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Also yes the 2k6 was the Twilight Princess hyped Ganondorf, but keep in mind that since 2k6 TP has been released, and SSBB has also been released. Two games that give Ganondorf some staying power if nothing else. It's not unreasonable to believe he is at 2k5 levels.

Hype is much stronger in these contests then actual game releases.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
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From: XxSoulxX | #301
Also yes the 2k6 was the Twilight Princess hyped Ganondorf, but keep in mind that since 2k6 TP has been released, and SSBB has also been released. Two games that give Ganondorf some staying power if nothing else. It's not unreasonable to believe he is at 2k5 levels.

Hype is much stronger in these contests then actual game releases.

Very true for the most part, which is why I think Bowser will have no problem with The Zard.

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Very nice!

Very true for the most part, which is why I think Bowser will have no problem with The Zard.

Hype will still be very strong at that point. Right around release time + a few weeks after release, that character should be at around the same level. After people play it/beat it/move on, that's when that character will fall.
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Soul -- the resident expert on all trends.

So, even if the boost is higher in the hype phaze that doesn't mean that having two new games come out won't keep him from dropping from years where he was even weaker than that year.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
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Soul -- the resident expert on all trends.

It's good that you're finally realizing this.

So, even if the boost is higher in the hype phaze that doesn't mean that having two new games come out won't keep him from dropping from years where he was even weaker than that year.

There wasn't much of a drop from his initial strength though. Ganondorf boosted for the Villains contest (like Bowser) and had a great 2005 contest because of so (like Bowser). Bowser dropped in 2006 because that boost was wearing off, but the only reason Ganondorf didn't drop was because of TP hype. That's gone (and Brawl is long gone), so he went back to his normal strength (maybe a bit weaker due to LoZ looking a bit weaker in total).
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Because the board likes Snake and dislikes Sonic.

>_>
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Character Battle VIII - 157/192 - Today's Winners: Link and Sonic

Snake is stronger because his two games (MGS4 and SSBB) not only satisfied his Sony fanbase, but also increased his fanbase significantly by breaking into the Nintendo fanbase. It would be similar to Mario getting SMG2 released on the 360 as well as the Wii. His fanbase would grow exponentially! Probably enough to take out Sephiroth and give Cloud a run for his money.

But that's what gave Snake his initial strength in 200...7? Whatever year he won the male bracket. He definitely calmed down since then, but don't expect him to go down to his pre-MGS4/SSBB self because he gained a fanbase since then. I put him equal to, or just a bit below Samus.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Because the board likes Snake and dislikes Sonic.

Sonic is one of the most liked characters on this board. He always ranks in the top 10.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
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If you say so.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
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Sonic is one of the most disliked characters in the Stats topic, which is what I am sure he was referring to.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
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Anyways to be truthful I feel that Snake has dropped below Mario/Samus and could even lose to Mega Man now.
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Character Battle VIII - 157/192 - Today's Winners: Link and Sonic

I wouldn't be anti-Sonic if it wasn't for the annoying fanboys constantly on his nuts, pretending like he has a realistic shot at anybody else in the Noble Nine (barring Crono because the jury's still out on him)
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"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1

What gives you the idea that Sonic doesn't have a realistic shot against MM/Snake based on recent performances?
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
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I'm more worried of MM beating Mario then I am of Sonic beating MM/Snake.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

What gives you the idea that Sonic doesn't have a realistic shot against MM/Snake based on recent performances?

What gives you the idea that he DOES?
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Failing to out-do his 2006 projection on Kirby and his reliable 2007 projection on Bacondorf through Luigi!
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"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1

I can't believe people are entertaining the idea of Mega Man > Mario.

God, you people are dense.
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It may be insulting, but it's the truth!
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MM has looked stronger this contest, and it's a night match. That's a good argument there.

But then again, if you believe that MM/Sonic are considered Nintendo characters, that's all that Mario needs in this match.
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Heck if people weren't so crazy about Mario owning everything Nintendo related, minus Link I think Samus > Mario would be a popular pick right now.
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Character Battle VIII - 157/192 - Today's Winners: Link and Sonic

Mega Man X almost avoiding the doubling on Link was very encouraging for the Mega Man upset. Clearly, SFF hasn't been nearly as potent a force this year for whatever reason.
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"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1

MM won't beat Mario. Mario will beat him and go on to upset Link because the Hyrulian Hero will probably be anti voted. The Missingno bandwagoners have to go somewhere for their upset

Missingno bandwagoners are more likely to go to Charizard.
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Character Battle VIII - 157/192 - Today's Winners: Link and Sonic

I bet they won't make much of a difference since a lot of them must have given up.

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So, what does happen when Pinocchio claims "my nose will now grow"?

Yes, but I have Bowser beating Charizard so zard won't be a factor by that point. Mario vs Link should be a good match

This match has barely budged all day

The thing is...If we're going to argue Sonic > Snake, we have to give Kirby a realistic shot at beating Snake.

I'm not quite ready to swallow that pill yet, but if Sonic can beat Snake, Squall is practically guaranteed to win.
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

And I don't think 54-55% on Kirby is all that impressive. That's, what, 2% better than Luigi managed back in 2006?
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

From: charmander6000 | #320
Heck if people weren't so crazy about Mario owning everything Nintendo related, minus Link I think Samus > Mario would be a popular pick right now.

We already saw what happened when samus was thought to be stronger than mario =P
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It's only impressive because people came into this match with the expectation that Sonic was in danger of losing. Same goes for last round. 57% on a Bacondorf that has been proven to be weaker than Luigi isn't impressive either, especially given that we have a direct comparison for both matches through 2006 Luigi.
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"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1

wow, just how low are people placing Snake here, you talk about Sonic>Snake then Bowser, Vincent, Tifa, Squall and more join the fray, sure we're no longer looking at steroid snake but hey don't go shoving him that low so fast.
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Shakes Fist!

We already saw what happened when samus was thought to be stronger than mario =P

Attitude like this is why no one thinks Samus has a chance against Mario.

>_>
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Character Battle VIII - 157/192 - Today's Winners: Link and Sonic

From: charmander6000 | #332
We already saw what happened when samus was thought to be stronger than mario =P

Attitude like this is why no one thinks Samus has a chance against Mario.

>_>

Because it is fact? <_<
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Why does Final Fantasy 7 win every year? Geesh you'd think people would give Zelda a try.
Sir Chris

I don't think anyone is seriously taking Sonic > Snake, but it's clear that Snake is no longer at his Samus/Mario threatening levels

From what we've seen, Noble Nine is likely:

Link

Cloud
Sephiroth

Mario
Samus

Mega Man
Snake


Sonic
Crono
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"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1

Speaking of FACTS

Fact/Fiction: Mario beats Mega Man with more than 55%
Fact/Fiction: The final margin of Bowser/Charizard is less than 2500
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Squall Leonhart is the worst Final Fantasy character ever created.

It's not like Samus is gonna go from that to a Dante/Ryu style fight, dante worked hard to close the gap, Samus is not even a banana to mario.
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Shakes Fist!

VOLTCH'D
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"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1

And Fiction/Fiction

Charizard still screams overrated to me and I think Bowser should go on to a 55%ish win

And Mega Man will probably get between 52-53%.
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"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1

Fact/Fiction: Mario beats Mega Man with more than 55%
Fact/Fiction: The final margin of Bowser/Charizard is less than 2500

Ill say Fact.
Definately Fact.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

The thing is...If we're going to argue Sonic > Snake, we have to give Kirby a realistic shot at beating Snake.

I'm not quite ready to swallow that pill yet, but if Sonic can beat Snake, Squall is practically guaranteed to win.

Uh...Sonic is going to finish this match at about 55%. How does beating him at 55% and barely being able to beat Snake mean that Kirby has a shot at Snake? Same thing about Squall. I would say that Squall should get about 48% on Snake this year -- and he would get similar to that on Sonic.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
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There's nothing "clear" about Snake dropping. If you've seriously and objectively been following the last few contests, you'll now that the Pikachu sprite match is one that should be dropped entirely. Snake's match against Fox is an infinitely more reliable one, and his 67% was pretty damn awesome, especially in an anti-blowout contest and with Snake getting hit with horrendous anti-votes at the start. Remember that Squall only managed 62% on Fox when Fox was being hurt by Yoshi; Fox would easily break 40% on Squall in a 1v1, which means 67% on the guy is some serious stuff.

Snake is probably a smidgen below Mario these days, but Snake/Samus is likely still a toss-up given a fair picture. Both got equal percentages against Sub-Zero and Fox, and Subz/Fox does not seem like a clear match to me at all.
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If Snake has dropped, it's probably only to his 2006 strength or thereabouts. He should still be a long way above his 2005 strength.
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snake should still be a notch above his 06 levels, that pikachu match is him underperforming and pikachu overperforming.
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Shakes Fist!

So someone is arguing that Snake has dropped to the level below that of Megaman/Sonic? A match against 2 relatively unknown(hasn't seen Fox in 1vs1 for a while), and a sprite round that was bound to skew Snake's performance. Squall/Snake would be the best indication as to where Snake's strength lies. I think Squall is worth at the very least 48% on MM and would probably beat up Sonic.

Less than 50% on Squall- Snake is weaker than MM and might be weaker than Sonic
Above 52%- Snake is slightly stronger than MM
Around 56-57%- Around his 2006 strength and a slight step below Samus/Mario
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Snake's Mission "To make it to the finals for the fourth consecutive times"

Alright, the percentages have settled enough that we can discuss this now: Curt, you were hoping for Sonic to be around 60% in this match. I talked about 62.5% as a target to show that he's still at his 2006 strength, though you did think that was asking a little too much. But with Sonic only at 54.5%, can we agree at least that Sonic 2006 > Sonic 2010?
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2010 Extrapolated Standings: Crono gets 46.85% on Sephiroth.
All you need now is KH3 or SSB4, Crono. Then your quest shall be fulfilled!

There's nothing "clear" about Snake dropping. If you've seriously and objectively been following the last few contests, you'll now that the Pikachu sprite match is one that should be dropped entirely. Snake's match against Fox is an infinitely more reliable one, and his 67% was pretty damn awesome, especially in an anti-blowout contest and with Snake getting hit with horrendous anti-votes at the start. Remember that Squall only managed 62% on Fox when Fox was being hurt by Yoshi; Fox would easily break 40% on Squall in a 1v1, which means 67% on the guy is some serious stuff

Love how you conveniently neglect to mention that Sora was also in that match.
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"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1

"But Kirby has had huge releases such as Brawl to boost him through!"
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"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1

Most likely. I mean it's still hard to say because it seems like Kirby has gotten a pretty sizeable boost from SSBB and his DS game, but like I said I was expecting about 58% from Sonic to be at about 2k6. So he's probably a little weaker. But again Kirby is weird so it's hard to say. 55% should be his target for this match now.

Squall wouldn't beat Sonic though.
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #346
Love how you conveniently neglect to mention that Sora was also in that match.

I'm willing to bet Yoshi hurt Fox significantly more than Sora hurt Squall. I think that's the general consensus around here, too.
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I thought Sora and Squall don't overlap much. Aren't their trends opposite of each other?