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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 880

HaRRicH | Posted 3/15/2010 9:53:46 PM | message detail
True, but weren't you an advocate his hyped form was as strong as his post-releases form?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 9:53:51 PM | message detail
Oh, and I guess the one good thing about Charizard > Bowser is that it means Squall and Bowser are still tied for most wins all-time by a non-Noble Niner!
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 9:54:37 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #351
True, but weren't you an advocate his hyped form was as strong as his post-releases form?


I dunno if I ever said that explicitly, but the possibility exists, I think. Hard to say.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/15/2010 9:55:31 PM | message detail
Yes, good update
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/15/2010 9:56:59 PM | message detail
So I'm confused, is this result making Snake look like a champ or like a chump?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 9:57:46 PM | message detail
If he can hold 60% on Squall, he looks like he'd have a close match with Sephiroth, based on Sephy/Vinny, but Sephy would still be the clear favorite.
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Draco1214 | Posted 3/15/2010 9:58:36 PM | message detail
Snake will probably end up getting what he got against Squall in 2006 (maybe a bit worse), which means he's still quite strong, but not quite enough to reach Sephiroth's level.

...the main thing at this point is whether or not anti-votes can get the better of Sephiroth.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/15/2010 9:58:51 PM | message detail
I wonder if he can hold that considering he's gotta deal with the Total Domination Zone?

If he holds 60% through tonight I'll be really worried.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/15/2010 9:58:51 PM | message detail
59%-60% on Squall is a good %, higher than his '06 performance. He does get Sephiroth in the day, and we've already seen what Cloud can do with that.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 9:59:31 PM | message detail
I doubt he'll maintain 60%. Snake's night vote is good, but Squall's is a better because he's even more Europe-heavy than Snake is.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/15/2010 10:00:09 PM | message detail
So far I am immensely pleased with this performance. Between Snake's worse board vote (which hopefully implies a relatively better night and/or Power Hour), the comparatively lower percentages put up in this contest, and my own pre-contest expectations I am giving myself license to be stoked about next round.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/15/2010 10:00:54 PM | message detail
Like I said, KH and I need to do a dual Crew Guest Analysis.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 10:01:09 PM | message detail
Hmmm...Good vote totals for this match so far, at least.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/15/2010 10:02:09 PM | message detail
When I wake up, you better not let Squall got Blasting Zone all over your 59% lead. He can do it from space, damnit.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/15/2010 10:03:53 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
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Omitted scores got it wrong.

What you would expect from Cloud. Everyone in the Top 723 got this right. You have to go down to the 145 brackets before prediction percentage drops below 90.

No one fell off the Top 50.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/15/2010 10:04:51 PM | message detail
It really depends on who benefits more from a day match, Snake or Seph. If both benefit the same amount, Seph still has the edge.

And we've already seen the difference between night and day for Cloud, and even Seph/Tifa may give us a hint of how Seph will do in the day despite it being a SFF cluster**** (****ing Jenova division).

Snake would have to be the most anti-voted character in the contest and a day vote god in order to beat Seph. I wouldn't even pick Snake in a night match.

I sincerely believe Samus > Cloud is more likely at this point than Snake > Sephiroth, and even that is incredibly unlikely.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 10:06:02 PM | message detail
42% update for Squall. Solid Snake Power Hour is OVER
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/15/2010 10:08:26 PM | message detail
Solid Snake night vote will come through this time I guarantee it
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 10:08:49 PM | message detail
Squall's still at 45% in Europe, so...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/15/2010 10:10:53 PM | message detail
yes guarantee successful

every update is important in a match between two characters this awesome
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/15/2010 10:47:16 PM | message detail
Pretty nice job by Snake, outdoing most expectations by a couple of percent. Hope the night doesn't hurt him.

*looks at Eurasian results*

Poop on a stick.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/15/2010 10:50:47 PM | message detail
Also, Tifa looks incredible in all three pics. Expecting a good showing and wouldn't be at all surprised if she matches or exceeds Vinnie.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 10:51:24 PM | message detail
I'd be thrilled if she outdid Vinny, but her day vote is terrible.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/15/2010 10:52:24 PM | message detail
Yeah, such a shame. She's got my vote, whatever it's worth. Disc 1 Tifa is pretty awesome and I've chosen to just ignore whatever development she got after that!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 10:53:13 PM | message detail
Minority opinion, but Tifa's fine in disc 2 and 3, too.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/15/2010 10:56:49 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #376
Minority opinion, but Tifa's fine in disc 2 and 3, too.


Ew. She turns into a lying whore, responsible for every bad thing that happens to Cloud. Screw that manipulative *****.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 10:58:05 PM | message detail
Uh huh. Sure.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/15/2010 11:06:57 PM | message detail
IIRC, Squall won ONE update last time they went 1v1.

Can he win an update tonight?


Probably. Squall is winning Asia. Snake is under 52% in Europe.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2010 11:07:57 PM | message detail
Disc 2/3 Tifa is horrendous.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/15/2010 11:12:46 PM | message detail
How much of a Disc 3 is there, really? >_>
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FFDragon | Posted 3/15/2010 11:14:03 PM | message detail
Disc 3 is Northern Crater... and that's it really.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 11:15:37 PM | message detail
Disc 3 storywise is the Crater, and some minor sidequests, but that's it. Actually, I think the only sidequest storyline that can't be done before disc 3 is getting Red XIII's ultimate weapon, if I'm not mistaken.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.
lancealots_son | Posted 3/15/2010 11:18:19 PM | message detail
You also can't get the second part of Vincent's story/Ultimate before disc 3 Leonheart
HaRRicH | Posted 3/15/2010 11:19:13 PM | message detail
If she matches or outdoes Vincent despite a day-match, I'm definitely taking Tifa to beat him head-to-head. I've flip-flopped on Tifa beating him in the past anyway, and now is the best chance to get a comparison. It's not a very accurate comparison considering Tifa stands out a bit more against Sephiroth and Seph/Vincent was at night while Seph/Tifa is at day -- not to mention SFF-matches can only be taken so seriously -- but we've already seen her outperform him several times in other not-fully-reliable ways. Tifa did much better against ZSS than Vincent did against Samus-with-Ganondorf or Samus-with-Pikachu, plus Tifa did considerably better against Seph in her two four-way matches from 2008 than Vincent did against him in 2007 (though LPF definitely played a part there thanks to Link and Mario). Tifa also almost matched Vincent's percentage against Gordon Freeman, the most reliable comparison they have; she got 61.96% on him this year compared to Vincent getting 62.05% during R2 in 2008 (or 63.03% if you want to use R3, though Samus/Ganon take a considerably bigger sum of the percentage than Scorpion/Falco). You have to cross formats to do that, however, so it's not perfect either.

Then again though, there's the Sonic-comparison where Vincent did several percent better, but that was the contest after he got DoC:FF7 and FF7:AC. Tifa didn't get her own side-game, but she was in KH2 and had a bigger role in FF7:AC than Vincent, so...it'd be a good battle. It's hard to pick against Vincent, but before their contest-debuts I would have taken her over him since *insert incorrect theories about being an optional character* and we've seen KH2 help Auron since 2006 so it'd probably help Tifa too. I'd chance it if she can get about what Vincent got, especially if Tifa beats his percentage.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/15/2010 11:21:03 PM | message detail

From: lancealots_son | #384
You also can't get the second part of Vincent's story/Ultimate before disc 3 Leonheart


That's true. But all that happens is basically Vincent says, "Lucrecia..." and you get the goods.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/15/2010 11:23:23 PM | message detail
And in happy news, Snake has moved ahead of where he was at this time in 2006, and unlike that year has done a LOT less freefalling. Squall probably makes some movement overnight, but Snake might be able to make his own move in the morning if this year has been any indication.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 3/15/2010 11:24:55 PM | message detail
Man we need Vincent vs. Tifa next year. Not in the first round though.

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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/16/2010 12:22:50 AM | message detail
Looks like my British compatriots are divided on Solid Snake/Squall. Good taste zone!

Squall about to rise above 40%.

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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/16/2010 12:50:15 AM | message detail
Isn't Snake supposed to be good with Europe and Asia, the way how Squall is manhandling him in those areas is indeed frightening. Quite confident that Snake should rise a little in the morning thks to Smash.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/16/2010 12:58:42 AM | message detail
May I please have a look at the x-stats for the Mushroom/Midgar divisions and their x-stat seedings?

Well, there's still hope for Snake > Sephy based on this match, but only if you think Sephy SFFd Vincent to a good degree, which I don't believe. Good thing I switched that back in my bracket, heh.
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/16/2010 1:08:31 AM | message detail
There doesn't really need to be *that* much SFF in Seph/Vincent for Snake to contend with Sephy... and I would be surprised if he resisted it entirely there just based on past evidence. Seph has gotten *some* SFF even in his disappointing affairs - Auron 2k4 comes to mind here.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/16/2010 1:18:56 AM | message detail
In order for the upset to still happen, you'd need Vincent and Squall to be equal, and then Sephiroth to SFF him to a good degree. Also, rank all of these characters in strength in descending order:

Ridley
Gordon Freeman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Magus
Frog
Kefka
Tails
Duke Nukem
Captain Falcon
Ike
Falco
Chris Redfield
Meta-Knight
Marth
Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 3/16/2010 1:33:36 AM | message detail
Ba ha ha a cut
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/16/2010 1:34:53 AM | message detail
You're up late tonight, Ben.
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Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 3/16/2010 1:39:14 AM | message detail
Psh, my schedule is upside down, I woke up at 8 PM
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/16/2010 3:20:57 AM | message detail
I said that I would like to look at the x-stats and statistical seedings for the Mushroom and Midgar divisions. Please?
Draco1214 | Posted 3/16/2010 3:55:02 AM | message detail
Completely random, but I was talking to Leon about this the other day, and I don't think anyone else has posted about this. Seeing as we're in a Snake match, maybe now would be a good time to bring it up.

I think MGS shares an overlap with "casual-bait" characters. It might explain a few things.

1) Altair getting 59% on Liquid.
2) Ocelot losing to Jill in '08 despite MGS4 and beating her the year before (Kratos being in the poll). Link/MMX confounds things, but I'd wager Ocelot looked pretty decent after Red went out and got 40% on MMX despite all the Mega Man domination we've seen this year.
3) Liquid going from being equal to Alucard, to getting absolutely dominated once Master Chief arrives.
4) Hayabusa getting destroyed every time he runs into Snake.

Might be completely ridiculous, but just throwing it out there. I wonder what would happen to Dante if he ever ran into Snake 1 vs. 1.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/16/2010 4:48:19 AM | message detail
I've been thinking about that one, but I thought of it as mature fanbase factor and I didn't really think it was viable.

So Liquid > Tenpenny was SFF, eh? Plus then you have Snake SFFing Kratos enough for L-Block to sneak through, eeps. And then there's MGS2 and Vice City possibly hurting each other...nah, surely not? And...MGS being leeched by Deus Ex? MGS2 being leeched by Morrowind? Halo 2 being SFFd by MGS3? MGS4 SFFing everything in its half division?

And may I please see the x-stats and stat seeding for the Mushroom and Midgar Divisions, please?