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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 879

KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/14/2010 5:33:02 PM | message detail
It's the first time a Pokemon's gotten to the Elite 8, but that's a little skewed because Pikachu made the Quarterfinals in both 4-way contests.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2010 5:34:32 PM | message detail

From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #050
A newcomer going to Elite 8...How often is that?2nd time?Only Vincent has done it right?L-Block too if we count 4-ways.


Mario, Cloud, Crono, Snake, Link, Scorpion, Samus, Sephiroth all did it, too...
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paulg235 | Posted 3/14/2010 5:36:22 PM | message detail
That was the first contest, though. It kinda isn't the same since they were there straight from the beginning and EVERYONE was a newcomer. Newcomers going to the Elite-8 nowadays is much more impressive since we usually end up doubting them.
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zenk123 | Posted 3/14/2010 5:37:16 PM | message detail
Next contest, Lightning will make the elite 8. Book it.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2010 5:37:36 PM | message detail
Well, Vincent and Charizard managed to get into the Elite Eight in divisions without Noble Niners in them, so in a sense, they got lucky, too.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/14/2010 5:37:47 PM | message detail
Also, Zack made the Quarterfinals as a newcomer last contest.

And Weighted Companion Cube.

And Mega Man X.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2010 5:38:58 PM | message detail
But that's not Elite Eight in 4-ways! There are 16 characters left in the Quarterfinals!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/14/2010 5:39:37 PM | message detail
Yeah, but they made it to the same round!

Same thing in my book tbqh.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/14/2010 5:41:57 PM | message detail

From: zenk123 | #054
Next contest, Lightning will make the elite 8. Book it.


She'll need a weak division for that to happen and she needs to be at least a high-midcarder to stand any chance. After seeing Balthier, she could very well be a low-midcarder, for all we know (I think she'll be an upper-midcarder though). Not to mention, she has to avoid being in the same divsion as Link, Mario, Samus, and especially Cloud and Sephiroth. If she isn't a near-elite (doubt she will be), you can add 10 other characters to that mix (Sonic, MM, MMX, Squall, Auron, Vincent, Tifa, Charizard, Crono, the joke character of 2011).

Basically, her division next year needs to be like the Heart Division. It helps if she's a 1-seed too to avoid the (near-)elites early on.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/14/2010 5:42:36 PM | message detail
Lightning getting the 1-seed next year book it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2010 5:42:40 PM | message detail
Eh, it's not the same to me. Pikachu, L-Block, Zack, MMX, and Cube got to the quarterfinals while not even finishing 1st in every match, so that waters it down a little in my eyes.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2010 5:43:33 PM | message detail
After seeing Balthier, she could very well be a low-midcarder, for all we know

Considering she looks as strong as Rikku and Vivi before the game ever came out, I doubt that's going to happen.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/14/2010 5:52:42 PM | message detail
Lightning being about this years strength is he absolute floor... her peak is about Squall/Vincent level. I think she'll be closer to the latter myself.
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voltch | Posted 3/14/2010 5:55:04 PM | message detail
Lightning has got one of the best design ever, I approve of her style.
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paraboxx | Posted 3/14/2010 5:57:30 PM | message detail
It's too early to tell how Lightning'll do next year, I think. FF13's pretty popular right now, but there's also a huge backlash brewing against it. If the backlash holds out, Lightning could easily slip to sub-Balthier levels. If it dies down, she could be the next Squall.
EternalxCourage | Posted 3/14/2010 5:58:19 PM | message detail
Lightning will at least be high mid-carder if not as strong as -- or stronger -- than Auron in the next contest.
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voltch | Posted 3/14/2010 5:58:37 PM | message detail
Lightning>Bayonetta.
In more ways than one.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/14/2010 5:58:47 PM | message detail
Shocked Charizard is winning. Pretty damn awesome, though.

Here's hoping Charizard has a bandwagon going and we get Charizard > Mario next round!

And failing that, Mario > Link instead!
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/14/2010 5:59:06 PM | message detail
Lol how does FFXIII have huge backlash brewing? If you listen to most people aside from the cranky ones on this board FFXIII is hugely a success.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/14/2010 5:59:38 PM | message detail
Or Charizard>Link !

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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/14/2010 5:59:48 PM | message detail
Neither of those two results will happen because Sonic is going to beat Link, and then Mario, on his way to winning the finals against Cloud.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/14/2010 6:00:06 PM | message detail
I haven't seen any FF13 backlash whatsoever, which is surprising.

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voltch | Posted 3/14/2010 6:00:34 PM | message detail
XIII is hated by those who think Linearity=bad game cos all RPGs need to be huge with big maps, those are the FFs everyone likes, right XII?
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tee316 | Posted 3/14/2010 6:00:39 PM | message detail
Good to see Charizard win.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2010 6:00:45 PM | message detail

From: paraboxx | #065
It's too early to tell how Lightning'll do next year, I think. FF13's pretty popular right now, but there's also a huge backlash brewing against it. If the backlash holds out, Lightning could easily slip to sub-Balthier levels. If it dies down, she could be the next Squall.


FFXIII has backlash?

Maybe from the reviews, but other than that, the vast majority of the board who's playing it seems to really like it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2010 6:01:23 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #072
I haven't seen any FF13 backlash whatsoever, which is surprising.


Strangely enough, I've only really seen backlash from the people who played the Japanese version. HM doesn't really bash the game, per se, but he's not as high on it as we are.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/14/2010 6:01:41 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #067
Lightning>Bayonetta.
In more ways than one.


Second part is a disgusting lie.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/14/2010 6:01:43 PM | message detail
Lightning has an awesome design, is from a hugely popular game, and is generally a good character(although far inferior to Sazh). I'm rooting for her!
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paulg235 | Posted 3/14/2010 6:01:43 PM | message detail
ANYTHANG BUTT LINK WINNING GUYZ

From: LeonhartFour | #062
After seeing Balthier, she could very well be a low-midcarder, for all we know

Considering she looks as strong as Rikku and Vivi before the game ever came out, I doubt that's going to happen.


Hype, man. The keyword's hype. You've seen what happenned to Master Chief a year after all that Halo 3 hype, man.

Don't think she'll drop to low-midcard levels myself, but I wouldn't rule out that possibility.
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zenk123 | Posted 3/14/2010 6:02:08 PM | message detail
I think backlash is coming from people who haven't played the game yet.

And even if you haven't play the game, how could one dislike Lightning?

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paraboxx | Posted 3/14/2010 6:02:27 PM | message detail
Lol how does FFXIII have huge backlash brewing? If you listen to most people aside from the cranky ones on this board FFXIII is hugely a success.

I've seen plenty of FFXIII rants from all over the web, not just this board. Check the low end of Metacritic, for starters.
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2010 6:03:01 PM | message detail
Yeah, but even with the hype, I really, really, really doubt Lightning could drop down to Balthier levels. FFXIII is the kind of game that's up this site's alley. Plus, it's got a potential 360 outreach now.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2010 6:04:04 PM | message detail
Lightning should be able to reach the Square near-elite level. She's the protagonist of FFXIII, a very big game, and she has a great, appealing, character design.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2010 6:04:58 PM | message detail
And I think the hype was still a ways off when she faced Sonic. Had her match been, say, last week right before the game came out, she'd have done better.
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voltch | Posted 3/14/2010 6:05:48 PM | message detail
The backlash seems confined to outside of gamefaqs borders though, inside the mainland territory, even those who say a few negative things clearly like the game enough to power through it as fast as possible.
Lightning is a midcarder at the very least.
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paraboxx | Posted 3/14/2010 6:07:15 PM | message detail
How about on the day of release?

BTW, I'm rooting for her too, in case anyone thought I wasn't. Never touched the game, either. (I am watching an LP, though~!)
EternalxCourage | Posted 3/14/2010 6:08:19 PM | message detail
Yeah on all accounts FFXIII is pretty much a worldwide success. Plus it's on X-Box 360. Lightning might become even more popular than Squall and co. Although that remains to be seen.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2010 6:08:56 PM | message detail
No, she won't be. She doesn't have nostalgia on her side.

I'm going to say around Rikku's level.
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voltch | Posted 3/14/2010 6:10:19 PM | message detail
The FFX cast started off pretty decently with barely what, a year's worth of nostalgia, nine years down the road sure they might have stronger nostalgia power, but they started well.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/14/2010 6:11:24 PM | message detail
She's already at Rikku's level. There's no reason to believe now that she actually has a game that she won't increase.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/14/2010 6:12:12 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | Posted: 3/14/2010 9:08:19 PM | #087
Yeah on all accounts FFXIII is pretty much a worldwide success. Plus it's on X-Box 360. Lightning might become even more popular than Squall and co. Although that remains to be seen.


From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 3/14/2010 9:08:56 PM | #088
No, she won't be. She doesn't have nostalgia on her side.

I'm going to say around Rikku's level.


Both approaches are wrong. The reason Squall and Auron got as high as they did was Kingdom Hearts, which opened them up to a new audience (a kiddy audience, if you will). Lightning doesn't have that, and Xbox fans aren't that numerous here. High midcarder sounds OK but not near-elite.
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zenk123 | Posted 3/14/2010 6:12:26 PM | message detail
All Lightning needs is a 1-seed, then she's set to kick ass.

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voltch | Posted 3/14/2010 6:13:59 PM | message detail
being on 360 doesn't inspire confidence at all, look at how strong other multiplatformers are, sure she might be stronger than Altair, but right now that isn't worth much after the beating Vivi dished out.
Heck now that it turns out that Kratos is pretty darn strong you might think it helps to be exclusive because it could make your fanbase that much more hardcore, they care more about the fact that your only available on their platform.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2010 6:14:11 PM | message detail
She's already at Rikku's level. There's no reason to believe now that she actually has a game that she won't increase.

She'll increase a bit, but her game will be a year old by the time the next contest rolls around. Unless it's a completely ground-breaking game, she won't be as strong as you guys are predicting her. A character is always strongest when they're getting a new game shortly or the game has just came out. She'd be stronger today because of the game being new, but in a year she'd either be forgotten (if the game becomes hated like FF12) or she'll just stick around in the middle of the pack.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2010 6:14:18 PM | message detail
Yeah, Kingdom Hearts is big. Lightning's ultimate potential is higher than Auron though, so there's a chance she could reach his level before getting in a KH game.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/14/2010 6:15:15 PM | message detail
Lightning should be pretty huge

she's very Cloud-like, but female.... and better.

also she has a gunblade

it's like they took a bunch of popular stuff and put them together and made her
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paraboxx | Posted 3/14/2010 6:15:16 PM | message detail
The reason Squall and Auron got as high as they did was Kingdom Hearts, which opened them up to a new audience (a kiddy audience, if you will).

That's a good point for Squall, but Auron didn't have Kingdom Hearts until 2006.

And Lightning could always show up in KH3!
red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2010 6:16:47 PM | message detail
Auron did boost a lot from KH2 though. That's part of the reason he lost so badly to Ganon in 2005; it's not all Ganon declining.
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paraboxx | Posted 3/14/2010 6:18:08 PM | message detail
Holy damn, just saw the "cloaked in fire" pic for the first time. I may hate this result, but I love the pics for it!
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 3/14/2010 6:18:18 PM | message detail

From: paraboxx | Posted: 3/14/2010 9:15:16 PM | #097
The reason Squall and Auron got as high as they did was Kingdom Hearts, which opened them up to a new audience (a kiddy audience, if you will).

That's a good point for Squall, but Auron didn't have Kingdom Hearts until 2006.

And Lightning could always show up in KH3!


Auron WASN'T a Near Elite before 2k6 either, so I don't see the problem there. He got smacked by Ganondorf pretty hard. :P
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