, and I'm not even a Link fan(never finished a Zelda game). --- PSN: Iquan_5 XBL: Vash Iquan Hey...would you say I became a hero? |
irriadin | Posted 3/21/2010 7:16:35 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #174 Saying a character can never lose is taking things to extremes, even if it is Link we're talking about. --- "I do read sometimes." Mat Cauthon, The Wheel of Time. http://www.last.fm/user/irriadin |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 3/21/2010 7:20:10 AM | message detail |
This
is all just random variation. With all the antivotes between these two,
it's no surprise that Link does better one year than the other. The
fact is barring a FFVII remake, Cloud will never beat Link again. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 7:20:23 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #174There's a 0% chance Cloud will somehow gain enough strength to take down Link. Oh, and on this part, I really believe another FFVII game will do that for Cloud. Square has said that it's going to continue with that universe until at least 2017, so we'll see more Cloud boosts, IMO. --- PSN: Iquan_5 XBL: Vash Iquan Hey...would you say I became a hero? |
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 7:21:22 AM | message detail |
13 seconds, eh... --- PSN: Iquan_5 XBL: Vash Iquan Hey...would you say I became a hero? |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2010 7:22:17 AM | message detail |
From: Hvv0l24n9 | #176 Which is why most of us are behind the idea of keeping him in a Gauntlet of Champions/Final Boss thing. It'll free up some interesting matches in the bracket, make the champion not be set in stone, and still allows us to gauge how strong Link is. From: irriadin | #177 Link isn't losing in the foreseeable future. How's that? --- The day Dr. Football blessed us with his presence was the greatest day of our lives But for him, it was Tuesday |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/21/2010 7:22:40 AM | message detail |
All the planets lined up for 2003. --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
Haguile | Posted 3/21/2010 7:25:23 AM | message detail |
Interestingly enough, if Cloud could cut just a little more percentage...We could get Captain Falcon>Sonic in the X-Stats. GO GO CLOUD! --- http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m294/ze-hyper-1/Cloud.jpg I thought HE would be able to lead Link?? |
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 7:25:38 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #181 Well I'm absolutely for that, it's just having him out completely that I'm not seeing as necessary at this moment. --- PSN: Iquan_5 XBL: Vash Iquan Hey...would you say I became a hero? |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/21/2010 7:25:53 AM | message detail |
From: Jman_maximum | #175 Dunno the exact numbers, but Crono is crushing Mario right now. Mario hasn't been ahead of Crono since the first hour, and unless Link's day vote eclipses KH's or Xbox's, Crono's going to win this match. I miss the days of Mario vs Crono, even if I'm happy Mario's strong enough now to kick his ass hard. I actually like Crono, and it's a shame he's freefalling so much. I'm happy Magus is bombing, though. So overrated as a character. --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/21/2010 7:26:08 AM | message detail |
tag --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/21/2010 7:27:35 AM | message detail |
Heck
a random site shift has caused Link to take a drop, he's just not that
dominant and this match proves it. Adding/Removing Link adds nothing to
the bracket. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/21/2010 7:30:42 AM | message detail |
Who could beat Link now? Serious question. I want names! --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2010 7:31:00 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #187 Not as dominant, but still has the ability to beat everybody else in 1v1(and clearly bandwagons don't mean **** in this format). Guys like Alucard, Mega Man X, Mario, Sonic are all wasted because they get fed to the elf God. At the very least, the removal of Link into a "Final Boss" round could produce some more interesting matches. --- The day Dr. Football blessed us with his presence was the greatest day of our lives But for him, it was Tuesday |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 3/21/2010 7:32:01 AM | message detail |
Woah god damn, Cloud went to town on that percentage last night. Too bad Link's going to take all of it back today! =( --- Dr Football may not have beaten the Dant-A-Meter, but he did win the Guru! |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/21/2010 7:35:12 AM | message detail |
Isn't
Snake not going to get any new mainline games? This may be the
strongest he ever gets without contest bandwagoning, though I guess
smaller releases may help him. Even if Cloud gets a FF7 remake and is a playable character in KH3 like Auron was in KH2, would that still be enough to beat Zelda Wii-fueled Link? Will we ever get a new character in terms of recency strong enough to beat the elites? If Lightning can't do it, I doubt any newcomer could. I don't think anyone but Cloud at this point could actually gain enough strength to beat Link, and for all we know Cloud will stop getting releases soon and become another Crono. Pretty unlikely considering how much Square-Enix milks its earlier games, but possible. Meanwhile, Link will probably always be getting new games, and unless the next couple Zelda games really sour GameFAQs against the Zelda series, he's always going to SFF the likes of Mario and Samus. So as weak as Link is right now, he's probably going to always be even stronger anyway. So we're probably never going to see another champion besides Link except for an outside chance with Cloud assuming FF7 remake and Zelda Wii getting panned by fans. Cloud could get another perfect storm next year if he's lucky, but that'd be a lot to ask for. The thing is, this performance does not justify Link leaving the main bracket. He's definitely a weaker Link than before, and theoretically Cloud could beat him next year if the perfect storm reignites, but other than that he's still not going to be beaten, and that's really a shame. Which would you rather see, Link vs Master Chief to see Master Chief get a consistent number for once, or Sephiroth vs Master Chief for the ultimate anti-vote match? --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/21/2010 7:35:39 AM | message detail |
If it follows the patterns from 2006 Cloud has a chance to bring it down close to 52% before the end of the match. Could be his best performance since 2004 --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
voltch | Posted 3/21/2010 7:36:20 AM | message detail |
what the hell, Cloud brought it down by 4%, all things considered that's damn near amazing. --- Shakes Fist! |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/21/2010 7:37:31 AM | message detail |
The
important thing to remember about Link, is that though Cloud is doing
OK on him here, nobody else could do the same. Mario, Samus and Snake
could all beat Cloud, but would not put this kind of performance on
Link even if they did-and Cloud isn't gonna get any stronger. The difference between the two doesn't matter. The fact remains that nobody has a chance of beating Link. Several characters could beat Cloud though. This is why we should remove Link like in 2005-the contest would actually come into question again. We also won't be feeding 1/16th of the bracket to the monster, so that's more potential for interesting matchups. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2010 7:37:51 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #191 Both of those matches will suck, but at least this will be fun for a few minutes. --- The day Dr. Football blessed us with his presence was the greatest day of our lives But for him, it was Tuesday |
BornInKenya | Posted 3/21/2010 7:38:32 AM | message detail |
Cool Spot could beat link if Bacon didn't ban him ;_; --- Show us the birth certificate, Mr. President ~41 supporters~ SephirothG |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/21/2010 7:40:44 AM | message detail |
There's
never going to be an FF7 remake. Square doesn't have the time or money
to put into it. They've said so several times. And being playable in
KHIII isn't enough to stop the juggernaut that is Link. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/21/2010 7:41:17 AM | message detail |
By
the way it looks like the 2006 patterns were an anomaly. There Cloud
gradually cut throughout the day, this on the other hand is following
normal weekend match patterns. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/21/2010 7:41:24 AM | message detail |
The
way to make a good bracket while keeping Link in is to throw
non-Nintendo characters at him that are all over the place. Master
Chief, Magus, Kefka, Frog, and so on. You could probably even get away
with using a character like Missingno against him, though he'd probably
be better off facing other near-elites. Of course, the problem is
getting Master Chief to Link when you know he'll have a #2 seed. I
wouldn't mind seeing L-Block facing Link next year, either, even though
Link would crush him with ease. I'm sure someone could make a good 16-character division with Link involved! --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
Hvv0l24n9 | Posted 3/21/2010 7:42:10 AM | message detail |
Not
Wylvane basically said what I was trying to say. This match isn't
enough to boot Link from the contests. And Cloud has at least 7 more
years in him according to SE, and if they end that 7 years with a FFVII
remake, then he'll have strength to go on for quite a while. To answer the question of are any new characters going to step up to the NN...I really don't think so if they aren't Square or Ninty characters. Near Elites may boost up, but I don't see new characters even breaking the Near Elites. They just aren't very cool/iconic anymore, IMO. --- PSN: Iquan_5 XBL: Vash Iquan Hey...would you say I became a hero? |
