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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 890

GrapefruitKing | Posted 3/19/2010 9:40:33 PM | message detail
well Cloud

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charmander6000 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:40:51 PM | message detail
At what point should Cloud be winning in Europe?

When they wake up, it's 4:40am over there (at least in London)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/19/2010 9:41:37 PM | message detail
For the record, Snake's lead against Cloud last year peaked at 773 and ended at 323.

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xp1337 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:42:15 PM | message detail
This is kind of odd, I was in such a doom and gloom mode over Cloud, that honestly, this should still count as exceeding expectations so far based on my expectations then, but Cloud did so well early on, that I'm actually getting increasingly nervous the longer Cloud lets this go on.
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DidYouMWISMe | Posted 3/19/2010 9:42:31 PM | message detail
I understand the argument that heroes depreciate value at a slower rate than villains, which explains why Cloud might have lost less percentage support than Sephiroth.

...But how does this seemingly explain Sephiroth losing a larger chunk of his base than Tifa or Vincent?
Maybe the playable characters lose less than the NPCs? Or maybe Tifa just benefits from being attractive to look at and Vincent benefits from having Dirge of Cerberus as a recent release? Maybe there's a core group of FFVII voters who'll vote for any FFVII character, and then another splintering group of voters who remember FFVII but only feel a strong affinity towards the main character (Cloud,) with the net result being that Sephiroth appears to lose the most support while Tifa and Vincent's support remains relatively constant?

...Heck, I dunno, man.
paraboxx | Posted 3/19/2010 9:43:20 PM | message detail
Okay, it's getting harder and harder to believe Snake drops this harder than Samus. Especially if you just count the first twelve hours.

In that case, I want him to win.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/19/2010 9:43:47 PM | message detail
Maybe people are slowly starting to realize that Sephiroth isn't really all that brilliant an antagonist?
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vcharon | Posted 3/19/2010 9:43:51 PM | message detail
The reason I am commenting about how this is stupid is because if this was me whining (especially if the character I was backing was winning decently) I'd be told to stop whining, "vcharon post" or something of that nature. If you guys really don't like to see whining, stop whining yourselves. It's really ridiculous, and it doesn't even begin to make any sense to whine about something Snake has well under control at this point.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/19/2010 9:44:30 PM | message detail
Dirge of Cerberus came out nearly 5 years ago. It's not all that recent.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/19/2010 9:44:38 PM | message detail
Lol Kratos > Sonic in the stats.

And lol Master Chief. Can't even finish above characters who you wiped the floor with two years ago in these stats. I've always been a supporter of Kratos > Chief, but man, this...

And apparently the stats where Gordon Freeman escapes the doubling from Sephiroth...well, it's because of Sephy's weakness now and not Freeman's strength, lol.

Maybe villains fall much faster than good guys?
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/19/2010 9:44:54 PM | message detail
Maybe Vincent and Tifa benefited from being directly against Seph and would have both gotten killed against Pikachu or something.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/19/2010 9:45:03 PM | message detail
Maybe Sephiroth is just getting some backlash? It's becoming increasingly more common find people on the internet going "Sephiroth? Most overrated dude EVER, he sucks" than it used to. Kind of like what Sonic is doing only not as bad.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/19/2010 9:45:10 PM | message detail
I think Sephiroth is a good antagonist. He's just not in a very good game and he's overexposed now.
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Lopen | Posted 3/19/2010 9:45:10 PM | message detail
Sephiroth is a brilliant antagonist what are you talkin about.
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DidYouMWISMe | Posted 3/19/2010 9:45:12 PM | message detail
Maybe people are slowly starting to realize that Sephiroth isn't really all that brilliant an antagonist?

One could only hope.
If the trend continues, though, Sephiroth and Crono -- two of the stronger NN characters in past years -- will be two of the weakest NN characters (and beaten by non-NNers) by 2K12.
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:45:17 PM | message detail
this may have been asked already,but


do you guys think this Seph/Cloud not being as good stuff means FFVII might not even be the number 2 game on the site anymore?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/19/2010 9:45:30 PM | message detail
Cloud with a cut three times as large as his first!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/19/2010 9:45:36 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #208
The reason I am commenting about how this is stupid is because if this was me whining (especially if the character I was backing was winning decently) I'd be told to stop whining, "vcharon post" or something of that nature. If you guys really don't like to see whining, stop whining yourselves. It's really ridiculous, and it doesn't even begin to make any sense to whine about something Snake has well under control at this point.


Why are you whining about other people whining right now?
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xp1337 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:45:54 PM | message detail
...But how does this seemingly explain Sephiroth losing a larger chunk of his base than Tifa or Vincent?

I'm kind of hesitant to go this route, but could late-contest Sephiroth have suffered a backlash from having defeated Missingno, causing him to underperform in every single match past then?

I know this kind of dragging back the "revenge vote" thing, and really it's hard to imagine the Missingno crowd would have gone Sephiroth anyway, not to mention it doesn't explain the pre-Missingno matches, but... I also can't reconcile why Sephiroth seemingly drops off, but Tifa and Vincent seem pretty much unscathed in comparison.
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creativename | Posted 3/19/2010 9:45:58 PM | message detail
Man, I'm reading earlier in the topic and even at the 15 minute mark people are thinking the match is up in the air?? Wow!

I checked this at the 3 minute mark, went "Match over, Cloud wins, sweet" and went back to playing FF12!

I mean I suppose you never know, but Cloud should win this pretty handily, I would think.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:46:01 PM | message detail
Don't yell at me for saying this, Sephiroth fans, but Cloud is the deepest character in FFVII, and extremely likable too, whereas Sephiroth is all style and no substance. It makes sense that what people thought was cool in 1997 no longer is so appealing, whereas they continue to like a more substantive character.
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vcharon | Posted 3/19/2010 9:46:12 PM | message detail
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:46:15 PM | message detail
vcharon's whining is so meta now
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/19/2010 9:46:29 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #216
this may have been asked already,but


do you guys think this Seph/Cloud not being as good stuff means FFVII might not even be the number 2 game on the site anymore?


Oh, there's no way any game is going to be overtaking FFVII as the #2 game any time soon. There isn't another game that could break 40% on it legitimately one-on-one, I think.
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vcharon | Posted 3/19/2010 9:46:32 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #218
Why are you whining about other people whining right now?


To see you whine about me whining about you whine, I guess.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:46:33 PM | message detail
FF7 is still the #2 game on the site for sure. The only think that might be able to challenge it is Pokemon, and even that's up in the air.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/19/2010 9:46:51 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #217
Why are you whining about other people whining right now?


Why do you not have that guy on ignore? I can't keep him on ignore if you keep quoting his incessant whining >_<

also, yowch Snake. Pull yourself together!
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raytan7585 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:46:51 PM | message detail
Another cut from Cloud!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/19/2010 9:47:02 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #220
Don't yell at me for saying this, Sephiroth fans, but Cloud is the deepest character in FFVII, and extremely likable too, whereas Sephiroth is all style and no substance. It makes sense that what people thought was cool in 1997 no longer is so appealing, whereas they continue to like a more substantive character.


This actually makes sense and goes along with what I was saying.

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dethfdddddh | Posted 3/19/2010 9:47:20 PM | message detail
Doesn't Sephiroth usually catch more hate than Cloud, for whatever reason?
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/19/2010 9:47:50 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #219
went back to playing FF12!


ewww, why would you tell us that like it was a good thing
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/19/2010 9:47:52 PM | message detail
Remember gang:

--Solid edged Sephiroth-with-Cloud out in 2006's Battle Royale.
--Solid just beat Sephiroth one-on-one for twelve hours.
--Solid led Cloud every second of the final two matches in 2008.
--Solid reached the championship the past three contests (assuming the bracket-final/Battle Royale was the championship).

Solid is not giving this decisive match without a fight, even if the lead isn't that big right now. Cloud should cut it down at some point, but he shouldn't have an easy time passing him.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:48:07 PM | message detail
3-vote cut when Cloud doesn't drop between updates.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/19/2010 9:48:13 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #211
Maybe Vincent and Tifa benefited from being directly against Seph and would have both gotten killed against Pikachu or something.


Not arguing with that!

From: MoogleKupo141 | #216
this may have been asked already,but


do you guys think this Seph/Cloud not being as good stuff means FFVII might not even be the number 2 game on the site anymore?


The way things are looking, there will most likely be three characters from Pokemon RBY in the Top 10 compared to the two from FF7.

RBY > FF7 next Games Contest confirmed!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/19/2010 9:48:30 PM | message detail
And, while this may seem harsh, Sephiroth has the worst fanboys I have ever seen in my entire life.

I'm not talking about fans, I'm talking about fanBOYs. Sephiroth has the worst die-hard fanatics in existence, and I am fully ready to consider people starting to dislike him simply because of years of dealing with them.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/19/2010 9:48:58 PM | message detail
And, while this may seem harsh, Sephiroth has the worst fanboys I have ever seen in my entire life.

I think we got a nice taste of this yesterday!
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Xuxon | Posted 3/19/2010 9:49:08 PM | message detail
Why are people saying Vincent still looks good? He may have been SFFed more than Tifa, but with how weak Sephiroth looks, I definitely think he's lost a step.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/19/2010 9:49:10 PM | message detail
Actually, wait, forgot about Sonic fanboys.

...Well that only strengthens my argument!

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:49:38 PM | message detail
Really? I find Master Chief and Ganondorf fanboys much worse.
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paraboxx | Posted 3/19/2010 9:49:46 PM | message detail
RBY > FF7 next Games Contest confirmed!

Beat me to it.
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/19/2010 9:49:55 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #232
And, while this may seem harsh, Sephiroth has the worst fanboys I have ever seen in my entire life.


Oh man, did I tell you the story of the one guy who had the shrine to Sephiroth and how when he died, he would join his God in the lifestream?

****ing sad
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/19/2010 9:50:07 PM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #237
Why are people saying Vincent still looks good? He may have been SFFed more than Tifa, but with how weak Sephiroth looks, I definitely think he's lost a step.


Well, I think people are giving Vinny benefit of the doubt, for whatever the reason, simply because there's no way to tell for sure if he has or not.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/19/2010 9:50:18 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #238
Really? I find Master Chief and Ganondorf fanboys much worse.


Ganondorf has fanboys?

Chief is up there.

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xp1337 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:50:26 PM | message detail
No gain that update.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/19/2010 9:50:29 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #239
Really? I find Master Chief and Ganondorf fanboys much worse.


The fact that Ganondorf has fanboys at all is a crime against humanity.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/19/2010 9:50:30 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #239
Really? I find Master Chief and Ganondorf fanboys much worse.


Sounds like an interesting combination.
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DidYouMWISMe | Posted 3/19/2010 9:50:42 PM | message detail
I have to confess that it is somewhat surprising, though, that 2500+ people who prefer Snake over Sephiroth would double-take and support Cloud over Snake.

I mean I know there are different voters this time around and some variance there and yadda yadda, but that's just surprising.
And I'm not sure how the argument that Snake benefited from Samus supporters against Sephy works, insofar as you'd think those same Samus supporters would want Snake to beat the character that actually beat Samus.
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/19/2010 9:50:57 PM | message detail
The way things are looking, there will most likely be three characters from Pokemon RBY in the Top 10 compared to the two from FF7.

RBY > FF7 next Games Contest confirmed!



I'd be super tempted to take that upset.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/19/2010 9:51:05 PM | message detail
But yes, the Sonic fanbase is the worst in gaming. Never happy with anything/furries/like Shadow/etc

Man, Snake is gonna hold onto that lead as long as he can
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paraboxx | Posted 3/19/2010 9:51:24 PM | message detail
I find Master Chief and Ganondorf fanboys much worse.

...where do you even find Ganondorf fanboys? Closest I've come is some Smash forums, back when he was considered competitive. In Melee.