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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 884
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/17/2010 7:13:53 PM | message detail |
I still don't see how this is anti-voting. People voting in the poll don't like one character, therefore they vote for the other. They don't want one character to win, so they vote for the other. That's how the contest works in all cases. You could say that Falcon didn't win because he was anti-voted if you are using it in that sense. Nobody gets 'anti-voted'...it's a popularity contest. This whole term being thrown around is just false. That is the characters intrinsic strength at all times. If they have a bad time period then it's just an unfavorable time period. Case closed. That's bullcrap. For one: Pikachu vs. PaRappa the Rapper in 2002. No way in hell PaRappa gets close to Pika unless Pika was anti-voted. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:14:17 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #1706 Actually let me work this out right now. Assuming Zard finishes with 46.25% here, Bowser would work out to 41.87% on Mario, and 51% on that would work Zard out to 42.73%. Which would then re-work Bowser to 38.69% on Mario. Basically the same as the 43% for Zard Leon just posted. Though this seems a bit high to me, perhaps 42% would be better, but we're basically just stabbing at crap in the dark anyway so what does it matter. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/17/2010 7:14:20 PM | message detail |
You could probably stand to bring down Kratos and friends and bring up Hayabusa and friends, but I have no idea by how much. --- Mustache...and Green... |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 7:15:25 PM | message detail |
Bowser
at 38.69% on Mario seems a bit low, if anything. Luigi and Yoshi point
to the Mario characters right under Mario hulking up a lot this year,
and there's only so low I would put Sora against Mario. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 7:16:14 PM | message detail |
And drop a Duke a some due to the advantages he had in that ma- Screw it, it is impossible to adjust these stats. All hail Duke Nukem>Zack Fair --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:17:12 PM | message detail |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #350 I didn't think about that, actually. Let's see. Second Quarter Stats Mario – 50.00% Mega Man – 46.00% Charizard – 43.00% Bowser Koopa - 41.93% Kratos – 39.14% Sora - 37.99% Big Boss – 36.84% Zack Fair – 35.27% Cid Highwind – 34.00% L-Block – 33.85% Kefka Palazzo - 32.17% Frog - 30.84% Duke Nukem – 30.75% Miles “Tails” Prower – 30.55% Yuna – 29.20% Midna - 27.63% Isaac – 26.75% Ike – 25.90% Ryu Hayabusa – 25.62% Arthas Menethil - 25.34% Zidane Tribal – 25.10% Laharl - 24.50% HK-47 – 24.39% Master Chief – 24.31% Neku Sakuraba – 21.40% Crash Bandicoot – 19.58% Prinny – 19.43% Spy – 19.34% Falco Lombardi – 18.96% Claptrap – 17.89% Miles Edgeworth – 17.52% Professor Layton – 16.70% Better? --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/17/2010 7:17:48 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 3/17/2010 10:16:14 PM | #355 HEIL --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:17:50 PM | message detail |
From: Fayt_Esteed | #1751 Well actually that's a very bad example, considering how horribly weak Pikachu was back then it's not hard for another real weak character to get close to him at all. Pikachu used to be complete fodder. From: KamikazePotato | #1754 It's first half Sora, who's a different, more pathetic beast entirely. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 7:18:13 PM | message detail |
Bump up Sora's guys. He looks a couple % worse due to having a night match against Bowser. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/17/2010 7:18:30 PM | message detail |
Laharl - 24.50% Master Chief – 24.31% That's all I really wanted to see. Thanks. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png I'm sorry, but calling Charizard A Pokemon is calling The Fonz a Fonz. - Haguile |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/17/2010 7:18:44 PM | message detail |
That looks much nicer. Duke/Yuna is still 'wat', but it warms my heart, so I'm not complaining! --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 7:19:59 PM | message detail |
Duke
is one of those instances where he looks waaay better in the stats then
he actually is. Altair managed to cut off 1800 votes on him in 2k7
during the ASV, and he had that ridiculous flag picture. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/17/2010 7:20:17 PM | message detail |
Well
actually that's a very bad example, considering how horribly weak
Pikachu was back then it's not hard for another real weak character to
get close to him at all. Pikachu used to be complete fodder. Whoops. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:21:27 PM | message detail |
The Duke finishes in the stats wherever he wants to. Boy. Man, I miss that Milk Nukem alt. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:21:49 PM | message detail |
From: RPGuy96 | #1753 Well you can't adjust everything right :) Then it becomes more like a painting or sculpture, where you're recalculating everything purely to fit preconceived notions. I agree Hayabusa and friends are underrated (not so sure about Kratos overrated, I don't see why he'd overperform), but, there's nothing to base that adjustment off of, nor anything concrete to assume he underperformed other than pic factor. At least with the whole Bowser/Kratos crew we have some pretty good data that supports Zard hulking up. And the Mario/Mega Man SFF thing is pretty logical. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 7:22:54 PM | message detail |
(not so sure about Kratos overrated, I don't see why he'd overperform) http://gaygamer.net/images/Kratos%20Slurpee.jpg --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/17/2010 7:24:02 PM | message detail |
Slurpee Factor second best after Hockey Factor --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:24:12 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #1759 Trying to actually make day/night match adjustments in all these various matches would land you in a heap of trouble I think. Sora's would be amongst the most obvious and simple I agree, but it opens up a can of worms. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:24:37 PM | message detail |
Yeah, trying to make arbitrary adjustments based on night/day would be more trouble than it's worth. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:25:18 PM | message detail |
Basically,
what you're going to have to do is take the raw stats and just make
your own interpretations about what's too high, what's too low, etc.
That's all there is to it. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/17/2010 7:28:50 PM | message detail |
Tails
still looks really good at 30% on Mario. Now we just have to figure out
how to adjust Sonic's bracket, because we're gonna end up with some
crazy things there. But mostly I'm just happy with Tails back to being
a solid mid-carder. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/17/2010 7:28:58 PM | message detail |
Oh,
I agree wholeheartedly - that's why I said I have no idea by how much.
For Kratos and friends (wait, Kratos has friends!?) I was working on
the assumption that Charizard got stronger from HG/SS on top of
bandwagoning, so Kratos faced a weaker Charizard. ANYWAY I am very much looking forward to the five minute Samus stats tonight. Over/under on Samus winning would probably be 60% at the freeze and at least 54% (800-1000 votes) at the end of the Power Hour, right? --- Mustache...and Green... |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:30:46 PM | message detail |
If Samus is ahead by 1000 at the end of the first hour...I'd still give Cloud a chance due to Europe, but I'd favor Samus. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/17/2010 7:31:59 PM | message detail |
I'm
so mad that I'm gonna have to miss the Power Hour tonight. Stupid
basketball league I'm in. But going back and looking at the board's
over-reactions will be glorious. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/17/2010 7:33:06 PM | message detail |
From: TheOneAboveAll | Posted: 3/17/2010 10:28:50 PM | #371 Back? He never was. He was, at best, a low midcarder. >_> --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:33:50 PM | message detail |
Yeah, 30% on Mario isn't solid midcard. That's more like low midcard. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/17/2010 7:33:52 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #370 Isn't that what everyone is arguing about right now in terms of how to adjust this mess? No matter what you do, there's too much SFF, bandwagoning, and day/night disparity here to make these stats useful. Any adjusted x-stats will be just as unreliable as the cluser**** we currently have. --- Not Wylvane |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/17/2010 7:33:56 PM | message detail |
Samus is never going to lead, guys. --- "Why did you come with me?" "Only because I wanted to go with you." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:35:05 PM | message detail |
Isn't that what everyone is arguing about right now in terms of how to adjust this mess? Yeah, but I was just messing around with stuff to see what it looks like. I'm not planning on making any "adjusted" stats this year. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 3/17/2010 7:35:36 PM | message detail |
So, did Charizard impress or did he fall short of expectations? --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 7:36:53 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #347 Oh you don't have to apologize, rofl. After the contest we'll have raw stats plus weird adjustments and call it a day like always. --- "Final Fantasy XI is a bad game that no one should care about for any reason." -FFDragon |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/17/2010 7:37:23 PM | message detail |
From: PegasusLover123 | #380 46% on the fourth strongest character on the site? Major disappointment! --- Not Wylvane |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/17/2010 7:37:25 PM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 3/17/2010 10:33:56 PM | #378 I'd bet money on Samus leading for 5 minutes, maybe even 15. Cloud will win, but his power hour is just sorry. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/17/2010 7:39:44 PM | message detail |
I'd bet money(not a lot of it mind you) on Samus trailing by the freeze. --- "Why did you come with me?" "Only because I wanted to go with you." |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/17/2010 7:40:15 PM | message detail |
Anyone
who think Samus isn't going to jump out to a goofy 13-3 lead or
something equally goofy like she's done on everyone so far is
delusional. Sorry ExTha, she's facing the other Clinkeroth FFVII guy,
you don't have an excuse this time! --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png I'm sorry, but calling Charizard A Pokemon is calling The Fonz a Fonz. - Haguile |
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/17/2010 7:41:36 PM | message detail |
30% on Mario will end up being around 25% on Link at worst, right? I thought 25% was above a low midcard. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:43:33 PM | message detail |
From: TheOneAboveAll | #386 Assuming Mario gets 40% on Link (which is probably his best case scenario), that would put Tails at 24.44%. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:46:53 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #1856 30% on Mario is fairly solid midcard I think, actually. I think Kelshen was saying Tails is higher than ever before. From: ExThaNemesis | #1858 She will. But if she's actually up with 54% an hour in, it's tough for me to imagine her losing. From: LeonhartFour | #1859 Aw! Too bad, I was going to put yours up on my site. You did a great job with 4ways somehow, I was confident you'd be up to the task in giving us the best stats of anyone :) --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:48:33 PM | message detail |
You did a great job with 4ways somehow, I was confident you'd be up to the task in giving us the best stats of anyone :) Well, if you really want them for "official" purposes, I guess I could try my hand at it. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/17/2010 7:49:46 PM | message detail |
What's the cutoff for a low mid-carder? And either way, that's about a 4% gain for Tails since we last saw him 1v1. (And it's even more before you adjusted the standings for SFF and hype and other stuff.) |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:50:04 PM | message detail |
I
really see this being like Sephiroth/Missingno deja vu. I wouldn't be
too surprised if Cloud only got something horrible like 51.50% by the
finish. Anti-FF7 fever is at record levels, and this is a night match, which favors should favor Samus noticeably. Cloud's daylight vote and dead hour vote should win him the match, but this will be ugly for him for a long time. And the board will probably be quite excited during the early vote as Cloud looks like ass. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:50:27 PM | message detail |
Low midcard to me is like 20-22%-ish on Link. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:51:23 PM | message detail |
So is there ANY way Samus beats Cloud but Sephiroth beats Snake? --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/17/2010 7:51:29 PM | message detail |
So 30% on Mario is decently above low-midcard. I think you just contradicted yourself. |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/17/2010 7:51:59 PM | message detail |
So, what does Samus have to be at the freeze for you guys to give her a 50/50 shot at beating Cloud? Since I'll probably be out for the start of Snake/Seph, same question for those two too. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png I'm sorry, but calling Charizard A Pokemon is calling The Fonz a Fonz. - Haguile |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:52:10 PM | message detail |
From: TheOneAboveAll | #394 Well, I was stating a best-case scenario for Tails. I think he's going to end up a bit overrated in the final stats anyway. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:52:11 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #1909 Well I don't know if anythings "official" with adjusted stats, but I would've liked to have seen them. If you don't want to bother though that's fine of course, they can be some real work. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
tgs2 | Posted 3/17/2010 7:53:34 PM | message detail |
It
might be possible for Link to be too strong this year. He could come
close to doubling Mario then 60-40 Steroid Snake/Cloud (Of course the
latter is unlikely, but fun to think about). What would the stats look
like then? Sorry if this question is stupid or anything. --- You may take Mr. Rogers down, but I will be back and become more powerful than you ever imagine "tgs is taking it alone" |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 7:54:34 PM | message detail |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #1955 I think 53% and under, Cloud's in real good shape. 55% and over, Cloud's in trouble. Under 54% Cloud probably has it but there's doubts. 54%-55%, who knows what happens. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 7:54:36 PM | message detail |
From: tgs2 | #398 If that happens, you might as well do this: Link - 50.00% Everyone Else - LOL --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
