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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 881

KingBartz | Posted 3/16/2010 2:14:45 PM | message detail
Charizard has 0% chance of upsetting Mario.

Charizard is still something of an unknown. Yeah, it is extremely unlikely he will win, but it is a possibility, you must admit. We just don't know yet.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:16:52 PM | message detail
As a *complete* afterthought in 2008's final Crono managed 26.5% on Link - a far cry from Vincent's 21% in that match.

Yeah, but he wasn't fanbase sharing on top of that (I doubt Cloud/Crono had any significant LFF).

Snake got 26.80% on L-Block in that 2008 final, too.

From victory to getting tripled over, what, 4 rounds? Nice.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:17:49 PM | message detail

From: KingBartz | #351
Charizard has 0% chance of upsetting Mario.

Charizard is still something of an unknown. Yeah, it is extremely unlikely he will win, but it is a possibility, you must admit. We just don't know yet.


Man, Bowser ain't gettin' 45% on Mario. I suppose there's a possibility Charizard could have some sort of bandwagon going, but I'd consider 'Zard getting 40% against Mario impressive enough.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/16/2010 2:18:38 PM | message detail
Ok can someone just figure out what Seph would be projected to get on Samus in the most recent, most RELIABLE stats?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:19:01 PM | message detail
Yeah, but he wasn't fanbase sharing on top of that (I doubt Cloud/Crono had any significant LFF).

Right, that's my point. I don't begrudge Vincent for getting SFF'd by Sephiroth - what I don't buy is the notion that Vincent was screwed because he was in a match with the big boys (Link and Mario).
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:19:38 PM | message detail
No-one answered my question.Well duh...
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paulg235 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:20:11 PM | message detail
Division of Fun!
1) Sonic The Hedgehog
16) Ryu (SF)

8) Tifa Lockheart
9) Auron

5) Crono
12) Kirby

4) Luigi
13) Bowser

3) Squall Leonheart
14) Ganondorf

6) Pikachu
11) Mega Man X

7) Charizard
10) Vincent Valentine

2) Mega Man
15) Dante
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:20:59 PM | message detail
Yes, the Yoshi loss was bad at the time, but overall, he looks fine that year.

2k5 Dante is expected to get 40% on 2k5 Samus

Remember how Snake 'looked bad' against Nintendo characters in 2k6? GameBoy Snake is expected to get 57% on Dante through a match where he supposedly underperformed for two reasons, one of which had allowed Bowser to almost beat him the year before. Dante only looks fine because he's based on GameBoy Snake. But hey, I'm fine with Pikachu > Squall!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:21:58 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #354
Ok can someone just figure out what Seph would be projected to get on Samus in the most recent, most RELIABLE stats?


You'd have to go all the way back to 2004 for that, since we have Mario/Samus in 2005.

And at that point, it's not even worth considering, but Sephiroth gets 53.42% there. He did face Cloud that year, for whatever that's worth.

Tifa predicts a 55.27% win for Sephiroth, if you take both matches straight at face value
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:23:43 PM | message detail
2k5 Dante is expected to get 40% on 2k5 Samus

2005 Samus has a value?

Oh right, adjusted stats.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that Dante overperformed on Vincent due to BRACKETS and being the 1 seed that year. He hasn't come close to matching that level of performance since.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/16/2010 2:24:50 PM | message detail
Ok, so take away a few from Seph for anti-voting and rSFF, and take some away from Samus for the pic.

I think even at 53% win over Samus with Seph that makes Tifa look way legit. In fact, I think she might be on Snake's level.

I think Snake loses to Seph at 55-45 at least.

If that happens I think it's safe to say Tifa is the 6th or 7th strongest.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/16/2010 2:28:57 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3849&region=USXCA
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3848&region=USXCA

Cali ASV will be unkind to Seph in a couple of days.
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KingBartz | Posted 3/16/2010 2:29:17 PM | message detail
division of fun

1) Sonic The Hedgehog
8) Tifa Lockheart
5) Crono
4) Luigi
3) Squall Leonheart
11) Mega Man X
7) Charizard
2) Mega Man

1) Sonic The Hedgehog
4) Luigi
3) Squall Leonheart
2) Mega Man

1) Sonic The Hedgehog
2) Mega Man

2) Mega Man

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:30:37 PM | message detail
1) Sonic The Hedgehog
8) Tifa Lockheart
5) Crono
13) Bowser
3) Squall Leonheart
11) Mega Man X
10) Vincent Valentine
2) Mega Man

Tifa
Crono
Squall
Mega Man

Tifa
Mega Man

Tifa
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:31:05 PM | message detail
Okay, so Snake needs to beat Sephiroth with at least 53.40% (assuming Tifa finishes with 44% exactly) to get Squall > Tifa.

Man, Snake, you're setting a high standard here! You better not disappoint me!
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/16/2010 2:31:17 PM | message detail
1) Sonic The Hedgehog
8) Tifa Lockheart


5) Crono
4) Luigi

3) Squall Leonheart
11) Mega Man X


10) Vincent Valentine
2) Mega Man


8) Tifa Lockheart
4) Luigi

3) Squall Leonheart
2) Mega Man

8) Tifa Lockheart
2) Mega Man

2) Mega Man
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:32:20 PM | message detail
Watch Seph get 57% on Snake and we have no idea where Tifa is.

Again.
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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/16/2010 2:33:02 PM | message detail
XD at Tifa being at Snake's level, so you telling me that Big Daddy could contend with Squall/Vincent or even better, Ness could suddenly beat guys like Yoshi/Luigi/Ryu/Pikachu/Dante.

This isn't just rSFF, this is just plain anti-votes and maybe backlash for beating Missingno. If Tifa can benefit so much of Sephiroth's anti-voting(she is still from FF7 though not as hated), imagine what Snake can do with those Sephy's anti-voting.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:34:22 PM | message detail
God, I think if you told Leon pre-contest Big Daddy > Squall he'd shoot himself.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:35:23 PM | message detail
I think if you told Leon pre-contest Big Daddy > Squall he'd shoot himself.

Nah, I'd know there'd be SFF or something somewhere!

Which is what we're gonna get, most likely.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/16/2010 2:35:34 PM | message detail
No, if Snake gets 43% on Seph it would work out to be Tifa around Snake's strength, or just barely weaker. I figure account for 2 - 3% at most from the anti-voting/rSFF, and then the same for the picture thing with Samus. If that's the case, it should mean that Snake is stronger than Tifa as long as he can keep above 43%. Otherwise I would say Tifa is stronger.

Also, I already explained as to why I think that Tifa doesn't blow out weaker characters so much. It's more of a hate/hardcore fanbase thing. I don't think she attracts a lot of casuals, and she gets anti-voted (although not as noticecably) because of her character design (rTJF). After all, any time you hear someone complain about Tifa it's "YOU GUYS JUST LIKE HER BECAUSE SHE HAS BIG BOOBS!!!!"
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:36:24 PM | message detail
Silly Leon, Snake's going to rSFF Seph to get to that 43%!

Peach > Squall 'aww yeah'
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:36:58 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #372
Silly Leon, Snake's going to rSFF Seph to get to that 43%!

Peach > Squall 'aww yeah'


Pffffft, nobody cares about Peach
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/16/2010 2:38:49 PM | message detail
Remember when Tifa scored 38% on Seph in 2008, and it surprised everyone? Imagine if she had done this back then.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/16/2010 2:39:05 PM | message detail
So..... enormous Sephiroth drop? Tifa 2k6 was legit? Extremely weird SFF situation?

This is probably the most surprising result of the contest....
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:39:47 PM | message detail
If she had done this back then we might have gotten Sonic > Sephiroth! ...or Sephiroth > Tifa > Sonic!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 2:40:46 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #373
Pffffft, nobody cares about Peach


Ahem.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/16/2010 2:40:58 PM | message detail

From: Wii_TuRtLe | #375
So..... enormous Sephiroth drop? Tifa 2k6 was legit? Extremely weird SFF situation?

This is probably the most surprising result of the contest....


I think we can expect the late-game to be a series of surprises from this point on. I'm not even sure what classifies as surprising anymore, because it's not hard to explain why this is happening. Hell, the most surprising thing might be Roxas doing alright for himself after the other KH guys looked like absolute balls.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:41:00 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #377
Ahem.


I stand by my statement.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:41:41 PM | message detail
PeachartFour
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:42:49 PM | message detail
Remember when Tifa scored 38% on Seph in 2008, and it surprised everyone? Imagine if she had done this back then.

We'd have called for Kirby > Sephiroth!

And we'd have been right.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/16/2010 2:43:23 PM | message detail
I think we can expect the late-game to be a series of surprises from this point on. I'm not even sure what classifies as surprising anymore, because it's not hard to explain why this is happening. Hell, the most surprising thing might be Roxas doing alright for himself after the other KH guys looked like absolute balls.

I had Roxas > Sub-Zero
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:43:29 PM | message detail
Since no one answered I repeat it one more time.

So a question for experts.

Link/Sonic=Link wins with 0% change of upset
Mario/Charizard=Mario wins with 5% change of upset
Samus/Cloud=Cloud wins with 25% change of upset
Snake/Sephiroth=Sephiroth wins with 50% change of upset

So that is?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:43:31 PM | message detail
And yeah, I don't know if you can really take this performance at face value. This match is one of three things to me:

1. Sephiroth is just weaker now (which is good news for Snake)
2. Sephiroth is getting anti-voted, either by Missingno supporters or people hoping for an upset (which is good news for Snake)
3. Tifa is rSFFing Sephiroth and/or Sephiroth SFF'd Vincent (which is the best scenario for Sephiroth)

I don't really think it could be anything else. Tifa only getting 60.45% on Big Daddy and 62% on Gordon Freeman doesn't seem like "Strongest non-Noble Niner" numbers to me.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 2:43:39 PM | message detail
Peach top tier.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 2:44:26 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #384
And yeah, I don't know if you can really take this performance at face value. This match is one of three things to me:

1. Sephiroth is just weaker now (which is good news for Snake)
2. Sephiroth is getting anti-voted, either by Missingno supporters or people hoping for an upset (which is good news for Snake)
3. Tifa is rSFFing Sephiroth and/or Sephiroth SFF'd Vincent (which is the best scenario for Sephiroth)

I don't really think it could be anything else. Tifa only getting 60.45% on Big Daddy and 62% on Gordon Freeman doesn't seem like "Strongest non-Noble Niner" numbers to me.


How ironic would it be if Missingno supporters took this contest more seriously than anyone else?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:45:01 PM | message detail
It'd be like rain on your wedding day.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:45:16 PM | message detail
Jokes are serious business.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/16/2010 2:45:34 PM | message detail
I don't really think it could be anything else. Tifa only getting 60.45% on Big Daddy and 62% on Gordon Freeman doesn't seem like "Strongest non-Noble Niner" numbers to me.

Easily explained. Also look at some of the other big hitters this contest. None of them have been putting up real impressive numbers. I've already explained why this could be a bunch of times though.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 2:45:44 PM | message detail
AND A BLACK FLYYYYYYYY IN YOUR CHARRRR-DONAAAAAAAAAAY, or however you spell it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 2:46:14 PM | message detail
Haven't we seen like ten results so far that point to Clinkeroth being weaker?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:46:29 PM | message detail
Yeah, but going on Squall/Auron, you end up with Squall getting 60% on Aerith. Not taking Big Daddy or Gordon over Aerith yet.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/16/2010 2:47:01 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #384
1. Sephiroth is just weaker now (which is good news for Snake)
2. Sephiroth is getting anti-voted, either by Missingno supporters or people hoping for an upset (which is good news for Snake)


I think these two go hand-in-hand. Seph didn't look awful last year until the end of the contest, which is kinda like what's happening this year. FFVII is no longer the top dog around here, but it still obliterates everything but Ocarina, and nothing in the earlier, more "legit" 4way rounds suggested such a drop for Seph. He might be weaker just because more people are anti-voting him. Of course, this would suggest that he'd also get more and more weak as the contest dragged on, and that IS good news for Snake.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:48:03 PM | message detail
Well, by #2, I'd mean that he's getting anti-voted disproportionately more in this match than he had been against Marth and Vincent.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/16/2010 2:49:23 PM | message detail
IDK. I think people need to also consider the idea that Tifa is legitimately strong, and that she just isn't a big blowout machine.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/16/2010 2:49:49 PM | message detail
And that she just comes up big where it counts.


....>.>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 2:49:52 PM | message detail
Seph is pretty much the 'face' of the anti-vote sentiment so far. He's nearly universally disliked while they seem to tolerate Cloud (more or less), and then he had to go and beat Missingno, which pissed off a lot of people.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 2:50:00 PM | message detail
I believe she's legitimately strong. Don't get me wrong about that. She could give Squall and Vincent a run for their money potentially, but she's not that much stronger than them, if she is at all.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/16/2010 2:50:09 PM | message detail
Didn't they thrash GameSpot when Bub & Bob lost?

They laugh because people care so much yet it seems that they are the ones that care the most.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/16/2010 2:50:51 PM | message detail
IDK. I think people need to also consider the idea that Tifa is legitimately strong, and that she just isn't a big blowout machine.

heh