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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 889

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/18/2010 9:09:55 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvJHz8ZDtmA

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Vincent, Kirby, Missingno, Charizard, et al group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters recently.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/18/2010 9:10:36 PM | message detail
X > Mega Man?

Not sure how I feel about that
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 3/18/2010 9:32:29 PM | message detail
Well, I guess that Mario boost idea is out the window. And the Sonic match is starting to look more like an expected result.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:33:26 PM | message detail
I want to see a Link vs Everybody match. I honestly think Link would win. Can't wait for Link/Cloud.
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DidYouMWISMe | Posted 3/18/2010 9:34:13 PM | message detail
From the last topic:

LOL @ People thinking ME 2 was even good.

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It's opinions like these that make me feel great shame for the modern state of gaming.
If Mass Effect 2 can't impress you I can't imagine what would.
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 9:34:32 PM | message detail
Did...did Link just double Mario on that last update?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 9:34:41 PM | message detail
Fourth Quarter X-Stats Bracket

(1) Solid Snake
(16) Guybrush Threepwood

(8) Gordon Freeman
(9) Ness

(5) Auron
(12) Soap MacTavish

(4) Squall Leonhart
(13) Marcus Fenix

(6) Zero
(11) Darth Revan

(3) Crono
(14) Geno

(7) Aerith Gainsborough
(10) Protoman

(2) Missingno
(15) Jak


(1) Sephiroth
(16) Ellis

(8) Big Daddy
(9) Princess Peach

(5) Vincent Valentine
(12) Akuma

(4) Tifa Lockhart
(13) Banjo

(6) Commander Shepard
(11) Marth

(3) Yoshi
(14) Lloyd Irving

(7) Fox McCloud
(10) Terra Branford

(2) Pikachu
(15) Yuri Lowell
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voltch | Posted 3/18/2010 9:35:38 PM | message detail
I'd still take guybrush over ellis damnit...scout from TF2 however.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/18/2010 9:35:48 PM | message detail

From: DidYouMWISMe | #005
From the last topic:

LOL @ People thinking ME 2 was even good.

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It's opinions like these that make me feel great shame for the modern state of gaming.
If Mass Effect 2 can't impress you I can't imagine what would.


You have to learn that some people just have really, REALLY bad taste and opinions.
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zenk123 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:35:58 PM | message detail
X > Mega Man?

Not sure how I feel about that


I'd love to see that next year.

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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:36:10 PM | message detail

From: DidYouMWISMe | #005
LOL @ People thinking ME 2 was even good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eeruIZ0T44&feature=related
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/18/2010 9:36:19 PM | message detail
Did...did Link just double Mario on that last update?

Yep. Well, almost.

Anyways, Mario recovered a bit on this update.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:36:22 PM | message detail
Aw, well that streak of gains had to end. Link hasn't doubled Mario on any update yet, but he's no stranger to it- in last year's semifinal, he ended with 66.28% on Mario, after all, so he was above the doubling on many updates.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/18/2010 9:36:25 PM | message detail

From: RPGuy96 | #004
I want to see a Link vs Everybody match. I honestly think Link would win. Can't wait for Link/Cloud.


I'm sure he does. I would vote Link over Everybody unless Jill was in Everybody's pic, and even then it'd be a coin flip. The guy is just too beastly. He's iconic, heroic, awesome, the whole nine yards. He's impossible to hate and has the strongest game around. Like Mumei just told me, those who hate him around here do so only for his dominance, but guess what, guys, people just like Link that goddamn much. He's never needed a bandwagon or any kind of outside support. The people, the EVERYDAY GAMEFAQS PEOPLE, love Link.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:36:56 PM | message detail
Top 10 Changes

Top 10 Smallest Night Vote Gaps
1. Pokemon Trainer Red – 29195 vs. Revolver Ocelot – 29013 (R1) – 182
2. Jecht – 26287 vs. Phoenix Wright – 23592 (R1) – 2695
3. Cloud Strife – 31335 vs. Samus Aran – 27999 (R5) – 3336
4. Sephiroth – 35286 vs. Missingno – 31445 (R3) – 3841
5. Terra Branford – 27612 vs. Darth Revan – 23647 (R1) – 3965
6. Big Daddy – 25790 vs. Ness – 21649 (R2) – 4141
7. Bowser – 28367 vs. Sora – 23493 (R3) – 4874
8. Solid Snake – 28345 vs. Pikachu – 23003 – 5342
9. Jecht – 26156 vs. Ratchet – 20416 (R2) – 5740
10. Auron – 28175 vs. Zero – 21524 (R2) – 6649


Top 10 Most Popular Night Polls
1. Sephiroth vs. Missingno – 66731
2. Link vs. Thrall (R1) – 60599
3. Link vs. Alucard (R2) – 59971
4. Cloud Strife vs. Samus Aran (R5) – 59334
5. Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Revolver Ocelot (R1) – 58208
6. Link vs. Luigi (R4) – 57731
7. Mario vs. Big Boss (R2) – 57211
8. Cloud Strife vs. Chris Redfield (R2) – 56563
9. Charizard vs. Duke Nukem (R1) – 56465
10. Leon Kennedy vs. Vault Boy (R1) – 55924


Top 10 Most Popular Day Polls
1. Missingno vs. Crono (R1) – 91081
2. Solid Snake vs. Sephiroth (R5) – 86776
3. Charizard vs. Bowser (R4) – 83524
4. Cloud Strife vs. Ryu (R4) – 82222
5. Charizard vs. Kratos (R2) – 82168
6. Charizard vs. L-Block (R3) – 81553
7. Mega Man X vs. Captain John Price (R1) – 81068
8. Pikachu vs. Commander Shepard (R2) – 80790
9. Sephiroth vs. Tifa Lockheart (R4) – 80421
10. Amaterasu vs. Shadow the Hedgehog (R1) – 79846


Top 10 Most Impressive Night Losers
1. Missingno (R3) – 31445
2. Revolver Ocelot (R1) – 29013
3. Samus Aran (R5) – 27999
4. Darth Revan (R1) – 23647
5. Phoenix Wright (R1) – 23592
6. Sora (R3) – 23493
7. Heavy (R1) – 23427
8. Donkey Kong (R1) – 23379
9. Pikachu (R3) – 23003
10. Squall Leonhart (R4) – 22638

Top 10 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Crono (R1) – 45277
2. Sephiroth (R5) – 40822
3. Shadow the Hedgehog (R1) – 37852
4. Bowser (R4) – 37813
5. Yoshi (R2) – 37674
6. Kratos (R2) – 37392
7. Dante (R2) – 37139
8. Princess Peach (R1) - 36330
9. Albert Wesker (R1) – 36013
10. Charizard (R5) – 35896


Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Charizard vs. Bowser (R4) – 3.17%
2. Charizard vs. L-Block (R3) – 8.83%
3. Missingno vs. Yoshi (R2) – 14.06%
4. Ryu Hayabusa vs. Master Chief (R2) – 15.87%
5. Solid Snake vs. Sephiroth (R5) – 18.31%
6. Vivi vs. Altair (R2) – 18.46%
7. Charizard vs. Kratos (R2) – 18.62%
8. Missingno vs. Crono (R1) – 21.94%
9. Ryu vs. Leon Kennedy (R3) – 22.76%
10. Bowser vs. Sora (R3) – 25.47%


Since the last three matches are 24 hours the only Top 10 lists that they are eligible for are:

Biggest Blowout
Closest Matches
Easiest Matches to Predict (Technically)
Hardest Matches to Predict
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LordTMax | Posted 3/18/2010 9:37:25 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | Posted: 3/18/2010 9:35:48 PM | #009
You have to learn that some people just have really, REALLY bad taste and opinions.


ME 1 was better than ME 2 Just saying.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 9:38:10 PM | message detail
Link would probably beat "Everyone" because "Everyone" is too vague.

You should just ask "Is Link your favorite character?"

Does "Yes" break 50%?
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/18/2010 9:38:45 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #014
He's impossible to hate


I remember one guy who hated Link because he looks like a cross between Michael Jackson and Peter Pan.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:38:59 PM | message detail
No, Link loses that one easily. But he beats everyone. I'd vote for Crono over Link of course, but I'd vote for Link over "everyone."
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All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 9:39:10 PM | message detail
It's not that hard to hate Link if you're really into contests!
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voltch | Posted 3/18/2010 9:39:10 PM | message detail
how bout post contest.
Did Link Deserve to win?

Linkification of Gamefaqs...COMPLETE!
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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 3/18/2010 9:39:52 PM | message detail
Does "Yes" break 50%?

Yes would break 60 I think.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/18/2010 9:39:54 PM | message detail

From: LordTMax | #016
ME 1 was better than ME 2 Just saying.


Worse cast, terrible Mako sections, convoluted menus, less refined combat? LOLno
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/18/2010 9:39:56 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #017
Link would probably beat "Everyone" because "Everyone" is too vague.

You should just ask "Is Link your favorite character?"

Does "Yes" break 50%?


That's a boring poll, though. I say he'd do damn well to get FFVII's 24% from that Top 100 contest.
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DidYouMWISMe | Posted 3/18/2010 9:40:02 PM | message detail
ME 1 was better than ME 2 Just saying.

Fighting in infinite copies of the same generic warehouse was better than fighting in unique environments?

...Heh, I learned something new today.
Something absolutely ridiculous.
But something new.
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:40:29 PM | message detail
Right, the fact that it's vague is kinda the point though. If you made a ten way poll (or even lots of fourway polls) Link doesn't get 50%...but I wonder how many people would just see the "Link" there and instinctively vote for him, without thinking "No way man, Sigurd is actually my favorite character!"
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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 3/18/2010 9:41:31 PM | message detail
Link is the first case of hating a character because of the contest.

Snake comes close, but he's a lot better than Link is so I can't actually hate him.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:41:38 PM | message detail
Looks like Mario just got up.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/18/2010 9:42:09 PM | message detail

From: DidYouMWISMe | #025
Fighting in infinite copies of the same generic warehouse was better than fighting in unique environments?


Oh man, are you telling me that ME2 got rid of the original game's TWO DIFFERENT stock indoor layouts? Thank god, Bioware.
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paraboxx | Posted 3/18/2010 9:43:13 PM | message detail
Damn, Link really is on another level.

I never liked the contests that took previous winners out of the running. They always felt cheap and artificial. But if Link keeps this up in the finals, I really would support keeping him off the next bracket. He just ruins too many good matchups. What if we'd gotten to see Mario vs. Cloud this year? Or X vs. Luigi? Or Mario vs. Sonic? (Okay that wouldn't have been a good matchup, but still.)

On another note, that musical montage pic is inspired. Which pic topic is the right one again?
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 9:43:23 PM | message detail
Chart from yesterday's match:

Time | Snake | Sephiroth | Votes
0:05 | 58.21% | 41.79% | 1048
1:00 | 54.81% | 45.19% | 10010
2:00 | 54.33% | 45.67% | 8654
3:00 | 54.86% | 45.14% | 8441
4:00 | 54.06% | 45.94% | 8631
5:00 | 53.15% | 46.85% | 8086
6:00 | 52.49% | 47.51% | 7960
7:00 | 52.84% | 47.16% | 7471
8:00 | 51.26% | 48.74% | 6532
9:00 | 51.72% | 48.28% | 5536
10:00 | 50.49% | 49.51% | 5488
11:00 | 50.69% | 49.31% | 5250
12:00 | 50.92% | 49.08% | 4717

Snake dominates the first four hours, but Sephiroth gradually does better and better. Couldn't quite win an hour though.

LOL MWC
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/18/2010 9:43:36 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #029
Oh man, are you telling me that ME2 got rid of the original game's TWO DIFFERENT stock indoor layouts? Thank god, Bioware.


Yes, the missions have actual variety now. Big step up from "different color building"
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voltch | Posted 3/18/2010 9:44:07 PM | message detail
Link so good, breaking 30% on him is standard requirment to be considered super elite.
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DidYouMWISMe | Posted 3/18/2010 9:44:19 PM | message detail
Worse cast, terrible Mako sections, convoluted menus, less refined combat? LOLno

Agreed on most accounts, but I will concede one thing.
While controlling the Mako was, for the most part, an absolute chore...
...There were a few planets where the environment was absolutely stunning to behold.
There's this one planet in Maji where you see this:

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/File:MajiScreenshot.jpg

And it's gorgeous.

I did miss that about ME. One of the few things ME did well, give you that brief tingling sensation that you were exploring new worlds.

...Unfortunately, then the Mako would bug out on you and ruin the experience.
But that initial thrill was still great.
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/18/2010 9:44:31 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/18/2010 9:45:27 PM | message detail
I'm currently playing ME1 now, and the Mako missions are a perfect example of stuff that could/should have been cool but gets overused to hell and back to the point where it kind of sucks.

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LordTMax | Posted 3/18/2010 9:46:47 PM | message detail
Lol Whatever, I think Bioware is horrid anyway like all western RPG's.
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DidYouMWISMe | Posted 3/18/2010 9:47:50 PM | message detail
Lol Whatever, I think Bioware is horrid anyway like all western RPG's.

That's funny.
I used to be a huge JRPG fan who thought the western companies were doing it all wrong.
Then KOTOR and Mass Effect came out, and Final Fantasy came out with X-2 and XIII.

...Now I'm convinced it's Bioware's responsibility to save us all from terrible RPGs.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:48:28 PM | message detail

From: DidYouMWISMe | #038
...Now I'm convinced it's Bioware's responsibility to save us all from terrible RPGs.


Don't forget Bethesda, too! They have some awesome WRPGS as well
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:49:18 PM | message detail
X-Stat Fun Facts:

Weakest character to win a match: Master Chief
Weakest character to win two matches: Ryu Hayabusa
Weakest character to win three matches: Kirby

Strongest character that didn't win a match: Revolver Ocelot
Strongest character that didn't win two matches: Kratos
Strongest character that didn't win three matches: Mega Man X
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voltch | Posted 3/18/2010 9:49:58 PM | message detail
did he just call FFXIII terrible?

Worse Birthday Ever.
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LordTMax | Posted 3/18/2010 9:50:27 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | Posted: 3/18/2010 9:48:08 PM | #039
LOL weeaboo


I hate japan though, They just know how to make GOOD Rpg's.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:51:41 PM | message detail
Oh, and only person under 10% on Link: Sandal

Which speaks to the whole anti-blowoutFAQs thing.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/18/2010 9:51:58 PM | message detail
They're not even RPGs for God's sake. Ugh, whatever let's talk about something more exciting, like Link! His matches are always so fun and interesting.
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Julian_Caesar | Posted 3/18/2010 9:52:02 PM | message detail

From: DidYouMWISMe | #068
Then KOTOR and Mass Effect came out, and Final Fantasy came out with X-2 and XIII.


Every time I agree with something like this, I inwardly sob at the awful series of unfortunate circumstances that made KoToR 2 the biggest gaming disappointment of my life.

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DidYouMWISMe | Posted 3/18/2010 9:52:27 PM | message detail
Anyway KP, I told you to blaze through ME1 so you can get to the sweet, refined goodness of ME2!

So apparently there's a contingency of ME1 > ME2 folks and a contingency of ME2 > ME1 folks.

...Heh. Personally, I do think ME2 is the far better game -- though that's to be expected, it was released a couple years later. I love both games. Rating ME2 over ME1 is purely perfunctory. Both games were phenomenal, mind-blowing experiences that revealed what playing a great RPG should always feel like. And both games had endearing characters, some pretty sweet plot developments, and Shepard punching female reporters and picking fights with aliens.
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:52:39 PM | message detail

From: LordTMax | #043
I hate japan though, They just know how to make GOOD Rpg's.


Except that their RPGs aren't really rpgs at all, outside of leveling and stats. You don't role play or anything... WRPGs are the true RPGs. JRPGs are more of a storybook game, since you follow a story instead of actively partaking in crafting it.
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voltch | Posted 3/18/2010 9:52:49 PM | message detail
awww, TMax hates me country.
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