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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 886

UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/18/2010 7:48:52 AM | message detail
Given how much Cloud is crushing with the day vote against someone much stronger than Snake, Sephiroth should be fine. Seph gets the full benefit of the FF7 day vote and MGS being bad at night.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/18/2010 7:51:22 AM | message detail
I wouldn't bet on Galaxy 2 having a whole lot of hype here. It's currently Gametrailers' 2nd most anticipated game, but that was a list that had Final Fantasy XIII at 10th. Lol.

Personally this match proves to me that Mario is stronger than Cloud now, because I don't believe the jibber-jabber about Samus being stronger than Mario indirectly. I think Mario should be a good deal stronger actually.

I'd definetely pick Snake over Samus and Cloud over Sephiroth. Snake > Sephiroth is looking better and better...

About that thing with Kojima saying that Snake's story is done, well, I believe Super Metroid was meant to be the last Metroid game, no?

I'll be gone for some time in a few minutes to study for tomorrow's exam. Shame I can't get to Snake/Sephy until about 3 hours before it's over then.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/18/2010 7:53:03 AM | message detail
Yeah, Snake's story is over. Kojima has said it more than once.
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vcharon | Posted 3/18/2010 7:53:36 AM | message detail
That's a lot different. MGS is very story driven and Snake probably only has a few years of life left at the conclusion of MGS4.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 7:53:50 AM | message detail
against someone much stronger than Snake

Wait, what?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/18/2010 7:55:25 AM | message detail

From: vcharon | #304
That's a lot different. MGS is very story driven and Snake probably only has a few years of life left at the conclusion of MGS4.


Probably. But no matter how strong you are, you need new games. Not spinoffs, not cameos. Games. At this point Snake's next boost would probably be Smash 4, and that's years away.

Look at Chrono Trigger and FF7. They've lost a step, a huge one in CT's case.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 7:56:10 AM | message detail
Yeah, but it took them about 10 years to lose that step. Snake will be fine for a long while.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/18/2010 7:56:28 AM | message detail
On the bright side, Samus > Missingno!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/18/2010 7:57:12 AM | message detail
Yeah, FFVII's been slowly falling since 2003. So slowly that between any 2 given years, we could usually dismiss it as imperceptible and say they stayed the same, but it's there, and since 2008 it may have accelerated.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/18/2010 7:58:07 AM | message detail
At the very least, Mario is stronger than Sephiroth now. Yay. Should've set up that match.
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 7:58:30 AM | message detail
Mario can't beat Sephiroth. Sephiroth is Kryptonite for him.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/18/2010 7:58:43 AM | message detail
Mario? Beat Sephiroth? Not a chance. Sephiroth is like Mario's worst nightmare, contest-wise.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/18/2010 7:59:03 AM | message detail
Samus got 53% on Snake Pre-Brawl and Pre-MGS4. I consider them to pretty much be equals.

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vcharon | Posted 3/18/2010 8:01:01 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #306
Probably. But no matter how strong you are, you need new games. Not spinoffs, not cameos. Games. At this point Snake's next boost would probably be Smash 4, and that's years away.

Look at Chrono Trigger and FF7. They've lost a step, a huge one in CT's case.


Yeah, that was meant for LMS. Metroid can technically go on forever because it's not even close to being story driven.

I put Snake on the bottom rung of gaining any more strength because without any new games (and he's the only one of the NN that's pretty much confirmed to not get any), he must rely on Smash Bros. He's not exactly a "lock" for the next game either since this time was a cameo appearance and he's not really a Nintendo character. I wouldn't be shocked if he wasn't in Smash 4 at all.

The FF7 crew still have the FF7 Compilation to help them. There's obviously always the chance we see a remake as well, or a sequel. Crono can hold on to those dim hopes Square revives the Chrono series as well. Outside of Smash, Snake will need remakes of his old Metal Gear games (or upgraded ports) to have any chance of getting stronger than 2008.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/18/2010 8:02:25 AM | message detail
Trends-wise: There's only 2 ways Snake can win this match.

1. He leads wire to wire.
2. He makes a comeback in the final hour like CT and MGS are known to do.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/18/2010 8:06:27 AM | message detail
N9 being broken, Ryu finally lost his 40% streak, character from other series breaking 60% on FF7 character, etc.

Clinkeroth being untouchable and unbeatable in 1vs1 since 2003 is another traditional thing that might be broken today, sad but true.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/18/2010 8:09:09 AM | message detail
Heh, Ryu did better than Samus in Asia on Cloud.

There's actually something I've been pondering in general about the VG world. What exactly will happen to older games with huge fanbases (see FFVII)? It's obvious that the technology of today can produce effects lightyears ahead of what was possible even in the late nineties, and presumably it will only become easier in future generations to reach them. Does that mean, then, that we can expect lots of remakes of early 3D (or, possibly, earlier) games that sold well in their day in the next 20-30 years? Presumably they would be a near surefire bet to sell well, both amongst the nostalgic older crowd and those who'd never gone back to them.

But then again, and this is a much more GameFAQs specific question, why is it taking so long for games released not just ~12 years old as with OoT and FFVII, but over 15 years old in the case of CT and LTTP (I'll ignore the 2D Marios since they're played by near-everyone on this site anyway) to properly decline in popularity? It can't be purely franchise voting, since, for example, Wind Waker and <insert FF here> don't have close to the popularity of OoT/FFVII. Do games today just not leave the same connection with the player as they used to? Are gamers today just more critical of what they play? Are games today just not getting enough of a playership to acquire the mass popularity of those gone before? Or are games just worse? It puzzles me. :D

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Master Moltar | Posted 3/18/2010 8:09:13 AM | message detail
At least North America knows what's up. If only it were Sephiroth....

Rest for now, my Queen. You've earned it.

Today, North America.

Next Contest, the world!
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/18/2010 8:11:43 AM | message detail
Assuming Cloud doesn't shrug off the anti-votes or get a boost from a release, I'd expect Samus > Cloud next year, s'long as Other M isn't a flop. His natural decline will have got worse by next contest too, so Samus won't need to boost too much.

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HaRRicH | Posted 3/18/2010 8:12:04 AM | message detail
I think the console-race breaking into three systems and there being two handheld-systems instead of one probably affects just how much a game can mean around here anymore. It's great for gaming in general, but Mario now isn't the same as Mario in the N64-era...and that one wasn't the same as Mario in the NES-era.
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LOLContests | Posted 3/18/2010 8:15:53 AM | message detail
Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Samus, Snake, Mega Man, and Tifa are now the only characters to make the Sweet Sixteen in every contest they've been in, not counting 4 ways. Charizard as well, although unlike the others he has only been in one contest so far.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/18/2010 8:17:02 AM | message detail
This match is suggesting that Samus would be on Sephiroth's level at the very least, and I don't believe that she is indirectly stronger than Mario at all. Then again, I know that Samus draws most of her power from a source which I consider to be overrated on this site (though somewhat underrated most everywhere else), while Mario has to take a considerable amount of strength from older games.

So yeah, Mario > Sephiroth, better set that up next contest.
red sox 777 | Posted 3/18/2010 8:17:15 AM | message detail
It's a combination of a lot of things you said, I think. But also, remember that the majority (a big majority the last time the poll was held) started gaming on the SNES/Genesis or earlier. On the other hand, the percentage of voters who started on the PS2/Xbox/GC or later is still very very small. The N64/PS1 generation has now become the "power" generation on Gamefaqs, with regards to contests, since it can put up huge margins for its games against older games, whereas older generations have also played N64/PS1 games and will vote for them too.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/18/2010 8:18:46 AM | message detail
Next contest retire Link and set up Samus/Snake and Mario/Sephiroth.

And maybe Charizard/one of the FF7 near-elites.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/18/2010 8:40:22 AM | message detail
Is this the first match where the winner of the USA doesn't win the poll?
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Janus5000 | Posted 3/18/2010 8:44:02 AM | message detail
Auron took the US against Squall.

Good showing by Samus. This ended up closer than Seph/Missingno.
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Draco1214 | Posted 3/18/2010 8:45:17 AM | message detail
I think Auron beat Squall in the US.
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vcharon | Posted 3/18/2010 8:48:26 AM | message detail
I'm going to go ahead and leave a healthy prediction for Snake before I head off. 53% sounds good.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/18/2010 8:48:46 AM | message detail
SWEET SIXTEEN GOOGLEFIGHT

Name changes - these are so more accurate results are found.

Link becomes "Link Zelda"
Luigi becomes "Luigi Super Mario"
Sonic becomes "Sonic the Hedgehog"
Kirby becomes "Kirby Nintendo"
Mario becomes "Super Mario"
Mega Man is unchanged
Bowser becomes "Bowser Mario"
Charizard is unchanged
Samus is unchanged
Zelda becomes "Legend of Zelda"
Cloud becomes "Cloud Strife"
Ryu becomes "Ryu Street Fighter"
Solid Snake is unchanged
Squall becomes "Squall Final Fantasy"
Sephiroth is unchanged
Tifa Lockheart is unchanged

LET'S DO THIS

Luigi defeats Link (LOL)
Sonic defeats Kirby
Mario defeats Mega Man (really close though)
Bowser defeats Charizard
Zelda defeats Samus (huge blowout)
Ryu defeats Cloud (HAHAHA YES)
Snake defeats Squall (FF just can't catch a break)
Sephiroth defeats Tifa Lockheart

Sonic defeats Luigi
Mario defeats Bowser
Ryu defeats Zelda
Snake defeats Sephiroth (And with that, every Square character is gone)

Mario SLAUGHTERS Sonic
Ryu SLAUGHTERS Snake (!!!)

Mario easily defeats Ryu for the championship!

Mario - 17700000
Ryu - 8690000
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creativename | Posted 3/18/2010 8:50:58 AM | message detail
So Cloud won't break 53%, and considering Cloud should be 3+ points ahead of Sephiroth and Snake~=Samus, Sephiroth is already looking in trouble even without any bandwagoning whatsoever. And Missingno and Tifa are looking legit.

I'd still favor Sephiroth. However...considering the fact that if this match is in any way close at the end, Snake should have no problems at all getting 500+ votes if he needs it. And that's a lot in a 12 hour match. It's actually tough not to favor Snake here.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Main Event of this contest! :)
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abdou | Posted 3/18/2010 8:53:38 AM | message detail
yeah snake got this one. he will take the lead and never look back.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/18/2010 8:53:58 AM | message detail
I feel sick
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creativename | Posted 3/18/2010 8:54:24 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #1552
Mario? Beat Sephiroth? Not a chance. Sephiroth is like Mario's worst nightmare, contest-wise.


Why? Mario should have an even easier time rallying against Sephiroth than Snake. And by next contest Sephiroth will have dropped off another marginal amount most likely. Depending on what happens today Mario could be the favorite.

Also if Snake rallies to beat Sephiroth, man, that's going to be just like the Battle Royal all over again.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 3/18/2010 8:55:10 AM | message detail
Yay my most anticipated match of the entire Contest is about to start!

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245/288 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VIII
NP: Cloud Strife > Samus Aran | Solid Snake > Sephiroth
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/18/2010 8:55:23 AM | message detail
I have a strange feeling all this hype is gonna go to waste, and Sephiroth is gonna Supernova Snake into oblivion.

I sure hope that DOESN'T happen though, Snake's got ammo. *taps headband* Infinite ammo, in fact.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/18/2010 8:56:31 AM | message detail
I think that if Snake beats Sephiroth, it's because he's actually a fair amount stronger than Mario. Same with Samus, if she beat Sephiroth.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/18/2010 8:57:43 AM | message detail
I take the points about the console race splitting in so many directions and that most began in the N64/PS1 era or earlier.

What's that you're saying Snake?

I've got to go and swat a noisy fly.

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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/18/2010 8:58:00 AM | message detail
All righty then, here it comes.

Solid Snake... don't let us down. At least give him a good fight if nothing else - we could use one last close match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 8:58:29 AM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #335
I have a strange feeling all this hype is gonna go to waste, and Sephiroth is gonna Supernova Snake into oblivion.

I sure hope that DOESN'T happen though, Snake's got ammo. *taps headband* Infinite ammo, in fact.


Yeah, I'm getting a Mario/Seph 2005 and a Samus/Snake 2006 feeling (no coincidence that a lot of us favored Snake both times after a bad performance against Tifa by the other!).
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ffmasterjose | Posted 3/18/2010 8:58:36 AM | message detail
Supernova is one of the many reasons why Sephiroth's soft as a Care Bear. It can't even KO you. Come on now.

Go Snake!

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NP: Cloud Strife > Samus Aran | Solid Snake > Sephiroth
creativename | Posted 3/18/2010 8:58:41 AM | message detail
Samus ain't stronger than Mario, and I don't think Snake is either. And against Sephiroth, if anyone needed a boost to win, Mario would be the one to get it. Seph's main advantage there might be 24 hour matches.
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ToadYoshi | Posted 3/18/2010 8:59:31 AM | message detail
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XIII_rocks | Posted 3/18/2010 8:59:47 AM | message detail
Come on Snake! 30 seconds (or something)!
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Master Moltar | Posted 3/18/2010 9:00:12 AM | message detail
Solid Snake 100%

7
Sephiroth 0%

0
TOTAL VOTES 7

the dreamenddischarger
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/18/2010 9:00:16 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Solid Snake 100%

6
Sephiroth 0%

0
TOTAL VOTES 6

Oh Snake
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XIII_rocks | Posted 3/18/2010 9:00:18 AM | message detail
Solid Snake 100%

13
Sephiroth 0%

0
TOTAL VOTES 13

HAW HAW
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dragon22391 | Posted 3/18/2010 9:00:19 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Solid Snake 94.74%

18
Sephiroth 5.26%

1
TOTAL VOTES 19
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/18/2010 9:00:28 AM | message detail
Solid Snake 69.23%

45
Sephiroth 30.77%

20
TOTAL VOTES 65

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/18/2010 9:00:30 AM | message detail
End the match.
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Fr0zoN | Posted 3/18/2010 9:00:32 AM | message detail
16

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