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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 892

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:48:44 AM | message detail
Anyway, I think we should see at least two Noble 9 rematches next year.

Mario vs. Cloud
Samus vs. Snake


We also need to see Mega Man/Sephiroth
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/20/2010 10:49:35 AM | message detail
Samus/Cloud was a night match wasn't it? Samus would probably do better with the day vote than the TDZ
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/20/2010 10:50:37 AM | message detail
You could actually take out the following characters

Link
Cloud
Seph (Winner of Villain Contest)
Mario (Winner of 2005)
Snake (Winner of Male Bracket)
Samus (Winner of Female Bracket)


and put them in a gauntlet type thing at the end. Then you have a bunch of nearelites such as MM/Sonic/Tifa/Crono/Squall/Vincent/Lightning/Charizard/Random joke character all vying for the championship. At this point, nobody really wants to see Samus blowouts or Sephiroth blowouts but you shouldn't remove them all together
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 10:51:16 AM | message detail
Samus/Cloud was a night match wasn't it? Samus would probably do better with the day vote than the TDZ

It was.
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cade | Posted 3/20/2010 10:53:12 AM | message detail
Europe is really letting Snake down, isn't Europe usually Snakes stronghold? Snake is actually beating Cloud in North America but is losing by more in the EU.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/20/2010 10:54:08 AM | message detail
When facing Cloud Strife, you have no strongholds
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 10:54:17 AM | message detail
Cloud might have slowed his gains, but he would have improved his percentage all the way until the end of the match due to how much he was leaping ahead of the bounty hunter. Unfortunately, there's no good analogs we have to project how Cloud/Samus would have gone 24 hours I think. Cloud's only had one 24 hour match this year obviously, and it's a weekend match. Even going all the way back to Samus/Cloud 2k4 doesn't help - also a weekend match.

Maybe Samus/Cloud/Mega Man/Ryu? Though Mega Man likely hampered her somewhat there.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/20/2010 10:56:20 AM | message detail
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/20/2010 10:56:20 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #231
...that's a 0.64% difference in their statistical numbers from three and a half years ago. That's pretty accurate for Squall/Auron.


It is accurate, I'm just saying it shows that Squall hasn't gotten any stronger thanks to Dissidia.

From: Karma Hunter | #227
You're comparing a twelve hour format match to a twenty four hour match - and the way Snake handled Sephiroth with the ASV, it's likely he could have increased relative to Squall with it as well as Squall's hasn't been on Seph's level. You're using Samus increasing from a match in which she was antivoted like crazy as evidence of anything. Snake is even preserving the traditional gap that Cloud and Seph have had between one another.

But, nope! This is clearly a bandwagon. Doesn't have any bandwagon trends or crazy leaps of strength, but a bandwagon nonetheless. Snake is so easy to bandwagon in fact, that it's a part of his natural strength when he faces off against any Noble Niner nowadays. So Samus gets crushed anyway.


In 2006, Snake was doing better on Squall in the first 12 hours. Snake's patterns have not changed this contest-he may have stalled Sephiroth a bit during the early ASV but he bled percentage like crazy after that and ultimately, if his match against Squall was 24 hours long he would have just bled the percentage he gained to the SNV.

Also you misunderstand me. Snake vs. Sephiroth was the bandwagon match, thanks to Samus vs. Cloud and Snake's strong start.
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/20/2010 10:56:35 AM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #251
We also need to see Mega Man/Sephiroth


In a 12-hour day match? Oh yes
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/20/2010 10:57:33 AM | message detail
Actually nevermind, in the 2008 final, Cloud actually did a little better against Snake compared to the world result.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/20/2010 10:57:52 AM | message detail
*in Europe
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 11:02:39 AM | message detail
Snake already proved his patterns had changed in 2008. The Brawl announcement shored up his day vote somewhat, but 2k8 is when he actually started winning or keeping even with characters for REAL.

For Snake/Squall 2k6, Snake jumped out to a much bigger lead but ended up bleeding much less percentage to Squall and ended up significantly behind what he would put up this year despite a slower start. Snake lost middling percentage against Seph in the ASV, it wasn't until the SNV until he started to get challenged any. And Squall doesn't have the FF7 SNV.
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creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 11:21:57 AM | message detail
Man, what with with the Metal Gear Solid Total Stagnation Zone last night? As soon as 6am hit Cloud started rear naked choking the Old Man.

I guess Snake's first night vote>FF7 first night vote. Makes some sense with Snake/Seph as I believe the FNV is correlated more with the during school vote than the SNV is, and the DSV was when Snake was really taking it to Sephiroth.

Funny how some guys are so much better or worse with the FNV than the SNV - Sora being a good example, since his FNV is ass, but his SNV is pretty decent.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/20/2010 11:23:43 AM | message detail
It's not so much a FF7 SNV I think, but rather an FF SNV which FF7 is by far the best with. Squall still showed this year that the SNV was one of his best times. I do agree that Snake's ASV has gotten a little better though. However, also remember that Snake still has the same patterns in the first 12 hours-a godly first 3 hours followed by bleeding through the rest of it. His percentage on Squall 12 hours into that match was even closer to the most recent result. It's possible Squall would bleed but, not enough so to make a large enough difference. Especially since we're hypothesising a match where Snake loses the source of what ASV he does have.

Moving on, I think we need to see a Samus/Mario rematch. Compare Samus in the battle royale to Link/Samus/Cloud/Sephiroth in 2007. Also compare her two matches with Zelda-yes she'ss gotten a bit stronger but 8% is ridiculous. I think Samus has become resistant to Nintendo SFF. Everyone always thought that Samus was an utter flop against Nintendo, but recently she's looked good.

We don't know just how strong Mario is now but it's safe to assume that stats-wise their close. It'll be interesting to see what percentage we get this time.
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 11:32:05 AM | message detail
what the crunk lightning strikes

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 11:32:22 AM | message detail
Moving on, I think we need to see a Samus/Mario rematch. Compare Samus in the battle royale to Link/Samus/Cloud/Sephiroth in 2007. Also compare her two matches with Zelda-yes she'ss gotten a bit stronger but 8% is ridiculous. I think Samus has become resistant to Nintendo SFF. Everyone always thought that Samus was an utter flop against Nintendo, but recently she's looked good.

Really? You're going to judge that Samus is resistant to SFF based off of a match against a handicapped Zelda?
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creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 11:32:50 AM | message detail
Samus would do better but she'd still get 55/45d or worse head to head.

Samus vs. Snake rematch or Samus vs. Sephiroth or Mario vs. Sephiroth or Mario vs. Cloud are better matches.

By the time next contest rolls around a ton of people would take Mario>Cloud.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/20/2010 11:33:58 AM | message detail
If we kick Link's ass to the curb, then next contest we can have legitimate champion discussions between Mario, Snake, Cloud, and Samus (as long as she doesn't meet Mario along the way).

Let's get this train a-rolling.

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/20/2010 11:38:09 AM | message detail
8% is a big way to drop, and that's not the only example I used either. I'm not saying she completely resist SFF, but she didn't get killed against Mario either.

At least I say it'd be closer than Mario/Samus vs. Sephiroth. There is honestly legitimate reason to believe that Mega Man could upset Sephiroth.
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 11:39:46 AM | message detail
move over voltch

Lightning Strikes'D
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params7 | Posted 3/20/2010 11:40:51 AM | message detail
Haha. I like vote rallying :D
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/20/2010 11:42:51 AM | message detail
Don't mind me, I'll just be here getting mocked without justification for valid arguments.


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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 11:43:16 AM | message detail
Haha. I like vote rallying :D

The match is over.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 11:43:55 AM | message detail
Snake is about to pull the biggest comeback of all time what are you talking about
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Sonic_Druid | Posted 3/20/2010 11:44:34 AM | message detail
KleenexTissue50: The match is over.

Snake: It's not over...until the mission has been finished.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 11:44:59 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter you will not win this time
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ffmasterjose | Posted 3/20/2010 11:48:04 AM | message detail
We also need to see Mega Man/Sephiroth

Actually I'd love to see this match.

Come on Bacon make it happen :D

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HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2010 11:48:29 AM | message detail
If Solid's going to do anything, he has to do it with the ASV in a few minutes. Two thousand votes is a mighty big gap for a night-character though, so this is probably over unless Cloud tanks with it even worse for whatever reason.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/20/2010 11:48:37 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #269
If we kick Link's ass to the curb, then next contest we can have legitimate champion discussions between Mario, Snake, Cloud, and Samus (as long as she doesn't meet Mario along the way).

Let's get this train a-rolling.


And isn't that the most fun? And under just the right circumstances, even Mega Man or Sonic could win.
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 11:50:01 AM | message detail
The weekend ASV won't save Snake. This match is over. Well done Cloud.
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 11:50:27 AM | message detail
If a Mario vs Cloud rematch happens, I'd be taking Cloud, actually. This way, it's win-win, since if Cloud wins, my bracket is golden, while if Mario wins, Mario will be 2-0 against Cloud and I'll be a very happy person.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 3/20/2010 11:50:52 AM | message detail
HaR...weekend match :P

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 11:50:55 AM | message detail
8% is a big way to drop, and that's not the only example I used either. I'm not saying she completely resist SFF, but she didn't get killed against Mario either.

The problem is that we're talking about the lol female bracket, and that had the same problem as the villains contest did: Everyone overperformed on the obvious favorite.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/20/2010 11:54:58 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #279
If Solid's going to do anything, he has to do it with the ASV in a few minutes. Two thousand votes is a mighty big gap for a night-character though, so this is probably over unless Cloud tanks with it even worse for whatever reason.


Weekend ASV strikes again yessssssssssssssss
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 11:58:25 AM | message detail
Saturday School kids will soon come home and vote Snake to victory.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/20/2010 11:58:52 AM | message detail
Zelda did overperform. But 8%?

Also like I said, she did a lot better against Link in 07 than she did in 06, even taking Mario into the equation. She did better on Link than Sephiroth did on Cloud, contrary to previous performances.
creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 12:03:49 PM | message detail
Someone should suggest a "Bronze Medal" bonus match of Mario vs. Snake to Bacon. That would be great.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/20/2010 12:08:30 PM | message detail
Zelda did overperform. But 8%?

You're kidding me if you think that we can make much sense from this contest.
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params7 | Posted 3/20/2010 12:10:01 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #286
Saturday School kids will soon come home and vote Snake to victory.


There's a saturday school?
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/20/2010 12:11:23 PM | message detail
There's a saturday school?

Sure... for elementary to middle school age Jews.


so uh, big voting group
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/20/2010 12:11:39 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #288
Someone should suggest a "Bronze Medal" bonus match of Mario vs. Snake to Bacon. That would be great.


He doesn't read feedbacks on weekends.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2010 12:11:47 PM | message detail
HaR...weekend match :P

Damn, I've been hearing that through-out the entire match and still forgot.


I'll send a feedback ticket suggesting a bronze-medal match, though I've already sent SB one about another bonus match we've talked about (Link/Zelda/Ganon/Midna/Tingle/Cloud). Still, can't hurt. It might help if others joined in.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 12:12:22 PM | message detail
I approve Mario vs Snake but Mario shall win easily (more than 53%).
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/20/2010 12:13:49 PM | message detail
I still say we need to see that "Link vs. Everyone" match suggested last year. I'm sure the match pic's still floating around, if in need of editing. Third place would be nice though.
HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2010 12:14:48 PM | message detail
That's right, he usually doesn't...damn this weekend-thing keeps slipping my mind!


Really, I just want a bonus poll that's relevant to our interests somehow. I didn't care much for 2007's or 2008's (though that one was funny to me), but BGE2's was cool. I just want to see either how dominant Link is or a Mario/Snake battle like we've longed for since 2008.
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Mumei | Posted 3/20/2010 12:16:27 PM | message detail
I still say we need to see that "Link vs. Everyone" match suggested last year. I'm sure the match pic's still floating around, if in need of editing. Third place would be nice though.

Kleenex posted it sometime during the final match of the 2008 contest. I forget the website that has the archived stats topics, but if someone checks those, they'll find it.

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creativename | Posted 3/20/2010 12:25:54 PM | message detail
So somebody tweet his ass then! :) Didn't he have a twitter? Does anyone here actually use that?

And in Link vs. "Everyone", "Everyone" would get doubled, maybe tripled. It's not the same without actually listing everybody with their names as an option - Link in a 128-way doesn't do very well, probably well under 30%. Link vs the option "Everyone" in 1v1, he crushes it. But he's really just crushing the option labeled "Everyone".
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/20/2010 12:27:20 PM | message detail
I'd edit the thing to include character specific to this contest, but I'm not going to spend time doing that unless I'm sure he'll use it as the bonus match.
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