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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 892

LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 3:01:19 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #350
Didn't Leon already beat Gordon? Has Gordon boosted that much? Has Leon dropped?


Leon sprite and Tifa overperformance.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:05:39 PM | message detail
Didn't Leon already beat Gordon? Has Gordon boosted that much? Has Leon dropped?

Freeman has gained Orange Box since their last meeting plus Leon had the sprite picture.

Keeping constant between Dante and Leon Leon wins by a couple of percent less.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:06:17 PM | message detail
At this point I wouldn't call Tifa's performance an overperformance.

Vincent was SFF though.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 3:06:39 PM | message detail
Leon probably woulda gotten 2% better with a normal pic, so I wouldn't take him losign to Gordon in the xstats as anything too significant.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:09:01 PM | message detail
Good job Cloud- and he just took the lead in the USA.

For the Link vs. Everyone poll, the rest of the Noble Nine should be featured prominently in the Everyone picture.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:13:04 PM | message detail
Also, Link has to stay in the contest. If you move him to a grand final, that grand final remains the true final, so no one else can win, still. Link is only one character, and does not ruin the bracket by himself; Clinkeroth of old, on the other hand, made it very hard to set up good matches.

What do you do when you meet a character like Link you can't beat? You try again, every year, until you win. You don't give up and start a "Second Best Character Contest." That's no fun.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 3:14:37 PM | message detail
At this point I wouldn't call Tifa's performance an overperformance.

I'm still not entirely convinced that it wasn't, but to each his own.
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zenk123 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:15:45 PM | message detail
I'm for the idea of a Link vs everyone poll!

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/20/2010 3:16:21 PM | message detail
The guys arguing for Link to be retired better vote for him and hope he crushes tonight. It'll be hard to make a good "he's invincible" argument if he only beats Cloud with like 53%. That's what Snake got on Seph.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 3:16:50 PM | message detail
I can't help but think Tifa overperformed.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 3:16:58 PM | message detail
I'm convinced it was an overperformance, unless you think that Tifa is at Mario/Samus/Snake level of the noble nine.
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xp1337 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:17:04 PM | message detail
From: red sox 777 | #355
Good job Cloud- and he just took the lead in the USA.

For the Link vs. Everyone poll, the rest of the Noble Nine should be featured prominently in the Everyone picture.


If Link wins that match (and he would) we need and I wish I could take credit for this idea, Link v "Your Favorite Character"
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 3:17:18 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #359
The guys arguing for Link to be retired better vote for him and hope he crushes tonight. It'll be hard to make a good "he's invincible" argument if he only beats Cloud with like 53%. That's what Snake got on Seph.


I'm expecting 58% at least
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 3:17:44 PM | message detail
unless you think that Tifa is at Mario/Samus/Snake level of the noble nine.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2555
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:17:58 PM | message detail
Now that I think about it, I bet lots of Zelda fans would boycott the contest (or pay less attention/vote less frequently, anyway) if Link were removed. Nintendo Deboost!
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:18:17 PM | message detail
I'm convinced it was an overperformance, unless you think that Tifa is at Mario/Samus/Snake level of the noble nine.

I see Tifa ranked at around Squall, not sure what x-stats you're looking at.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 3:18:24 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #365
Now that I think about it, I bet lots of Zelda fans would boycott the contest (or pay less attention/vote less frequently, anyway) if Link were removed. Nintendo Deboost!


Didn't 2006 have excellent vote totals?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 3/20/2010 3:18:35 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #364
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2555


That was another Tifa overperformance that Samus was getting anti voted as the obvious female contest winner. I think a more accurate representation of Tifa is the first round match of 2008, where she got like 38% on Seph.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 3:18:48 PM | message detail
And Nintendo's two strongest years were the years when Link wasn't in the bracket!
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:19:15 PM | message detail
Also, Link has to stay in the contest. If you move him to a grand final, that grand final remains the true final, so no one else can win

The point (from my point of view) isn't to get a different winner artificially. It's to get a better bracket artificially.

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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 3/20/2010 3:19:24 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #354
Leon probably woulda gotten 2% better with a normal pic, so I wouldn't take him losign to Gordon in the xstats as anything too significant.


Gordon also tore Tifa apart with the ASV. Wouldn't expect Gordon of all people to be hurt by a night vote, but Tifa likely wins by a good bit more with an extra 12 hours there.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 3:19:25 PM | message detail
That was another Tifa overperformance that Samus was getting anti voted as the obvious female contest winner

It lines up pretty well with Seph/Tifa, so I'm not sure what the problem is!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:19:41 PM | message detail
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 3:20:02 PM | message detail
Fact/Fiction: Cloud wins the board vote against Link.
Fact/Fiction: Cloud wins a single hour against Link.
Fact/Fiction: Cloud suffers his heaviest defeat to Link yet.
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 3:20:09 PM | message detail
I wouldn't say "tore apart." Gordon started doing like 2% better with the ASV. Big Daddy tore Tifa apart with the ASV.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:20:35 PM | message detail
Didn't 2006 have excellent vote totals?

But Link wasn't removed, he won the contest. Also, Cloud and Sephiroth were also removed from the main bracket.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 3:21:17 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #376
Didn't 2006 have excellent vote totals?

But Link wasn't removed, he won the contest. Also, Cloud and Sephiroth were also removed from the main bracket.


Well, no one's asking for Link to be totally removed, I think. Just in a bonus poll, a la the ToC in 2005.
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xp1337 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:21:30 PM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour | #369
And Nintendo's two strongest years were the years when Link wasn't in the bracket!

Clearly Link projects a Nintendo Deboost with his presence to try and give himself a challenge.
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xp1337 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:23:03 PM | message detail
From: Denzokuken | #374
Fact/Fiction: Cloud wins the board vote against Link.

Fiction.

Fact/Fiction: Cloud wins a single hour against Link.

...Fiction. The FFVII Total Domination Zone is his only chance.

Fact/Fiction: Cloud suffers his heaviest defeat to Link yet.

Fact.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/20/2010 3:23:59 PM | message detail
Fiction. Cloud has a horrible board vote, and Link's so strong he dominates the time period regardless
MAYBE Fact. There is the 4-6 period where Nintendo is weak and FF7 is at its best.
Fact. Cloud has looked worse than ever, barring the wonkiness of 2002. Link has arguably looked his best. This is gonna get ugly.

And it will be so fun to watch.
red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:25:45 PM | message detail
I mean, I know what my response would have been in 2003 if Link had been removed from the bracket:

What? This is so unfair why do you hate Link so much darn you FFVII always wins
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/20/2010 3:37:36 PM | message detail
There's been tons of talk about Link, but how about reformatting the scoring system? I hate how points are doubled for every subsequent round. I don't care if that's how sports brackets do it; there should be more emphasis on getting EVERY match right, not just every match in the final two weeks right.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:39:11 PM | message detail
I agree with that. I think the latter rounds should be weighted more though, just not that much more. They are more important matches, and are also a better indicator of predictive ability (since we have more data on later round matches, so there is less "luck" involved).
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 3:42:49 PM | message detail
GameSpot had a nicer scoring system...

Round 1 - 1
Round 2 - 2
Round 3 - 4
Round 4 - 6
Round 5 - 10
Round 6 - 15

iirc.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/20/2010 3:45:03 PM | message detail
That's much better. I just ran through my own for this format, and I got:

Round 1 - 1
Round 2 - 2
Round 3 - 3
Round 4 - 6
Round 5 - 10
Round 6 - 15
Round 7 - 20

I kinda like the idea of having a few rounds with odd-numbered points rather than just the first.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 3:54:58 PM | message detail
ME3 isn't out until 2012 I believe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 3:58:42 PM | message detail
And Cloud should win a couple of hours overnight. Remember, X didn't drop like a rock during the usual Mega Man Suck Zone
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 4:09:21 PM | message detail
Man what the hell? You can't simultaneously expect Link to be pushing 60% here and have Cloud winning an hour - any hour - outright against him. Link doesn't roll over and die overnight.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 4:11:55 PM | message detail
I think Cloud should win at least 1 hour overnight. Strangely enough, he didn't win any hours in the first night vote in 2006, but he took the last hour of the poll to blitz his way over 46% and salvage some dignity.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 4:15:59 PM | message detail
I do think there's a small, outside shot that Cloud takes the board vote tomorrow - he took it in this match and the last 1v1 match against Link, too.

Which means just when it looks like it can't get any worse for Cloud, it will. Have fun at the slaughter, 2k3 Champion!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 4:20:34 PM | message detail
Just imagine what the board will be like if Cloud is winning through a whole minute. I expect no less than 10 topics proclaiming FFVII always wins!
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/20/2010 4:21:24 PM | message detail
I'd be impressed if Cloud got much over 40%, forget taking an hour from the elf.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/20/2010 4:32:33 PM | message detail
Dammit, Snake, your incessant falling has screwed up Terra > Tidus. We had better avoid Jecht > Terra.
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Mumei | Posted 3/20/2010 4:35:14 PM | message detail
This "Link with over 60!" talk is nuts. Cloud deserves more credit than that.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 4:44:59 PM | message detail
Cloud deserves no credit, he's not even getting 52% on a character that would be in for the fight of his life against Mega Man apparently

Link with 70%
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 4:50:49 PM | message detail

From: Mumei | #394
This "Link with over 60!" talk is nuts. Cloud deserves more credit than that.


Not really.

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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 4:53:16 PM | message detail
Cloud just can't catch a break from you guys. Cloud to break 40% and take the moral victory.
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/20/2010 4:53:30 PM | message detail
Link got 70% on Sonic. Cloud got 70% on Captain Falcon.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 4:54:13 PM | message detail
I'm sorry, but breaking 40% on Link is not a moral victory. Cloud is set to perform, at the very least, 5% worse on Link than he ever has before.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 4:55:01 PM | message detail
Captain Falcon would beat Sonic and we all know it.

(P.S. Captain Falcon isn't that weak anymore so italicizing his name as an LOL CLOUD YOU SUCK attempt doesn't really fly)
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