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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 892

Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 3:20:38 AM | message detail
Stay where you belong; in my memories.

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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
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~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
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http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
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~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Vincent, Kirby, Missingno, Charizard, et al group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters recently.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/20/2010 4:37:27 AM | message detail
You know, I actually don't mind that Link is now completely alone up there with Cloud and Sephiroth down at the level of the mid-Noble Nine. This means we could, next contest, remove Link and only Link from the main bracket and have the winner fight him in a "CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE" match. Not only would it free up the main bracket, predicting it could be hell considering Samus, Cloud, Sephiroth, Snake, and Mario seem to be all around roughly the same level of strength.

Should someone somehow defeat Link, he could go back to the main bracket and the dude who beat him goes to sit in the bonus match.
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Guess how many teens | Posted 3/20/2010 4:40:39 AM | message detail
You know, I actually don't mind that Link is now completely alone up there with Cloud and Sephiroth down at the level of the mid-Noble Nine. This means we could, next contest, remove Link and only Link from the main bracket and have the winner fight him in a "CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE" match. Not only would it free up the main bracket, predicting it could be hell considering Samus, Cloud, Sephiroth, Snake, and Mario seem to be all around roughly the same level of strength.

Should someone somehow defeat Link, he could go back to the main bracket and the dude who beat him goes to sit in the bonus match.


This is a very good idea. Any bracket without Link in it next year would be hell to predict.
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LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 4:42:58 AM | message detail
Denzokuken If you stop supporting cloud, I'll be your girlfriend for 2 weeks.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 3/20/2010 4:44:21 AM | message detail
Woooo Cloud. Nothing against Snake, but I hate that someone as awesome as him had to appear in $$$$$$$ to become this popular...
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/20/2010 4:44:24 AM | message detail
Cloud appears to be trying to pull away... That's disheartening.

It doesn't really matter who gets smeared all over the wall tomorrow, but at least keep it exciting, you two.
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 4:47:06 AM | message detail
Hmm. A girlfriend called LORD t MAX or not supporting Cloud, I think I know which way I'm going with this one
LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 4:50:21 AM | message detail
That's just my gamefaqs username, >.> learn 2 facebook.
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Psycho_Kenshin | Posted 3/20/2010 4:52:13 AM | message detail
Snake, we love ya, keep fighting the good fight ol' buddy.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 5:00:28 AM | message detail
I will date anyone that rallies for Snake

Man, woman, insect I'm not picky really
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Psycho_Kenshin | Posted 3/20/2010 5:01:48 AM | message detail
I'm supporting Snake all the way! *Salutes* And now I'm going to bed!

Who's coming with me?
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LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 5:05:04 AM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 3/20/2010 5:00:28 AM | #010
I will date anyone that rallies for Snake

Man, woman, insect I'm not picky really


I'd rally snake, but I'm soo sleepy
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 5:06:52 AM | message detail
omg, Snake supporters are so underhanded that they are rallying by trying to SEDUCE CLOUD SUPPORTERS! Hold strong Cloud fans, they are as slippery and cunning as their chosen man.

also ~Cloud~ has my heart. now go to bed

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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 5:07:25 AM | message detail
Just as well

That response probably wouldn't auger well for more intimate requests anyway >.>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 5:07:58 AM | message detail
dammit Cloud I've had enough of your sexy wiles
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LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 5:10:08 AM | message detail
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 5:17:43 AM | message detail
And Cloud's lead on Snake has just surpassed Snake's maximum on Cloud. Now or never, old man.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/20/2010 5:23:29 AM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #010
I will date anyone that rallies for Snake

Man, woman, insect I'm not picky really


I Twitter'd for Snake after voting for him just now <_<

Looks like I missed a fun night, but this seems over. Snake needed a much bigger bandwagon-like lead than what he did overnight.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/20/2010 5:31:01 AM | message detail
Looks like Snake held great in the dead hours while getting his face smashed in with the morning vote. Maybe if this was a weekday and Snake had the Brawl ASV supporting him, he could pull off an epic comeback.

So much for hitting 900 this contest! Still, we did go through almost a hundred topics this contest.
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TheSnowVilliers | Posted 3/20/2010 5:37:57 AM | message detail
This makes me happy. Especially since I have to work overtime today. What government makes you work on a weekend anyway?

GO CLOUD!!!
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Biolizard28 | Posted 3/20/2010 5:40:27 AM | message detail
Hot damn, this is a good match.

Eff the upset train at this point, this is exciting.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 5:41:36 AM | message detail
Unless Snake can catch some fire - oh, right now would be good - pretty sure the excitement of this match is just about over.
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TheSnowVilliers | Posted 3/20/2010 5:45:24 AM | message detail
So there's obviously rallying/bandwagoning going on for Snake -- there's no reason he should have ever resisted CLOUD's TDZ. So what's the deal? Do we think rallying/bandwagoning or stuffing?
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 5:52:32 AM | message detail
Rallying, and people who like dirty old men staying up late. Cloud weathered the storm though (get it). If it was stuffing he wouldn't be up 500 votes right now.
LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 5:53:35 AM | message detail
Denzokuken go with snake, I'll marry you
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SnoicFactor | Posted 3/20/2010 5:55:04 AM | message detail
Can't believe how much cloud and sephiroth have fell off..
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 5:57:39 AM | message detail
Okay.

Comeback is on alright?

No such thing as a spike !!

Or the Promised Land for that matter.
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 5:57:46 AM | message detail
No never

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/detail.php?board=8&topic=53995502&message=594566227

this post is a crime against humanity, and Obama is considering going to war with Canada over it. What the hell were you thinking Max. I'm sorry, but we can never be an item now...this is just... to much...our differences cannot be reconciled.
LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 6:02:26 AM | message detail
OH Cloud just got cut twice!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 6:02:35 AM | message detail
two is almost three which is a trend right
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LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 6:03:51 AM | message detail
Silly FF fans, can't admit the awesome and superior-ness of tales games.
No wonder there is always a war against Tales and FF fans.
Tales fans have to fight with GOOD games
FF fans have to fight with Sales.
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 6:05:21 AM | message detail
door's open Snake, get out
red sox 777 | Posted 3/20/2010 6:06:56 AM | message detail
Okay, I'm relieved to see Cloud in the lead. I was a little afraid Snake would start a massive stallfest and delay what's inevitable for hours.....looks like he did get a massive stallfest, but after 4 AM instead of before! Well, it's okay now.

Cloud by the Hour:

1:00 | 48.35%
2:00 | 50.41%
3:00 | 50.81%
4:00 | 52.26%
5:00 | 50.48%
6:00 | 49.67%
7:00 | 53.06%
8:00 | 52.37%
9:00 | 51.74%
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
The Real Truth | Posted 3/20/2010 6:07:17 AM | message detail
Man everywhere I go I see LordTMax and every post he makes is terrible.

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LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 6:10:08 AM | message detail

From: The Real Truth | Posted: 3/20/2010 6:07:17 AM | #035
Man everywhere I go I see LordTMax and every post he makes is terrible.


Tales games are good, I"m not into your HIP Shooting games of lameness. and FF7 bad game loving -ness.
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LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 6:10:36 AM | message detail
And I've been through this I'm a Girl >.> Like FUUUUU
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 6:10:40 AM | message detail
I wake up to see Cloud in the lead as expected.

Snake isn't gone yet the US still supports him, which hasn't really shifted over night meaning there is only so much Europe and Canada can counter.
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SnoicFactor | Posted 3/20/2010 6:12:15 AM | message detail
Well, at least it looks like cloud hasn't dropped as much.. Snake has just boosted insanely maybe? Cloud vs Mario would be interesting. Snake vs Mario too.. Samus is obviously weaker. Seph.. man damn =/ Seph vs MM would be awesome to see, or sonic. Oh, and cloud prob wont break 43% on link
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/20/2010 6:12:38 AM | message detail
So I'm catching up on the stats topic at the moment. Random thoughts:

-Stop being surprised at weird board votes, people. Since 2002, the board vote has gone to whoever has the bracket support, and people almost always vote for their bracket through the entire contest.

-MWIS sucked all the fun out of Snake's run in about 10 minutes. The one bright spot of Snake losing the morning vote is this guy going away until next contest, where he'll undoubtedly show up at the worst time, act like a punk and make people root against Snake once again.

-Cloud did WAY better overnight than I thought he would. Early bracket voting or not, you'd figure Snake would have gotten bandwagoned to a much better lead.

-PIKACHU > SAMUS IN THE 5 MINUTE STATS YES.

-FF7 has lost a step overall, but the Vincent and Tifa matches kind of make it clear Seph is getting all the backlash right now. Beating Missingno might have been the worst thing Seph could have done, and it's ironic the Missingno fans take this contest more seriously than anyone else.

-To think, I got totally crucified for making fun of charon by this topic, and now everyone here is following suit and doing the same. Way to make yourself look like complete hypocrites. He hasn't even been that bad. Way better than that VAULT BOY IS A JOKE CHARACTER crusade, at least. MWIS has been way, way worse lately.

-KP: "Sephiroth has the worst fanboys I have ever seen in my entire life. I'm not talking about fans, I'm talking about fanBOYs. Sephiroth has the worst die-hard fanatics in existence, and I am fully ready to consider people starting to dislike him simply because of years of dealing with them." ; the girls are worse.

-People trying to bite on my RBY > FF7 upset after telling me how stupid it was? yessssssssss never change stat topic.

-The correct list for worst fanbases in gaming:

1 - Dota players. Anyone who disagrees has flat-out not played it that much.
2 - MMO addicts.
3 - Sonic cultists (it's the only way to describe those deviantart freaks).
4 - Soccer moms and the brat kids they constantly overprotect.
5 - Easymode casuals.
Honorable Mention - Smash Brothers tournament people. Take everything bad about 2d fighter tournament people and you get these guys.
Other Honorable Mention - Message board gamers. Inui is the classic example of why they're so bad.

And since charon asked, my opinion of good fanbases:

1 - Portal, most pleasant people around. If you think we're annoying, you just haven't played it yet is all. And the game is like 12 cents on Steam and 2 hours long, so that's your fault.
2 - EarthBound, most dedicated people around.
3 - Xenogears (I've never, ever, ever, EVER seen a Xenogears fan that wasn't completely awesome. My FF13 line was 90% Xenogears freaks and they were all very pleasant.)
4 - Metal Gear Solid (MWIS aside, since he's on a mission to make us all look as bad as possible)
5 - Fire Emblem (KP is completely insane, they only look bad recently because Shadow Dragon wasn't received well)
Honorable Mention - Silent Hill

-Why does MWIS love Snake and hate Squall? They're the exact same character, and MGS1 Snake is every bit as stupid, pompous and annoying as FF8 Squall.

-FFX-2 is indefensible.

-FF12 is also indefensible, and I actually kinda like the game. But it's terrible.

-Mortal Kombat doesn't have enough fans left to be considered in the worst. Most people left that franchise years ago.
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LordTMax | Posted 3/20/2010 6:14:19 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 3/20/2010 6:12:38 AM | #040
-FFX-2 is indefensible.

-FF12 is also indefensible, and I actually kinda like the game. But it's terrible.


I agree with this.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/20/2010 6:15:54 AM | message detail
I don't think Snake is being bandwagoned here, he seems to fall in line with his performance against Sephiroth and he had no reason to overperform in that match.

So how about that third place match against Mario?
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/20/2010 6:17:51 AM | message detail
Cloud has had enough of this mother****in Snake on his mother****in airplane wing!
Johnas Dark | Posted 3/20/2010 6:20:01 AM | message detail
Talking about cool fanbases... The only cool people I've met on XBox Live are the people who play World Series of Poker. They're all down-to-earth folks. Every once in a blue moon, you'll run into someone who acts like a jerk and tries to talk smack all the time. But their tenure is short lived when you crush their straight with four kings . : P
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/20/2010 6:20:46 AM | message detail
there's no reason he should have ever resisted CLOUD's TDZ.

You mean, other than the fact that Snake has a night vote and is popular in Europe?

most pleasant people around. If you think we're annoying, you just haven't played it yet is all.

GLADOS IS NOT A JOKE CHARACTER SHUT UP THE CAKE IS NOT A LIE ARGHHHHHH

-To think, I got totally crucified for making fun of charon by this topic, and now everyone here is following suit and doing the same.

Ha, no one's treating him anywhere near as badly or as annoyingly as you did. He's not getting treatment any differently than a lot of people in this topic get.

-People trying to bite on my RBY > FF7 upset after telling me how stupid it was? yessssssssss never change stat topic.

It's still very stupid. At the very worst, it goes just like Sephiroth/Missingno.

-Why does MWIS love Snake and hate Squall? They're the exact same character, and MGS1 Snake is every bit as stupid, pompous and annoying as FF8 Squall.

We already had this discussion a few topics ago!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 6:21:40 AM | message detail
I guess the fact that this appears to be legit from Snake is somewhat more heartening (stress the appearing part). He'd have to be favored for indirect placement above Samus, anyway.

But I'd rather have seen a bottom tier NN Snake get bandwagoned and win today tbqqh
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Johnas Dark | Posted 3/20/2010 6:24:07 AM | message detail
This match would be more exciting if it weren't a far gone conclusion that the winner of this is going to get pulverized by Link tomorrow.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 3/20/2010 6:26:34 AM | message detail

From: Johnas Dark | #047
This match would be more exciting if it weren't a far gone conclusion that the winner of this is going to get pulverized by Link tomorrow.


Snake, in my opinion, would have a much larger chance of beating Link than Cloud would.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/20/2010 6:28:45 AM | message detail
Eh, if Snake can't muster up a bandwagon here against Cloud, no reason he'd be able to do it against the tyrant. Cloud should look better assuming no backlash (and really, how much more backlash can this site really deliver against the guy).
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