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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 883

KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 11:44:27 AM | message detail
This board won't support Zell, as they're chicken-wusses.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:44:33 AM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #290
Jigglypuff would be weaker then Ness.


I 100% guarantee this is wrong. Ness is almost entirely a creation of Smash and starmen.net's small but fanatical fanbase. Jigglypuff has the exact same Smash advantage, but has the added benefit of being one of the most popular of the original 152. You can't possibly look at this contest, then deny being a well-known Pokemon in the original 152 means nothing.
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 11:44:59 AM | message detail
Kratos>Mega Man?

Man, these two Blue also-rans got screwed this year. Hopefully they can avoid Link and Mario (and maybe even Samus) in the future.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/17/2010 11:45:12 AM | message detail
Actually, we should get Rinoa in here, so when she gets doubled by Captain Falcon I can laugh her stupid ass out of this contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:45:21 AM | message detail
If I had won the Guru, I'd have picked Rinoa.

Second FFVIII character gets in and I torment 99% of the Gurus!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 11:45:33 AM | message detail
I think the problem with Jigglypuff is that most people just don't care about her. She's completely overshadowed by Kirby in Smash as the cute puffball character.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:45:47 AM | message detail
My optimal rally winners:

Seifer Almasy
Jigglypuff
Squirtle
Dark Link
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 11:45:57 AM | message detail
I'm pretty sure Rufus Shinra and Red XIII would be stronger than "Some FF8 character" by a wide margin.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:46:04 AM | message detail
Shockingly, Rinoa would not be the worst Guru choice in recent memory.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 11:46:18 AM | message detail
Rinoa would ensure that a decent FF8 character would never, ever come close to getting an NRT spot ever again.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:46:29 AM | message detail
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Rinoa ended up being the 2nd strongest FFVIII character. Like with Squall, the hate factor for her is pretty overrated.

But then again, Captain Falcon is as strong as Sonic nowadays, so only getting doubled would be pretty respectable!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:46:48 AM | message detail
Stop saying original 152, there was only 151 in the first generation.

Jigglypuff gets very little support from Smash as she sucks in every version of the game, and isn't popular in the game. She's decently popular in the anime (and is very popular in Japan) but that's all the strength she has. To expect her to be near Squirtle or Bulbasaur or anyone else that is a fan favorite in that game is asking to be burned.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:46:54 AM | message detail

From: creativename | #308
I'm pretty sure Rufus Shinra and Red XIII would be stronger than "Some FF8 character" by a wide margin.


Even Reno would be.


And after Jigglypuff bombed in the vote in contests last year, I think theres no way that the NRT will vote her as one of the finalists. This year was probably her best ever chance to get in.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:47:06 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #306
I think the problem with Jigglypuff is that most people just don't care about her. She's completely overshadowed by Kirby in Smash as the cute puffball character.


Kirby can't 0-death in all three games.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 11:47:15 AM | message detail
Like with Squall, the hate factor for her is pretty overrated.

Noooo it isn't man, and I say that as someone who likes Rinoa. Squall's hatebase is much smaller.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:47:21 AM | message detail

From: creativename | #308
I'm pretty sure Rufus Shinra and Red XIII would be stronger than "Some FF8 character" by a wide margin.


I'm all for Rufus Shinra. I don't know if the NRT will get behind "yet ANOTHER" FFVII character, especially after Cid didn't exactly pan out this year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:48:02 AM | message detail
Noooo it isn't man, and I say that as someone who likes Rinoa. Squall's hatebase is much smaller.

I didn't say Rinoa was hated less than Squall. I'm just saying that she still isn't as hated as people think.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/17/2010 11:48:34 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #307
Seifer Almasy


He'll get a KH picture and get SFF'd to death by Sora.

GET ZELL IN THIS ****ING THING

*runs around the world* /mwe
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 11:48:55 AM | message detail
Rufus worries me. How the hell did he not get into the Villains Contest? I feel like even if he would be strong, not even one of our rallies would be enough to get him in.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:49:24 AM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #312
Jigglypuff gets very little support from Smash as she sucks in every version of the game


And this is how you spot someone who knows nothing about Smash Brothers.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:49:24 AM | message detail
Did anyone even rally for Rufus?

I doubt most FFVII fanatics would nominate Rufus because of SEPHIROTH
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 11:49:30 AM | message detail
Rinoa's problem isn't just hate, it's that she'd have been weak back in the day and would be even weaker now. She's had no reason to boost or even stay remotely relevant like Squall. No exposure, nothing. She'd be going purely off FF8 strength - and that game is old. She'd never have been respectable in terms of strength in the first place.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/17/2010 11:49:34 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #316
I'm all for Rufus Shinra. I don't know if the NRT will get behind "yet ANOTHER" FFVII character, especially after Cid didn't exactly pan out this year.


I dislike FF7 as much as the next person and think we should try to get characters from good games in for a change, but its Rufus ****ing Shinra. In fact, we should nominate him by typing his name as "Rufus ****ing Shinra"
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:49:37 AM | message detail
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:49:45 AM | message detail
I feel like Rufus's popularity is a fabrication of the board. He'd bomb in a contest.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 11:49:46 AM | message detail
It was the villains contest. RAMIREZ got in.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:50:11 AM | message detail
Also, let's not use the whole "I don't know how strong that character would be considering he's never made a contest before!"

What contest appearance is this for Charizard again...?
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Achromatic | Posted 3/17/2010 11:50:34 AM | message detail
Yeah I mean, Tifa didn't get in for years no way she is popular- oh
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Mumei | Posted 3/17/2010 11:50:57 AM | message detail
On a totally different angle, Dark Link needs to get rallied into this next year.

Dark Link vs Link in the finals would be hilarious. Mido

I'm not sure about other Pokemon. I think that Pikachu, Mewtwo, and Charizard had good arguments - Pikachu was the face of the series and has lost some of the stigma that it had back in, say, 2002 (when we were only four years from the release of the series in the United States and the backlash was in full swing); Mewtwo had the movie and the status as the first overused uber in the game series; Charizard seemed (at least to me) to be the face of the final evolutions of the starters, probably got the best portrayal of any of the Pokemon Ash acquired, and had that awesomely useless card in Base Set.

I guess you could make an argument for, say, Jigglypuff being a mainstay of the anime and appearing in every SSB game or one of the other starters, but I just don't see them having the same intangibles / upside to them.

Then again, seeing as how Charizard is putting up nearly 46% right now, I suppose they don't need to be that good to be worth having.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:51:04 AM | message detail
Besides, I'd much rather nominate Random Piece of FFVII Furniture if we want another FFVII thing to get in.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 11:51:09 AM | message detail
There's a difference between not getting into the main bracket and not getting into a contest specifically for your group category of character.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:51:11 AM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #325
I feel like Rufus's popularity is a fabrication of the board. He'd bomb in a contest.


People who wouldn't vote for Rufus are bad people.

"A good son would have known."
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:51:29 AM | message detail
And this is how you spot someone who knows nothing about Smash Brothers.

I've owned and played all three games for years.

You might use her in your tournaments and crap, but that is a small minority of Smash players. Jigglypuff was always seen as a useless character in the game. She has one good move (rollout) and one crazy move that everyone tries to hit (sleep). Everything else about her completely fails, and most normal Smash players avoid her like the plague.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 11:52:02 AM | message detail
Rufus is one of the four FF7 characters I like, so I wouldn't mind! Just saying I'm a bit skeptical.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:53:21 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #331
There's a difference between not getting into the main bracket and not getting into a contest specifically for your group category of character.


I dunno. I don't think even I nominated Rufus for the Villains Contest. Sometimes the thought just never occurs to people, which is why board-wide rallies can be effective.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/17/2010 11:53:28 AM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #333
And this is how you spot someone who knows nothing about Smash Brothers.

I've owned and played all three games for years.

You might use her in your tournaments and crap, but that is a small minority of Smash players. Jigglypuff was always seen as a useless character in the game. She has one good move (rollout) and one crazy move that everyone tries to hit (sleep). Everything else about her completely fails, and most normal Smash players avoid her like the plague.


Uh, you do know Jiggylypuff is one of the best characters in Melee, right?
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 11:53:35 AM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #1605
I feel like Rufus's popularity is a fabrication of the board. He'd bomb in a contest.


His last name is "Shinra", FF7 fans will know who he is. At worst he's a couple points below Jecht.

Red XIII has more potential I believe, but Rufus would be fine. Maybe not a powerhouse, but respectable.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:54:00 AM | message detail
And I don't really care if the FFVIII character bombs. I just want to see a second one.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:54:19 AM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #333
And this is how you spot someone who knows nothing about Smash Brothers.

I've owned and played all three games for years.

You might use her in your tournaments and crap, but that is a small minority of Smash players. Jigglypuff was always seen as a useless character in the game. She has one good move (rollout) and one crazy move that everyone tries to hit (sleep). Everything else about her completely fails, and most normal Smash players avoid her like the plague.


X ****ING D

Stop talking. You're embarrassing yourself.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/17/2010 11:54:48 AM | message detail
I'm not sure about other Pokemon. I think that Pikachu, Mewtwo, and Charizard had good arguments - Pikachu was the face of the series and has lost some of the stigma that it had back in, say, 2002 (when we were only four years from the release of the series in the United States and the backlash was in full swing); Mewtwo had the movie and the status as the first overused uber in the game series; Charizard seemed (at least to me) to be the face of the final evolutions of the starters, probably got the best portrayal of any of the Pokemon Ash acquired, and had that awesomely useless card in Base Set.

I guess you could make an argument for, say, Jigglypuff being a mainstay of the anime and appearing in every SSB game or one of the other starters, but I just don't see them having the same intangibles / upside to them.


All the main Pokemon have been used already (unless you want to rally around Mew/starters), so everything else will be midcarders at best. Even Mew, who is seen as Mewtwo's equal in the series, will probably be a lot weaker then Mewtwo in this contest. Squirtle or Blastoise is the only two Pokemon (and Charmander I guess) that have any potential left, but they're not coming close to Pikachu or Charizard in these things.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2010 11:54:55 AM | message detail
Soul is right. Casuals have absolutely no idea how to use Jigglypuff.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:54:57 AM | message detail
let's all get together and affirmative action nominate next year

Barret, Sazh, and uh... let's pretend Garland is black and nominate him too.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:55:33 AM | message detail
If Sazh doesn't get into the next contest, it will be an outrage of the highest order.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:55:59 AM | message detail
As for nominating Pokemon I'm fine with only the ones playable in the Smash series.

Gym Leaders are fine too.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2010 11:56:32 AM | message detail
I don't think you're aware how popular Squirtle really is, no offense.

Like I said, I'm only familiar with them for the SSB-series -- I was speaking of personal preference anyway.


As for Jigglypuff:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3691

Sorry, but assuming Missingno ~= Yoshi in the Nintendo-ranks, anybody Yoshi would try to quadruple with SFF isn't somebody I really want to see. She's loved by a very select crowd in the SSB-series, but she also draws more hate than probably any other character in the series aside from Pichu. She's one of the characters I don't think anybody ever uses outside of the single-player mode unless they main her, and I don't think many do. I can't speak much about the Pokemon-side of her, but if Missingno tries to quadruple her despite never seeing the SSB-series, I don't have a lot of interest in her contest-strength. Does she even beat Mudkip with Missingno's removed?
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creativename | Posted 3/17/2010 11:57:18 AM | message detail
Rufus not making the villains contest makes sense to me. I'm not even sure everybody considers him a villain.

The only villain that's going to be nomed from FF7 is Sephiroth anyway. It would never have occurred to me to nominate him for the villains contest, and it's probably the same for most. That means nothing in terms of whether he'd have strength though.
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LOLContests | Posted 3/17/2010 11:57:23 AM | message detail
Seifer
Epona
Goomba
Chocobo
Mog

My 5. Off the top of my head. I still like my idea of it going 2 Snubs/2 Returners/1 Newb (since noms opened for this contest) in which case it would go:

Epona
Goomba
Chun-Li
Lara Croft
Bayonetta or some side FFXIII character
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2010 11:57:29 AM | message detail
No, Jiggz wouldn't be as strong as Mudkipz.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/17/2010 11:57:33 AM | message detail
Also Ulti there is a difference between professional players and casual players. Jigglypuff's learning curve is probably one of the largests in the entire series.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/17/2010 11:57:37 AM | message detail
I don't want Bayonetta to make the contest anymore. She'd get wrecked.
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