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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 892

Mumei | Posted 3/20/2010 4:55:44 PM | message detail
Not really.

What have I missed that makes some of you so certain? Why do do you think that Cloud has dropped from ~46% on Link to >40%?

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 4:56:07 PM | message detail
We are looking at the same match today, right?

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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/20/2010 4:57:40 PM | message detail
Cloud got 70% on Captain Falcon.


Can you get 70% on Captain Falcon?
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/20/2010 4:58:02 PM | message detail
Yes.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 4:58:45 PM | message detail
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Man what the hell? You can't simultaneously expect Link to be pushing 60% here and have Cloud winning an hour - any hour - outright against him. Link doesn't roll over and die overnight.


Actually, I'm one of the few people expecting Cloud to get at least 46%
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/20/2010 4:58:46 PM | message detail
And Falcon is pretty decent. But Sonic is not in his league.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 5:00:11 PM | message detail
Cloud just can't catch a break from you guys. Cloud to break 40% and take the moral victory.

Cloud couldn't even break 70% on frigging CAPTAIN FALCON.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 5:00:54 PM | message detail
Fayt_Esteed please eject yourself from this topic immediately and never return.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/20/2010 5:01:25 PM | message detail
If Cloud breaks 46% I'll add FFVII to my "need to do playthroughs with writeups" backlog, right behind the MGS series.

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Mumei | Posted 3/20/2010 5:01:36 PM | message detail
Right. But I thought that the consensus was that today's match - and Snake's match against Sephiroth - were a combination of Snake going up in strength and the FFVII characters dropping. Are we not giving Snake any credit for this? I was thinking that Snake had boosted somewhat to around just under 38 - 39%, with Cloud being just over the hump.

(I'm not sure if that math works out.)

Link got 70% on Sonic. Cloud got 70% on Captain Falcon.

Speaking of (and this is a bit of fuel for the "BANISH HIM" brigade), Link has given every NNer - 64.57% on Mario, 70.23% on Sonic, 62.82% on Crono, 56.65% on Sephiroth, 53.93% on Cloud, 62.06% on Samus, and 67.61% on Mega Man - besides Snake (57.21% from Mario) their worst losses in one-on-one competition.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 5:03:19 PM | message detail
Captain Falcon may have decent strength, but I'd have expected Cloud to at least get 70%.
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 5:03:32 PM | message detail
If Cloud breaks 46% everyone on the board will dye their hair spiky blond, carry a buster sword or plastic equivalent and do an FF7 playthrough topic. Their comments on the game must only consist of Cloud quotes and pictures.
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 5:04:13 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3850
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3854

I'm not even 100% sure Cloud beats Mario at this point. There was probably SFF in both of those matches, but not a ton. Plus no way GameFAQs is going to let Cloud look respectable after he's beaten the more beloved Snake and, in the casual eye, is looking ready to WIN THE CONTEST AGAIN BECAUSE FF7 ALWAYS WINS.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 5:04:28 PM | message detail
Cloud probably puts up 45% or so.
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Mumei | Posted 3/20/2010 5:05:31 PM | message detail
"FFVII always wins!" is perfect. Link gets the victories and Cloud gets the blame. Win-win, I say.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 5:11:38 PM | message detail
And now I'm asking myself "Just how strong can Captain Falcon be?" Captain Falcon had his true strength masked by SFF, but who would've expected Cloud to not break 70% on him pre contest?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/20/2010 5:14:47 PM | message detail
Do you guys think it would be possible to boost a pure midcarder into contention with the Noble 9? Let's take someone almost at randoooooooom.... Jill Valentine.

What would someone like Jill need? Can a starring role in RE6 and an appearance in the next Smash game be enough? Would it even get her to compete against the near-elites?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 5:16:56 PM | message detail
Jill would need to be the star of Resident Evil 6, Final Fantasy XV, team up with Snake in Metal Gear Solid 6 and be top tier in Smash Bros. 4.

Then maybe.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 5:17:46 PM | message detail
If RE6 completely changes the decrepit and crappy RE gameplay, and becomes the biggest multiplayer game of the decade, maybe.
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Mumei | Posted 3/20/2010 5:18:59 PM | message detail
Yes, 'blazer. That was completely random. No idea how you picked that character of the air.

Sidenote: Why is there an advertisement for a Sonic Sega-All Stars racing game, and why would Sonic need to drive a car for this game?

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Calintares | Posted 3/20/2010 5:19:26 PM | message detail
I got a feeling that FFVII always underperforms in the finals, is that a reasonable assumption?
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2010 5:19:43 PM | message detail
A midcarder turning into a Noble Niner? One acronym:

HL2:E3.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 5:20:36 PM | message detail
Don't be silly HaRRicH, Alyx Vance was never a midcarder.
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medicority | Posted 3/20/2010 5:22:00 PM | message detail
Lightning could be a top tier char next year, considering how well she did with a game that was not even released yet.
HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2010 5:23:59 PM | message detail
You're confusing me with Soul. I'm talking about the G-Man.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 5:24:28 PM | message detail
Cloud couldn't break 70% on Captain Falcon, yes... but Link couldn't break 72% on Alucard. It was pretty obvious in 2008 that Falcon would have beaten 'card without Diddy holding him down, too. Now, Link had Alucard at his best time while Cloud got Falcon at his worst, so I'm not trying to say anything about the actual match tomorrow. What I am saying is that Link looked pretty sorry until he hit the Nobles. If his antivotes actually came back any (ha!) I'd bank on Cloud looking semi-respectable.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 5:26:55 PM | message detail
Cloud couldn't break 70% on Captain Falcon, yes... but Link couldn't break 72% on Alucard. It was pretty obvious in 2008 that Falcon would have beaten 'card without Diddy holding him down, too. Now, Link had Alucard at his best time while Cloud got Falcon at his worst, so I'm not trying to say anything about the actual match tomorrow. What I am saying is that Link looked pretty sorry until he hit the Nobles. If his antivotes actually came back any (ha!) I'd bank on Cloud looking semi-respectable.

You have a point there.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 5:27:02 PM | message detail
I'm predicting 46%, but I'll take 45% as a moral victory for Cloud.

As for 70% on Sonic, remember this is the King of SFF we're talking about. Let's look at the last time Link was in a 1v1 main bracket:

88% on CATS
88% on Ganondorf
81% on Yoshi
63% on Crono
67% on Megaman

Now that's domination. What about the final?

51.8% on Cloud
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2010 5:28:08 PM | message detail
Link looked bad in his division, but he's wowed many of us twice since then against Noble Niners. Cloud's continuously looked bad since he won his division. Link's redeemed himself and Cloud has not.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/20/2010 5:29:29 PM | message detail
Link looked pretty sorry until he hit his SFF path which was everybody except Thrall and Alucard (Who Link did terrible against both). Nothing about Link from beyond Alucard s conclusive because it has SFF. We've seen Zelda and Ganndorf fail this contest however
Calintares | Posted 3/20/2010 5:31:18 PM | message detail
A midcarder turning into a Noble Niner?

Halo 3
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2010 5:31:25 PM | message detail
Speaking of (and this is a bit of fuel for the "BANISH HIM" brigade), Link has given every NNer - 64.57% on Mario, 70.23% on Sonic, 62.82% on Crono, 56.65% on Sephiroth, 53.93% on Cloud, 62.06% on Samus, and 67.61% on Mega Man - besides Snake (57.21% from Mario) their worst losses in one-on-one competition.

Pretty impressive yet unsurprising. Let Solid face Link sometime (besides tomorrow if Snake's bandwagon-effect had come through) and that will complete the Noble Nine. As is though, Snake's the only Noble Niner Link hasn't face one-on-one...someday that will change!
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LordLockeRA | Posted 3/20/2010 5:34:44 PM | message detail
It depends. Leon Kennedy, from the same series, got a badarse makeover in what was the most prolific Game of the Year of it's year on a game that eventually hit three platforms (GC, PS2, Wii) in what was a successful resurrection of a beloved series, and the best he can claim is that he's probably one of the strongest straight midcarders, and easily the weakest of Capcom's midcarder trio. Kratos' series has probably the highest production values a game has ever had, has one of the highest played-to-liked ratios of any game around, and is basically walking casual bait and can still drop 40% to the two-tailed weakest link of a character roster in steep decline. Terra can be the closest thing to a lead character from one of the most beloved RPGs ever made from the same series as the game that fields constant heavyweights and be high fodder at best until a modern fighting game mash-up finally puts her back in the spotlight for a second.

The fact of the matter is, there doesn't seem to be any connecting link between the NNers are a set, either- Crono, Cloud, and Sephiroth have only been in a handful of games and haven't really been a major part of anything since their debuts. Cloud and Sephiroth don't have their roots in the olden days, and Snake suffers whenever his NES-era sprite gets dragged out. Sonic and Mega Man regularly appear in terrible games, and Mario gets a botched spinoff about once a year or so too, so it's not universal game quality. Crono Trigger is a cult hit at most generous, and Mega Man hasn't ever had the following the games the other NNers get, so it's not game popularity. It's not even like all the characters have deep or complex character, with two mute heroes (Link, Crono) and two frequently-mute characters (Samus, Mario) among them, none of whom get all that much in the way of character development (although it seems like Samus is about to finally get some- let's see if that helps or hurts her any)

Pokemon is probably the closest thing we've had to a consistent new challenger, with Pikachu and Charizard both looking near-elite and Missingno proving that jokes can work 1v1 if enough people get it. It's also taken it twelve years over three generations of handheld consoles to establish itself as a contender, has possibly the highest combined sales of any series ever made, has plenty of crossover appeal, and is also one of the biggest FAQ-bait games ever made (Seriously, that helps) Nobody is going to take off overnight and suddenly become a new contender, but Jill's making the creep up, so if she keeps staying on the radar and keeps appearing in the games people are playing, she might someday make it.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/20/2010 6:07:55 PM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #430
Link looked pretty sorry until he hit his SFF path which was everybody except Thrall and Alucard (Who Link did terrible against both). Nothing about Link from beyond Alucard s conclusive because it has SFF. We've seen Zelda and Ganndorf fail this contest however


Link did better on Alucard in a night match than Cloud did on Ridley in a night match. 72% on Alucard is not sorry, especially when the timing favoured Alucard. On the other hand, Ridley is probably a day character while Cloud is a night character, and Cloud did worse than Link in that match.

Of course there's also Sephiroth looking not far off Mega Man and Cloud almost losing to Samus and Snake. Yes, SFF has obscured the stats somewhat but we can clearly see that Cloud has been doing worse than he's ever done. Discounting his iffy 2002 match against Mario Cloud had never even let anyone lead on him other than Link, and this year we see two characters in the second tier of the Noble Nine lead on him for some time.

I'm not going to say anything ridiculous like it'll be 60-40(though it would be hilarious if it was) but there's only a slim chance this won't be Cloud's worst loss ever.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/20/2010 6:08:33 PM | message detail
Nice post! I do think it's strange that Leon can get one of the strongest games of his generation and only boost up to a position I can best describe as the "upper midcard gatekeeper." It certainly seems like it takes a lot,
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/20/2010 6:10:35 PM | message detail
How can you glean anything about Mega Man when Mario curb-stomped him to below Sonic levels of X-Stats? I'm sorry but every other N9er would wipe the floor with Mega Man and Crono right now.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/20/2010 6:13:06 PM | message detail
Even X was able to perform only a little worse than Mario did. Megaman >= X is almost a given. You can't count out Megaman that easily.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/20/2010 6:14:14 PM | message detail
In what way is it a certainty?
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vcharon | Posted 3/20/2010 6:23:16 PM | message detail
Well, I admit I was wrong about this. The fact Sephiroth can easily lose and Cloud can easily win still perplexes me though. To think that many people would vote for Snake over Sephiroth, but then turn around and vote for Cloud boggles my mind.
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Mumei | Posted 3/20/2010 6:25:00 PM | message detail
It's confusing that there are some people that like all three, and order them "Cloud > Snake > Sephiroth"?

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Mister Mario | Posted 3/20/2010 6:26:37 PM | message detail
it is pretty confusing that there are people out there who like cloud, yeah
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vcharon | Posted 3/20/2010 6:27:29 PM | message detail
It's certainly plausible, but this is a pretty big swing. I wouldn't have thought so many people felt that way. After all these years, I guess I just put Sephiroth above the "hero wins" thing.
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tee316 | Posted 3/20/2010 6:28:40 PM | message detail
Well this match was very entertaining. I had Snake winning it, but not too surprised that Cloud pulled off a win.
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Mumei | Posted 3/20/2010 6:30:43 PM | message detail
The votals are looking pretty good - ~116,000 so far. I had hoped for more, though.

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LordLockeRA | Posted 3/20/2010 6:34:28 PM | message detail
You can't gleam anything from the Mega/Mario match except what we kinda already figured- Mario's the absolute worst opponent possible for the guy- he basically gets votes from the same pool of people Mega Man does being a NES-era quality platformer old school mascot, except IT'S FREAKIN' MARIO.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/20/2010 6:34:47 PM | message detail
I've been hawk-eyeing the votals all day; we're on pace for just over 125,000 right now, which I guess is alright. Much better than yesterday's, anyway.
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medicority | Posted 3/20/2010 6:35:14 PM | message detail
mega man X did way better against link than sonic so your point is... what?
LiveA_Live | Posted 3/20/2010 6:35:49 PM | message detail
come we can get to 900 before the contest ends

let's discuss who awesome a pokemon based contest would be!
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LordLockeRA | Posted 3/20/2010 6:36:46 PM | message detail
I'd vote in it.

Mankey for Pokemon Noble Nine.
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medicority | Posted 3/20/2010 6:37:33 PM | message detail
bring back mudkip. or bulbasaur, bulbasaur is awesome.