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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 893

Haguile | Posted 3/20/2010 9:54:01 PM | message detail

And a much better and infinitely more exciting solution than this utterly lame "remove the strongest character" idea is to allow Batman to beat Link's ass down.


Batman: The answer to everything.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 9:54:20 PM | message detail
Being led for three hours by both Snake and Samus =/= coasting. Cloud is mortal. Link is not.

Hey who cares about the path when the destination is all that matters. Most of us knew Cloud was going to comeback after the first hour.
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creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 9:54:46 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #1659
...there is no chance this would matter.

It probably does. There's a reason people haven't figured out this is a popularity contest after years and years simple because it's called the 'Character Battle'.


People as in, less than 2% of the people. Just about everybody picks their favorite anyway, or else Link sure as hell wouldn't win. Really - that wouldn't make a damn bit of difference.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 9:55:12 PM | message detail
Doesn't matter Mario won fairly easily, Link may even struggle to outdo Mario on Cloud.

Well yeah, it's Cloud. Charizard and Cloud......the difference is that many characters can beat Charizard, but only Link can beat Cloud.

What am I arguing with you for though? I agree that Link shouldn't be removed from contests, and he really isn't invincible. This is the weakest Cloud since 2002, maybe ever, and he's showing us right now that Link is not invincible.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 9:55:14 PM | message detail

From: paraboxx | #349
At this rate, Cloud might end up above 46%. So much for Link being in his own "God Tier" status.

Three characters can break 46% on him - probably only one directly - and he's not on another level?


If there isn't a Zelda game for a few years, or if the new one really sucks, he'll decrease. If there's a big addition to the FF7 universe (or a remake) Cloud/Seph are definitely in contention to beat Link. If we get a really good Metroid or MGS, Samus/Snake might have a shot.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 9:56:03 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #355
If there isn't a Zelda game for a few years, or if the new one really sucks


TP didn't hurt Link.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 9:56:30 PM | message detail
Link is just sinking like a rock.

Sucks we're gonna have to deal with him another year so he can SFF half the bracket yet again.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 9:56:34 PM | message detail
A new Zelda game won't make Link go down ever.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 9:57:06 PM | message detail
TP was outstanding though, and the best Zelda since Majora's Mask. There's a reason Link spent 2005/2006/2007 beating Cloud worse than ever.

I mean, just look what Wind Waker caused.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 9:57:25 PM | message detail
Maybe tomorrow's poll will be like..."Do you think Link should be retired from future Character Battles?" or something.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/20/2010 9:57:37 PM | message detail
Better Cloud looks, the better Snake, Samus, and Jill look.

Let's mosey.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 9:57:54 PM | message detail
I think I'm done with my satire.

The moral of the story is that Link is not invincible. If Cloud can drop from 57% to 52% on a weaker Snake than so can Link. One character does not make or break the bracket.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/20/2010 9:57:58 PM | message detail
Hmm, maybe a string of several bad Zelda games might make Link go down. Sonic does seem weaker these days and I'd probably blame a lot of the bad Sonic games released in the past several years.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 9:57:58 PM | message detail
Link/Cloud 2006 Projection: Link wins with 52.79%. Yup, Cloud has picked up about 0.7% on his 2006 self in the past half hour.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 9:58:10 PM | message detail
I find it funny that people say that Link isn't invincible when he very clearly is.

Let's look at the two times Link has ever lost: 2003 and 2007.

In 2003, it was a perfect storm. FF7 was still recent. Link had his WW mug. KH was fresh. Since then, KH has faded off, FF7 is aging, OoT won its rematch in the Games Contest, and Link has had several games.

2007 was a fluke of mature bandwagon that literally took the entire internet to achieve. You really think the chances of that happening again are anything more than incredibly slim?

Link has a very good chance of never, ever losing again.

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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 9:59:04 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #362
I think I'm done with my satire.

The moral of the story is that Link is not invincible. If Cloud can drop from 57% to 52% on a weaker Snake than so can Link. One character does not make or break the bracket.


So you think that not having a debatable final match is better then having a debatable final match?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/20/2010 9:59:06 PM | message detail
Maybe tomorrow's poll will be like..."Do you think Link should be retired from future Character Battles?" or something.

Tomorrow's poll is going to be a bonus match, if we do have one. So that would have be in 2 days from now.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 9:59:10 PM | message detail
Plus Zelda Wii is supposed to come out this year.

Obviously it won't, of course, but we should at the very least get a trailer at E3, and unless the concept is bone-headed, Link will get another wave of TP-level hype and the insanity will begin again.

So we could always wait until next year to ban him. He should be back to his peak form once the hype starts building up.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 9:59:11 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #362
I think I'm done with my satire.

The moral of the story is that Link is not invincible. If Cloud can drop from 57% to 52% on a weaker Snake than so can Link. One character does not make or break the bracket.


Except Cloud has REASONS to go down. Link is just going to be the same guy for a very long time.

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 9:59:29 PM | message detail
It happened twice in 8 years. There was no real good reason to expect it to happen in either of them. It can happen again.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 9:59:38 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #363
Hmm, maybe a string of several bad Zelda games might make Link go down. Sonic does seem weaker these days and I'd probably blame a lot of the bad Sonic games released in the past several years.


Sonic actually boosted in 2006, and dropped after his Brawl appearance. I think people still had hope for him in 2006, then changed their minds with each successive crap-tier release. He'll be below 25% on BL next year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 9:59:48 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3309

Maybe something like this, only with some option about retiring Link in there somewhere.
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paraboxx | Posted 3/20/2010 9:59:58 PM | message detail
If there isn't a Zelda game for a few years, or if the new one really sucks, he'll decrease. If there's a big addition to the FF7 universe (or a remake) Cloud/Seph are definitely in contention to beat Link. If we get a really good Metroid or MGS, Samus/Snake might have a shot.

I agree with most of this. (It would take another Celda to noticably hurt Link, and Samus will never beat him. Ever.) But that's a lot of factors to ask for before Link becomes beatable, and they're not all going to happen. That first one is especially unlikely.
charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:00:10 PM | message detail
I find it funny that people say that Link isn't invincible when he very clearly is.

If finishing at what seems to be 53% on Cloud is invincible than Cloud must be pretty close himself. He broke 52% on Snake after all.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 10:01:15 PM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:01:22 PM | message detail
So you think that not having a debatable final match is better then having a debatable final match?

One match (or even seven) does not kill the bracket.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 10:01:22 PM | message detail
And Link has an underwhelming 56.59% at the end of the Power Hour.

I really think there was a Zelda deboost, though I'm sure Zelda Wii hype will nullify it by next contest.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:01:29 PM | message detail
Link has reasons to go down too. OOT is only 1 year younger than FFVII, and the site has become aware that it is Link, and not FFVII, that always wins.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 10:01:46 PM | message detail
Quit being thick. In almost all but the most extraordinary circumstances, Link never loses and usually never even comes close to losing. This is not hard to understand

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:01:46 PM | message detail
Link and Cloud still bring in the votes. This one has about 500 more votes at the end of the first hour than Cloud/Snake.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/20/2010 10:01:56 PM | message detail
This match only about 500 ahead of Cloud/Snake at this point in time. We might only be able to barely break 130000 at best here.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/20/2010 10:02:10 PM | message detail
So people are talking about the possibility of Captain Falcon > Sonic, huh?

And apparently the stats have Falcon equal to Gordon Freeman. Uhm...

GORDON FREEMAN > SONIC HERE WE COME!!!
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 10:02:26 PM | message detail
Except Link gets more games. Plenty of them. Cloud gets...a movie? The occasional KH appearence?

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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:02:44 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #376
So you think that not having a debatable final match is better then having a debatable final match?

One match (or even seven) does not kill the bracket.


Link matches are about the same amount of points as the rest of the bracket combined. Hell, the final match is worth as many points as the entire first round.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:02:47 PM | message detail
and the site has become aware that it is Link, and not FFVII, that always wins.

8 years later!
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creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 10:03:10 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #1802
I think I'm done with my satire.

The moral of the story is that Link is not invincible. If Cloud can drop from 57% to 52% on a weaker Snake than so can Link. One character does not make or break the bracket.


Yeah. Link beat everybody with 57+% in 2K2, looked more invincible than he EVER has since then - I mean seriously, it just unfathomable that someone could possibly beat him, much moreso than even today - and then lost the very next year.

And just imagine if we'd

From: KamikazePotato | #1805
In 2003, it was a perfect storm.


Yes. A perfect storm that absolutely nobody saw coming.

Is Link invincible? Actually, for practical purposes, I'd agree. But Link is *not* the reason this bracket was bad.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:03:17 PM | message detail
Quit being thick. In almost all but the most extraordinary circumstances, Link never loses and usually never even comes close to losing. This is not hard to understand

Extraordinary matches are the reason we follow these contests. That kind of victory is so much sweeter than an ordinary, expected, win.
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abdou | Posted 3/20/2010 10:03:27 PM | message detail
Cloud just needs that FFVII remake, damn you SE
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 10:04:18 PM | message detail
Link isn't the reason this bracket is bad, but he's certainly a contributing factor.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:04:29 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #384
Link matches are about the same amount of points as the rest of the bracket combined. Hell, the final match is worth as many points as the entire first round.


So instead of a bracket where 3rd, 4th and 5th round upsets will make or break you, we have a winner decided by who successfully guessed the correct option? I prefer that the later round upsets actually mean something, instead of eliminating half the brackets with a tossup final.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 10:05:03 PM | message detail
Extraordinary matches are the reason we follow these contests. That kind of victory is so much sweeter than an ordinary, expected, win.

The sub-1% chance that Link will lose in the next ten years is not worth 70 boring matches and the lack of an exciting final match.

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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:05:18 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #390
So instead of a bracket where 3rd, 4th and 5th round upsets will make or break you, we have a winner decided by who successfully guessed the correct option? I prefer that the later round upsets actually mean something, instead of eliminating half the brackets with a tossup final.


Successfully picking the winner of the contest should make you the winner... not picking lesser matches.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 10:05:19 PM | message detail
Link takes up 5.5% of the matches in this bracket. You can have a good bracket with Link in it. Heck, you can even have a good division with Link in it!
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:05:32 PM | message detail
Link isn't the reason this bracket is bad, but he's certainly a contributing factor.

Anyone could make a good bracket with Link. Heck are we really discussing that this was a bad contest? It was pretty goodIMO and Link was in it.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:06:03 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #393
Link takes up 5.5% of the matches in this bracket. You can have a good bracket with Link in it. Heck, you can even have a good division with Link in it!


A bracket with the winner predetermined is NOT a good bracket.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:06:31 PM | message detail
So if I correctly called 5 earlier round upsets that you missed, and you correctly guessed that Mario beat Cloud by .5%, you deserve to win more than me?
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rpgking17 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:06:55 PM | message detail
Ah, I wasn't even good enough to sniff the leaderboard this year. Top 100 isn't bad though, I guess.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 10:06:58 PM | message detail
It's impossible to say that keeping Link in is a good thing. It's not a world-ending thing if he is in, but why bother? Removing him improves the bracket.

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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 10:07:04 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #396
So if I correctly called 5 earlier round upsets that you missed, and you correctly guessed that Mario beat Cloud by .5%, you deserve to win more than me?


Yes, because I picked the one that mattered. round 2 upsets don't matter; the winner of the contest does.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 10:07:17 PM | message detail
KP you gotta chill out a bit. Look how hostile Link has made you.

Make sure you get everyone you know to vote for Cloud.
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