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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 884

creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:56:14 PM | message detail
Actually perhaps I'm underestimating Cloud, and Samus' board vote. Maybe raise all those numbers by a percent?
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:57:27 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #1960
Link - 50.00%
Everyone Else - LOL


I think red sox would be quite alright with this.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:58:20 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #401
Actually perhaps I'm underestimating Cloud, and Samus' board vote. Maybe raise all those numbers by a percent?


When Snake beat Cloud the first time in 2008, he had 56.17% at the freeze. Of course, Snake's night vote is better than Samus, but at the same time, Samus only has to hold on for 12 hours as opposed to 24.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 8:00:20 PM | message detail
And by contrast, Kirby had 54.11%.

By noon, Snake had 50.65% on Cloud, and Cloud had 56.42% on Kirby.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 8:08:34 PM | message detail
Cloud is going to win. Easily.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 8:11:30 PM | message detail
Samus could have 70% at the freeze and she is still going to lose.

Cloud is going to look at Link's performance be like "oh yeah? I'll see you a Sonic and raise you a SMAUS!"
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/17/2010 8:11:54 PM | message detail
Match CXXIII: (1) Samus Aran vs. (1) Cloud Strife

Last Round

Samus Aran – 63.85%
Zelda – 36.15%

Cloud Strife – 65.98%
Ryu – 34.02%

Analysis

The site has changed, there’s no doubt in that. Characters change strength throughout time; some become weaker while others become stronger. This match will prove that. Cloud probably won’t lose this match, but if one thing will be proven it’s that he is no longer a dominant force in this contest. Long gone is the era of dominance over the other noble nine characters, today he will be exposed that he is fallible and that unless something is done he may never be able to recover.

Anyways as much as the board wants to see the upset happen I don’t see Cloud losing in this match. He was able to defeat a character that is stronger or equal to the one Samus went against by more. The best that Samus fans could hope for is for Samus to take advantage of the anti-Cloud power hour and build up a large enough lead to give her supporters hope that she could win and will thus rally for her. The Final Fantasy Total Domination Hour along with Samus flopping hard in that hour could see Cloud pulling a doubling in some updates if it is left unchecked.

Like Missingno did to Sephiroth I see Samus building a lead before Cloud destroys her with the night vote. This match will probably give away the winner of Sephiroth/Solid Snake unless Cloud only wins by a relatively small amount. This contest has been a crazy ride and the end is far from boring as some people were predicting.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Cloud Strife > Samus Aran

charmander6000’s Prediction: Cloud wins, 54.26% - 45.74%

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Character Battle VIII - 213/256 - Today's Winners: Link and Mario
EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 8:13:44 PM | message detail
It's like when Cloud heard all you guys talking about how bad he had looked all contest, and how he would really need to perform against Ryu or Samus would be the favorite. He came out and put up a near doubling on the strongest Ryu we've ever seen. Cloud would have surely brought Ryu down even further if it was a 24 hour match -- although lord knows how much further.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/17/2010 8:21:00 PM | message detail
But Ryu is Mr. Consistent
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 8:27:53 PM | message detail
<_< Cloud dropped Ryu a lot in their match I thought.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 8:28:14 PM | message detail
Not really after the first hour was over.
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Master Moltar | Posted 3/17/2010 8:43:48 PM | message detail
Quarterfinals: Round 5 - Match 123 – (1) Samus Aran vs. (1) Cloud Strife

Moltar’s Analysis

Samus
Round 1 - 78.69% vs. Prince
Round 2 - 67.52% vs. Jill
Round 3 - 67.31% vs. Sub-Zero
Round 4 - 63.85% vs. Zelda

The Queen impresses once again!

Cloud
Round 1 - 71.72% vs. Ridley
Round 2 - 71.99% vs. Chris
Round 3 - 69.93% vs. Falcon
Round 4 - 65.98% vs. Ryu

Ryu’s fire gets extinguished.

Man, if only this was Samus vs. Seph. Like I’ve said 100 times before, I took that back in 2005 even though Mario screwed it up, and I would’ve taken it this year too. Neither Cloud nor Seph have looked good, while Samus has been putting up impressive performances non-stop.

That said, I’d be surprised if Samus won here. I’d love it if it happened, but I’m not counting on it. It’s true that Cloud hasn’t looked AS dominant, but he still looks extremely strong and is still a few steps ahead of Samus. I’m just hoping she manages to keep it close.

Moltar’s Bracket: Cloud > Samus

Moltar’s Prediction: Cloud: 55% - Samus: 45%



Lopen’s Analysis

I was feelin bad for Cloud's chances here... in round 1.

Since then, Cloud's made a spectacular recovery. That being said, Samus looked good too, but I figure if nothing else the fact that it's a night match lets Cloud stomp the yard here. Also I have a tougher time believing Samus's wins what with the SFF and all, even though I don't trust Samus to SFF things, it's still... possible.

Lopen's prediction:
Cloud with 53.39%



Transience’s Analysis

Let's recap:

Round 1: Cloud gets 72% against Ridley, Samus gets 79% on Prince of Persia. Advantage: Samus
Round 2: Cloud gets 72% on Chris Redfield, Samus gets 68% on Jill Valentine. Advantage: about equal depending on what you think of Chris Redfield, but probably a slight edge to Samus
Round 3: Cloud gets 70% on Captain Falcon, Samus gets 67% on Sub-Zero. Advantage: Samus
Round 4: Cloud gets 66% on Ryu, Samus gets 64% on Zelda. Zelda would probably beat Ryu, but Zelda had a down year and it's a Nintendo-Nintendo match, so let's call this one a push.

Going purely by numbers, you'd expect a great match here, and maybe even an upset. I don't trust that at all though. I think Cloud has trouble with weak characters because he gets anti-voted so badly now. He's kind of like Master Chief. He can beat elite competition fairly well, but give him a well-known minor character like Falcon or Ridley and he'll look downright bad. Meanwhile, Samus is the absolute best at beating mid-tier opponents due to the fact that she's one of the least-heralded strong characters we have. It's very difficult to hate Samus. She's always been great at killing people because of this. Link is overrated because he's in Zelda and Zelda is massive, but Samus -- someone with arguably the same kind of character and appeal as Link -- doesn't get the same treatment because Metroid is not a huge series.

I think Samus starts out making Cloud look awful here, really awful. Similar to Cloud/Kirby though, Cloud should take the lead after an hour and then bury Samus with his excellent night vote. If this were a day match we might have something, but as it is, Samus got the wrong end of the stick here. She sucks in Europe while FF7 is great there. Samus can probably make it closer than her 2004 match (and she did great in that match, so good that everyone took her over Mario in 2005), but not good enough to outright win. That'll be up to the winner of Snake/Sephiroth.

oh god did I say Snake/Sephiroth did you guys know that match is tomorrow oh god

transience's prediction: Cloud with 56.03%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Cloud Strife with 53.19%

Go Samus!
Master Moltar | Posted 3/17/2010 8:43:58 PM | message detail
Kleenex’s Analysis

I might entertain this one in a day match. Maybe. But in a night match? No chance. Especially after the way Cloud put down Ryu last round. The real test here is to see if Cloud will be able to weather a far more dangerous potential oppenent - a bandwagoned Snake. If Snake - ahem - sneaks - ahem - past Sephiroth tomorrow, we could have a 2008 repeat on our hands.

But let's say Cloud rocks Samus's face, 2004 style, just for argument's sake.

Bracket: Cloud
Favorites: Cloud
Prediction: Cloud with 58.64%



Red Sox’s Analysis

I really enjoy these kinds of matches between high level Noble Niners. We have Cloud, the second strongest character and the leader of Team Square, against Samus, probably the #4 or #5 character by indirect strength, and #2 Nintendo character, again by indirect strength. Cloud is the favorite, but people have been hyping the Samus upset for a while. Can she do it?

I seriously doubt it. Samus has looked great this contest, and she is very strong, but she is not on Cloud's level. Cloud has looked like he's fallen off somewhat this year, but that just means his margin of victory will be smaller tonight than it was before. In 2004 and 2007, Cloud scored 59% on Samus, albeit with Megaman running interference in the 2007 match. Samus probably would have done a bit better otherwise, say, 43%, and she'll do even better than that tonight. The night match does not really help either character, but the 12-hour format again helps Samus.

The first hour could be very interesting, and Samus could lead for some time. But eventually Cloud will take the lead, probably within the first hour, and then he will run with it. It won't be close in the end.

Prediction: Cloud Strife with 54.50%
Upset Potential: 5%
Upper Bound: Cloud with 59%
Lower Bound: Cloud with 50%



Guest’s Analysis - Chaotic Mind

There was some ridiculous hype train for Samus > Cloud earlier in the contest, but i think it's dead now after Cloud stomped Ryu with nearly 66%. To compare, Samus got ~58% on Ryu, though that was back in 2002. I'm not sure that number would have changed much though. I don't think Ryu's really declined much, if any, since 2002. I also don't think Samus has boosted much, if any, since then. I'd guess she breaks 60% on Ryu at most nowadays. I don't know the exact formula for extrapolating through that like other stats guys, but based on that guess and the fact that Cloud has shown a tendency to finish just under the whole % mark in his past couple matches, i'm going with...

PredictionCloud Strife - 56.99%



Crew Consensus: Cloud wins (unfortunately)
red sox 777 | Posted 3/17/2010 8:51:34 PM | message detail
I would set 58% as the even chances point at the freeze, and 54% at the end of the Power Hour. 4% from the freeze to 1 AM, 4% more from 1 AM to the end, is my general guideline for Cloud and Sephiroth trends against Nintendo.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 8:55:49 PM | message detail
Looks like some people still have the major misconception that a night match favors Cloud.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/17/2010 8:57:36 PM | message detail
Looks like a great match to have a crew curse.
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Character Battle VIII - 213/256 - Today's Winners: Link and Mario
red sox 777 | Posted 3/17/2010 8:58:07 PM | message detail
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 3/17/2010 8:58:24 PM | message detail
Its because europes vote is more noticable at this timeframe, and clearly Europe favours FF7 over Metroid by a longshot.
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ToadYoshi | Posted 3/17/2010 8:58:44 PM | message detail
Anti-ClinkerothFAQS will be in full effect for the first minute or so of the poll. Look for Snake to reach the doubling. Then, sadly, I highly doubt Snake can hold the lead through the match.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 8:59:40 PM | message detail
Can't believe I'm rooting for Cloud to beat Samus freakin' Aran, but here we are.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2010 8:59:58 PM | message detail
Come on, Snake > Cloud for this half of the contest!
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ToadYoshi | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:08 PM | message detail
That is, of course, my preemptive analysis of the next match because I forgot what match is next. Replace Snake with Samus and Sephiroth with Cloud.
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Master Moltar | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:17 PM | message detail
Samus Aran 100%

6
Cloud Strife 0%

0
TOTAL VOTES 6

THE QUEEN
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Moltar Status: Prediction: Cloud > Samus (242/288)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:17 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Samus Aran 62.5%

25
Cloud Strife 37.5%

15
TOTAL VOTES 40

Go Cloud go!
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Janus5000 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:22 PM | message detail
Samus Aran 78.95%

15
Cloud Strife 21.05%

4
TOTAL VOTES 19

THE QUEEN
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:26 PM | message detail
Samus Aran 68% 34
Cloud Strife 32% 16
TOTAL VOTES 50

lol FFVII board vote.
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Character Battle VIII - 245/288 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Sephiroth
GrapefruitKing | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:30 PM | message detail
Samus went from 67 to 57 when I refreshed
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Today's prediction: Cloud - 58.04% Status:
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:34 PM | message detail
ha, 9-0 Samus when I voted
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paulg235 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:36 PM | message detail
Samus Aran 58.55%

137
Cloud Strife 41.45%

97
TOTAL VOTES 234
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:36 PM | message detail
This could get ugly.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:40 PM | message detail
Hm.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:49 PM | message detail
Hmmm...Likin' Cloud already.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:52 PM | message detail
Samus Aran 58.19% 103
Cloud Strife 41.81% 74
TOTAL VOTES 177

So far within expected range, Cloud.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
nintendogirl1 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:00:59 PM | message detail
WHAT THE GODDAMN HELL


RARGGH!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 9:01:14 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #430
This could get ugly.


Yep, Cloud is already rolling back.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/17/2010 9:01:18 PM | message detail
Well, that's a shame.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:01:23 PM | message detail
Looks like no upset here.
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Character Battle VIII - 245/288 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Sephiroth
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:01:27 PM | message detail
Only 50 votes? I am disappoint.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 3/17/2010 9:01:44 PM | message detail
heh, Samus might not even lead for more than 1 or 2 updates
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/17/2010 9:01:52 PM | message detail
This is just getting ugly.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/17/2010 9:01:55 PM | message detail
Another Cloud Strife massacre. Can anyone stop this beast of destruction?
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 9:02:03 PM | message detail
I'll give it a few updates before I can safely vote for the queen of gaming.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:02:12 PM | message detail
Okay, back to normal.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:02:16 PM | message detail
50 vote lead, and about 54%. Probably will be down below 53% by the freeze.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 9:02:19 PM | message detail
48.45% for Mario, by the way.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/17/2010 9:02:26 PM | message detail
Samus on an upswing, huh.

Alright, then!
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 9:02:35 PM | message detail
Cloud is all like "**** this ****". The only reason that Samus was leading was because Cloud was all like "...the match started?"
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:02:52 PM | message detail
But even if she holds 54%, Cloud's still looking good to finish around 54-55% himself.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 9:02:56 PM | message detail
man who votes for CLOD anyway am i right

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charmander6000 | Posted 3/17/2010 9:03:09 PM | message detail
At least she's doing better than what she did in 2004.
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Character Battle VIII - 245/288 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Sephiroth