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Actually, I take that back. There is one character who could do it: Samus Aran.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!

Tifa's only doing well in CA because the ASV hasn't started yet. Seph's dominating the ASV, so he'll go up plenty there once it hits.

Yup, it's the same bad logic that people used to say Missingno would come back on Seph because the former was winning in the USA. Seph ended up winning the morning vote there and the USA overall.

CA has predicted its own trends every time.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4

Well I'll all but guarantee you that Sephiroth will win in CA today. Trends aren't going to vary much from state to state, even from coast to coast.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!

He'll win it, yeah, but...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3849&region=US&map=1

Tifa is going to recover the % at the end of the ASV.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4

*some %

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4

Let's play "Rank the Near Elites!"

Squall
Vincent
Tifa
Auron
Charizard
Pikachu
Missingno
Ganondorf
Bowser
Luigi
Yoshi
Kirby
Ryu
Dante
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

From: LeonhartFour | #307
Let's play "Rank the Near Elites!"

Squall
Vincent
Tifa
Auron
Charizard
Pikachu
Missingno
Ganondorf
Bowser
Luigi
Yoshi
Kirby
Ryu
Dante

It seems like so much depends on the round, picture, time period, and momentum now that I'd rather not even bother anymore. We really have to consider many more factors for each match now, and I think that's a lot more fun. I'm already looking forward to the next contest.
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Charizard=Luigi
a bunch of posers

there that's perfect

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4

No Mega Man X?

Also I did not limit the posers category to characters on Leon's list

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4

ooh

Tifa
Vincent
Squall
Auron
Pikachu
Charizard
Luigi
Kirby
Ganondorf
Ryu
Dante
Bowser
Yoshi


*Missingno (can't rank; not transitive)

Now that I see that list, I agree that we have too many near-elites. It used to be 5 or 6 characters only.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!

Missingno is actually looking very transitive after today.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8OjPKN9B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrSUvrXRc4

oh...I didn't realise Squall did THAT badly on Snake. Hmm, maybe put Pikachu just above him.

I'm so mad that Snake/Sephiroth is on Thursday. I'm gonna spend all day watching basketball and missing the match. Especially now that it looks like Snake will win.
The separation between the top (even Link it seems like now) is much less than in years previous. I think that's a good thing, don't you?

Not bothering with putting Missingno on here. He can beat any of these characters, but he could also lose to half of them.

Tifa
(Crono)
Vincent
Squall
Auron
(Sonic)
Charizard
Megaman X
Pikachu
Ryu
Dante
Bowser
Kirby
Yoshi
Luigi
Ganondorf
Zelda
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!

Missingno is actually looking very transitive after today.

That is a possibility. It would require that the small gap between Crono and Yoshi is explained by Crono suffering from a day match and at least 2700 rallied votes. Without those, Crono/Yoshi because a 56/44 match or worse which is no longer so strange. It also requires that Sephiroth took a huge dive since 2008, and SFF'd Vincent pretty hard. I don't believe this latter one. We (I) thought the same thing in 2005, and it turned out to be false. Rather, it was Sephiroth underperforming due to being the obvious favorite.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!

Or it could be explained that MissingNo. suffers from SFF against decently strong nintendo characters.

Squall
Auron
Vincent
Tifa
Bowser
(Crono)
Charizard
Missingno
Yoshi
Pikachu
Kirby
Ganondorf
Luigi
Ryu
Dante

Although I would consider Crono the cut off for Near Elite level personally and leave the rest as high end midcarders.
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"In the end, you have to choose whether you're going to live as a soldier, or just another man with a gun."-- The Boss
Yesmar

The Crono/Yoshi non-gap is easy: Mario characters are the ultimate anti-joke kryptonite. If you switch Mario and Sephiroth in this bracket, Missingno would have never threatened in the round 3 match.
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If anyone is fit to shine, it is I.

Well, KP was looking for a solution that had Missingno being linear and transitive.
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!

"Was it serious?"
[Cloud, asking about ZACK]
"No, nothing serious"

Crisis Core made Aerith look like a ***** for saying that.

Or it could be Aerith trying to defend her heart by saying that over and over again. It's pretty clear in just about everything that the two are extremely close/in love, even in the movie. I think she offered a date to Cloud because she wanted to see if he'd have the same reaction Zack did. I mean, come on. Aside from the hair color, the two had the same weapon and mostly the same outfit. I think people aren't giving Aerith enough credit because of what happened to her, so we didn't get those answers outright.

I digress, though, since it's my creative writing taking over. I'm glad Tifa is doing this well, and am curious to see if the next round will prove Tifa's strength or debunk it.
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Aerith: Who would you go for? Marth, Roy, or Link? If you had to choose.
Peach: Link. I'd sooner slap the other two around. Literally.Aerith on the other hand...

Missingno could very well be transitive within 5% or so. We'll know after the Snake/Seph match. If Snake wins with ease, then yeah.
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Is a momentary gleam all you need?

Man.

Tifa is definitely the strongest non N9er, I would say. I said it before this contest, and during it, but I think this cements it. I mean, ultimately you can come up with whatever you want but it makes sense. I would even go so far as to say that Tifa might be able to beat Mega Man and Sonic. I mean, look how she did against Samus, and how she is doing against Sephiroth here. SFF is usually hard to explain, but against two major N9ers in the last 4 years...Tifa is legit.

It makes sense to me that the lead female from the most popular game on this site has strength of that level. 45% on Sephiroth is no joke -- and I would be surprised if Snake managed that in their match. She's also gotten KHs, AC and Crisis Core etc.

Anyway, Sonic might be able to break 40% on Sonic tomorrow. I have a FEELING. I know it won't happen, but one can hope.

Also next contest Snow and Lightning are going to ravage.
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The ultimate Snow fanboy - Curt
Yeah...it probably is. But I've got to do something, right?

Gotta Say Tifa doing not so bad of a job here resisting the SSF.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

What the....

Enjoy your free pass to Cloud, Snake.
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Mustache...and Green...

I did forget to include MMX, but I deliberately didn't include Zelda because she had such an awful year this year. If you want to throw her onto that list, you have to include Big Boss, since he did the same on Mario that Zelda did on Samus.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

*logs on, votes*

....holy crap Tifa > Vincent confirmed.
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That's what we were thinking, until the explanations for vincent>Tifa came in.
I'm not totally convinced, but still.....
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Shakes Fist!

Oh, and I guess I should ask which of those near elites you take to beat Sonic, Crono, or even Mega Man, I guess.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

no one's touching megaman.
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Shakes Fist!

Thoughts:

1) Apparently it's been brought up, but Missingno doesn't look like such a joke after all. Day Crono and day Yoshi probably aren't far off, plus there were a couple hundred, er, off-trend votes in Missingno/Crono. If Missingno is legit close to Sephy then this more or less makes sense.

2) Seph tripled Vincent in 2007 and merely doubled Tifa in 2008, so there's some precedent for either Tifa > Vincent by a longshot or (more likely) Tifa doing a considerably better job of resisting SFF. It seems quite possible that Seph did hit Vincent pretty hard with SFF and he should have gotten in the mid-forties (like Tifa) or even a bit higher (like Crono).

2a) On a related note, I thought it was a bit weird when people were saying that we haven't seen any SFF. Just take, say, Luigi. He obviously SFF'd Meta-Knight a great deal and then was SFF'd himself by Link. Just because he wasn't blasted into the ground like Yoshi was doesn't mean there wasn't any SFF - not even mentioning the fact that a fair Link/Luigi 2010 is an awful lot closer than a fair Link/Yoshi 2004.
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Mustache...and Green...

You know, the interesting thing is that Sephiroth isn't blowing out Tifa anywhere. He doesn't have 60% in any of the major regions on Geolocation (he has 59% in the Philippines, but that's the closest). It's about 55/45 everywhere.

It was the same thing for Sephy/Vincent, too. It ranged from 62-65% nearly everywhere.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

Oh, there have definitely been SFF matches this year. We just haven't seen it be all that brutal this year like in years past.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

Try to argue out this match being legit if you want, but it implies that someone like Mario absolutely steamrolls Sephiroth. That's one I'm not pulling the trigger on.
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Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!

man, imagine what happens when you combine the full potential of the FFVII fanbase.
like this is the FFVII army divided in two, once reunited for a common cause...
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Shakes Fist!

Try to argue out this match being legit if you want, but it implies that someone like Mario absolutely steamrolls Sephiroth.

What's wrong with Tifa > Mega Man, hmm?

And Vincent beats Big Boss pretty easily, I figure.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

Well, we'll see in, what, two days with Snake? Sephy's looked all sorts of bad, though he's had excuses, and Mario's looked great.

Has anyone come up with any compelling reasons why this isn't legit?
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Mustache...and Green...

From: RPGuy96 | #339
Well, we'll see in, what, two days with Snake? Sephy's looked all sorts of bad, though he's had excuses, and Mario's looked great.

Has anyone come up with any compelling reasons why this isn't legit?

No. All I can think of is Tifa is legit and Seph can't SFF FF7 characters (the latter we've seen dating all the way back to 2003), but this still looks very, very bad.
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"Oh that the world were more like Ulti." -Meeks

Has anyone come up with any compelling reasons why this isn't legit?

Well, I don't think Tifa gets 58% on Vincent.

Of course, we could argue Vincent would be getting this indirectly and Sephy SFF'd him.

Makes Samus/Tifa look more legit, too!
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

So a question for experts.

Link/Sonic=Link wins with 0% change of upset
Mario/Charizard=Mario wins with 5% change of upset
Samus/Cloud=Cloud wins with 25% change of upset
Snake/Sephiroth=Sephiroth wins with 50% change of upset

So that is?
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Charizard has 0% chance of upsetting Mario.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

I'm gonna make a topic for everyone to make their top 20 or whatever and measure it by points.

That said -- I think Tifa is legitimately top 10 material at this point.

Snake has no chance of beating Seph in my opinion.

In 2006 what was Seph projected to get on Samus?
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The ultimate Snow fanboy - Curt
Yeah...it probably is. But I've got to do something, right?

Seph tripled Vincent in 2007 and merely doubled Tifa in 2008

Link and Mario were in that 2007 match, so there was no chance in hell Vincent would look respectable.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

In 2006 what was Seph projected to get on Samus?

Sephiroth doesn't have a 2006 value.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

I don't care what explanation you can come up with for this. If Tifa is rSFFing Sephiroth, there's no reason she can't SFF/rSFF Vincent into the ground. Remember, unlike Vincent, Tifa actually matters in the FFVII plot.

And remember, in every single year, Tifa has looked as good, if not better than Vincent.

2k5? 43% on Sonic vs. needing a movie leak to get 45% on Crono. Note that the entire Devil Division looked pretty bad the next year except Vincent and a guy who just had KH2.

2k6? 48% on Sonic vs. a completely unreliable read due to Samus shenanigans. If you think ZSS/FFXII only led to a 6% overperformance (and FFXII didn't help Vincent at all), that still puts Tifa significantly above Vincent.

lol four-ways: Vincent = Crono and we have no idea where Tifa lands due to crappy bracket placement.

2k10: Guybrush vs. non-ToS Tales character. ...yeah I'm not going to ever argue Tifa vs. Vincent on this kind of evidence. Tifa looked really good against Gordon and seemed to legitimize her 2k6 performance on Peach, so 2k6 looks more legit.
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Of course, we could argue Vincent would be getting this indirectly and Sephy SFF'd him.

That's what I would argue, more or less. We even have precedent!

Poor Guybrush. If Vincent would have gotten 45% he...would have been the second weakest character in the division! Progress!
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Mustache...and Green...

Note that the entire Devil Division looked pretty bad the next year except Vincent and a guy who just had KH2.

Dante looked fine. Yes, the Yoshi loss was bad at the time, but overall, he looks fine that year. Knuckles, Geno, and Magus didn't even make the bracket that year. Terra and Kerrigan already looked awful.

But we need to have Vincent/Tifa next year, with the winner facing Sonic or Crono. Let Squall face the other guy.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

Link and Mario were in that 2007 match, so there was no chance in hell Vincent would look respectable.

Nonsense. If Vincent wants to play along with the Noble Nine he should look respectable in any match - unless he's getting SFF'd hard. As a *complete* afterthought in 2008's final Crono managed 26.5% on Link - a far cry from Vincent's 21% in that match.
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Mustache...and Green...