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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:28:55 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #150
Tifa is a manipulative, lying whore.


Right. Whatever you say.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/16/2010 10:30:06 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #150
Tifa is a manipulative, lying whore.


she's not the one who offers herself to cloud if he bodyguards her
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/16/2010 10:30:10 AM | message detail
The reticence of this topic is amazing.

"Hmm Tifa getting 45% on Seph nah there's still no way Snake possibly has any kind of a shot at that match"

Snake could be duking it out with Cloud in the semis and people in this topic would still be marveling at how his shot at Seph is so nonexistent.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 10:37:41 AM | message detail
Okay, and how is she not such? Cloud gives this massive diatribe in Disc 1 (Kalm flashback). Tifa could quite easily go "uh, what are you talking about? It was nothing like that" and never does. She pretends her and Cloud are childhood friends when in reality she never spoke with him even once and spurned him for the cool kids. And worst of all, she turns into Generic JRPG Heroine in Disc 2. "NOTHING BAD CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU'RE WITH ME, CLOUD/CECIL/SQUALL/LLOYD/ZACK/CRONO/LOCKE/SORA/ALEX/HIRO/ZIDANE/TIDUS/WHOEVER!". There are two types of girl I cannot stand: manipulative, lying whore and needy clinger types. Tifa is the worst of both worlds all in one character. She is not deep, helpful or even the least bit useful, and people only defend her because of her character design.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 10:39:20 AM | message detail

From: CronoBrokeNobl9 | #152
she's not the one who offers herself to cloud if he bodyguards her


I don't like Aeris, either. "You remind me of my old boyfriend, wanna screw?" is not something you ever say. No man worth his stones cares about your ex. Don't talk about any of them. Ever.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 10:40:55 AM | message detail
Tifa is living proof that you can be a downright terrible character and people will still love you if you have D-cups.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:43:06 AM | message detail
Mostly, I just think it's humorous that it's pretty predictable when you're going to jump in and bash a particular character/game/whatever, but yeah.

Tifa could quite easily go "uh, what are you talking about? It was nothing like that" and never does.

Not exactly sure what good this would do. She has no idea how he even knows all of this stuff in the first place because he shouldn't, so she's just as confused as Cloud is. And I'm not sure Cloud would even believe her anyway.

Not sure where you keep getting this "manipulative" stuff from though. She's not that. She doesn't hide the truth about Nibelheim from him to control him or anything. She just isn't sure what it means that he knows all that stuff.

She pretends her and Cloud are childhood friends when in reality she never spoke with him even once

That night Cloud called her out to the well, but yeah. They never say they were close friends or that they hung out all the time though, just that they were friends. I wouldn't make a promise to rescue someone or I wouldn't ask someone to make a promise to rescue me if I didn't consider them a "friend" at the very least though.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 10:43:15 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #156
Tifa is living proof that you can be a downright terrible character and people will still love you if you have D-cups.


Welcome to how the world works, sadly. Girls can be stupid sometimes, but men are stupid all the time.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/16/2010 10:43:21 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #156
Tifa is living proof that you can be a downright terrible character and people will still love you if you have D-cups.


Pfft, saying she has D-cups is conservative. They're probably bigger then that!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:45:07 AM | message detail
But mostly, I think people give Tifa too hard of a time because of a screwup she made that she could have never predicted how huge the consequences of it would be. It's not like she did it on purpose or that she had bad intentions.

But whatever, to each his own. I'm not going to argue about this.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 10:45:14 AM | message detail
Lying by omission is still lying, and you have a really loose definition of what "friend" means. If I'm in love with a small-town girl since childhood, but she always spurns me in favor of other kids in the neighborhood, that's not being friends with someone. It's just living on the same street as someone else.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:46:59 AM | message detail
I never said she didn't lie.

And it's not like they couldn't consider each other "friends" after they made that promise at the well. That's all I'm saying. Just because they didn't really interact ever up to that point doesn't mean they can't just start being friends.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 10:48:21 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #160
But mostly, I think people give Tifa too hard of a time because of a screwup she made that she could have never predicted how huge the consequences of it would be. It's not like she did it on purpose or that she had bad intentions.


I'm just not a fan of lying, I guess. I don't think that's such a bad quality to have.

More to the topic, I have no idea what to make of this match. It could be rSFF, Tifa being legit, hero > villain SFF, Sephiroth getting anti-voted or whatever else. All I know is Sephiroth is VERY VERY LUCKY he gets Snake during the day.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/16/2010 10:49:21 AM | message detail
On a different note, is it possible that Tifa's match against Samus in 2006 had little or nothing to do with the picture, and instead everything to do with the same kind of upset fever that she seems to have caught against Seph? Looking at the disparity between Zelda's performances then and now, it makes sense.

And yeah, speaking of that match, I'm not gathering that much more confidence from Tifa's little display here. Snake putting on a nice show against Squall was much more encouraging. Even still, with this kind of clamoring for an upset... Cloud and Seph may both be a cut above Samus and Snake. They still need to be very worried.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:50:38 AM | message detail
I don't like lying either, but you aren't going to find many video game characters (or characters in any medium) who never lie, whether on purpose or unintentionally. It's not like Tifa lied about everything.

Yes, it was a pretty important thing to refrain from telling the truth about, but quite frankly, if I were in her shoes, I don't think it'd be easy for me to say to a friend, "Hey, that didn't really happen the way you said it did, you liar" when that person shouldn't even know all of that stuff in the first place.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/16/2010 10:51:39 AM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 10:52:01 AM | message detail
Tifa treated Cloud like dirt when they were kids. Calling them friends is a huge stretch.

And she hid the entire thing even after she saw that Cloud was becoming increasingly mentally unstable.

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 10:52:10 AM | message detail
I just realized: Cloud/Sephiroth will the the semifinal if they both win their matches. Prepare for lots of whining about how FFVII always wins.....followed by people voting for Link the next day.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:52:16 AM | message detail
Knock it off, Lumpy.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 10:52:37 AM | message detail
Albion, cut that crap out.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 10:53:01 AM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #164
On a different note, is it possible that Tifa's match against Samus in 2006 had little or nothing to do with the picture, and instead everything to do with the same kind of upset fever that she seems to have caught against Seph? Looking at the disparity between Zelda's performances then and now, it makes sense.

And yeah, speaking of that match, I'm not gathering that much more confidence from Tifa's little display here. Snake putting on a nice show against Squall was much more encouraging. Even still, with this kind of clamoring for an upset... Cloud and Seph may both be a cut above Samus and Snake. They still need to be very worried.


Of course Snake was going to do better with Nintendo finally removed from the equation. His problem is being an MGS character going up against FF7's day vote, and with FF7 having the habit of SFFing MGS. Seph is lucky this is a day match, because he'd probably lose at night or 24 hours.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/16/2010 10:53:09 AM | message detail
Hey I was looking for a reason to put Albion's new alt on ignore

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:53:32 AM | message detail
Tifa treated Cloud like dirt when they were kids. Calling them friends is a huge stretch.

She can't treat him like dirt if they never interact. It's not like Tifa knew how Cloud felt or that he wanted to be friends. He never made a move either until that night.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 10:55:03 AM | message detail
Does Sephiroth even win the day vote against Snake? Remember that one match against Cloud where he basically went even for hours?

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 10:55:03 AM | message detail
Glad I missed whatever that was!
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/16/2010 10:55:08 AM | message detail
Haha, Albion's at it again.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/16/2010 10:55:18 AM | message detail
Geez, not even incredibly vague comments with large spoiler marks is okay?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:55:37 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #174
Does Sephiroth even win the day vote against Snake? Remember that one match against Cloud where he basically went even for hours?


Yeah, and then Cloud cut a ton of votes the very next day with the ASV. Go figure.

Depends on how much rallying Snake gets.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 10:55:42 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #174
Does Sephiroth even win the day vote against Snake? Remember that one match against Cloud where he basically went even for hours?


That was more a bandwagon effect, but yeah. Same thing might happen, who knows.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/16/2010 10:55:57 AM | message detail
Oh hey, GameFAQs. I wonder how the afternoon match is going, Hmm hmm hm, I'll toss poor ol' Tifa a vote~

*votes*

WHAT THE HOLY MOTHER OF GOD

WHAT

WHAT

I... YOU...

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:55:57 AM | message detail

From: CronoBrokeNobl9 | #177
Geez, not even incredibly vague comments with large spoiler marks is okay?


Nobody wants to read whatever you put in there. We don't care what's in it.
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creativename | Posted 3/16/2010 10:56:54 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #710
Tifa is a manipulative, lying whore.


Your opinion sucks ass :)

Tifa's great. Very fun and likable character, and it has nothing to do with her assets.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 10:56:54 AM | message detail
Snake lost the ASV to Crono the next day. That's what happens when you overperform like mad the first 6 hours of the poll.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 10:57:13 AM | message detail
Cloud cut a ton of votes in the finals because Snake was on pure bandwagon power and had staggered trends. The previous match was much more normal (and Snake wasn't getting bandwagoned then - KIRBY was).

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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/16/2010 10:57:21 AM | message detail
Eh, we haven't gotten to see Snake's ASV this year. His morning vote has been good at any rate, which is usually a decent correlation. People called for his head against Cloud when the ASV came in the semis, and FF7's #1 did precisely nothing with it.

There were other reasons for that - again, I'm not suddenly inclined to call the match a lock for Snake or even really brimming with confidence. What I don't get is how there can be so many on the other side of the equation that don't have any doubts at all.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 10:58:31 AM | message detail

From: creativename | #182
Your opinion sucks ass :)

Tifa's great. Very fun and likable character, and it has nothing to do with her assets.


Except I explained in full why I dislike her later. My opinion isn't just "men are idiots and will defend anything with boobs", although this is still very true.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:58:39 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #184
Cloud cut a ton of votes in the finals because Snake was on pure bandwagon power and had staggered trends. The previous match was much more normal (and Snake wasn't getting bandwagoned then - KIRBY was).


I'd imagine that once people saw Snake was in the lead, he managed to get him rallying power going mid-match to keep him in the lead. Like, I doubt Missingno gets any sort of rallying going against Crono if it's 60/40 at the freeze.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/16/2010 10:58:47 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #181
Nobody wants to read whatever you put in there. We don't care what's in it.


No worse then the tons of posts with unmarked FFVII spoilers in the same topic.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 10:59:27 AM | message detail
Fortunately almost everyone on this board has played FFVII already.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 10:59:51 AM | message detail
You think the same won't happen against Sephiroth? Him winning again here is only going to make him an even bigger target.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 10:59:57 AM | message detail
A little bit of difference between a game most people in this topic have played and beaten and a game very few people have beaten or even played yet.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/16/2010 11:00:08 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #189
Fortunately almost everyone on this board has played FFVII already.


while this is true, they're still technically breaking the ToS by revealing plot details without marking it. So if you're gonna yell at me, then look at what you're doing yourself.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/16/2010 11:00:15 AM | message detail
So what you're saying is that we need to get Snake ahead long enough to make the world stand up and take notice, huh?

Looks like ol' Kay Aitch has a new project for tomorrow...
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 11:00:20 AM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #185
What I don't get is how there can be so many on the other side of the equation that don't have any doubts at all.


I've said for months Seph is lucky to get that match during the day, and I didn't get worried when Snake started doing weird against Nintendo characters. His boost is from Brawl and Nintendo; of course he underperforms against Nintendo characters. This has been an obvious fact for four years now.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/16/2010 11:00:55 AM | message detail
Tifa was down by a staggering 15 votes at the 10-minute mark. Sephiroth is going to be in a gigantic hole versus Snake.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 11:00:56 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #190
You think the same won't happen against Sephiroth? Him winning again here is only going to make him an even bigger target.


I'm not denying it won't happen. I'm just saying there's no way of knowing how that goes yet. It just depends on how close the match is once we get to the ASV. If Sephiroth is already well ahead of Snake and on his way to victory by the time we hit the ASV, Snake probably won't win it.
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creativename | Posted 3/16/2010 11:01:02 AM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #905
There were other reasons for that - again, I'm not suddenly inclined to call the match a lock for Snake or even really brimming with confidence. What I don't get is how there can be so many on the other side of the equation that don't have any doubts at all.


Who are these people with no doubts? I see lots of Sephiroth doubting here. He's still the favorite, but I don't think it would totally shock people if Snake won or anything.

From: CronoBrokeNobl9 | #908
No worse then the tons of posts with unmarked FFVII spoilers in the same topic.


Only you could compare 'spoiling' a 13 year old game to a game that isn't even 13 days old.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2010 11:01:23 AM | message detail
I'm sure in 13 years, people will discuss FF13 like commonplace and know exactly what to avoid.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/16/2010 11:01:43 AM | message detail
I didn't get worried when Snake started doing weird against Nintendo characters. His boost is from Brawl and Nintendo; of course he underperforms against Nintendo characters. This has been an obvious fact for four years now.

Man, cut this crap out. It's nonsense.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/16/2010 11:01:45 AM | message detail
I don't think the issue is about the ToS, Albion. People think the spoiler marking system here isn't very good, and even marked spoilers are easy to stumble upon accidentally.
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