GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 881
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/16/2010 2:51:33 PM | message detail |
From: EternalxCourage | #395 Fine, but why did she only manage 38% and 33% against Sephiroth last year? You'd think she could have TRIED to match this performance, at least in the meaningless first round with no competition. I find it almost impossible that Seph could have legitimately suffered a drop in raw strength (like, say, the Kingdom Hearts guys have) while Tifa escapes smelling like roses. How does that make sense? He's getting anti-voted. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 2:52:40 PM | message detail |
I
find it almost impossible that Seph could have legitimately suffered a
drop in raw strength (like, say, the Kingdom Hearts guys have) You do realize a good portion of Cloud and Sephiroth's strength comes from the Kingdom Hearts boost? --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/16/2010 2:52:44 PM | message detail |
Seph has been getting anti-voted all contest. So have Link and Cloud. There's clearly some backlash here. The only shocker is that Missigno didn't beat him. I thought for sure he was going to get to Snake when he beat Crono in the first round. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/16/2010 2:52:48 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #397 For a guy who's universally disliked, he sure is awful... liked. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 2:53:05 PM | message detail |
You know what I meant. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:53:13 PM | message detail |
Oh, and assuming Sephiroth = Snake, here's what your stats look like! Solid Snake – 50.00% Missingno - 47.12% Crono - 46.85% Yoshi - 45.70% Pikachu – 44.80% Tifa Lockhart - 44.20% Squall Leonhart – 40.83% Auron – 39.35% Vincent Valentine - 37.34% Big Daddy - 34.95% Commander Shepard – 34.94% Zero – 34.08% Gordon Freeman - 33.63% Aerith Gainsborough – 33.34% Fox McCloud – 32.97% Ness - 31.90% Princess Peach - 31.44% Terra Branford – 28.97% Marth - 28.20% Protoman – 27.65% Soap MacTavish - 26.74% Darth Revan – 26.73% Akuma – 26.12% Geno - 22.45% Marcus Fenix – 22.38% Banjo – 22.32% Lloyd Irving – 21.59% Jak - 21.36% Yuri Lowell - 18.83% Ellis – 16.92% Guybrush Threepwood - 16.85% LOL Guybrush --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 3/16/2010 2:53:53 PM | message detail |
I find it almost impossible that Seph could have legitimately suffered a drop in raw strength (like, say, the Kingdom Hearts guys have) while Tifa escapes smelling like roses. How does that make sense? He's getting anti-voted. Considering the boost he got out of that, it actually does make some sense. --- KrahenProphet and Nintendo cleaned me out in the Guru Contest. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:54:08 PM | message detail |
Oh, and uhh...Sephiroth with 50.00% at the top there tied with Snake. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
EternalxCourage | Posted 3/16/2010 2:54:58 PM | message detail |
Yoblazer
you are talking about a 4 way poll where Tifa isn't a fan of casuals
and she has to compete with Seph. Obviously she isn't going to do as
well there as in a 1v1 situation. Especially where some people that
would prefer Tifa to Sephiroth have other choices in the poll. --- The ultimate Snow fanboy - Curt Yeah...it probably is. But I've got to do something, right? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:55:20 PM | message detail |
Yoblazer you are talking about a 4 way poll where Tifa isn't a fan of casuals Uhhhhh --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:56:55 PM | message detail |
Shoot yourself in the foot or shoot yourself in the head. Nice options besides Sephiroth and Tifa. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 197/240 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Sephiroth |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 2:57:26 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #401 Do I really need to bring up "LOL 4WAY STATS" again? Today and Kirby should make it abundantly obvious. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· People with one foot in the coffin shouldn't jump around. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 2:57:59 PM | message detail |
Pikachu – 44.80% Tifa Lockhart - 44.20% hahaha wut --- Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:58:02 PM | message detail |
No,
you really don't because it's silly that you let a few obviously flukey
results mean we can't take a single one seriously, which is dumb. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:58:56 PM | message detail |
Pikachu – 44.80% Tifa Lockhart - 44.20% hahaha wut Obviously Pikachu > Tifa is a lock. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 197/240 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Sephiroth |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 3:00:28 PM | message detail |
I have just one question. Why couldn't Mewtwo have beasted like all the other Pokemon? Him upending Ganondorf would have been awesome! --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:01:29 PM | message detail |
Obviously ulti is still upset that one of the main reasons people took Samus > Mario was because lol x-stats. Then again if I went with my instinct characters like Dante and Crono would be a lot weaker than I expected. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 197/240 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Sephiroth |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:02:04 PM | message detail |
PokeFAQs didn't come into affect until round 2. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 197/240 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Sephiroth |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:02:16 PM | message detail |
How ironic would it be if Missingno supporters took this contest more seriously than anyone else? I think this was already fairly obvious. Most people just vote for their favorite, they don't become angry that Link and Cloud always win and try to find someone who can dethrone them. Further, most people don't rally. --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 3:02:33 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #414 I wouldn't say dismiss them entirely, but a 1 on 1 poll will be far more mathematically accurate when comparing two characters. You don't need a doctorate in mathematics to figure out 1 + 1 = 2 is easier than 2 + 2x = y. Too many variables in 4ways to translate into 1v1 results transitively. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 3:03:19 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #416 Don't remind me. My favorite Pokemon of all gets stuck losing in round 1 during a pokefad contest. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:04:22 PM | message detail |
Well
technically speaking, our most commonly used 4-way extrapolation method
produces inconsistent result within the same match. Like, Duke got
39.5% on Zack, but if you extrapolate them through Link in the very same match, Duke only gets like 36% or something. --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 3:04:59 PM | message detail |
I wouldn't say dismiss them entirely Could've fooled me. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 3:06:22 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #422 And there's the other problem. 4ways aren't consistent from day to day, let alone year to year. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ Don't you think my eyebrows rock? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 3:07:11 PM | message detail |
Tifa just gained .05% in that update? California ASV activate. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
BanCapitalism | Posted 3/16/2010 3:07:25 PM | message detail |
LOL sephiroth, snake wins |
creativename | Posted 3/16/2010 3:12:08 PM | message detail |
I
think Link has suffered a minor drop this year due to favorite
anti-votes, but I think Cloud and Sephiroth are not only getting more
anti-votes than ever, but that FF7 is just getting too old. They're
slowly declining in strength, and I think will continue to do so. If
they don't get upset this year, they'll be ripe to get upset by
Mario/Samus/Snake/Joke next contest. Btw on 4-way stats, they've been pretty accurate a number of times if you have a clue as to what you're doing and actually use logic. I have no idea Ulti why you're so obsessed with bashing them. No one treats them like gospel or anything, pretty much everyone uses them with a grain of salt - but they have been useful. Far more useful than I think any of us expected, especially early in the contest. Pretty much none of the real stats regs gave them credit pre-contest, and most of us were taken aback when they proved surprisingly accurate time and again. From: charmander6000 | #1959 This has always been the case. No one works harder to support their guys than joke people. The stuffing/rallying takes effort - something very few characters inspire. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 3:14:30 PM | message detail |
Yep, I've gotten 10 Top 5 Oracle predictions this contest just doing straight 2008 stats! --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
creativename | Posted 3/16/2010 3:15:13 PM | message detail |
Oh, and a pet peeve of mine - Everyone is transitive. Repeat after me: Everyone. Is. Transitive! :) It's linearity that people are referring to. Characters can be non-linear. Transitivity is 100% always the case. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:15:48 PM | message detail |
I
find it almost impossible that Seph could have legitimately suffered a
drop in raw strength (like, say, the Kingdom Hearts guys have) I agree with this. Characters as strong as Sephiroth don't just fall off the face of the Earth like that, and certainly not without Tifa falling too. If it is anti-votes directed against an obvious winner, as in the Villains Contest, the nice thing for Sephiroth is that anti-votes are worth less and less as you get closer to an even match. The reason is that the vast majority of people who would anti-vote Sephiroth against Snake would vote Snake over Sephiroth anyway, whereas a lot of people who are anti-voting Seph today may be indifferent between him and Tifa normally (i.e. they hate everything from FFVII) or even favor Sephiroth (i.e. there are characters they'd vote Sephiroth over but not Tifa normally, but because they know Seph will win they vote for Tifa to make it closer). Sephiroth/Snake is big. I can still see Sephiroth doing to Snake here what he did to Mario in 2005, though I'll probably predict more like 52% and Snake has a great chance at winning. --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 3:17:49 PM | message detail |
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creativename | Posted 3/16/2010 3:17:56 PM | message detail |
A
lot more people will jump on Snake>Sephiroth once Samus embarrasses
Cloud tonight. Man the Power Hours will be ugly for Cloud. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 3:18:11 PM | message detail |
FF7 hasn't dropped in strength? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1659 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2186 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3509 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3552 --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 3:18:24 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #432 Tomorrow night. Tonight is Link/Sonic. --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:18:50 PM | message detail |
FFVII
has dropped in strength, and I've been saying it for months. But not
enough for Crono to actually get 47% on Sephiroth (though what a
glorious result that would be). --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 3:19:45 PM | message detail |
Crono
being underrated vs. Missingno & Missingno being overrated vs.
Sephiroth + antivotes = never use pure stats in this contest without
taking a gigantic grain of salt --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
creativename | Posted 3/16/2010 3:20:02 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #2154 Oh. Damn. Why is this stupid lame Link/Sonic match getting in the way of our main events!! :) At least Mario/Charizard is vaguely interesting just to see what Zard gets. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Denzokuken | Posted 3/16/2010 3:23:10 PM | message detail |
The
reason is that the vast majority of people who would anti-vote
Sephiroth against Snake would vote Snake over Sephiroth anyway This exactly. I'm gonna give Snake a chance - I wasn't before - after this. I didn't expect Missingno backlash to be quite so extreme, either that or this is a hefty case of rSFF. But I can still see Seph pulling out a 55-45 job far more than I can see Snake doing the same thing to him. Seph is almost certainly intrinsically stronger, but like in 2008 there might just be a perfect storm for Snakey to do something shocking. Cloud/Samus taking place immediately before might even affect things. |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:23:14 PM | message detail |
Crono
being underrated vs. Missingno & Missingno being overrated vs.
Sephiroth + antivotes = never use pure stats in this contest without
taking a gigantic grain of salt I just had a thought. What if it were Crono here, instead of Tifa, and in a night match? ..........................................................!!!!!!!!! Fanboyism will pay off eventually. Crono > Sephiroth will eventually happen! --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 3:25:32 PM | message detail |
FF7 to lose for 24 straight hours, let's do this --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/16/2010 3:26:09 PM | message detail |
This
is just shaping up to be like Snake/MM from 2006. MM was the heavy
favorite and most people were like "Man, this upset has 0% of
happening, remember how MM trashed Snake the last time they met" Snake
then went on to do well in most of his matches while MM/Sephy looked
kinda unimpressive and controversial in their matches. Next we have
people trying to convince everyone that MM/Sephy weren't unimpressive,
KH2 Sora/ Tifa might just be hanging around Snake's strength. Then Snake/MM happened, and i guess you already know what happened then. IMHO, Sephiroth is still the slight favorite going into the match but i would be very surprised if Snake doesn't give him one hell of a fight with the massive bandwagon/rally/momentum and Missingno backlash. --- Snake's Mission "To make it to the finals for the fourth consecutive times" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 3:26:39 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #440 Well, we've got Cloud/Sephiroth and Cloud/Link for that! --- Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created. |
Denzokuken | Posted 3/16/2010 3:26:44 PM | message detail |
FF7 to lose for 24 straight hours, let's do this could be the grossest contest day in history! If that happens I would want Link to smash Snake/Samus into the ground, the foolish upstarts. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 3:27:21 PM | message detail |
FF7 to lose for 24 straight hours by someone not named Link! --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4 |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:30:57 PM | message detail |
Also,
you better at least double Sonic tonight, Link. If you can't even pull
off the doubling.......well normally the Cloud hype train would be
steaming ahead, but this year, it'll just get a "augh" from me. --- 2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth. All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled! |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:32:28 PM | message detail |
Would you take MMX > Sonic? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 197/240 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Sephiroth |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/16/2010 3:32:42 PM | message detail |
How is Link going to double Sonic, he barely doubled X --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 3:33:45 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #429 Okay I'm not a math major, so someone like you or Guy or Dabu needs to explain this to me. Transitivity: Mathematics: noting a relation in which one element in relation to a second element and the second in relation to a third element implies the first element is in relation to the third element, as the relation “less than or equal to.” Linearity: Mathematics: a. consisting of, involving, or describable by terms of the first degree. b. having the same effect on a sum as on each of the summands: a linear operation. These look exactly the same to me -- that is, they suggest an A > B > C relationship in math. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9416/eziogaiden.png |
creativename | Posted 3/16/2010 3:35:06 PM | message detail |
Well I suppose the hyper-optimistic Cloud>Link supporters can always point to this as the standard :) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1362 Link could potentially SFF Sonic though. Or maybe Sonic has absorbed Kirby's bandwagon power! --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename | Posted 3/16/2010 3:39:25 PM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #2208 Transivity means A>B>C. Non-transitive Missingno for instance would imply Yoshi beats Sephiroth. The only opportunity for something to be non-transitive would be two back to back very close matches where minor fluctuations could alter things - say Starcraft, if the matches were even closer. Or, some day/night very close match scenario where the time of day affected things; but I don't know if that scenario would really "count", because it's not a fair comparison. Linearity is just the multiplication we use. x-stats. A gets 60% on B, B got 60% on C, so A gets 68% on C. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
