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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 883
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:57:40 AM | message detail |
Uh, you do know Jiggylypuff is one of the best characters in Melee, right? Tiers mean absolute **** all in these contests. FFS guys, if that's the case then Marth must be a ****ing contest god! I'm talking about play-rates here. I've played SSBM since the first day it came out all the way until I sold my GC a couple of years ago. The only time I've ever seen anyone play Jigglypuff is if they wanted to embarrass their opponent because if you lost to Jigglypuff you really sucked! There's a reason she is the only original SSB character to not make it into these contests, and that's because no one gives a **** about her. She's a fan favorite in Japan, but is useless everywhere else. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:58:26 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #336 Of course not, because LOL THE CASUALS KNOW MORE THAN TOURNAMENT PLAYERS. It's like those idiots who pretend they're smart by continuing to deny .999~ = 1. There's something called "intellectual authority". If a doctorate in math writes a book on calculus and gives you an applicable proof, it's a proof. That's the very definition of what "proof" is in math. Smash casuals are in the exact same boat. That style of play is irrelevant in judging how good or bad a character is, and saying Jiggly sucks in all three games is a laughable joke. Citing B moves for this is more than enough proof of that. --- ¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸ "Do you have ANY idea how low my self-esteem is?" -DYL |
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:59:05 AM | message detail |
smash
tournament players make up less than 1% of the vote if that, ulti. The
casuals don't play as her, and thats all that matters. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/166hz0l.gif Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
CP724 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:59:13 AM | message detail |
Don't
think any more FF characters need to be nomiated, not before the
mascots anyway. Bahamut and Chocobo would be good for next year. They'd
at least be decent midcarders I think. --- derp |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:59:21 AM | message detail |
The
only problem is that Soul reflects the casual mentality, and I'd
imagine most voters are casual Smash players. Almost no one I've ever
played with has ever picked Jigglypuff for anything other than the
giggles. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/17/2010 11:59:22 AM | message detail |
original 152 >.> I know it's semantics, but it's the original 151. --- "Why did you come with me?" "Only because I wanted to go with you." |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:59:47 AM | message detail |
Of course not, because LOL THE CASUALS KNOW MORE THAN TOURNAMENT PLAYERS. You get your tournament buddies and vote for her in these contests. See how much your "Smash Bros knowledge" does for these things! --- Good Times, Great Memories |
Achromatic | Posted 3/17/2010 11:59:55 AM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #356 KNOW YOUR MISSINGNO ROOTS --- Why does Final Fantasy 7 win every year? Geesh you'd think people would give Zelda a try. Sir Chris |
pjbasis | Posted 3/17/2010 12:00:38 PM | message detail |
Seifer for villain! Seriously it's my dream to see a VIII-2 starring Seifer. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 12:00:39 PM | message detail |
You'd
think Jigglypuff would have all the tools to be one of the strongest
Pokemon (three Smash games and lots of exposure on the cartoon), but
she was dreadful in her only poll appearance. Getting doubled by Mudkip
who was doubled by Missingno... we can probably find a dozen or more
stronger Pokeys. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:00:43 PM | message detail |
Of course not, because LOL THE CASUALS KNOW MORE THAN TOURNAMENT PLAYERS. It's like those idiots who pretend they're smart by continuing to deny .999~ = 1. There's something called "intellectual authority". If a doctorate in math writes a book on calculus and gives you an applicable proof, it's a proof. That's the very definition of what "proof" is in math. Smash casuals are in the exact same boat. That style of play is irrelevant in judging how good or bad a character is, and saying Jiggly sucks in all three games is a laughable joke. Citing B moves for this is more than enough proof of that. for casual players, from the casual player perspective, Jigglypuff sucks. Real human beings don't use Jigglypuff. Jigglypuff does not stand to gain as much from Smash Bros. as characters that people actually use. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
LOLContests | Posted 3/17/2010 12:00:55 PM | message detail |
If
Ness can get Smash support I don't see why Jiggly wouldn't. I don't see
either of them having particularly drastic play rates, in Melee at least. Augh. Who wants to play as someone without an Up-B jump? --- "I may not know the whole story behind this, but perhaps it's better that way. I'm at peace once more" Knuckles the Echidna Yesmar |
vcharon | Posted 3/17/2010 12:00:55 PM | message detail |
Dark
Link would easily be the strongest option left I think, outside of a
Pokemon if they can keep up this strength next year. Even then, I don't
think the silliness from a few topics ago makes any sense at all.
Squirtle is the only one that's worth trying. --- :> |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/17/2010 12:01:10 PM | message detail |
if that's the case then Marth must be a ****ing contest god! Hey I like this idea, Sephiroth > Link confirmed --- "Why did you come with me?" "Only because I wanted to go with you." |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:01:20 PM | message detail |
The
only problem is that Soul reflects the casual mentality, and I'd
imagine most voters are casual Smash players. Almost no one I've ever
played with has ever picked Jigglypuff for anything other than the
giggles. Exactly. I've done the whole tournament thing in Melee, but to use that as your proof that she would be strong in these contests is completely laughable. Her strength will come completely from the Pokemon games, where she's nothing but a random Normal-type Pokemon. Oh, and she uses and marker to mark on people's faces in the anime. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:01:21 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #349 Completely wrong. She never needs to wavedash in Melee, so even a complete casual can pick her up and learn her. There's no overly fancy abuse of physics, she just WoPs most of the time. And against heavy characters or fast-fallers, you grab, up throw, Uair and Rest. She's tournament viable in two games, and only bad in Brawl. But hey, what do I know. --- "A joke format for a joke contest deserves joke winners." -Master Moltar |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 12:01:49 PM | message detail |
Jigglypuff
would be high fodder. There's really no need to see her in these
contest, ever. She has no bandwagon potential or anything like the
other Pokemon stars. Squirtle/Blastoise are pretty much the only
important Pokemon left. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:02:03 PM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #356 Fine, 151 + Missingno. Not the point. Pokemon RBY is a beast. --- ,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸, "I have no problem swallowing... so yeah." -Menji76 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:02:29 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #367 Are you people even looking at the same contest as me? --- Listening to Albion for game information is not recommended. -SHINE GET 64 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:02:38 PM | message detail |
If
Ness can get Smash support I don't see why Jiggly wouldn't. I don't see
either of them having particularly drastic play rates, in Melee at
least. Ness was a fan favorite in the original SSB. People were pissed because of how nerfed he and Kirby got in Melee because they were probably the two most used characters in the original. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:02:39 PM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #366 not much apparently since she's by far the least played character in it. Back when I played melee, I saw more people pick Pichu over her. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/166hz0l.gif Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
LOLContests | Posted 3/17/2010 12:03:15 PM | message detail |
I don't know anything about tiers, but I never got the impression that casuals hated Jiggly or anything. I mean, Rest > All. And I would be much more interested in seeing Brock and Misty in before Squirtle/Blastoise. --- "I may not know the whole story behind this, but perhaps it's better that way. I'm at peace once more" Knuckles the Echidna Yesmar |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/17/2010 12:03:24 PM | message detail |
LOL @ taking Smash seriously as a fighting game anyway though. --- Thank you for assuming the party escort submission position |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 12:03:42 PM | message detail |
I
wavedash with J-puff like twice a match. As Ulti said, you just need to
understand her air game and be able to Rest the hell out of the
furries. I can Rest-obliterate my brother's Falco off the up or down
throw, and then he complains. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/17/2010 12:03:42 PM | message detail |
Ulti I am heavily up on both the casual AND the tourney Smash scenes. no one uses Jiggles in the casual scene. I remember the first time I busted out the WOP with my friends in Melee. Most glorious case of "Hahaha jigglypuff you have no ch-OH MY GOD HOW WAS I JUST THREE STOCKED" ever. --- "Why did you come with me?" "Only because I wanted to go with you." |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:03:57 PM | message detail |
And I would be much more interested in seeing Brock and Misty in before Squirtle/Blastoise Professor Oak > Borck and Misty --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:04:02 PM | message detail |
No, Jigglypuff was used more then Pichu. People picked J-Puff to humiliate their opponents. Nobody picked Pichu for anything. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
vcharon | Posted 3/17/2010 12:04:27 PM | message detail |
Also, optimal NRT finish would be something like: Dark Link Red XIII Seifer Almasy Squirtle (or if another Pokemon is perceived stronger) I'm undecided for a 5th spot. For instance, I wouldn't have thought Jecht was worth anything pre-contest but it turns out (pleasantly) I was wrong. I could be convinced; I'd have to see a list of rallies that were on at that time. Returners: Lara Croft --- :> |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:05:16 PM | message detail |
Completely
wrong. She never needs to wavedash in Melee, so even a complete casual
can pick her up and learn her. There's no overly fancy abuse of
physics, she just WoPs most of the time. And against heavy characters
or fast-fallers, you grab, up throw, Uair and Rest. She's tournament
viable in two games, and only bad in Brawl. But hey, what do I know. Again you're basing this on people that know what they are doing and actually do their homework. As a casual player playing as Jigglypuff is really hard to do. With that said I fully believe that Jigglypuff would be high fodder at worst. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 213/256 - Today's Winners: Link and Mario |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/17/2010 12:05:31 PM | message detail |
Am I the only one that's completely satisfied with the Pokemon we have in the contest? >.> --- "Why did you come with me?" "Only because I wanted to go with you." |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:06:10 PM | message detail |
Define satisfied. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 12:06:28 PM | message detail |
Man, Dark Link would get anti-voted out the ass. I'd be scared to take him against a Pokemon. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
vcharon | Posted 3/17/2010 12:06:35 PM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #380 If you mean do I personally want anymore, then no I don't. But with their performance this time, it's hard to deny that perhaps there are still more contenders out there. --- :> |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:06:49 PM | message detail |
Am I the only one that's completely satisfied with the Pokemon we have in the contest? >.> I am as well. Like I said, no one else is going to be stronger then Charizard or Pikachu. Squirtle/Blastoise could be up there with Mewtwo but it's doubtful. Everything else will be below that tier. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
vcharon | Posted 3/17/2010 12:07:45 PM | message detail |
The
NRT is about finding worthy characters; it doesn't matter if they'd
just be as strong as Mewtwo. As strong as Mewtwo is better than failing
in the vote-in like Yoshimitsu. --- :> |
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:07:49 PM | message detail |
If Sazh doesn't win the NRT, there is something wrong with this board. Heres my optimal NRT: Sazh Gokule Maxim Etna Morrigan Only Sazh and Etna have any real chance of making the tourney out of those, though. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/166hz0l.gif Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:07:52 PM | message detail |
I
really want to see Goomba in these things. If a joke character from
Pokemon can be that strong, how about the most famous random enemy
ever? --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
LOLContests | Posted 3/17/2010 12:07:59 PM | message detail |
Get
this Dark Link (and possibly Dark Samus) talk out of here. It's bad
enough that they almost made the Villains Contest (although I'm not
sure Dark Samus should be eligible anyway.) --- "I may not know the whole story behind this, but perhaps it's better that way. I'm at peace once more" Knuckles the Echidna Yesmar |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2010 12:08:08 PM | message detail |
There's
a reason she is the only original SSB character to not make it into
these contests, and that's because no one gives a **** about her. Valid point. I'm pretty sure every other original-SSB character made it into a contest by 2005 and without board rallies, not to mention most of the SSBM and SSBB characters who missed the original SSB and have made it in a contest since then. Nana, Master Hand, and Sandbag have made the contest before Jigglypuff. I don't like to use the "They haven't made a contest yet so they can't be strong" argument...but nearly every character but Jigglypuff had made it into the contest when looking at the SSB-series, and this is despite being a Pokemon originally from RBY. Good luck to her if she makes it into a contest, but she won't be very strong and definitely be smashed if stuck in any SFF-match. --- Picking Auron > Squall was dumb, but not as dumb as thinking I could beat Leonhart! Keep on smilin'! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8863/72571365.jpg |
Haguile | Posted 3/17/2010 12:08:09 PM | message detail |
Man, Dark Link would get anti-voted out the ass. I'd be scared to take him against a Pokemon. Yeah. Picking for or against him would be just as scary. Which would make the next contest so much fun! --- B8 Liar Game |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/17/2010 12:08:13 PM | message detail |
Dark
Link would actually be a GREAT contest entry, because there'd
definitely be people taking him to the finals and such. Dark Link vs.
Pikachu in the sprite round WHO YA GOT --- "Why did you come with me?" "Only because I wanted to go with you." |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/17/2010 12:08:21 PM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #378 Right? I think we have enough of these guys now. --- Thank you for assuming the party escort submission position |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:08:53 PM | message detail |
Soul still has the best sig ever. I like cn a lot, but the way he kept denying RBY that contest was something else. --- ------ --------- |
creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 12:09:41 PM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #1858 Nice list - though considering the very real possibility we'd see a Dark Link vs. Link finals, I'm not sure I'd want him in. Back in like 2K3 I really wanted Dark Link in badly, but he might just be Link part II. And we already have Link part I. ...Lara Croft? What? She's pretty unnecessary. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 12:09:46 PM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #385 The NRT always turns into a popularity contest though. But I agree, I think it should be about potentially strong newcomers. Zard has to be the most successful NRT guy, right? --- "There are no fingerprints deep under water, nothing to tie one to a crime And if you seek vengeance, all you need are instruments of pain." -Dethklok |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:09:58 PM | message detail |
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:10:27 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #394 Why? She's stronger then a good amount of the yearly fodder we get. For a 128 character bracket, theres absolutely no reason not to have her. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/166hz0l.gif Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 12:10:47 PM | message detail |
Zard has to be the most successful NRT guy, right? In terms of strength or results? --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:11:00 PM | message detail |
who the hell is Maxim also serious good NRT results Sazh Bahamut Professor Oak or Bulbasaur or Squirtle or something Garland and uh... Dr. Wily? --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/17/2010 12:11:01 PM | message detail |
From: MoogleKupo141 | #396 Main character of Lufia 2. He'd never get in but he's one of my favorite characters <_< --- http://i44.tinypic.com/166hz0l.gif Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
