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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 884

UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:14:53 PM | message detail
Dark Link > Sephiroth



~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Vincent, Kirby, Missingno, et al group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters recently.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 12:21:42 PM | message detail
Anti-Sora > Both
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jck4332 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:22:58 PM | message detail
Eh...
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/17/2010 12:23:38 PM | message detail
I will end you.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 12:24:03 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #004
I will end you.


Like Snake's gonna end Sephiroth tomorrow, am I right!
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/17/2010 12:33:34 PM | message detail
Laharl > Master Chief
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:41:31 PM | message detail
The following Pokemon (and 2 trainers) in my opinion would be easily above the fodder line, maybe even way above due to Pokemon or Smash Brothers:

Missingno
Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur
Charmander/Charmeleon/Charizard
Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise
Rattata
Pikachu/Raichu
Jigglypuff
Meowth
Psyduck
Arcanine
Poliwag
Abra/Kadabra
Geodude
Onix/Steelix
Electrode
Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan
Koffing
Starmie
Scyther
Scizor
Gyarados
Ditto
Eevee (and maybe all the evolutions)
Porygon/Porygon2
Snorlax
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Mewtwo
Mew
Chikorita
Typhlosion
Pichu
Togepi
Bellossom
Unown
Wobbuffet
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Tyranitar
Lugia
Ho-oh
Celebi
Mudkip
Zigzagoon
Gardevior
Rayquasa
Latias
Latios
Nincada/Ninjask/Shedinja
Chansey
Goldeen
Skitty
Jirachi
Celebi
Deoxys
Lucario
Dialga
Palkia
Darkrai
Arceus
Red
Blue


And that's just the really obvious stuff. I probably missed a few. There are likely a lot more than could easily break the fodder line, if not better.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:43:39 PM | message detail
And at Mumei's request, my opinion of the low midcarders and up from that list:

Missingno
Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur
Charmander/Charmeleon/Charizard
Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Meowth
Psyduck
Arcanine
Onix
Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan
Starmie
Gyarados
Ditto
Eevee (and maybe all the evolutions)
Snorlax
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Mewtwo
Mew
Typhlosion
Pichu
Togepi
Bellossom
Unown
Wobbuffet
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Tyranitar
Lugia
Ho-oh
Celebi
Mudkip
Gardevior
Rayquasa
Jirachi
Celebi
Deoxys
Lucario
Dialga
Palkia
Darkrai
Arceus
Red
Blue

That's still a huge list. Pokemon is no joke.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/17/2010 12:45:56 PM | message detail
Nominate Bahamut.

If a dragon from Pokemon can do this well, imagine what a dragon from ****ing Final Fantasy can do!
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:47:23 PM | message detail
Unown


woah

no one likes Unown. It's a lame gimmick thing.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/17/2010 12:48:21 PM | message detail
I'd be all for Unown if its name was spelled using Unown.

And if the match pics had the Unown spell out words like "ASS" and "*****" and such.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:49:20 PM | message detail
Maybe, but it was in Melee. That alone gives it the exposure it needs, especially if it gets a good match picture.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/thumb/c/c7/Unown_trophy142.jpg/97px-Unown_trophy142.jpg
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jck4332 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:49:45 PM | message detail
Arceus

Damn contradiction pokemon.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/17/2010 12:58:51 PM | message detail
I think even Spiderman probably gives Superman a run, if not likely outright beats him. He's generally more well-liked and he's been a lot more relevant recently with the Spiderman movies. The Superman movie wasn't nearly as big. Batman pounds both into the dirt
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 12:59:07 PM | message detail
Seriously you guys are completely unreasonable if you think that Batman would be more popular than Superman. Superman is, bar none, the most popular fictional character of all time. Period.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:59:55 PM | message detail
Superman is, bar none, the most popular fictional character of all time.

Mickey Mouse
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 1:00:10 PM | message detail
Batman would crush Superman.

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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 1:00:22 PM | message detail
Superman has nothing to do with the movies. Even though he has the old Christopher Reeves movies to fall back on (as we all know, Nostalgia = instant win on this site), the fact that he's the first, the strongest, and the most popular superhero in the world. Superman is more well known than Mickey Mouse, Mario, or anyone in that respect.

You guys are seriously crazy. Lol.
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cf is best | Posted 3/17/2010 1:00:44 PM | message detail
The Dark Knight alone assures Batman's win over Superman.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 1:00:45 PM | message detail
I guarantee more people in the world know who Superman is than Mickey Mouse.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/17/2010 1:01:18 PM | message detail
Man, we need a Fictional Character Contest so that this isn't all just silly speculation.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/17/2010 1:01:18 PM | message detail
And I guarantee you're wrong.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/17/2010 1:01:30 PM | message detail
Superman is to Mario as Link is to Batman
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 1:02:54 PM | message detail
Man, it doesn't really matter how well known Superman is worldwide. In worldwide popularity, Mario crushes Link.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/17/2010 1:02:57 PM | message detail
For example, take LL's poll. The sample is small but it was originally GameFAQs users and all

Favorite of the big three superheroes?
Batman 63.21%
1316
Spider-Man 27.67%
576
Superman 9.13%
190
TOTAL VOTES 2082
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 1:02:58 PM | message detail
You guys are putting way too much stock in movies.

This site seems pretty reasonable.

http://comicbooks.about.com/od/characters/tp/topsuperhero.htm
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 1:03:40 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #015
Seriously you guys are completely unreasonable if you think that Batman would be more popular than Superman. Superman is, bar none, the most popular fictional character of all time. Period.


God is the most popular fictional character of all time, actually.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 1:04:06 PM | message detail
Spiderman would also beat Batman, for the record.

Also, Jay Solano beat Link in a small sample size poll. @_@
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 1:04:27 PM | message detail
God is the most popular fictional character of all time, actually.

Zing.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/17/2010 1:06:52 PM | message detail
Eh, Jay Solano Vs. Link isn't even comparable.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 1:08:21 PM | message detail
Batman probably has the best shot at taking Link. This site also has a TON of fanatical Star Wars fans, so I think Vader can also do very well for himself.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 1:08:26 PM | message detail
Also if you want to talk about Movies and TV -- Superman has had more TV shows, songs, and movies made about him than any other comic book character.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 1:08:34 PM | message detail
Batman probably has the best shot at taking Link. This site also has a TON of fanatical Star Wars fans, so I think Vader can also do very well for himself.
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 1:09:01 PM | message detail
There's really not even much question that Spider-Man beat Superman, I think. Superman is #3 at best - assuming Wolverine doesn't beat him.

#5 is I guess Iron Man? Though Venom should be strong - unless the third movie ruined him.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 1:09:49 PM | message detail
Critical reception and popularity
The character Superman and his various comic series have received various awards over the years.
Empire magazine named him the greatest comic book character of all time.[166]
The Reign of the Supermen is one of many storylines or works to have received a Comics Buyer's Guide Fan Award, winning the Favorite Comic Book Story category in 1993.[167]
Superman came at number 2 in VH1's Top Pop Culture Icons 2004.[168]
Also in 2004, British cinemagoers voted Superman as the greatest superhero of all time.[169]
Works featuring the character have also garnered six Eisner Awards[170][171] and three Harvey Awards,[172] either for the works themselves or the creators of the works.
The Superman films have received a number of nominations and awards, with Christopher Reeve winning a BAFTA for his performance in Superman.[173]
The Smallville television series has garnered Emmys for crew members and various other awards.[174]
Superman as a character is still seen as being as relevant now as he has been in the seventy years of his existence.[175]
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 1:09:52 PM | message detail
I think Batman would be the odds-on favorite to win a broad spectrum contest. Screw "upsetting" Link. I'd be surprised if Link won that.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 1:10:18 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #032
Also if you want to talk about Movies and TV -- Superman has had more TV shows, songs, and movies made about him than any other comic book character.


Batman has the most popular 90s superhero cartoon show aside from maybe X-Men and has one of the most popular movies of all time (that just released a little while ago). Supes would be damn lucky to hit 30% against the GD Batman.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 1:11:04 PM | message detail
Look at Curt listing tons of irrelevant things. I'm impressed.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/17/2010 1:11:15 PM | message detail
Why do you keep bringing up their 'popularity in the world', do you not realize that's not even all that relevant.
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 1:11:25 PM | message detail
Do we really get into an endless Superman debate? I love the guy but come on, let's not be delusional.

From: PartOfYourWorld | #151
Batman probably has the best shot at taking Link. This site also has a TON of fanatical Star Wars fans, so I think Vader can also do very well for himself.


I think the consensus is that Batman and Vader are the strongest possible characters out there.

BTW, it's good to see that the Revan>HK-47 logic did indeed hold. Who knew Dissidia boosted Terra into Hulk mode. Lightsaber FTW!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 1:11:35 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #034
#5 is I guess Iron Man? Though Venom should be strong - unless the third movie ruined him.


Joker smacks Iron Man easily; I don't think many here would doubt that. Hulk might also take Iron Man, and I'd take Gambit over him as well.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/17/2010 1:12:04 PM | message detail
BTW, Lara Croft is the most recognized video game character over Mario in America.

Lara Croft > Link confirmed.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 1:12:37 PM | message detail
Superman is the Mario of superheroes on this site. Well-known, popular enough to crush most things, but his appeal is mainly old-school. Batman (and probably even 10+ other characters) would annihilate him.
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 1:13:28 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #156
I think Batman would be the odds-on favorite to win a broad spectrum contest. Screw "upsetting" Link. I'd be surprised if Link won that.


I kind of feel the same way.

I think Link based on history would be the favorite and has earned that, but I really think Batman is plain stronger.

Not to mention that if Link is ever going to get seriously anti-voted in a title match, it would be against Batman.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 1:13:37 PM | message detail
Superman would beat anyone. The only icon that beat him in the history of the world was Oprah.

...Oprah.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 1:14:18 PM | message detail
Batman
Spider-Man
Wolverine
The Joker
Gambit
Magneto

I think I'd take all of these guys over Superman, and I'd still take Supes to wipe most traditional video game characters.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/17/2010 1:14:40 PM | message detail
Superman is still as relevant today as he was 50 years ago. If not moreso. Come on guys you can't seriously be THIS blind. The only reason The Dark Knight did so well was because Heath Ledger died -- don't even start this crap.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/17/2010 1:14:58 PM | message detail
BTW, Lara Croft is the most recognized video game character over Mario in America.

Wait, is this STILL true? No way! Lara's totally irrelevant now.
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voltch | Posted 3/17/2010 1:15:06 PM | message detail
superman is the one hero people like to mock the most, though gamefaqs has people who respect him for his canon feats and powers, so i dunno.
Either way one thing is dead certain, the american guys will clean house.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 1:15:11 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #045
Superman would beat anyone. The only icon that beat him in the history of the world was Oprah.

...Oprah.


Really, you're citing VH1's list as if it's relevant on this site?
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