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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 893
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:07:17 PM | message detail |
From: Cyclo_Reaper | #395 The odds Cloud loses 1-on-1 aren't THAT much worse, honestly. He just beat his best competition by over 5000 votes. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Dr_Football |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:07:26 PM | message detail |
A bracket with the winner predetermined is NOT a good bracket. Something about the path being better than the destination or something... If you don't like the final stay until the semi-finals then leave. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:07:50 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #401 He would be the favorite, but he is vulnerable and CAN be beaten. The same can't be said for Link. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 10:07:59 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #386 I do agree that I'd much rather have a well-constructed bracket than merely have Link be removed. The big problem is that we aren't going to get a carefully constructed bracket. We saw that when we got this bracket, with fodder four-packs, Link getting a bunch of SFF matches, and all the wasted potential as characters like Vincent, Crono, and Tifa were flat-out wasted. The format was awesome, but the bracket was horrible. I don't have any confidence that Bacon will work to make the second one better. I still think he should just have a couple of us regulars set it up for him for the price of not being able to compete for prizes, but that will probably never happen for reasons that have been gone over many times. --- Not Wylvane |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:08:20 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #402 You can have both a good journey and a good destination. You don't need to settle for one or the other. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:08:21 PM | message detail |
If
you want to remove Link, make all matches be worth the same amount of
points. Because it's absolutely ridiculous to let the winner be
completely up to chance, instead of rewarding skilled bracketmaking. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:08:21 PM | message detail |
He would be the favorite, but he is vulnerable and CAN be beaten Well, at least we can make ourselves think so anyway. --- "I couldn't stand a Dr_Football without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 10:08:24 PM | message detail |
From: -LusterSoldier- | #1901 Site traffic has probably dropped quite a bit from back in the day. Nobody really uses FAQs anymore. The younger crowd isn't very likely to come to this site - the site's probably been trending older and older over the years. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:08:44 PM | message detail |
It's not a world-ending thing if he is in, but why bother? Why bother having Cloud, Snake, Samus, Sephiroth and Mario if we're going to think like that? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:08:58 PM | message detail |
The
sub-1% chance that Link will lose in the next ten years is not worth 70
boring matches and the lack of an exciting final match. Sub-1%? Link has lost 25% of all character battles. And 70 boring matches? First off, I like seeing Link blast characters into oblivion, it's something I hadn't even gotten to see since 2004. By taking out Link, you get realistically one more good semifinal match, at the expense of a truly great contest. --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:09:47 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #408 I'd blame it on a lack of interest in the contests as well. We already saw bracket numbers divebomb. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/20/2010 10:10:04 PM | message detail |
He would be the favorite, but he is vulnerable and CAN be beaten. The same can't be said for Link. Link is not that much higher than Cloud than Cloud is over Snake. If Cloud can be beaten, at worst Link isn't too far off for being beatable. --- Dr_Football punted my bracket across the field. Congrats to Dr_Football for winning the Character Battle 8 Guru Contest! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 10:10:21 PM | message detail |
This
is the most embarassing discussion I've ever been involved in in these
topics. The fact that anyone would argue against this motion is
disgusting. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 10:11:04 PM | message detail |
Wikis > FAQs these days. I definitely relied more on the Fallout 3 and ME1/2 Wikis than the FAQs here! --- Not Wylvane |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:11:19 PM | message detail |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #411 If the board the last couple days is any indication, people are tired of seeing Link always winning. For example, you'd lose interest in the NFL if you knew who would win the super bowl even before the season started... so why even bother following it? same thing here, and till Link is removed, I can see the interest waning. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:11:20 PM | message detail |
This
is the most embarassing discussion I've ever been involved in in these
topics. The fact that anyone would argue against this motion is
disgusting. I know arguing the most popular character out of a contest is pretty embarassing. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:11:24 PM | message detail |
I'm
not arguing that Link shouldn't be retired. I'd be fine with him being
removed and placed in a bonus match. Heck, I'd almost prefer it. I just don't think having Link in the bracket means you have a bad bracket. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the Dr_Football, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 3/20/2010 10:11:28 PM | message detail |
Wow, I guess the Ganon and Zelda indicators were right after all, and Link just SFFed his side like crazy. --- KrahenProphet and Nintendo cleaned me out in the Guru Contest. |
creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 10:12:33 PM | message detail |
Actually
I think the vast majority thoroughly enjoy matches like Link vs. AiAi
and Link vs. CATS, and LoZ Adventure. And of course Snake Tanner - who doesn't think Snake Tanner was absolutely awesome? --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:12:57 PM | message detail |
I've
said it before and I'll say it again, the only people that care about
the finals in a regular, Link-filled bracket, are people who take the
superficial aspects of this contest too seriously. I think I speak for
everyone here when I say that the biggest draw for us at least, is the
competitiveness and stat discussion. Remove Link and Cloud, then you
have a final which is a literal tossup, eliminating 3/4 of eligible
brackets even though many of those people were the far more skilled
bracket makers. This is not a good time to remove Link because we do NOT have a clearly defined pecking order. A debated final would be no more interesting than a debated quarter or semi-final. But having that debated match in the semi-final doesn't reward dumb luck over bracket skill. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 10:13:21 PM | message detail |
This
is the most embarassing discussion I've ever been involved in in these
topics. The fact that anyone would argue against this motion is
disgusting. Eh, I've been caught up in the ****storm that the Vincent/Guybrush match started, which was worse IMO. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
paraboxx | Posted 3/20/2010 10:13:46 PM | message detail |
Link
is not that much higher than Cloud than Cloud is over Snake. If Cloud
can be beaten, at worst Link isn't too far off for being beatable. Yes, both characters have to get weaker before they can be beaten. But Cloud has reasons to get weaker. He hasn't had a lead role in a game since the turn of the century. The same cannot be said about Link. |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:13:57 PM | message detail |
so turtle is saying having a debated winner of the contest is a bad thing... ...lol wut --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 3/20/2010 10:14:18 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #413 Agree. You guys are embarrassing. --- Dr Football may not have beaten the Dant-A-Meter, but he did win the Guru! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:14:40 PM | message detail |
And
what's with this Cloud invincibility thing? He's 2% away from
Snake/Samus, but Mario has consistantly proven himself to be stronger
than both of them. I think Mario wins a rematch with Cloud. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:14:48 PM | message detail |
Yes,
both characters have to get weaker before they can be beaten. But Cloud
has reasons to get weaker. He hasn't had a lead role in a game since
the turn of the century. The same cannot be said about Link. It's pretty clear that Link got weaker this year. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:15:11 PM | message detail |
From: paraboxx | #422 Eh, that's not true. I think this Link is weaker. After all, Snake and Samus are going to be worth 40%+ on him rather easily by the time this is said and done. That hasn't happened since 2002. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...Dr_Football." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:15:19 PM | message detail |
All of this discussion is for naught anyway. Lightning's going to storm (HA HA HA) the contest next year. --- If you're seeing this sig, Dr_Football won the Guru Contest! |
rpgking17 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:15:19 PM | message detail |
These
contests are fun. Period. It's not like people get hurt when we have
them. I mean, what do we lose? The usual "do you own ___ console" and
"what is your favorite breakfast cereal" polls that nobody cares about?
--- Winner of Character Battle VII |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:15:59 PM | message detail |
Link hasn't had a mainline Zelda since 2006, and TP was nowhere near as big as OoT. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 10:16:02 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #417 Definitely agree with this. Link isn't the reason this bracket is bad. We can have a great bracket with Link in it. You just have to avoid giving him SFF matches and instead put non-Nintendo characters against him that you'd want to see good barometers on. I think Link vs Master Chief, for instance, would be a pretty enlightening match. Link vs X or Link vs Luigi is just a waste. Only SFF matches Link should be having is the first round or two against Nintendo fodder and the final rounds when it's kinda unavoidable. But again, good luck getting Bacon to do that much work on the bracket! --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 10:16:36 PM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #2054 Indeed. I think a major reason people come here is that they've been a part of the community for a while. Because there's easier formats than FAQs out there, mainly wikis, which can also be visual (maps etc. ... pretty pictures FTW!). The one thing FAQs would be good for is older and obscure games, which don't have wikis. But of course the demand isn't high for that, which is the reason the supply ain't high. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
paraboxx | Posted 3/20/2010 10:16:50 PM | message detail |
It's pretty clear that Link got weaker this year. Ehh, maybe. (It'll be clearer in about 23 hours.) But will Link have a new game next year? What about Cloud? |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:17:10 PM | message detail |
I think Bacon likes seeing SFF matches for whatever reason. I can't see how else the Jenova Division could have happened. --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:17:24 PM | message detail |
The last two months have been fun and I don't see how removing Link would make those two months that more fun. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:17:57 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #434 I think Bacon is secretly a closet SC2K4 fanboy. --- "I can set you free, Dr_Football." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:18:16 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #435 By giving us actual debate over the most important match of the contest, maybe? --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:19:27 PM | message detail |
There would have been no debate, everyone would have taken Cloud. --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:19:48 PM | message detail |
By giving us actual debate over the most important match of the contest, maybe? So Cloud becomes the overall one seed and goes up against Solid Snake in the final. Oh wait we already saw that. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:20:26 PM | message detail |
I
think there would have been some people take Mario to beat Cloud, but I
don't think it would have been any more entertaining than Cloud/Snake
or Cloud/Samus was. It would've basically been the same thing the third
match in a row. --- "I can set you free, Dr_Football." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:21:18 PM | message detail |
Removing
Link is the wrong thing to do. I mean, for us, the bracket making, stat
watching club, maybe it's good, but 58% of people on the site want to
vote for Link here. It doesn't make sense to listen to the vocal
minority when most people are against the idea. He's popular, people
want to vote for him, and he only takes up what... seven matches? Who
cares? --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:21:40 PM | message detail |
Pre-contest no one would have taken Cloud to lose to anybody (besides those couple of gurus) and don't even bother to deny that. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 10:21:51 PM | message detail |
While
Link is pretty weak relative to his usual strength now, the problem is
he won't be this weak next year unless Zelda Wii turns out to be a
complete joke on the level of Sony's 2006 E3 conference. Eh, if Zelda Wii turns out to be another Wind Waker-type game that polarizes the fanbase, then maybe it is feasible for Link to fall. But then the big problem is that Cloud and Snake aren't going to get many more new games to help them, while Mario and Samus will still get their everliving **** SFFed out of them. The potential is there for Link to be taken out. The problem is that our current crew don't have the intangibles in their favor to take him out. --- Not Wylvane Dr Football Factor'd. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:22:20 PM | message detail |
Give
Link a bracket half with some lower tier NNers and high-tier elits.
Stick Samus/Snake/Cloud/Mario in the bottom half and let them duke it
out. Link Ryu/Dante/Zero/Leon Mega Man/Sephiroth/Auron/Squall Crono/Tifa/Sonic/X Cloud/Pikachu/Bowser/X Mario Snake/Vincent/Charizard/Luigi Samus/Ganondorf/Zelda Or something like that as your divisions. Great bracket preserving a bunch of our clusters of characters. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
RevolverSaro | Posted 3/20/2010 10:22:33 PM | message detail |
Quick
question. ｉｓ there any scenario where Palmer
doesn't win?　 Ｉ　mean, everyone on the
leader board has Link winning. So even if Link loses, would he still
win? --- http://i50.tinypic.com/mim44w.gif Tom Brady + Randy Moss = Ultimately Destructed |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:22:42 PM | message detail |
KH3 + SSB4 + Chrono 3 = Victory! --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:22:48 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #442 I had Snake > Cloud in my bracket. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/24y7282.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:23:05 PM | message detail |
From: RevolverSaro | #445 A Cloud winner would win. But that's a moot point. --- Dr_Football is the best Guru winner ever created. |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:23:42 PM | message detail |
So even if Link loses, would he still win? Probably not, I think someone has enough points to overtake him. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 325/384 - Today's Winner: Link |
PiGuy96 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:23:51 PM | message detail |
Snake
went from 43% to 48% on Cloud - Cloud's definitely going to be
vulnerable next year assuming KH3 or whatever doesn't come out. (Which
I think is a pretty safe assumption.) Is Link going to beatable? Almost
certainly not. If Link were replaced by LeChuck (awesome idea,
Wyvlane), we'd have gotten X/Luigi and X/Sonic, and then a Mario/Cloud
finals. That's a pretty decent step up from the current setup. --- Mustache...and Red... |
