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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 894

Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 11:13:36 PM | message detail
Adjusted stats would be just as useless as unadjusted!

The difference being that the adjusted wouldn't be nearly as funny or awesome as the unadjusted are! For example, you wouldn't get Pikachu in the Top 10!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 11:13:38 PM | message detail
Flashbacks to BGE1's adjusted stats come to mind.

Yeah, but those had no basis in reality!

At least these will have some precedent and previous basis for them!

And I'm only bothering because cn asked for them. I don't really expect anyone to use them.

And since it bears asking: Adjustment for MMX, yea or nay?
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/20/2010 11:14:36 PM | message detail
I'd still love to see a Link/Cloud team up for a tag team contest just to see how much they would dominate.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 11:15:10 PM | message detail
****, I am so glad contest season is essentially over. Now I can catch up on a bunch of ****.

And go to sleep before midnight!
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GameBopAdv | Posted 3/20/2010 11:15:52 PM | message detail
Sorry for bringing this up randomly like this, but
Can anyone give me a good reason why one of these images wasn't accepted for this final match?
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/20/2010 11:16:09 PM | message detail
Wait a sec MGS2 poorly received since when? It was just 16th on Paste Magazine's 20 Best Games of the Decade list (then again said list had no SSB, KH, or Zelda game in it, and FFXII was representing its series, not to mention Shadow of the Colossus in the top 5 and Portal at #1), and it was 51st on Empire Magazine's list (then again according to that list it beats Twilight Princess, Chrono Trigger, and Brawl, but loses to Metroid Prime, SotC, Deus Ex, Tomb Raider, The Sims, Eternal Darkness, Shenmue, and tons of other stuff)!
HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2010 11:20:08 PM | message detail
The second pic is better than any pic selected today. I don't understand why it wasn't picked either.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/20/2010 11:20:50 PM | message detail
I don't really expect anyone to use them.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I think they'll probably see a fair amount of use.

Sorry for bringing this up randomly like this, but
Can anyone give me a good reason why one of these images wasn't accepted for this final match?
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/403/cbviiifinalcloud.png
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9830/cloudfinal.png


They look good to me. I doubt there's any particular reason they weren't used other than they just weren't.
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ToadYoshi | Posted 3/20/2010 11:24:18 PM | message detail
A contest without Link would be truly fantastic. He needs to suddenly and mysteriously vanish from these contests, only to reappear seven years later (however, he would be unable to use any of his good items).

Congrats to Heroic Palmer and Dr_Football, good to see two cool guys win two great contests!

Also, any suggestions for this year's bonus battle? A poll with Link as the only option would certainly be fitting...not to mention make 55% of the site happy. However, I'm personally hoping for something without CATS. The only thing missing from this contest that we could have reasonably expected was CATS (I know he was in the vote-in, and I do consider those part of the contest, but it's not exactly the same). You can never go wrong with a little more CATS.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 11:25:37 PM | message detail
2010 Final Stats (as of the 2:00 update):

Link – 50.00%
Cloud Strife – 44.02%
Solid Snake – 42.18%
Samus Aran – 41.55%
Sephiroth – 39.68%
Pikachu – 37.80%
Missingno – 37.40%
Crono – 37.19%
Yoshi – 36.26%
Mario – 35.43%
Tifa Lockhart – 34.79%
Squall Leonhart – 34.44%
Auron – 33.20%
Charizard – 32.89%
Mega Man X – 32.72%
Princess Zelda – 30.04%
Ryu – 29.95%
Kratos – 29.93%
Bowser Koopa – 29.78%
Sonic the Hedgehog – 29.77%
Dante – 29.74%
Vincent Valentine – 29.63%
Mega Man – 29.49%
Commander Shepard – 29.47%
Luigi – 28.87%
Zero – 28.75%
Alucard – 28.21%
Aerith Gainsborough – 28.13%
Fox McCloud – 27.81%
Big Daddy – 27.52%
Sub-Zero – 27.16%
Kirby – 27.02%
Jill Valentine – 26.98%
Sora – 26.98%
Captain Falcon – 26.47%
Gordon Freeman – 26.47%
Big Boss – 26.10%
L-Block – 25.89%
Leon Kennedy – 25.83%
Ganondorf – 25.50%
Riku – 25.16%
Ness – 25.12%
Tidus – 25.06%
Pokemon Trainer Red – 24.98%
Revolver Ocelot – 24.91%
Ridley – 24.90%
Princess Peach – 24.75%
Chris Redfield – 24.66%
Terra Branford – 24.44%
Jecht – 24.19%
Duke Nukem – 23.52%
Magus – 23.40%
Miles “Tails” Prower – 23.36%
Protoman – 23.32%
Amaterasu – 23.33%
Rikku – 22.95%
Vivi Oruntia – 22.90%
Phoenix Wright – 22.89%
Kefka Palazzo – 22.82%
Ezio Auditore da Firenze – 22.76%
Zack Fair – 22.61%
Darth Revan – 22.55%
Captain John Price – 22.43%
Marth – 22.38%
Roxas – 22.25%
Shadow the Hedgehog – 22.12%
Akuma – 22.04%
Frog – 21.90%
Cid Highwind – 21.80%
Lightning – 21.52%
Ratchet – 21.22%
Mewtwo – 21.08%
Soap MacTavish – 21.05%
Isaac – 20.46%
Weighted Companion Cube – 20.30%
Vault Boy – 20.25%
Altair – 20.24%
Thrall – 20.19%
Donkey Kong – 20.02%
Meta Knight – 19.80%
Midna – 19.62%
Knuckles the Echidna – 19.29%
Heavy – 19.15%
Ramza Beoulve – 18.96%
Marcus Fenix – 18.88%
Banjo – 18.83%
The Boss – 18.76%
Yuna – 18.72%
HK-47 – 18.66%
Balthier Bunansa – 18.59%
Cecil Harvey – 18.51%
Ken Masters – 18.45%
Ike – 18.35%
Simon Belmont – 18.34%
Albert Wesker – 18.33%
Axel – 18.22%
Lloyd Irving – 18.21%
Sackboy – 18.18%
Arthas Menethil – 18.00%
Nathan Drake – 17.87%
Zidane Tribal – 17.79%
The Prince of Persia – 17.70%
Geno – 17.67%
Travis Touchdown – 17.62%
Laharl – 17.40%
GlaDOS – 17.08%
Jak – 16.96%
Liquid Snake – 16.55%
Kratos Aurion – 16.52%
Ryu Hayabusa – 16.43%
Captain MacMillan – 15.78%
Master Chief – 15.58%
Wander – 15.28%
Neku Sakuraba – 15.19%
Yuri Lowell – 14.83%
Ellis – 14.27%
Prinny – 13.77%
Falco Lombardi – 13.44%
Eddie Riggs – 13.41%
Guybrush Threepwood – 13.37%
Professor Layton – 12.77%
Claptrap – 12.68%
Crash Bandicoot – 12.55%
Miles Edgeworth – 12.41%
Spy – 12.40%
Fawful – 11.35%
Sandal – 8.89%
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Haguile | Posted 3/20/2010 11:26:06 PM | message detail
I'm personally hoping it's Batman vs Cloud in the bonus match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 11:26:37 PM | message detail
Batman vs. Bat-Cloud.
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GameBopAdv | Posted 3/20/2010 11:27:20 PM | message detail
My idea is to have a silly seemingly one sided poll, only have the choices actually give the votes to the opponent when voting.

It would cause some mass confusion, and likely need to be explained the next day.

It would be interesting
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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/20/2010 11:33:49 PM | message detail
IMHO, STAR OF THE CONTEST.

1. Charizard (First newcomer to win his division since Vincent, upset both Bowser and Kratos, did exceedingly well on Mario)

2. Missingno (First character to ever beat N9 in a 1vs1 format, did well against Sephiroth)

3. Snake (Makes impossible possible, first man to break Clinkeroth(formed in 2003), did well on Cloud, number 3 on the X-stats)

4. Samus (All round consistent and impressive performance, did well on Cloud, number 4 on the X-stats)

5. MegaMan/Bowser/Ammy/Jill (All performed slightly better than expected.)
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creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 11:35:58 PM | message detail
Added TRE's updates

BTW, for future reference, to manually perform an update once can go to /poll_update.php?pollid=xxxx.

From: HaRRicH | #209
Also, with all the adjusting talk, I politely request to have no official adjusted stats. Flashbacks to BGE1's adjusted stats come to mind.

I'm all for trying adjusted stats, but I'd rather not see them advertised or relied upon in any normal manner.


If someone is so simple-minded that having adjusted stats also available actually makes things tougher to predict than looking at raw stats, than I say they're just too dumb to bother with :p People will have to have the brains to make most day/night adjustments on their own though I would think.

From: LeonhartFour | #252
And I'm only bothering because cn asked for them. I don't really expect anyone to use them.


Oh I'm sure people will find them useful :) I for one will certainly use them. Leon's adjusted stats from freakin' 4-ways were damn great, and those are much tougher to work with than this.

From: Team Rocket Elite | #253
I'd still love to see a Link/Cloud team up for a tag team contest just to see how much they would dominate.


...I like the way you think! I'm all for this. I don't even know when I'd vote against that team unless Frog was in the other match or something. Maybe also...Bowser, or Sephiroth? Depends on Bowser and Seph's partners I guess. No wait! Bowser+Sephiroth! I almost wish there was a tag-team contest, as godawful as that would be, just so I could vote for a team of Bowser+Sephiroth. No hero could possibly stand a chance against that evil duo.

From: ToadYoshi | #259
A contest without Link would be truly fantastic. He needs to suddenly and mysteriously vanish from these contests, only to reappear seven years later (however, he would be unable to use any of his good items).


Now *this* I could get behind. Brilliant.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 3/20/2010 11:36:23 PM | message detail
Pikachu should be #5.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/20/2010 11:37:29 PM | message detail
So apparently Gordon Freeman gets like 55% on Magus according to these stats?

Imagine going back in time to the aftermath of the 2003 contest, and tell somebody that "someday Magus is going to be weaker than Gordon Freeman. Just to wait and see!" They'll probably say that you're nuts. We should set up that match next year.

Fact or Fiction:

We should never pick Master Chief to win a debated match unless his opponent's ASV sucks.

Metroid Prime would beat Super Mario Galaxy in a head-on match.

Half-Life 2 is a high midcarder.
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/20/2010 11:40:11 PM | message detail
Yeah, i forgot about Pikachu, he deserved the number 5 spot together with Bowser/MM/Jill/Ammy.

Sprite Snake or not, he did surpass most's expectation.
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creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 11:41:11 PM | message detail
Quite a drop-off from the first three stars there. I'd say -

1) Missingno
1A) Snake (could easily be 1...except for that Solid **** performance which hurts his case a bit)
3) Charizard
4) who cares, they don't measure up to the first three! :)

Actually you what, I'm gonna say #4 Frog. He got ~37% on Bowser in *day* match. Frog for 45+% on Sora in a night match believe!

Crono deserves honorable mention, since he's finally stronger than Mario again.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 11:43:01 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction:

We should never pick Master Chief to win a debated match unless his opponent's ASV sucks.

Metroid Prime would beat Super Mario Galaxy in a head-on match.

Half-Life 2 is a high midcarder.


Fact
Fiction (Paper Mario seemed to have done a number on it, and I'd consider Paper Mario even weaker than Galaxy)
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Xssassine | Posted 3/20/2010 11:47:45 PM | message detail
Commander Shepard – 29.47%
Luigi – 28.87%
Zero – 28.75%
Alucard – 28.21%
Aerith Gainsborough – 28.13%
Fox McCloud – 27.81%
Big Daddy – 27.52%
Sub-Zero – 27.16%
Kirby – 27.02%
Jill Valentine – 26.98%
Sora – 26.98%
Captain Falcon – 26.47%


Wow ... Shepard, seriously? I'm pretty sure he'd lose against most of the characters listed below. I think he just picked up a boost from absolutely-no-fanbase-overlap-whatsoever against Pika.
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/20/2010 11:48:04 PM | message detail
Lol Crono with honorable mention for star of the contest. Clearly Mario wasn't SFFd by Link!
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/20/2010 11:53:54 PM | message detail

From: PiGuy96 | #042
I should think Link/Mario would be the most controversial adjustment.


Hmm. How about adjusting him based on the 2005 match with Crono?
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From: Xssassine | #071
Commander Shepard – 29.47%
Luigi – 28.87%
Zero – 28.75%
Alucard – 28.21%
Aerith Gainsborough – 28.13%
Fox McCloud – 27.81%
Big Daddy – 27.52%
Sub-Zero – 27.16%
Kirby – 27.02%
Jill Valentine – 26.98%
Sora – 26.98%
Captain Falcon – 26.47%


Wow ... Shepard, seriously? I'm pretty sure he'd lose against most of the characters listed below. I think he just picked up a boost from absolutely-no-fanbase-overlap-whatsoever against Pika.


For what it's worth, it's raw though adjusted won't look any better because of the hilarity at the bottom. (Layton/Ellis>Chief hype?)
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Psycho_Kenshin | Posted 3/20/2010 11:55:50 PM | message detail
Batman vs Cloud would be nothing special, I mean we already had Snake versus Cloud. Snake is like the Batman for video game fans, only he's even more awesome somehow. And that's coming from a Batman fan.

Batman would probably do about 3% worse than Snake on Gamefaqs, call me crazy. Call me Snake...
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Psycho_Kenshin | Posted 3/20/2010 11:56:51 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, and well done Snake, you really rattled the cages, you had a good run. I had a good time.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/21/2010 12:32:25 AM | message detail
And Cloud gets his first cut.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/21/2010 12:33:47 AM | message detail
All aboard the comeback train choo choo
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/21/2010 12:36:43 AM | message detail
Link is getting massacred in Europe
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/21/2010 12:46:04 AM | message detail
Maybe Bacon will read through this topics and pick up our idea and see how Link vs. Batman would go.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/21/2010 12:50:23 AM | message detail
I hope not. Link vs. Batman should be saved if we're ever going to expand the field. That's probably the biggest match we could get.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/21/2010 1:16:31 AM | message detail
We'll need to decide on what the bonus match should be. I see a Link/Batman idea on the board, another one for Jay Solano/Tanner, and this idea as well:

Link
Ganondorf
Midna
Tingle
Zelda
Cloud Strife

Which was already mentioned in one the past stats topics.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 3/21/2010 1:38:19 AM | message detail
Two big cuts, looks like Cloud is going for his hour win already. Just down 18 so far this one.
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/21/2010 1:43:52 AM | message detail
Good show Cloud.
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/21/2010 1:45:48 AM | message detail
For some reason I want to see you guys rank all the contest matches.
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/21/2010 1:46:14 AM | message detail
Wait no, I meant the finals for every contest!
Denzokuken | Posted 3/21/2010 1:57:15 AM | message detail
3 cuts in a row for Cloud, I do believe that is called a trend.
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CP724 | Posted 3/21/2010 1:57:42 AM | message detail
So Cloud will probably get a little more than he did in 06. How the hell did Snake and Samus get so close to Cloud? Only thing that comes to mnd is both Link and Cloud have dropped about the same amount, or Snake/Samus got some kind of bandwagon to try and topple Cloud.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/21/2010 2:06:31 AM | message detail
Cloud won that hour. What a beast.
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Gaddswell | Posted 3/21/2010 2:13:52 AM | message detail
Well Albion, time to get that copy of Superman 64 ready!
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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/21/2010 2:17:12 AM | message detail
How the hell did Snake and Samus get so close to Cloud?

Judging by Snake's atrocious board vote, i think it is safe to assume that he did not benefit much from the bandwagoning. Clinkeroth probably dip in popularity big time i think, aside from Link's SFF match against Sonic/Mario, none of Clinkeroth's matches were particularly impressive.

Sephiroth - Underperformed against Missingno. and Tifa, got killed by Snake without putting a fight.

Cloud - Went from getting 57% to 52% on Snake, went from getting 71%(with Auron leeching) to 66% on Ryu, awful performance against FC

Link - Only looked great when being in SFF matches against Mario/Sonic, Ganon and Zelda dropped so it is reasonable to accept that Link declined too.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/21/2010 2:20:07 AM | message detail
Woah, Cloud. Assuming he drops 1-1.5% before the end that's still a good bit over what I expected. If he doesn't that's a pretty incredible performance, and reflects very well on parts of the lower half.

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Denzokuken | Posted 3/21/2010 2:22:44 AM | message detail
Wow...Cloud is just taking Link to town right now. He's still got it!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/21/2010 2:22:48 AM | message detail
What in the freaking-

what are you doing Cloud you're trying to retire the damn elf not give people false hope for another decade
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Xuxon | Posted 3/21/2010 2:22:49 AM | message detail
Updates remaining: 224
Votes per update needed to tie: 12.26
Votes per update gotten in the last half hour: 14.33

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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/21/2010 2:25:13 AM | message detail
wow
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/21/2010 2:28:43 AM | message detail
Lower half of the bracket are cheering right now. Cloud is doing much better than most people expected, and he's close enough that the idea of retiring Link doesn't sound so good.

HE ALWAYS WINS... WITH 54 PERCENT.

This also kinda suggests that the FFVII boys were being anti-voted for the big upset, because there's no way in hell I buy Snake or Samus being worth 45% on Link before SFF. Please don't try to sell it.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/21/2010 2:32:04 AM | message detail
That... more than implies that Sephiroth would be doing similarly here, and is stronger than Snake. Not something I'll dismiss out of hand, but I'll favor other possibilities before that. Also Cloud is going to get hit hard with the day here, probably harder than he ever has before.
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Lopen | Posted 3/21/2010 2:32:28 AM | message detail
I can and will try to sell it.

Not sure how mind you.
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